Somebody explain to me like I'm 3, all these fucking morons saying we'll vote them out next time, what in the hell are they talking about? You don't vote anybody out if they don't count your vote right!
I'm seeing like half the fucking GOP say shit like this, what the hell are they smoking?
We fix THIS election or THERE IS NO election.
This will be the last vote if we lose
Some of it is habit. We are used to thinking that our vote was being counted and it is hard to undo that, or admit that the whole thing is a lie, and probably has been for awhile. It’s kind of like knowing the corporate media is lying propaganda, but then still trying to negotiate with it or debate it. We may consciously understand this, but it’s all too monstrous to admit so we keep reverting back to our old reality. Even with the covid stuff, we keep making arguments about inconsistencies in the science, and that’s great for waking up normies, and keeping ourselves awake too, but at the same time I think we almost expect these talking heads to come around and admit the truth. Or like with the voting. It is tempting to problem solve the situation. “We could do this, and this, and this, and then cheating the vote would be impossible!” We take that to our representatives and naively think they will see the light and fight for these changes along with us. But they won’t. All these mistakes and unsecure systems in the vote are intentional. Our honesty and patriotism and straight-forward speaking must look so naive to them. You pretty much just have to acknowledge that these people are The Enemy, and think of them as such.
Normalcy Bias is the term.
Time to rebuild America from the ground up
Something tells me they're part of the opposition.
Sad answer is, while most Trump supporters are patriots, some of them are just the cowards that will follow the winning side.
So even if Trump is the best choice, and they like his policies, they'll go "oh there's no point to fight, or even bother supporting him it's a waste of energy I guess I'll just roll over for the new winner, let's work together". In reality they want minimum resistance and just want someone to do all the work for them, lazy bastards.
I have been dealing with this in my life lately. Family members who I know have supported Trump from the beginning are saying if we lose this we can just vote them out next time, or saying that the left will burn down the country if the court declares Trump the winner and we can figure this out for the next election, and somehow I am a conspiracy theorist for saying that if they steal this the country is over. Yea maybe King Biden or Lord Harris (it really gets to them when I use these names) will allow us to have the appearance of elections going forward but our voices will be silenced. People don’t realize the position we are in as a country.
If this ends up with Biden inaugurated, I don't believe I will ever vote in another election. If the election system mechanics are not repaired, which they WILL NOT BE since the leftists will be in charge, then my conservative vote doesn't mean squat. There is no point to voting if the system just makes up its own numbers.
Yes you will. Or you will be recorded as having voted, at any rate.
Good point!
Not necessarily. A lot of people are simply scared of the idea that our elections our corrupt. They really want to believe it’s all legitimate because the truth is scary
Wait, my vote is pointless?
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It will sink in eventually
The people saying, "I'll remember who supported Trump in the primaries" might be saying that with the assumption Trump comes out on top and the voting systems get fixed to prevent future fraud.
I think even that is a copout. You can recall your governors at any time.
vote may not matter but i sure as shit will not support any fucking Romney/Ryan/Jeb/Sasse GOP
AND if the GOP does not get off it ass and start supporting Trump fighting this fraud now they are the Romney/Ryan/Jeb/Sasse GOP
It won't matter who you support or don't support. The future politicians will simply be hand-picked by a small bunch of Socialists, ensuring that some "Rs" stay in place in order to maintain the facade of a "two-party system" and fair elections.
I get downvoted a lot for asking why this same thing on a smaller scale was ignored in 2018. I get a lot of moronic responses saying "It was part of the plan." If so, it was a shitty plan.
I heard a passionate 65 year old Marine on Breitbart's Alex Marlowe show this morning. He was making this point, concerned about Georgia. Marlowe got a bit angry with him, then called the caller a "baby", "you're an emotional baby". The Marine said, "I'm a 65 year old Marine! You're just a 25 year old kid". Well, Marlowe's actually about 35 I guess, but then Marlowe declared the Marine had resorted to name-calling!
I turned that asshoe off right then, and I have no intention of listening to that show again. Alex started with the name calling, then acts indignant when the caller responds to it? PLEASE. Alex has been a doomer for months, with some minor occasional upticks. He's already thrown in the towel, just wants to talk about the qualifications of Biden's cabinet picks.
Marlowe can just go talk to himself. I won't listen anymore.
There's been a few talk show hosts showing their true colors. I haven't listened to Marlowe in a long time, but you're right; he's been a doomer for a while. If he doesn't get the simple fact that elections will be null and void, he's done with me. I'm already done with anyone who starts talking about Biden's handler's pretend cabinet.
I caught five minutes of Hannity's radio show yesterday. He had two doomer "election fraud experts" on who just kept crowing about how this was all a waste of time. Then announced Sidney Powell would be on later to talk about...General Flynn's pardon. WTF!? I stopped listening to him a while back and just happened on his show by chance, but if this is what's going on all over talk radio, we've lost just about every ally.
I like Andrew Wilkow's show. To his credit he references the election as "If Biden manages to successfully steal the election." He also said even if Biden successfully steals the election he'll never refer to him as "president." However, even Andrew falls into the trap of discussing Biden's handler's cabinet picks once in a while. I have to turn him off when he does it. I can sum it up in five seconds, "He's naming a bunch of Communists to his pretend cabinet." That's the most time it would deserve, if any.
But I want to vote Jeb! or Jeb! totally natural elections! OOOhh cant wait for Romney 2024 right conservatards??? Right??? Gimme dat Guack an Goblin wife Jeb!
That’s why we must not even entertain the possibility of losing. We must fight with whatever they make us fight with. If they take away our right to peacefully choose our right to self governance they we must violently take it back.
People just don't understand....
Amnesty for millions is coming,
Open borders to flood the market with cheap labor
Millions on "The system"
Wake the F up people
Can someone make a meme... Lifeless body = GOP
Defibrillator = maga movement
Setting Emergency Room
Yeah, wide open southern border. Amnesty. Single-payer government for all.
The world's oppressed teeming masses swarm America, leading to widespread systemic collapse.
Great....
Memes lol
Trump got elected because they fucked up. The fix has been in a long time. We saw it every time Bernie won, and we laughed because it was the dems fucking over dems.
Yeah it was funny when dems were doing it to dems. But it isn't funny now.
It wasn't funny if you have principles. Wasn't worth that smug feeling of superiority in the end, was it?
Hey man, I knew the democrat party was corrupt but I didn't know that they had infiltrated every single level of our infrastructure.
It was funny when you thought it was a bunch of liars and corrupt deep state operatives screwing each other but when they started screwing with the American people, it stopped being funny.
Who gives a shit if criminals screw other criminals? We only care when they screw over honest people.
The leftists have corrupted every level of the electoral system, from the local precinct right up through the state Supreme Courts! I have no idea how we pull it back. What do we do? We frickin' knew they were planning to cheat. Did we just not conceive of the depths they would plumb? They cheated, defrauded, in every way possible! And there is NO independent authority to verify, NONE with the ability to turn over the fraudulent elections.
This is why RBG croaking WEEKS before the election was divine intervention. I hope it is anyways.
It's like if they cut the rails in a public train and then thinking it's funny because a guy you didn't like got hurt in the crash.
All aboard
You must be a burned bernie bro or something. Hey man, I'm sorry you got screwed but serves you right for picking a socialist candidate.
In this fight, there are the good guys and the bad guys. I'm not gonna empathize with the bad guys. You can waste your empathy on them.
Lol, what a weak ass retort. No, I wasn't a Bernie bro.
It's not about empathizing with bad guys it's about having a functioning moral center. How did that work out, smart guy?
You better be a pacifist. Otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.
Thank you! Some of us saw the writing on the wall. Luckily Trump has that extra something and is constantly underestimated
Or like laughing at some idiot driving drunk on his own property, but being deadly serious about when he tries to drive drunk on a public road.
everything happening the way it did was actually how we got Trump so... things happen for a reason
A key difference is that the process for selecting candidates is totally arbitrary. They can select their candidates however they wish, it's corrupting a political machine's internal popularity contest, not our actual election process.
Republicans did it to Ron Paul.
I think many here weren't laughing.
We were pissed off but because it was the Dems and because Bernie went ahead and accepted his cucking for another house, we went ahead and laughed at him.
But no one here was laughing at how he was screwed by the Dem party.
They were laughing at him accepting his screwing.
and with no vaseline either!!!!!
Just a good'old bend on over boy....
One bad hombre.
And before the software it was we vote and boxes of ballots disappear or are “found”. There’s been so much cheating in our elections it’s disgusting
These people are insane.Win now or lose forever.
Also, if Trump - with his billions of dollars, his expertise in negotiations, his celebrity status, his natural charisma, his established brand, his persuasion skills, his business experience, his high energy, his winning attitude, his fighting spirit, his sense of humour, his work ethic, his enormous loyal fan base, and possibly even his time machine - is not able to take on the Deep State’s rigged system and win, then who could?
It will need a deep state of patriots. That's who. I keep saying that if the injustice stands, there are only two ways out:
The problem with both is that we will be invaded by foreign armies. The UN and China will tag team us. The Balkanization of the US is THE key step before the One World Government can take over.
As much as I'd love to see a hundred million dead democrats... we have to find a solution that actually unites the country against the shadow government, which is the enemy of every American, even if the democrat's voters don't realize it.
I have no clue on how to accomplish that... people are just too brainwashed. Clearly we have to start by absolutely destroying the MSM and Hollywood. The propaganda and conditioning has to stop first.
We need to win the information war.
The order should go:
Once those are dealt with, that's when you go for the deep staters.
In a secession, I'm not worried about being invaded by foreign armies. We take the military with us and the blue dots wouldn't be able to mount an invasion. They wouldn't dare try to mount an attack against us because they would easily be leveled thanks to cramming themselves together in a tight space.
I'll believe it when I see. The "masses" have been shit on for four years straight and done nothing but take it up the ass. Jack at twitter is probably laughing at all of us. Sure we like to fly the Gadsden flag and all but I am becoming more and more convinced that it's just virtue signalling and we are all bark, no bite.
The fact that after all this time there isn't even one person with a terminal illness that took a stand against this tyranny should tell us all we need to know about how likely a rebellion actually is. At this point the second ammendment is probably more helpful to the far left than us. If they regain full institutional control on Jan 20 then any rebellion will just be another excuse for them to increase their power even further. I can see it now. Like COVID they will need special powers to deal with all the "white supremacist violence". Sorry but the time for action was yesterday. People who think there will be some sort of armed rebellion after the fact are delusional and haven't been paying attention. A rebellion before a transfer of power could work, but it would have to come from the top. I think Trump is all talk here too though so I won't get my hopes up. I hope I'm wrong though. But I don't see any scenario where we ever come out ahead if we pass the 20th without some sort of Kraken bombshell. Anyone looking to 2024 to save us has been living under a rock the last four years. End rant.
Agreed. There are plenty of people in my own family that want to tear down America, much less on the even more radical left. These people want communism, they want invaders to take over. They are the useful idiots that will be coming to your door to take you to the gulag, right before they're sent off themselves.
It's not even if Trump wins or loses as much as it's the way in which the left wants to win. If Biden legitimately won, things would suck, millions of more illegals would pour over the borders, socialism would advance, but we could in theory recover. Winning via fraud though is putting us on the path to an Empire instead of a Republic. And just like in Rome, many will cheer it on because they think they're getting an Augustus and not a Caligula.
This is for all the cookies in the cookie jar folks. If we let them get away with it, we are fucked long and hard for generations.
It’s so frustrating people don’t realize this and still talk about 2022 and 2024
The amount of times I had to explain this to conservatives is so frustrating.
“We’ll get the midterms in 2022...”
It’s like they don’t realize that there will never be another fair election if we don’t fix this one
Yep... 2016 was the first time there was a real choice... But the media believed their fake news enough to not take Trump seriously... Usually they just rig the primary (less voters, lower profile) so the general is the illusion of choice.
With Trump, America First is on the table and the oligarchy hates that and wants to return to America gets raped...
Just because he was a piece of shit doesn't mean he didn't know what he was doing. He was able to amass that power for a reason.
also, even if our votes DID count (which they clearly don't).....NOT voting for the rino means the libtard wins by that much more, so that's a lose-lose situation
It actually means it just saves them from producing a few more fake ballots. The margins will be the same no matter what.
and if we dont win now why would our vote magically start to count? not voting or voting will not hurt anyone if we lose now.
BUT withholding financial support will. i will not Support the GOP with any $$$ if Trump is not the President on Jan 21st. i will Blame 100% the GOP if Trump is not in the WhiteHouse on Jan 21st. i will not be part of or support the controlled opposition GOP of Romney/Sasse/Jeb/Ryan
thought some more about this, and if the GA RINOs cuck out, what if the GA magas just don't bother to vote at all in the run-off? I mean give them LITERALLY zero votes? Nothing to lose since we know it's rigged, and maybe zero votes totally fucks up the algorithm...might at least be fun to watch
The downward spiral of American politics.
My comment history is filled with this very reminder. It's amazing how many times I keep hearing, "If they don't comply, we'll vote them out" as if nobody is understanding the big picture. If this many people think simply voting in primaries in two years fixes anything, get used to Communism.
100% its over after this. you might as well burn the constitution. US will cease to exist
Nonsense! It will continue on, as a socialist/communist wonder, populated by the finest doctors and lawyers the third-world can offer!
"Well, yeah, OK, they cheated and won but they won't try that again."
Seriously. It’s a seditious conspiracy and they have been fucking you for years. This year they finished all over your face and laughed at you. The most you can hope from the next election is that they’ll give you a warning so you can close your eyes first.
there is no next time under communism, but people do not seem to understand that.
They hope they can hide in the woods or something and no one will come for them. Or they'll be self-sufficient farmers and not get genocides like the kulaks.
people do not seem to understand communism, they say they do but they truly do not, if they did there would be a communist purge by now.
Thanks for explaining this. Lots of people are really dumb. They don't understand what is going on.
EXACTLY. THANK YOU.
yup
You could have an election where 15 people vote nationwide and they'll just say that millions went out and exercised their rights in the democratic process with consent to be governed.
Exactly right. Nobody's vote will be matter. Winners will be picked by a few people who pay the most to rig the voting machines in favor of their candidate.
They don't want to get it. It's a bitter pill to swallow.
THIS. There is no "next time" . Next time the Repubs, get voted out in 22, the dems now will control the senate and the house. The Repubs NEVER will win another election going forward.
The big picture is that the GOP and DNC have been selecting winners across the board. They don't need to win a blue majority. They already control the house and senate and always will. They're a uniparty.
they're shills. "we'll get 'em next time!" "stop fighting, there's no point!" "turn the other cheek, you're supposed to be Christian!" blah blah
"submit to evil, that's totally what Christ meant!" -random atheist online trying to convince you Christianity means submission and weakness.
The RINOs need the fraud to beat their conservative opponents in the primaries. That's why they do NOTHING to stop election fraud.
THANK YOU!
Same thing goes for people who say "well we survived 8 years of Obama". Obama created a corrupt government with entrenched power that stonewalls with fake investigations any candidate that somehow overcomes their fraud efforts. If we don't fix this now, we did not survive 8 years of Obama.
Yup, exactly. We either stand and fight now, actually fight not just make memes, or we accept that China is our new overlord.
We will not lose , they can not take away our constitutional right to self governance without taking it from our cold dead hands.
Voting out? It’ll happen naturally. If President Trump doesn’t win most of us won’t vote again. Why bother if it’s all rigged anyways? If he, loses the office to cheaters after rightfully winning. I’m done voting. So yeah the Republicans lose forever. But then it’s time for a different plan at that point.
The Republicans didn't lose here. They all won their seats in exchange for selling out the nation.
I’m saying they will if they don’t support Trump. They won on his stolen wave
Yup
So much this.
There is nothing but a banana republic left of the United States if this election stands. This is the last stand.
Trump is holding out hope that if he supports the two Senate candidates in Georgia that they will support him in return in his bid for an audit of the Georgia election. It's horse trading.
Notice how Loeffler has been supportive of Trump as long as she thinks her seat is at risk and thinks she needs the support of his voters? As soon as Trump is no longer useful, Loeffler and Purdue will dump him. Kemp already won reelection by trading his state for it, so that's why he has come out against Trump publicly.
Yeah exactly, like they give a fuck if you vote and who you vote for.
thats the thing. if we roll over for stolen elections we dont have a free country any more!
The morons know they wont be able to vote for republicans after this election. The only votes for republicans after this will be losing votes.
This is correct. If they steal this, we will never have a voice again.
That would cause a civil war at this point. Which might not be a bad thing, considering we're facing endless tyranny otherwise. But it would've been better to use it before the election.