Go educate yourself and start to recognize how media has brainwashed your dumb ass into thinking that garbage is now a “climate” issue.
And how easily they manipulated you into taking up their political position without so much as a single minute of research or critical thought on your own behalf.
Also let me know why you would ever need a climate lockdown to eliminate plastic generated by people as if that would somehow eliminate plastic waste.
Not only that but just starting a sentence with the phrase “you can’t argue” is an absolute sign of someone who thinks they are way more intelligent than they actually are.
I'm well aware that they are two separate things in the minds of most rational people, but the people who are happily trying to lock us down for whatever reason they can find are the self-same egotistical twats that are running the companies that churn out all the crap that ends up getting thrown away and polluting the very air we breathe and the food we eat.
If you don't think there's a relationship there then perhaps it is not I that needs to 'learn some stuff'.
Also, are you saying you could argue that there isn't a shit-tonne of plastic in our food chain? There's so much evidence it would border on liberlism to even contemplate denying it :P
If you are worried about actual pollution then you want poor countries to become rich and this can only be achieved by industrial development and fossil fuel energy.
Don’t blame someone for trying to turn a profit. If the product is destructive the responsibility for its use falls to the consumer. Are you really saying it’s more egotistical to run a for profit corporation than it is to use a product daily and pretend like the problem is not yours? You really going to try to claim you don’t use plastic?!?!
You want to talk liberalism, how about playing the game where you treat everyone else like they are idiots and will just accept anything you say at face value. Please.
That's real environmentalism, not globalists boondoggles. Clean air and clean water is a good policy, and there's a ton of work we can do to improve there. The whole point of global warming is to create a problem so big it can only be solved by submitting to the NWO.
Lol I eat a carnivore diet and almost exclusively subsist on red meat. My government is just going to tell me I no longer have the right to do that? Fuckkkk that.
It’s the opposite. Sugar/processed are definitely bad. On no planet whatsoever are any plants bad. Big pharma wants the population to be fat and sick so they can dole out lifelong statin and cholesterol prescriptions. There is no “Big Broccoli”. Some people process red meat better than others so your age is also factor - you might not feel the effects until late 40s/50s/60s. But the link between meat and cholesterol and heart disease is fully, scientifically and independently proven - the studies that say otherwise are funded by big meat/dairy. Literally no one who is plant based is dying from heart disease it’s happening to meat eaters exclusively and doctors regularly successfully reverse severe heart disease with plant based diets. It even effects erectile size by the way, with more plant based men achieving their “full erectile potential“. This is the actual red pill, but because it’s for some reason associated with the left and climate change it doesn’t get any traction among conservative men.
Nah, there are many dangerous inflammatories in vegetables, particularly in nightshades. And there is absolutely a Big Food that includes industrial-farmed meats of all kinds (which I would absolutely avoid), soybeans, corn, grains, legumes, etc. Trusting mainstream dietary guidance is as naive as trusting MSM.
We can disagree on that and that’s fine, but bottom line is that the government can’t ban me from eating foods that it has determined “contribute to climate change.”
Nightshades can be bad for some people with certain conditions but they are healthy for the majority. It’s like having an allergy - nuts are healthy but not to people allergic to them.
Lol do you really think the bean people are contributing to duping the public health? It’s literally majority meat and dairy working in tandem with pharma.
Mainstream food guidelines are not vegan. Veganism is still a hugely niche activity among both liberals and conservatives.
I definitely don’t think they should ban people from eating beef. They need to just make it significantly more expensive to the point that people will seek alternatives.
I’ve seen the arguments from both sides. If you want to be intellectually honest and see the other side, I recommend the game changers documentary on Netflix because it focuses on men and athletic ability. Mic The Vegan on youtube has a masters in public health and is very informative and entertaining and cites all his sources in the description (and doesn’t use MSM).
My husbands (who was already healthy and young and nothing was wrong) cholesterol halved in the span of a few months when we went plant based. His doctor was shook and was asking what he did so he could help older patients. Irritated skin on myself also cleared up (I suspect dairy for that though). We still eat meat occasionally when we order in, we are not nutjobs about it. But both top level actual non MSM science and personal experience both agree here.
Because the current price does not accurately reflect its full costs on the environment, animals, and public health (and by extension our tax dollars that go to gov sponsored healthcare and prescriptions that overwhelmingly go to heart disease and diabetes repeated complications).
And from my personal experience, health improved tremendously when I went high fat/low carb and even more so once I went full carnivore. I know the other side well because I lived it for years, and used to cook several meat-free meals per week. I was also lethargic, gassy, and my lifts would always stall out. And every single data point in my blood work was improved in the current way I eat.
I have friends who are vegetarians/vegan and they look like the Marshmallow Man, but skinny. Basically the definition of skinny fat.
I appreciate your advice, it just doesn’t work for me.
Deeply, it's about how much money the deep State and Facebook can extract putting us all on carbon-based rationing for the types of car we drive, how much square footage our house has, how warm we keep it, how far we go. They want cars connected to the internet so they can shut them off if you used too much gas that month.
Facebook feeding the data to the government agencies and pseudo agencies
I don’t care about red meat but PRIVATE VEHICLE USE? And wth does “extreme energy-saving” mean?? We’re gonna live in the dark with candles for light and churn butter by hand? Hell no
These people gonna have to be put down eventually. Why are they so confident to suggest such things. We need to repick our allies. Put the obviously scheming and common core strategy folks in our enemy column. And if it’s just us and against the world, I’d rather that.
They want us all dead anyways. Why do they care if the earth does the job for them? If we all die due to the climate crisis the earth will carry on and repair itself. This isn't about saving anything. This is about power and money.
Shouldn't we just do everything we did in the 60s? The 70s was almost going to be the ice age. So a return to our way of life in the 60s or even 50s should fix everything.
I agree. Let start with all the Hollywood celebs. Put them into concentration camps of eating bugs and using heavy fur in winter for a few months. When they get out, we will do exactly as they do forward that moment.
Climate Crisis, Climate Change, Global Warming. All made up by algore in the '90's.
algore also invented the internet. algore also invented the dangerous man-bear-pig.
Here we go. Get the populace accustomed to being locked down animals and you can introduce it in perpetuity afterwards. How better to control everyone than to have them under lock and key?
Honestly the red meat actually is terrible on the environment - forget climate change and just focus on environment destruction. Factory farming is the cause of most rainforest deforestation and has led to extremely polluted rivers due to waste run off and can be attributed to romaine recalls due to e.coli. It even has led to lots of cancer in communities around certain areas due to the chemical sprays they use constantly. Factory farming itself is cruel and disgusting if you actually expose yourselves to it. And the methane being released from cows is actually a thing and is a worse pollutant than cars. And public health wise it’s a gigantic contributor to our heart disease incidences which is currently our biggest killer. HOWEVER banning consumption is stupid, they just need to a) not subsidize it which they do and b) regulate the farms so they can’t be so packed and animals have to be able to have green pastures etc - these two things alone would make red meat expensive enough that people would eat way less of it and also give way for vegan meats to compete (they actually taste amazing nowadays). If everything was “grass fed beef” it would be 2-3x more expensive than it is now and that would be enough to make people only eat it for special occasions.
And the methane being released from cows is actually a thing and is a worse pollutant than cars
Methane breaks down in the atmosphere after a few years, unlike CO2 or other greenhouse gases. While it's more powerful per unit, it isn't as potent a threat as other emissions (if you buy into that type of deal).
All the while flying around in jets and living high off the fat of the land.
It's those fucking arseholes that put the world in the position.
What position? There is no real climate crisis.
You can't argue there isn't a shit-tonne of plastic waste polluting our food chain
Cavalier abuse of our natural ecosystems is real and worth taking steps to address. It has nothing to do with religious climate changism.
They are related by dint of being the same arse bandits who are in charge of shitting on everyone and everything they can hover their arses over.
Dude.
This thread is about the climate.
Not garbage entering the food chain.
Go educate yourself and start to recognize how media has brainwashed your dumb ass into thinking that garbage is now a “climate” issue.
And how easily they manipulated you into taking up their political position without so much as a single minute of research or critical thought on your own behalf.
Also let me know why you would ever need a climate lockdown to eliminate plastic generated by people as if that would somehow eliminate plastic waste.
Not only that but just starting a sentence with the phrase “you can’t argue” is an absolute sign of someone who thinks they are way more intelligent than they actually are.
Go learn some stuff.
I'm well aware that they are two separate things in the minds of most rational people, but the people who are happily trying to lock us down for whatever reason they can find are the self-same egotistical twats that are running the companies that churn out all the crap that ends up getting thrown away and polluting the very air we breathe and the food we eat.
If you don't think there's a relationship there then perhaps it is not I that needs to 'learn some stuff'.
Also, are you saying you could argue that there isn't a shit-tonne of plastic in our food chain? There's so much evidence it would border on liberlism to even contemplate denying it :P
If you are worried about actual pollution then you want poor countries to become rich and this can only be achieved by industrial development and fossil fuel energy.
Stay on point. That’s climate.
Don’t blame someone for trying to turn a profit. If the product is destructive the responsibility for its use falls to the consumer. Are you really saying it’s more egotistical to run a for profit corporation than it is to use a product daily and pretend like the problem is not yours? You really going to try to claim you don’t use plastic?!?!
You want to talk liberalism, how about playing the game where you treat everyone else like they are idiots and will just accept anything you say at face value. Please.
Go get educated.
Thanks, Chyna and India.
and its all from africa and asia
That's real environmentalism, not globalists boondoggles. Clean air and clean water is a good policy, and there's a ton of work we can do to improve there. The whole point of global warming is to create a problem so big it can only be solved by submitting to the NWO.
Theres shit wrong. But their doom saying and solutions are both infinitely worse than the real problems.
Fish populations are declining rapidly due to over fishing by 3rd world countries
Theres a huge amount of plastic waste in the ocean, provided by third world countries and China
China is a huge carbon emitter
And so many other problems.
But bone of those problems require communism to fix them
Lol I eat a carnivore diet and almost exclusively subsist on red meat. My government is just going to tell me I no longer have the right to do that? Fuckkkk that.
Just say you identify as a lion and can eat red meat. Voila. Use their bullshit rules against them.
Bahaha I love this idea.
Checked your cholesterol levels lately bud ?
A big red pill for me was realizing the lies we’ve been told by Big Food and Big Pharma about the Standard American Diet.
I’m in phenomenal health (yes, including cholesterol), and my energy level is through the roof. T levels are high as fuck.
It’s almost like sugar, processed foods, and yes, even some plants, are pushed on us to make us weak and keep us reliant on Big Pharma.
It’s the opposite. Sugar/processed are definitely bad. On no planet whatsoever are any plants bad. Big pharma wants the population to be fat and sick so they can dole out lifelong statin and cholesterol prescriptions. There is no “Big Broccoli”. Some people process red meat better than others so your age is also factor - you might not feel the effects until late 40s/50s/60s. But the link between meat and cholesterol and heart disease is fully, scientifically and independently proven - the studies that say otherwise are funded by big meat/dairy. Literally no one who is plant based is dying from heart disease it’s happening to meat eaters exclusively and doctors regularly successfully reverse severe heart disease with plant based diets. It even effects erectile size by the way, with more plant based men achieving their “full erectile potential“. This is the actual red pill, but because it’s for some reason associated with the left and climate change it doesn’t get any traction among conservative men.
Nah, there are many dangerous inflammatories in vegetables, particularly in nightshades. And there is absolutely a Big Food that includes industrial-farmed meats of all kinds (which I would absolutely avoid), soybeans, corn, grains, legumes, etc. Trusting mainstream dietary guidance is as naive as trusting MSM.
We can disagree on that and that’s fine, but bottom line is that the government can’t ban me from eating foods that it has determined “contribute to climate change.”
Nightshades can be bad for some people with certain conditions but they are healthy for the majority. It’s like having an allergy - nuts are healthy but not to people allergic to them.
Lol do you really think the bean people are contributing to duping the public health? It’s literally majority meat and dairy working in tandem with pharma.
Mainstream food guidelines are not vegan. Veganism is still a hugely niche activity among both liberals and conservatives.
I definitely don’t think they should ban people from eating beef. They need to just make it significantly more expensive to the point that people will seek alternatives.
I’ve seen the arguments from both sides. If you want to be intellectually honest and see the other side, I recommend the game changers documentary on Netflix because it focuses on men and athletic ability. Mic The Vegan on youtube has a masters in public health and is very informative and entertaining and cites all his sources in the description (and doesn’t use MSM).
My husbands (who was already healthy and young and nothing was wrong) cholesterol halved in the span of a few months when we went plant based. His doctor was shook and was asking what he did so he could help older patients. Irritated skin on myself also cleared up (I suspect dairy for that though). We still eat meat occasionally when we order in, we are not nutjobs about it. But both top level actual non MSM science and personal experience both agree here.
Why make it more expensive?
People should be free to decide what they want to eat regardless of health benefits.
Because the current price does not accurately reflect its full costs on the environment, animals, and public health (and by extension our tax dollars that go to gov sponsored healthcare and prescriptions that overwhelmingly go to heart disease and diabetes repeated complications).
And from my personal experience, health improved tremendously when I went high fat/low carb and even more so once I went full carnivore. I know the other side well because I lived it for years, and used to cook several meat-free meals per week. I was also lethargic, gassy, and my lifts would always stall out. And every single data point in my blood work was improved in the current way I eat.
I have friends who are vegetarians/vegan and they look like the Marshmallow Man, but skinny. Basically the definition of skinny fat.
I appreciate your advice, it just doesn’t work for me.
Yeah they can suck my dick with that bullshit.
Did you just figure out 2020 was a trial run?
Once they get their foot in the door they will never let that door close
Last time i checked climate related deaths are at an all time low.
The climate is naturally dangerous and historically has killed more human beings then anything else.
We protect ourselves from a naturally dangerous climate by consuming fossil fuel energy.
The enviro-tards will never be able to impose their neoluddite, neomalthusian, anti-human agenda.
Swear on my grandmother's life: if you lock us down for the environment, I will burn plastic on my yard every single day so help me God.
Deeply, it's about how much money the deep State and Facebook can extract putting us all on carbon-based rationing for the types of car we drive, how much square footage our house has, how warm we keep it, how far we go. They want cars connected to the internet so they can shut them off if you used too much gas that month.
Facebook feeding the data to the government agencies and pseudo agencies
Alex Jones nailed it when he talked about Data Hive Mind with AI on Joe Rogan. Elon Musk mentioned something similar.
Can't ban consumption of red meat if I raise my own cow!
Come at me.
The Western states are burning due to arson. And they can get fucked about my red meat consumption.
I don’t care about red meat but PRIVATE VEHICLE USE? And wth does “extreme energy-saving” mean?? We’re gonna live in the dark with candles for light and churn butter by hand? Hell no
If you have to rely on an unreliable source of electricity like solar or wind then the answer is yes.... blackouts and brownouts galore
You know what commies used for light before candles?
So they just rebranded AOCs green deal
As usual, BLM and Antifa will be exempt from "Climate Lockdowns" and can do whatever they want.
Will India and China also be cutting emissions?
Wait.... trump asked this already. I think he said that these restrictions are just designed to destroy the us economy.
I just came up with a way to reduce global emissions by 50%!! Cut Chinas emissions to zero.
So holocaust for climate change. Ok.
These people gonna have to be put down eventually. Why are they so confident to suggest such things. We need to repick our allies. Put the obviously scheming and common core strategy folks in our enemy column. And if it’s just us and against the world, I’d rather that.
Stop melting our icebergs and stay home you bigots
I believe this is called "going back to the stone age"
Sounds like communism
They want us all dead anyways. Why do they care if the earth does the job for them? If we all die due to the climate crisis the earth will carry on and repair itself. This isn't about saving anything. This is about power and money.
Shouldn't we just do everything we did in the 60s? The 70s was almost going to be the ice age. So a return to our way of life in the 60s or even 50s should fix everything.
Yep.
I agree. Let start with all the Hollywood celebs. Put them into concentration camps of eating bugs and using heavy fur in winter for a few months. When they get out, we will do exactly as they do forward that moment.
Sorry buddy, can't do that - warming yourself with big furs is animal cruelty, didn't you know? ... /s
But, without a big red box or an obnoxious amount of yellow highlighter, how do I know what the relevant part of the image is?
Climate change is just a bunch if CRAP. It's a JOKE. I honestly don't know how anyone falls for these LIES.
Also, China would obviously be exempt.
Unless private planes are banned first then thier argument hold no validity. End of conversation. Fuck off.
Climate Crisis, Climate Change, Global Warming. All made up by algore in the '90's. algore also invented the internet. algore also invented the dangerous man-bear-pig.
if they make us wear mask for a non contagious virus they will make us wear fart catchers for the global warming hoax but its a process
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odj1IwJA8Cs
Part of the Great Reset bullshit
That does it. the Plandemic is a real conspiracy. Shut those crooked politicians down.
Here we go. Get the populace accustomed to being locked down animals and you can introduce it in perpetuity afterwards. How better to control everyone than to have them under lock and key?
FUCKING HELL.
WE ARE LIVING THE NIGHTMARE NOW SHOULD THE GLOBALIST ELITES CONTINUE TO PUSH THIS CRAP INTO EVERYDAY REALITY.
What's the source? I'd love to share this if we can find the source.
Thank you!
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Honestly the red meat actually is terrible on the environment - forget climate change and just focus on environment destruction. Factory farming is the cause of most rainforest deforestation and has led to extremely polluted rivers due to waste run off and can be attributed to romaine recalls due to e.coli. It even has led to lots of cancer in communities around certain areas due to the chemical sprays they use constantly. Factory farming itself is cruel and disgusting if you actually expose yourselves to it. And the methane being released from cows is actually a thing and is a worse pollutant than cars. And public health wise it’s a gigantic contributor to our heart disease incidences which is currently our biggest killer. HOWEVER banning consumption is stupid, they just need to a) not subsidize it which they do and b) regulate the farms so they can’t be so packed and animals have to be able to have green pastures etc - these two things alone would make red meat expensive enough that people would eat way less of it and also give way for vegan meats to compete (they actually taste amazing nowadays). If everything was “grass fed beef” it would be 2-3x more expensive than it is now and that would be enough to make people only eat it for special occasions.
Why would i want to eat less red meat?
I like eating red meat.
Methane breaks down in the atmosphere after a few years, unlike CO2 or other greenhouse gases. While it's more powerful per unit, it isn't as potent a threat as other emissions (if you buy into that type of deal).
HANDS OFF MY MEAT, BRO.