Thank you I am honestly not sure how to process it feels surreal, and the fake god damn news media and al this bullshit is too fucking much to bear right now.
This child will never leave your hearts. You will see them in Heaven. It is okay to be sad that you won’t meet them until you get there!
But—you will have eternity to get to know them and love them.
I pray that The LORD hold all of you in His Most Capable Arms! Please be patient with one another while you heal, physically and emotionally.
He’s right not sure why the downvotes. We are all fucked the world is going to hell in a hand basket. As much of a loss as we are experiencing the greater disaster of losing a world worth fighting for for all children’s sake is looming.
PS: this would have been our second child. It makes me sick the world out beautiful daughter is dealing with and having to experience at such a young age. I can’t imagine things getting worse and I grieve also for the loss of our culture and values that she and her children may not ever know if communism continues to take hold.
My sympathies for your family's situation. It's a horrific ordeal, and I'm glad that maybe you could find some support here.
Regarding the state of the world, yes we must be on guard, but the situation is far from lost. That's what the vile scum in the media - the people who are solely responsible for this bullshit being taken seriously at all - want you to believe. They want you despondent and beaten, they want you to surrender and believe that they represent the majority and that there is no hope.
But they're just a small group of pathetic, miserable losers located in two cities, like sjws and antifa. There are tens (or hundreds) of millions of normal, decent people out there who don't buy their lies and propaganda. Most of whom probably pay no attention to their nonsense, and will reject it if forced to. Don't let them trick you, they are not the majority, they're not even a significant minority. The only power they have is that they control the "established" media, and that media is dying faster and faster every day.
Right now it seems that way, but take comfort in the fact that there is always still hope. Don't let go of that; even in the darkest situation you can't give up hope.
I'll add: right now, just focus on your family; the world will do what it does -- you have your life to attend to right now.
Lets talk economics to somebody losing a child. Yeaahhh... pleass return to whatever swamp you emerged from, as it's obvious nobody would ever touch you even for breeding purposes.
Your wife will need a calm and loving husband. Please reach deep within, and let God help you to find some peace. Deal with the hospital business later.
Not being hungry will help. Try to remember your wife needs you to be calm, not angry. You can’t control this situation, but you can control your attitude. Be a comfort.
Well said. What has been done to harm people in so very many ways during this pandemic is criminal and I believe there are people orchestrating it for political purposes. There are a lot of Karen types and frightened cowards enabling it, but those who are hurting people just to get their desired outcome in an election should all roast in hell.
I'm so very sorry you, your wife and son had to go through this, too.
This story and the original post is making me cry. Its truly a battle of good vs evil. What they are doing to people is inhumane and cruel. Im sorry for both of your situations. The Doctor keeps asking me to take my kids in for a checkup and get their flu shot. Im holding them close and avoiding that place like the plague (and Im a healthcare worker) Im reverting to old times, unless there is something life threatening I am taking care of my kids myself as well as letting them play with their friends and enjoy life. This is bullshit.
Exactly if I started making a scene every asshat in the waiting room would whip out their phones and before I know it I’d be on CNN as a crazy white man who was trying to spread RONIE RONA!!!!
But that video would also be on the Donald.win as "a heartbroken father can't see his wife", and patriots would watch with heavy heart and understanding. Not saying to do that but..... we'd all understand.
I have to say, in my life, the one prayer that the Lord has always answered in immediate and overwhelming fashion was to ask the He give me the peace of His Holy Spirit. A supernatural calm. It has gotten me through so much. I will ask He do the same for you now so you may be strong for your wife.
From a women's perspective, I grieved for months heavily and quietly forever. My husband was being too strong for me. I needed to see him grieve with me. That's what helped the most, that I wasn't alone.
Men don’t grieve for lost children the same way you do. We will definitely feel your pain, though, and try to fix it somehow. This usually makes the woman angry at the man. We will say dumb things like “we can try again” or “there’s always adoption” as if a replacement child should make it all better.
Just know that is normal and a good husband is there for you but he will never feel the same about the child.
Men go at this with the "I'll be the strong one; I'll find the fix" -- I've come to think it is their mode of grieving, just as sharp as any woman's, just expressed in a different way.
I would say that men and women have to be strong for each other -- each in their own different ways.
We don't need them to grieve the same way or as long, just to share that they are grieving for a lost child with us. My husband hid it from me initially and said those dumb things you listed. It did not help. A child isn't replaceable as a balm and that is the last thing we want to hear honestly.
Oh yes, the guilt. Her monthlies will be devastating for a while. Do not promise that she will get pregnant again. It doesn't always happen. Just give her love and support.
Does the hospital have a Chaplin? Can you request a visit for your wife?
Very true. When we had our miscarriage I was there for my wife in every way possible. I got her home from the doctors office following the D&C (missed miscarriage at 6 weeks), made her comfortable, brought her food and water and then went to go pee and instead found myself sitting on the bathroom floor crying for about 5 minutes. Gathered myself up and went back to my husbandly duties.
Dude...I'm sorry to hear this...and there are no words that I can say that would even start to try and express how bad I feel for you. It's a piss poor shame...that the nation is allowing the elderly to die alone, suicides to rise, a while ago, a kid in my neighborhood got shot in the face with a shotgun, and the doctors wouldnt let the dad in with the mom to see him...
This is too much. Fuck this system, fuck this fake virus, and fuck the left.
Thank you I am sitting alone in my car and she is alone inside, meanwhile other couples are enjoying pints of beer and pizza together across the street from the hospital. If they can fucking do that I should allowed to enter the hospital this is fucking insane.
This hits a new level. This is torture of the American people. This is them literally saying "we don't need you to be a husband, she's fine with us...the Government run system." Infuriating...
We are being thrown into spiritual warfare that we could not have imagined as a free people in 2020.
You are both experiencing a loss of life. Miscarriages are so painful, my wife and I planted a tree in the yard. Gave the miscarried child a name and we know that the human spirit/consciousness developing in him had been called up to God.
Call in to the hospital in a week and speak to a higher-up.
Express your pain. Get it out.
Hey brother. Your story really touched me, I am so sorry for your loss. I will pray for you. Also if you force your way in or sneak in no jury would convict you, if arrested it will be a revolving door charge. If you were to do this you'd be a martyr to many in this covid bullshit for very little cost and possibly quite some benefit after. Video tape and live stream everything if you do.
Those bastards are hyping the Rona hysteria as bad as anyone. I refuse to watch any local news anymore. They're all in on pushing the scam and probably would do a story that frames the OP in a light that he's trying to "endanger" all of the sick people in the hospital by visiting his wife.
You have to isolate and not see anyone or you might kill Grandma. Now sit tight while Grandma dies miserably and alone unable to see any of her family.
It sure is. Turn to god for comfort. Let him know all that’s on your mind and ask him for comfort for you and for your wife.
I’m so sorry that your tragedy is compounded by political posturing and stupidity of the hospital and medical industry.
Blame the administration of the hospital, not the doctors. When I have to tell people they can or can't come in, it's not the doctor I talk to. It's some administrator, sitting at home, while I'm in the hospital with the patients.
None. That's why you sit and wait. Sometimes we have to appear weak. Make sure you are there when she get out instead of putting her in your position. You don’t want to be sitting in jail knowing they (probably) won’t allow visitors and your wife is waiting outside but can’t come in to see you. I know it’s hard man. You are right to be upset. You are also right to not be violent especially right now.
I get what you’re saying but it’s also a lot of justifying of your oppression. He’s silent today, so is the next guy, and the next. All of the while these women suffer this terrible heartbreak alone. But at least you didn’t ruffle any feathers right?
If you can figure out how to get my wife to channel anger at people other than me (especially when it's 100% my fault), please let me know. I'd pay infinite dollars for that power
Known people who did it in the before Wuhan Coronavirus days because they weren't legally family. Nothing happened. Whether or not the police would take it seriously or not now is likely different, and would vary from state to state and region.
When I went to Thanksgiving at my mom's the cops were much different about Coronavirus than where I live.
Screw you. This guy is not in the right place right now. Don't go suggesting this. Wait until Trump gives the order, then we fight. Nothing personal, but this advice is horrible. This couple wouldn't be able to grieve together if the husband is in jail.
If you're in Toronto I wanna see if I can raise a racket, but I'm typing this in midnight with me going to work tomorrow morning. I dunno if I can get some friends to help out but outside of that, best of luck to you.
The cognitive dissonance starts right with their name “liberals” It’s all downhill from there. This is exactly what led me away from being a liberal about five years ago, the cognitive dissonance was destroying my mind and making me depressed. It’s like living every day thinking that the sky is green and it’s your fault. These people are fucking insane and should go to hell, I used to feel sorry for them but quite honestly they should all be lined up and shot. Things have gone too far
Thank you for this comment about your experience. I have a lefty relative and have seen her literally have a nervous breakdown after an afternoon of exchanging differing political views. No arguments at all. Just a conversation. It was amazing to see her slowly become more and more agitated and then a mental breakdown. Ended hospitalized. Of course we were all devastated because this is a person we love. We believe the cognitive dissonance was too much.
You are so right about the feeling depressed. I think she does too. It is as if they are through their political beliefs denying themselves the right to be happy.
If it's possible for you to talk to her, ask her to beg the doctor to approve u to enter. I know someone in a similar situation a few weeks ago and a good doctor literally came down and escorted the father into the hospital past security. Praying for you and your family.
My wife had a miscarriage years before COVID. If it provides you any comfort to know, she was taken out of the room for various scans and tests without me even back then. It fucking sucked and the doctors basically stare at you bc there's not much they can do to "fix" it. I really feel for you both. It was the lowest point in my life. Take care of you and her bc mentally it will fuck you up.
`the doctors basically stare at you bc there's not much they can do to "fix" it.
Individual doctors don't write hospital policy. They can't even discuss it with you. They could lose their ability to have hospital access for their patients.
/r/ifififififokiedokie don't be reckless. You need to be there when your wife comes home. Be there for her. Pray for peace. You will always remember this child, but the grief will ease with time.
I don't think you understood what I was saying. Doesn't matter bc you're just trying to make a point that nobody cares about. "Fix" it as in the baby is dying and they can't do shit. Nobody gives a shit about the doctors in this scenario.
Yes. Bc she was having an emotional breakdown from losing our child. And seeing the baby on an ultrasound or rather the "tissue" as they called it, was fucking brutal to have in your face alone with a stranger in the room. Don't be dense. You're making an ass out of yourself.
Don't equate a man wanting to support his wife in one of her most difficult moments with fucking BLM. That comment is so retarded.
It's not the doctors decision. It's administration, usually house supervisor at night. During the day, it's probably some MBA who is sitting at home while those of us healthcare workers are there taking care of patients.
They don't want smart people observing the lack of people in the ER and ICU.
Thats it.
I "got lost" in an ICU two weeks ago. Empty beds. They then told me I couldn't see my family member. I told them I have a Constitutional lawyers on retainer [white lie] and would sue the company for emotional damages if I couldn't see them.
They made "an exception".
They lie to us, lie back. Don't swear, don't lose your cool. Speak to the highest paid asshole in that hospital on site right now.
Absolutely this. Hospital administrators don't want your headache on their watch. So give them the biggest gaping headache you can without going to jail. I'd find everyone in admin and doctors on that ward and tag them all on a LinkedIn post shaming them for this behavior.
The sad thing is this is basic communist society. You must lie & cheat & steal & strongarm others because that is the only way to get your basic human wants & needs--Because there is no common decency where rights are not recognized. This is what my parents & grandparents grew up in.
The USA is already devolving into a communist society & The 'Rona is the catalyst speeding it up. There will only be more of this if we don't fight back for our freedoms, first by every legal means, then by violence if still ignored.
Plenty of people in the ICU and ER and floors I worked on in Alabama. No more COVID ICU beds at the travel assignment I'm currently on. Had to keep an active stroke on the med/surg COVID floor because there were no beds.
I tried to comment earlier, my apologies if this is coming through again. This hits close to home for me. I had a miscarriage alone. It was so devastating. My husband was away on travel. This was a few years ago, and although I have been blessed with a son since then, I dearly miss and think about that baby. I believe it was the closest I could ever get to feeling Mary's pain, though it does not even touch what she went through. You now have a treasure up in heaven. The next couple of weeks will be very hard. I am praying for healing for you both now. The pain is hard. It really makes it difficult to stomach the ways of our opposition. God bless you and your wife.
Praying for you and your wife. Know you are not alone and many couples have gone through this, there is no greater grief than losing a child. Have experienced the same, but could not imagine not being able to be there for your spouse.
Well, you really don't want to be in the treatment room right now and it wouldn't help her either, but not letting you be near and waiting is malpractice imo.
If I were in your wife's position, I'd be extremely disappointed in my husband for not going nuclear on them. I would rather die than back down to these authoritarian fucks, and if they refused entry to my husband I would damn well spit in their faces. My mom was arrested and imprisoned back in the Soviet Union for less, you can't put up with this shit because it WILL eventually get to that point if no one puts a stop to it NOW.
Youre not wrong, but at the same time it’s an emergency and she needed treatment NOW I’m not going to try to be a hero and piss off the very people who need to help her when it’s not even technically their faul personally.
As powerless as this must make you feel- this is the right way to handle this unholy situation. Making sure your wife gets the best care, even though it must be torture. Stay strong Pede. I am praying for you and your wife and the child you have lost. Very sorry.
No, no it's not. Complying like this only empowers them to take away yet more rights. Next thing you know, fathers will be quarantined away from mothers and their babies for months before they're allowed to see them. Are you going to be okay with that then too? Are you naive enough to think it won't happen?
It's not about "heroics," it's about your basic HUMAN RIGHTS which they will have no problem continuing to chip away at unless you do something about it. Don't be surprised when that happens, and don't complain about it as you comply then too because you don't want to raise trouble. You being with your wife and her getting proper medical attention are NOT mutually exclusive and yet the normalization of their authoritarianism is already starting to infiltrate your brain when you allow them to use that as a bargaining chip to make you comply.
so, so sorry for your loss. praying for you and your wife. hopefully you'll be with her soon. yes, these people are fucking sick, and this shit needs to stop.
This shit is out of control. It's a God damn flu virus. I'm really sorry, man. So sorry. Bless you for staying close (the parking lot) no matter what. You are a good husband.
God bless you brother. My wife and I went through a couple of those and they are horrible with out the #plandemic. God is faithful my favorite thing to remember is “God is Never late but Rarely early!”
I’m so sorry. You are a righteous man who knows damn that well when he sees something wrong and speaks his mind. Your wife is lucky to have a husband like you. Keeping you, your wife, and your baby in my prayers. Keep the fire, fren. You may need that later. I know she needs the medical help now but you are a protector. She will need that part of you in the future too. Hang strong and love and prayers to you and your family.
Thank you I am honestly not sure how to process it feels surreal, and the fake god damn news media and al this bullshit is too fucking much to bear right now.
Thank you I appreciate the support. I feel stupid posting this here but honestly nowhere else to turn right now.
It’s not stupid. You needed an outlet and know you have a community of support here.
Turn your eyes skyward.
And keep your eyes seaward
TWO IF BY SEA
I feel your pain, OP. Believe me, I know what you're going through (minus the ChynaVirus part)
Be with your wife as soon as possible, and hug and cry. 😔
THE KARENS ARE COMING!!!!
Not stupid at all. So sorry. Take care of your wife. It's going to be a tough road ahead.
This child will never leave your hearts. You will see them in Heaven. It is okay to be sad that you won’t meet them until you get there! But—you will have eternity to get to know them and love them. I pray that The LORD hold all of you in His Most Capable Arms! Please be patient with one another while you heal, physically and emotionally.
You have frens everywhere. Especially in times of gloom and despair. As the pede below said, "Turn you eyes skyward."
It will be all right and stay strong pede!
He’s right not sure why the downvotes. We are all fucked the world is going to hell in a hand basket. As much of a loss as we are experiencing the greater disaster of losing a world worth fighting for for all children’s sake is looming.
PS: this would have been our second child. It makes me sick the world out beautiful daughter is dealing with and having to experience at such a young age. I can’t imagine things getting worse and I grieve also for the loss of our culture and values that she and her children may not ever know if communism continues to take hold.
My sympathies for your family's situation. It's a horrific ordeal, and I'm glad that maybe you could find some support here.
Regarding the state of the world, yes we must be on guard, but the situation is far from lost. That's what the vile scum in the media - the people who are solely responsible for this bullshit being taken seriously at all - want you to believe. They want you despondent and beaten, they want you to surrender and believe that they represent the majority and that there is no hope.
But they're just a small group of pathetic, miserable losers located in two cities, like sjws and antifa. There are tens (or hundreds) of millions of normal, decent people out there who don't buy their lies and propaganda. Most of whom probably pay no attention to their nonsense, and will reject it if forced to. Don't let them trick you, they are not the majority, they're not even a significant minority. The only power they have is that they control the "established" media, and that media is dying faster and faster every day.
Right now it seems that way, but take comfort in the fact that there is always still hope. Don't let go of that; even in the darkest situation you can't give up hope.
I'll add: right now, just focus on your family; the world will do what it does -- you have your life to attend to right now.
Lets talk economics to somebody losing a child. Yeaahhh... pleass return to whatever swamp you emerged from, as it's obvious nobody would ever touch you even for breeding purposes.
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Your wife will need a calm and loving husband. Please reach deep within, and let God help you to find some peace. Deal with the hospital business later.
Exactly me making a scene won’t stop the fucking madness.
Thank you I am trying to relax and stay calm. Got McDonald’s. That’s helping.
My mom passed on march 18th 2020. No gatherings allowed.
Not being hungry will help. Try to remember your wife needs you to be calm, not angry. You can’t control this situation, but you can control your attitude. Be a comfort.
This ⏫
God bless you and your dear wife. 😔
I think there have been more deaths by suicide than by Covid, which is horrible.
Destroy the Family is a cornerstone of communism.
Well said. What has been done to harm people in so very many ways during this pandemic is criminal and I believe there are people orchestrating it for political purposes. There are a lot of Karen types and frightened cowards enabling it, but those who are hurting people just to get their desired outcome in an election should all roast in hell.
I'm so very sorry you, your wife and son had to go through this, too.
This story and the original post is making me cry. Its truly a battle of good vs evil. What they are doing to people is inhumane and cruel. Im sorry for both of your situations. The Doctor keeps asking me to take my kids in for a checkup and get their flu shot. Im holding them close and avoiding that place like the plague (and Im a healthcare worker) Im reverting to old times, unless there is something life threatening I am taking care of my kids myself as well as letting them play with their friends and enjoy life. This is bullshit.
Exactly if I started making a scene every asshat in the waiting room would whip out their phones and before I know it I’d be on CNN as a crazy white man who was trying to spread RONIE RONA!!!!
I’m praying for you both! God is with you!!!
But that video would also be on the Donald.win as "a heartbroken father can't see his wife", and patriots would watch with heavy heart and understanding. Not saying to do that but..... we'd all understand.
My thoughts are, so f'n what. Jus sayin.
Wel I value our privacy during this time And don’t really want to be on fucking CNN about such a personal matter.
I have to say, in my life, the one prayer that the Lord has always answered in immediate and overwhelming fashion was to ask the He give me the peace of His Holy Spirit. A supernatural calm. It has gotten me through so much. I will ask He do the same for you now so you may be strong for your wife.
From a women's perspective, I grieved for months heavily and quietly forever. My husband was being too strong for me. I needed to see him grieve with me. That's what helped the most, that I wasn't alone.
Men don’t grieve for lost children the same way you do. We will definitely feel your pain, though, and try to fix it somehow. This usually makes the woman angry at the man. We will say dumb things like “we can try again” or “there’s always adoption” as if a replacement child should make it all better. Just know that is normal and a good husband is there for you but he will never feel the same about the child.
This.
Men go at this with the "I'll be the strong one; I'll find the fix" -- I've come to think it is their mode of grieving, just as sharp as any woman's, just expressed in a different way.
I would say that men and women have to be strong for each other -- each in their own different ways.
We don't need them to grieve the same way or as long, just to share that they are grieving for a lost child with us. My husband hid it from me initially and said those dumb things you listed. It did not help. A child isn't replaceable as a balm and that is the last thing we want to hear honestly.
This was my experience too. Losing my child and feeling like I was the only one mourning was the most difficult period of my life.
Wish we could all clog up their phone lines and tell them what absolute steaming sacks of Chris Wallace they are.
Can't believe nobody there has compassion. I'm so sorry for your loss. Your family will be in our prayers.
You can do this. Just think of your wife feeling betrayed (maybe guilty) by her body. It really messes with a woman's psyche. Much love to you both.
Oh yes, the guilt. Her monthlies will be devastating for a while. Do not promise that she will get pregnant again. It doesn't always happen. Just give her love and support.
Does the hospital have a Chaplin? Can you request a visit for your wife?
Very true. When we had our miscarriage I was there for my wife in every way possible. I got her home from the doctors office following the D&C (missed miscarriage at 6 weeks), made her comfortable, brought her food and water and then went to go pee and instead found myself sitting on the bathroom floor crying for about 5 minutes. Gathered myself up and went back to my husbandly duties.
Bless you for the strength and support you gave to her!
Good man. She just needed to know you were there for her. Sorry for your loss.
Prayers for you all. May God send angels to comfort you both
Hang in there brother.
Dude...I'm sorry to hear this...and there are no words that I can say that would even start to try and express how bad I feel for you. It's a piss poor shame...that the nation is allowing the elderly to die alone, suicides to rise, a while ago, a kid in my neighborhood got shot in the face with a shotgun, and the doctors wouldnt let the dad in with the mom to see him...
This is too much. Fuck this system, fuck this fake virus, and fuck the left.
I'm truly sorry for your situation....
Thank you I am sitting alone in my car and she is alone inside, meanwhile other couples are enjoying pints of beer and pizza together across the street from the hospital. If they can fucking do that I should allowed to enter the hospital this is fucking insane.
This hits a new level. This is torture of the American people. This is them literally saying "we don't need you to be a husband, she's fine with us...the Government run system." Infuriating...
It’s completely inhuman!!! THESE PEOPLE ARE SICK
It’s things like this I won’t forget. these people are the cancer of the earth.
And you both will come out of this stronger.
We are being thrown into spiritual warfare that we could not have imagined as a free people in 2020.
You are both experiencing a loss of life. Miscarriages are so painful, my wife and I planted a tree in the yard. Gave the miscarried child a name and we know that the human spirit/consciousness developing in him had been called up to God.
Call in to the hospital in a week and speak to a higher-up. Express your pain. Get it out.
Praying for you, take care brother.
How is any of this constitutional?
That's actually a great point.
Hey brother. Your story really touched me, I am so sorry for your loss. I will pray for you. Also if you force your way in or sneak in no jury would convict you, if arrested it will be a revolving door charge. If you were to do this you'd be a martyr to many in this covid bullshit for very little cost and possibly quite some benefit after. Video tape and live stream everything if you do.
Just sayin
Theyre gonna piss off the wrong guy one day...
You don't fuck with someone with nothing left lose.
Just make sure your not in a deep blue state
Those bastards are hyping the Rona hysteria as bad as anyone. I refuse to watch any local news anymore. They're all in on pushing the scam and probably would do a story that frames the OP in a light that he's trying to "endanger" all of the sick people in the hospital by visiting his wife.
Why not, they make money off the whole Rona conspiracy.
It’s not isolated. It’s the new norm.
Lots have died alone in past 6 months, not sharing final moments with family and loved ones.
Lots have been buried with 6 person limits at the funeral, where direct immediate family have been excluded from services.
It’s illegal to go to church in some places.
You have to isolate and not see anyone or you might kill Grandma. Now sit tight while Grandma dies miserably and alone unable to see any of her family.
It's such a fucking sick form of gaslighting they do. Unforgivable. This lockdown has been absolutely pointless.
Are you kidding? The media? It’s a very nice sentiment but there’s absolutely no chance those demons are going to help this poor man.
my heart goes out to you brother.
It sure is. Turn to god for comfort. Let him know all that’s on your mind and ask him for comfort for you and for your wife.
I’m so sorry that your tragedy is compounded by political posturing and stupidity of the hospital and medical industry.
WHAT.
THE FUCK.
First people dying alone, now a miscarriage with the father rejected, & also this???
...I am trying not to lose my head.
Blame the administration of the hospital, not the doctors. When I have to tell people they can or can't come in, it's not the doctor I talk to. It's some administrator, sitting at home, while I'm in the hospital with the patients.
I don’t even blame the administration. Their hands are tied by the government
fuck that... go right in
Would be physically prevented.
I have no words for this. This is horrible. I will pray for you.
Then you get arrested and your wife is without you when she needs you most. They know this and that they can get away with it.
Not sure what help I’d be from prison, but I do see your point.
None. That's why you sit and wait. Sometimes we have to appear weak. Make sure you are there when she get out instead of putting her in your position. You don’t want to be sitting in jail knowing they (probably) won’t allow visitors and your wife is waiting outside but can’t come in to see you. I know it’s hard man. You are right to be upset. You are also right to not be violent especially right now.
I get what you’re saying but it’s also a lot of justifying of your oppression. He’s silent today, so is the next guy, and the next. All of the while these women suffer this terrible heartbreak alone. But at least you didn’t ruffle any feathers right?
Then she can take her anger up with the arresters and the hospital.
If you can figure out how to get my wife to channel anger at people other than me (especially when it's 100% my fault), please let me know. I'd pay infinite dollars for that power
unelected police forces were a mistake
"Gotta cuck or you don't get what your rights."
Pathetic people.
Known people who did it in the before Wuhan Coronavirus days because they weren't legally family. Nothing happened. Whether or not the police would take it seriously or not now is likely different, and would vary from state to state and region.
When I went to Thanksgiving at my mom's the cops were much different about Coronavirus than where I live.
Screw you. This guy is not in the right place right now. Don't go suggesting this. Wait until Trump gives the order, then we fight. Nothing personal, but this advice is horrible. This couple wouldn't be able to grieve together if the husband is in jail.
they can't grieve together now
Fuck communists I will never forget this shit.
Stunning case of Alexithymia. Have fun with that.
Gun violence has it's uses
Not worth going to prison
If it starts to become normal for a loved one to break into a hospital things will change.
Is it not?
Then we bust you out.
No steppy on snekky.
damn, sorry man:( I don't know what I would do in this situation but it would probably end with the police.
It would 100%
I’m glad it’s not me, there would be a pile of cops and security guards and some felony charges. Keep strong brother!
They could try!
security would have a word with you
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE AND FUCK COMMUNISTS
Behind the curtain of lost CUCKERY in Canada. We are too far gone.
Canadian also. Praying for you.
Best of luck, brother. We're praying for you and you'll certainly be in my thoughts.
If you're in Toronto I wanna see if I can raise a racket, but I'm typing this in midnight with me going to work tomorrow morning. I dunno if I can get some friends to help out but outside of that, best of luck to you.
May their hellicopter rides be high and their falls be splat.
... in Minecraft, of course.
We moved the party to the Rust server instead
Yes. They kept me and my sister from spending time with our mother on her last moments of life.
They are monsters. But then, leftists are all about control. Millions they have murdered over decades.
I'll pray for you and wife. So sorry for this happening to you.
The cognitive dissonance starts right with their name “liberals” It’s all downhill from there. This is exactly what led me away from being a liberal about five years ago, the cognitive dissonance was destroying my mind and making me depressed. It’s like living every day thinking that the sky is green and it’s your fault. These people are fucking insane and should go to hell, I used to feel sorry for them but quite honestly they should all be lined up and shot. Things have gone too far
Thank you for this comment about your experience. I have a lefty relative and have seen her literally have a nervous breakdown after an afternoon of exchanging differing political views. No arguments at all. Just a conversation. It was amazing to see her slowly become more and more agitated and then a mental breakdown. Ended hospitalized. Of course we were all devastated because this is a person we love. We believe the cognitive dissonance was too much. You are so right about the feeling depressed. I think she does too. It is as if they are through their political beliefs denying themselves the right to be happy.
That’s how you know the ideology is demonic. It’s there to steal people’s joy.
Yup!
If it's possible for you to talk to her, ask her to beg the doctor to approve u to enter. I know someone in a similar situation a few weeks ago and a good doctor literally came down and escorted the father into the hospital past security. Praying for you and your family.
She is not like this, won’t put in an act for these fuxking people. But she won’t forget either. I hope they all burn in hell.
My wife had a miscarriage years before COVID. If it provides you any comfort to know, she was taken out of the room for various scans and tests without me even back then. It fucking sucked and the doctors basically stare at you bc there's not much they can do to "fix" it. I really feel for you both. It was the lowest point in my life. Take care of you and her bc mentally it will fuck you up.
Same here more or less. I broke down into tears when I saw her again, first and last time I’ve cried since I was a wee lad.
Stay strong op and be there for your wife, you’ll see her soon. Praying for you.
Your tears meant more to her than you will ever know. It told and showed her that she wasn't alone.
Individual doctors don't write hospital policy. They can't even discuss it with you. They could lose their ability to have hospital access for their patients.
/r/ifififififokiedokie don't be reckless. You need to be there when your wife comes home. Be there for her. Pray for peace. You will always remember this child, but the grief will ease with time.
I don't think you understood what I was saying. Doesn't matter bc you're just trying to make a point that nobody cares about. "Fix" it as in the baby is dying and they can't do shit. Nobody gives a shit about the doctors in this scenario.
I mean do you want to follow your wife through all the scanning rooms? And how the fuck would you help exactly with your presence?
BLM being allowed to riot in the streets is one thing, but you're in the other extreme of retardation.
Yes. Bc she was having an emotional breakdown from losing our child. And seeing the baby on an ultrasound or rather the "tissue" as they called it, was fucking brutal to have in your face alone with a stranger in the room. Don't be dense. You're making an ass out of yourself.
Don't equate a man wanting to support his wife in one of her most difficult moments with fucking BLM. That comment is so retarded.
The fuxking “tissue” talk was the worst. Dehumanizing bastards.
no you're retarded, you don't realize it is a god damn hospital .
No, you are in fact a retard.
That wasn't what he was saying. Stop being a jackass.
it was exactly what he was saying you fucking imbecile
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK YOU DIRTY COMMIE
lol imbecile, you can't do shit in a hospital apart from getting in the way . get real
you're just as moronic as the leftards and don't caps lock me like a bitch just because i triggered your cognitive dissonance
they will
It's not the doctors decision. It's administration, usually house supervisor at night. During the day, it's probably some MBA who is sitting at home while those of us healthcare workers are there taking care of patients.
Demand you speak with the CEO of the hospital and tell them you're going to sue for emotional damages.
It worked for us. God speed, pede.
This. If masks work, then why can't he go in?
They don't want smart people observing the lack of people in the ER and ICU.
Thats it.
I "got lost" in an ICU two weeks ago. Empty beds. They then told me I couldn't see my family member. I told them I have a Constitutional lawyers on retainer [white lie] and would sue the company for emotional damages if I couldn't see them.
They made "an exception".
They lie to us, lie back. Don't swear, don't lose your cool. Speak to the highest paid asshole in that hospital on site right now.
Absolutely this. Hospital administrators don't want your headache on their watch. So give them the biggest gaping headache you can without going to jail. I'd find everyone in admin and doctors on that ward and tag them all on a LinkedIn post shaming them for this behavior.
Not sure how things work in Canada tho.
The sad thing is this is basic communist society. You must lie & cheat & steal & strongarm others because that is the only way to get your basic human wants & needs--Because there is no common decency where rights are not recognized. This is what my parents & grandparents grew up in.
The USA is already devolving into a communist society & The 'Rona is the catalyst speeding it up. There will only be more of this if we don't fight back for our freedoms, first by every legal means, then by violence if still ignored.
Plenty of people in the ICU and ER and floors I worked on in Alabama. No more COVID ICU beds at the travel assignment I'm currently on. Had to keep an active stroke on the med/surg COVID floor because there were no beds.
This is a good idea. Law suits for years coming
Praying for you and your wife, 'pede.
I tried to comment earlier, my apologies if this is coming through again. This hits close to home for me. I had a miscarriage alone. It was so devastating. My husband was away on travel. This was a few years ago, and although I have been blessed with a son since then, I dearly miss and think about that baby. I believe it was the closest I could ever get to feeling Mary's pain, though it does not even touch what she went through. You now have a treasure up in heaven. The next couple of weeks will be very hard. I am praying for healing for you both now. The pain is hard. It really makes it difficult to stomach the ways of our opposition. God bless you and your wife.
“Treasure up in heaven”
This made me cry.
Matthew 6:19 to 6:20 While it may be a stretch, it saved me.
You will see your child again. When you die, that child will be there to get you.
Hey, just checking in, pede. I have had you and your wife in my heart. I hope that you two are well. I know it's hard to be where you are.
Thank you it’s been a very challenging time, but we are healing. Definitely appreciate the amazing support from everyone here!! Thank you.
Prayers to you and the family.🙏
Praying for you and your wife. Know you are not alone and many couples have gone through this, there is no greater grief than losing a child. Have experienced the same, but could not imagine not being able to be there for your spouse.
Fucking ridiculous. Id be knocking ppl out
You’d think so but in the moment my being there is not as important as her getting help, it’s a time to back down sadly m.
Hope she is ok and sorry for your loss. Stay strong
You're doing the right thing. Lot of people pushing violence, but the last thing your wife needs is her husband in jail right now.
I wouldn't wish the pain you're feeling on a leftist.
Well, you really don't want to be in the treatment room right now and it wouldn't help her either, but not letting you be near and waiting is malpractice imo.
If I were in your wife's position, I'd be extremely disappointed in my husband for not going nuclear on them. I would rather die than back down to these authoritarian fucks, and if they refused entry to my husband I would damn well spit in their faces. My mom was arrested and imprisoned back in the Soviet Union for less, you can't put up with this shit because it WILL eventually get to that point if no one puts a stop to it NOW.
Youre not wrong, but at the same time it’s an emergency and she needed treatment NOW I’m not going to try to be a hero and piss off the very people who need to help her when it’s not even technically their faul personally.
As powerless as this must make you feel- this is the right way to handle this unholy situation. Making sure your wife gets the best care, even though it must be torture. Stay strong Pede. I am praying for you and your wife and the child you have lost. Very sorry.
No, no it's not. Complying like this only empowers them to take away yet more rights. Next thing you know, fathers will be quarantined away from mothers and their babies for months before they're allowed to see them. Are you going to be okay with that then too? Are you naive enough to think it won't happen?
It's not about "heroics," it's about your basic HUMAN RIGHTS which they will have no problem continuing to chip away at unless you do something about it. Don't be surprised when that happens, and don't complain about it as you comply then too because you don't want to raise trouble. You being with your wife and her getting proper medical attention are NOT mutually exclusive and yet the normalization of their authoritarianism is already starting to infiltrate your brain when you allow them to use that as a bargaining chip to make you comply.
This makes my blood boil.
Time to shoot some commies.
so, so sorry for your loss. praying for you and your wife. hopefully you'll be with her soon. yes, these people are fucking sick, and this shit needs to stop.
Omg I am so sorry for you and your wife! Just walk in the hospital...for her!! Its all BS all of it
Oh my. I'm sorry for your loss 😔
This shit is out of control. It's a God damn flu virus. I'm really sorry, man. So sorry. Bless you for staying close (the parking lot) no matter what. You are a good husband.
Focus on your wife pede. We got the line.
I am so sorry. The world right now makes me so angry. We will not forget what they did to us.
I'm sorry for your loss <3
God bless you brother. My wife and I went through a couple of those and they are horrible with out the #plandemic. God is faithful my favorite thing to remember is “God is Never late but Rarely early!”
This is fucking awful
Fucking disgusting i am sorry
Dude, praying for you now... I’m sorry... know that the Lord sees all injustices. It’s small comfort, but it’s true. Hang in there fren
I am raging with you. Fuck this bullshit! I hurt for you and your poor wife.
Sue. Sue them for all they are worth.
Push your way in there.
I’m so sorry. You are a righteous man who knows damn that well when he sees something wrong and speaks his mind. Your wife is lucky to have a husband like you. Keeping you, your wife, and your baby in my prayers. Keep the fire, fren. You may need that later. I know she needs the medical help now but you are a protector. She will need that part of you in the future too. Hang strong and love and prayers to you and your family.
I’m so sorry for you both
I'm so sorry.
Really sorry to hear this - praying for you and your wife. Stay strong
This is awful, made worse by people that are fucking horrible.
I'm so sorry brother.
Holy shit man. My family prays for you and your wife.
I am so sorry to hear this. You must be so heartbroken. Praying for you, your wife, and your entire family.
I'm so sorry, all I can do is pray.
It is hard enough to go through that without the covid restrictions. Youre in my thoughts.
I'm so sorry for your loss pede
I am so sorry that you and your wife are going through this tragedy. God bless you and give you comfort.
Unbelievable!! I am so sorry for your loss. Prayers to you and your wife!
Sorry brother. Prayers for you all
I’m sorry for your loss. Praying for you 🙏🏻
I`m so so very sorry.
Sorry for your lost, pede.
I’m so sorry man. I can’t imagine.
This must be horrific for you. Praying for you and yours.