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JesusWept 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have refused to wear a mask on religious grounds for this exact reason. Women have been forced to cover their faces by many religions, but Jesus set us free from those restrictions. Christian women and men don't have to cover their faces!!! WHO THE SON HAS SET FREE IS FREE INDEED. I will not accept the burden of shame, guilt and silence that comes with putting on a mask. That would be denial of the cross and my faith. I don't deny Jesus, I acknowledge him!

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PocketPosse 5 points ago +5 / -0

We are biologically programmed to adopt fears to keep us safe and even copy them from others. It sometimes creates weird results like mass hysteria. Your family and friends dont feel safe. They will do dumb things until the perceived threat is solved or their perception of it atrophies.

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socrates2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The hardest part is that the fear is inconsistent. The restaurant dining is the perfect example. If they are so fearful why go out to eat at all.

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some_random_dude 3 points ago +3 / -0

The cult of the Branch Covidian is like many other cults. Satan takes many forms in ursurping the masses souls.

Pray this ends shortly after a certain government office is resecured for another four years.

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Counterforce1 3 points ago +4 / -1

We are all of us in the furnace

We will be forged or burned

This is our Abendnego moment.

Do not worship their idols

You are not in the furnace alone

He is with you

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light151 1 point ago +5 / -4

Some people are immunocompromised and need masks. Don't be too dogmatic. There's a balance. Just because a virus is used to control the people doesn't mean it can't hurt some people.

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socrates2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Unless they are wearing a N95 mask its useless. But fine wear one, but so many people that are obviously not still insist on wearing one and forcing others to also.

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light151 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sure. The whole mask issue is really a non-issue. It's been used to divide us unnecessarily. It does reduce aerosolization but its by no means even close to 100% as you noted unless it's an n95. To say it has no effect on spread is not fair based on the data.

To play devil's advocate Taiwan managed to clear out the virus by some very simple steps. Steps which democrats and people in our administration could have effectively put in place. Doctors and healthcare experts wondered why our country was unable to do so. Now we know it's because they wanted to use COVID for their political use.

Taiwan's steps:

  • STOP ALL TRAVEL FROM CHINA
  • Test all travelers into the country, stop travel from high case density nations.
  • Quarantine only those who are sick (NO LOCKDOWN)
  • Contact trace and test everyone who came into contact with quarantined patients (our gov. screwed the pooch on testing not Trump's fault our government's fault)
  • Mandate masks for everyone (reduces spread) - easy with various Asian cultures used to wearing masks due to air pollution from China migrating in all the time in the air
  • Continue these measures for a fixed period of time and lift restrictions asap
  • Businesses did not close, economy only took a hit from travel restrictions.

At this point between march and November
Population: 24 million Maximum cases: high 20s in the entire country . Total deaths: appx 7
Total cases: Appx 600. TOTAL.

For the majority of the country wearing a mask was no longer required until just this month when cases spiked again. And again only in specific locations.

There are ways to REASONABLY address this issue. However our country is so corrupt, I believe they purposely bungled the response and people including Fauci gave FALSE information to Trump. WHO/CDC also were corrupt and compromised giving false info consistently.

The globalists confused our efforts by first saying masks don't work then saying they work then saying they don't work etc. until people didn't know what to believe. It was designed to sow confusion and slow our response. Hence we now think of it as a political issue. It's quite simple we could've controlled this and avoided a lot of pain, inconvenience and heartache. (I am in healthcare)

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socrates2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Im not saying you cant temporarily stop it, but it roars right back. Taiwan is an island nation with small population that is compared to America extremely healthy. Also they have lots of sun tropical island and already have vitamin D counts etc. You simply dont quarantine the healthy. only time in history this has been attempted.

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light151 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed. But we have the most expert medical people in this country and for some reason our government is incapable of basic public health measures. Pretty shady. Basically if you did the opposite of what the CDC and WHO said at the outset of this pandemic we would be in a much better spot. People get it right that this is a manufactured crisis but wearing masks isn't the issue. That's my point. The contention over masks is just a symptom of a most sinister sort of manipulation.

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socrates2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its not about the masks its about the shutdowns, I think when people talk about masks its about the shutdowns. This is a mortality rate of less than a fraction of a percent. With vaccines and treatment options that are 90% effective. If you even catch it.

The testing companies are making a fortune, gov workers all basically on a year long vacation. Small businesses the middle class are devastated.

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light151 1 point ago +1 / -0

Completely agree! And most of these Asian countries completely avoided any shutdowns simply by having short-term mask policies and targeted testing.

Shutdowns are completely unnecessary and counter productive. It weakened us economically and didn't really flatten any curves.

I've always been a proponent of the model where everyone goes about daily life, but maybe for a short period of time maybe even up to a couple months, everyone wears masks to reduce spread so that the ICU beds are not over-run. Would've saved our economy and left our freedoms pretty much intact.

Instead here we are, election fraud, people limited from gathering (unless it's left-wing approved) etc. (I still think wearing a mask in large gatherings in cities is wise, unfortunately have treated too many COVID patients in the ICU). The virus is real and can be deadly. But as Trump says THE CURE CANNOT BE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.

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socrates2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The icu beds were never overrun. Maybe for a week time period and most of it was panic driven. If masks work then the people that are weak should wear them we all dont need to. If lockdowns work what happened because we locked down for way more than two weeks.

Wearing masks is an exercise in futility. You might as well wear a helmet cause you might trip walking. Bring back sports, enough with asking kids to wear masks in class all day even when outdoors. This might be the stupidest point in human history. A drummed up version of a seasonal flu and USA is forever changed. 1/3 of businesses closed.

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1984patriot -2 points ago +1 / -3

"real people of faith" - that's called gate keeping - don't do that

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socrates2 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not a religious person. Never studied a formal religion at all. Typical overeducated family with little religion. I am just saying that if someone is truly religious why have such a ridiculous fear of the unknown.

I see this mask thing as a practice and custom of a leftist religion.