When asked "What would Jesus do?", it is good to remember that beating fraudsters with a horsewhip and chasing them out of a church is well within the realm of possibility.
Too many clergy are teaching "hot tub Christianity" which is "Try to be like Jesus, but it's okay if you're not because He loves you anyway. So don't worry if you sin; I mean it's not like we're doing full blown old testament sinning or anything. Now come back next Sunday for another motivational!"
Things may not end well for people who practice that.
Why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' but not do what I say?
-- Luke 6:46
Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!
Awesome point. I think the "great falling away" talked about in Revelation is actually churches departing from the faith. I used to think it would be people leaving church, but based on what's happening, I changed my view. We stopped going & started just doing Bible study at home, reading pastors from the 1600s-1800s, and listening online to pastors who still teach Bible (which are far & few between). We're surrounded by churches who teach false doctrine. They've abandoned the Bible.
I see this a lot in western descendant (Catholic and the shitzillion Protestant offshoots) Christianity and it's what turned me towards Orthodoxy
A rigid and well practiced tradition that has held steady for 2000 years. Also there's no diddling because priests are allowed to get married so there's no real harboring of perverts going on. That alone is what piqued my interest but once I got involved and saw that even the culture was superior in its adamant rejection of new age "progressive" mindrot (the current alleged Pope is a legitimate fucking communist) I knew that I could never go back
Find a teaching church and pray in closets. Those who pray on street corners have their reward i say to you.
Keep reading the gospel. I tell myself i work forGod and am doing my bezt to be his hands here.
As much as I dislike Christianity, I honestly get offended by the "God Is Love" Jesus these types push. It's like watching one of those parents who won't discipline their kids or teach them personal responsibility because it's not "feel good" stuff. Their entire religion's about how God wants you on his team, but he'll do awful stuff if that's what it takes to make you act right. I guess that doesn't pay, though.
Sometimes it really just takes a bit of changing perspective to help a lot of things click, here's an example
For many years of my life I didn't like the phrase "God-fearing" because I took it literally as in "oh we have to do this and that or God will smite us and we will suffer immensely". What changed my perspective interestingly enough is when I watched the movie Malcolm X with Denzel Washington. One point in the movie he describes his fear of his mentor Elijah Mohammed and the fear was based entirely in seeing him as a father figure and being terrified of disappointing him.
Then I realized that's what God-fearing actually means. You're terrified of disappointing Him because he is your Father. He is the Father of all. In the same way I know that I wouldn't be able to look my own earthly father in the eye if I had done something I know I shouldn't have done and disappointed him, so too I feel the same way in disappointing the Heavenly Father.
God is capable of both wrath and love in the same way our own fathers are capable of the same. Getting spanked as a child for whatever misbehavior doesn't mean your father doesn't love you. As you get older you realize you don't fear the pain of the spanking as much as you fear disappointing your father with misbehavior and forcing him to have to spank you to teach you the difference between right and wrong.
So you're right in the sense of what you brought up, and sometimes all it takes is a changing perspective to bring that home. Would you desecrate your earthly father's home and disgrace him with misbehavior and then say "of course he will forgive me, he loves me"? Someone who would do that with no remorse is just a bad person, and it's the same with our relationship with God. Hopefully that rambling nonsense made sense to somebody.
I agree... There is certainly a different spirit and motion in the air that wasn't here last year, or, last year it was in the shadows and now it has had light shown upon it.
I'm sure these things are cyclical, but I certainly feel something different spiritually, even though my personal beliefs and faith have stayed the same.
The evil is just too obvious now, and I think it's so obvious that it drives men to see the light.
It's like being on a fishing boat. 2019 the waters were calm some people didn't realize that they were even in a fishing boat. 20/20 the waves have come crashing jostling the fishing boot and now some of those people can see that they are in fact in a fishing boat.
Think of the fishing boat as people's perception of the bible, God, and faith.
The sin I'm struggling to control now is rage. I see all of this blatant injustice and it makes my blood boil. I want to love my neighbor, but what if my neighbor celebrates evil and call it good? It is a thing I don't yet know how to deal with. I pray for wisdom and love.
Jesus Christ looked upon them with anger yet did not sin. Righteous anger is ok.
Also, As much as liveth in you live peaceably with all men. I have about reached my capacity.
There are no wimps for Jesus. Just mighty men and women of God operating the Christ in them bringing light to the world. WE WILL BE DELIVERED.
You should read the book “Infiltration”. It’s crazy how communists took over the Catholic Church. Ffs, did you know the pope that ushered in Vatican II was an apprentice of Saul Alinsky?! He went from Italy to Chicago to study with him!!!
Vatican II is weird tbh.The actual documents are so lackadaisical and worthless dogmatically that it isn't even worth getting angry about especially since it wasn't even a proper ecumenical council(guitar masses are still bad tho).The so-called "spirit of Vatican II" that modernists use to justify their heresy is another matter entirely.Still,I'd argue that things have been worse before and the church will more than likely get past this.
95 Theses did that. Vatican II was to try to get some of the people (money) back. I would argue that what they're doing now could arguably be called Vatican III, and they're doing it for the same reasons. They've been destroyed for a long time.
You should read the book “Infiltration”. It’s crazy how communists took over the Catholic Church. Ffs, did you know the pope that ushered in Vatican II was an apprentice of Saul Alinsky?! He went from Italy to Chicago to study with him!!!
"cLoSe YoUr BiBLeS aNd LiStEn tO mE TeLL yOu WhY aBoRtiOn DoEsN't MaTtEr!!"
"i'M a BiG bOnEd 42 YO A&F mOdEl, LoOK aT mY sKinNy jEaNs AnD V-NeCk"
"PuLpITs aRe FoR rELiGiOuS pEoPLe, I'm DrInKiNg sTaRbUcKs aT A tALL CaFé tAbLe bEcAuSe wE're hAvInG a CaSual sPiRiTuaL eNcOuNtEr"
"JeSuS LeAdS bY sErViNg, mEn ShOuLd Be SeRvAnT LeAdErS tHaTs HoW yOu LeAd"
"LoOk aT dEbOrAH, sHe LeAdS mEn, wOmEn NeEd pOwEr, aUtHoRiTy iS hOw WoMeN LeAd"
I could go on but I'm sick of typing like spongebob.
It's no wonder the United States is so screwed up. We're expecting the population to rise up higher than the churches and this is the kind of crap that they get fed when they actually go to church.
I was always fond of the quote "Do not mistake my generosity for weakness."
According to scripture, King Jesus is coming back to rapture the church (all the Christians around the world) up into heaven. Then after seven years He's coming back down with a sword coming from his mouth and an army of angels to utterly destroy the mortal armies massed against Israel, and then ruling in Israel with an iron rod for a thousand years.
Jesus did not instruct the un-biblical libtards to turn the other cheek. He instructed his followers to turn the other cheek.
He said turn the other cheek because in those times you could sue for damages if someone slapped you, and he recommended you let them slap you twice so that you can sue them for twice as much.
Honestly, pretty good fit for right now. They've slapped we the people across the face, and we have to take a few more slaps without doing anything stupid before justice catches up with them. Over half way there!
Worth consideration is the work of Retired NATO/ Italian Admiral Flavio Barbiero. He integrates the work of Archaeologists in Italy into an understanding of Early Christianity being a Mind Control Cult, engineered by conquered Jewish High Priests, who were brought back to Rome by Titus Flavius, in a deal they cut to make him Emperor while sparing their lives. He took them as Political Advisors, and they doled him the riches necessary to buy his way to becoming Emperor, through the various hoards of the Jewish Treasury which they had buried and hidden all over Judea, prior to the Roman Invasion, and the destruction of the 2nd temple.
His Scholarship is outstanding in documenting the creation of the Cult of Mithras, and how it targeted the Praetorian Guard, which immediately led to assassinations in the Senate, and the eventual takeover of the Roman Legions as the Cult of Mithras, became the Cult of Sol Invictus, which became the Roman Catholic Church. When the work of other Scholars around the Cult of Mithras is taken into account, we find that it was an entheogenic mushroom mind control cult. Perfect for corrupting the Elite Sons of Rome. They targeted the control structure, and eventually destroyed Rome. They used Christianity to conquer the minds of Europa, and it's inhabitants. Worth the read, and the deep dive.
"The Secret Society of Moses"- By Flavio Barbiero (look it up, any link which gets posted has been reported as spam. I wonder who's doing that?)
Absolutely a must read for Pedes who want to get at the roots of the systemic weakness like "Turn the other cheek" faggotry and other aspects of mind control which make adherents of Christianity inherently weak, and open to being invaded and conquered. Like the Scofield Bible being produced by Zionists, to manipulate Christians into being vassals of Zionist Power, and removing criticism of Jewish Actions against the rest of the world, because "Muh Chosen", and "Same God" beliefs . Deep history, requires deep research, leading to deeper consideration.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Off topic but why in the hell do people who claim to be "anti-racist" use terms like "brown people", I've never heard a normal person who has his/her head on straight use such ridiculous terms to describe other races. Just seems a little counter productive.
Yeah, its stupid because it says every man gave according to his believing, not according to a mandated law. Also God loves a cheerful giver. He hates thrives like the government shills.
Not just tossing bankers. These merchants etc were not supposed to be doing business in the temple at all. Who let them set up shop there? Maybe the priests or doorkeepers? For a little kickback maybe? Jesus called it out in a big way and yeah after that they were really out to get Him. Maybe "follow the money" is as old as civilization itself.
A Jew that has renounced God is more terrifying than a Gentile that does not know or has renounced God.
That's the issue. It's not that all Jews are evil. It's just that the evil ones are super evil because of their lineage. Satan hates Jews more than any other race of humans, in there for extra targets them for corruption. Jews are also more willing to completely believe everything in the religious texts, and so when they sell their soul to the devil, it's real real.
It's like the difference between street magicians and wizards like Merlin. If a gentile renounces God they're just a lame street magician who doesn't have real magic. When a Jew does it they are like Merlin and can wield lightning.
however it's easy to fall into the trap and let Satan convince you that all Jews are evil because he hates them so much, Satan wants us to kill all of the Jews, and we should never entertain him. We should, however, take care of the evil ones like Soros and Bloomberg and the Rothschild's and others, but not because they are Jew, but because they are evil.
The myth that Jesus was a pussy is leftist propaganda. He was (and is) power incarnate, and his meekness was that of strength under control, not weakness. The men in the church, what few that remain, would do well to remember that.
It's worth a reminder that around the same time he chased the cheats and leeches out of the Temple, he cursed a fig tree to wither because it was a good-for-nothing waste of air. The RINOs need that reminder especially.
That's pretty much where I'm at. He wouldn't lash out unjustly, but would certainly experience the anger and rage. So sit down and weave a whip to cool down before going and flipping tables.
He also fashioned the entire universe from nothing, so I guarantee that whip was a piece of art, a weapon of divine retribution.
Some of the more art-inclined money changers probably admired it and wondered how much money they could get for it just before it wrapped around their face.
You can make a whip in a few minutes. I can twist grass into a rope thing in a few minutes. Never smacked anyone with it but I'm sure it would hurt just as much. Doesn't have to last a whole cattle drive, just long enough to clear the temple.
Jesse Lee Peterson says a real man does not anger. He says in this situation Jesus was displaying discernment, not anger. Any Christian Pedes have a commentary on that idea?
Righteous Anger, one might say, is different than classic or deranged anger. In so much as it has authentic care and love behind the upset feelings, will spur the emotional to respond to the injustice. Much different than anger for anger sake or self aggrandizement. TDS for example would be a righteous anger if President Trump was legitimately a Nazi, but since he isn’t, it’s just deranged anger. No basis on reality for the anger like classic, just manipulation control. Dangerous anger it has become.
I’m not shilling him, I’m genuinely curious as I have been listening to him a lot lately, and one of the main things he talks about is how after we have fully forgiven and come back to the father, we are not ever angry again, which conflicts with this story of Jesus in the temple, as some people have pointed out to him in the past, to which he responds “it was discernment not anger”.
There’s so many scams now it’s hard to not get caught up in a couple of them. I know several based ass people (usually older) that are the same way with the masks.
If they counted annual flu deaths the same way they count COLD-19 deaths, the flu would look way more lethal than it is. Dying with the corona cold counts as dying of it, even when the person obviously died of something else like a broken neck or complications of cancer.
And do not forget God Turned a whole wicked city into a salt lick and a wife that turned back to look.. And Flooded the world killed off almost everything.
The moral of the story. Piss God off you will regret it.
Let us also not forget, God is just and loving. God warned for 120 years before the flood and warned Lot and his wife to leave town. This is the time of warning for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
After that wrath. Praise God for His Just Righteous Vengeance!
I mean to be fair, if there was a vapor deposition of super heated salt going onto someone’s face and crusting over, it certainly would look like someone was turning into salt to someone living 3,700 years ago
“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
These are based as fuck. I personally need to work on that first one and last one. I was always a weak kneed faggot when people asked me about faith as a kid.
Come as you are. Nobody here is perfect. Today is a good day to be saved. And find a good based church. I'd suggest something like Southern Baptist or if you want to go on the wilder side, something more charismatic.
I read these verses as: God first, family and county next. Losing some commie family members or friends while standing up for righteousness and love is par for the course. There is peace and Joy in God’s will and communion with Him and His saints. It hurts to lose those we love in the world, but we can’t stop fighting and preaching the truth for the approval of those friends and family. If we do we lose ourselves and any chance we had of bringing our family and friends to the Joy of Christ with us. God sent His son to be Sin for us so that we could be with Him. He is coming back for us, any day now. Repent
Amen. As Christians, our politics and all relations should be driven and informed by Godly Bible-based values and motivations. I too have lost relationships with people professing to be Christian but when pressed decided to support a baby-killing corrupt pedo defender and who drank the left's koolade. This is not a hard decision to make, and is a litmus test on who they are behind the facade. So I toughen up and brush off my feet and move on.
It is not for us to sort the wheat from the chaff, but we are called to condemn sin where we see it and not hang out with fools and murders. Hard when those fools are family. It is nice to know the truth about their outlooks so I don’t invest time with someone who’s morals won’t appreciate, understand or reciprocate my efforts at agape love.
One should read the parable of the ten minas and ask themselves if they are doing enough to escape what judgement will come at the end of time. Luke 19:11-26.
Media & big tech are the #1 enemies. They're curating ALL information available to the public in order to assist foreign interests in taking over this country. We have to get a handle on this.
Dam right!!! God was NEVER against killing every man woman and child or living thing in a evil village.... He told Moses to do it, Abraham, he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah .... Christians have turned into begging for mercy pussies!!! God would be ashamed because God only helps those who help themselves!! I believe that's in the Bible too!! .... So when a bunch of evil BLM supporters or useful idiots come to your church to burn it down or beat your parishioners then you should FIGHT THE FUCK BACK!!!! Beat their assess!!!!... In the name of God and fight FOR HIM!!!... Nothing is coming out of the sky to save you!! He gave you the tools to defend YOURSELF!!! Stop expecting him to do everything FOR YOU!!!
Therein lies the fundamental weakness plaguing our society.
"Even Jesus"....
You know it's funny how the entire US Constitution is based on God yet we are still not framing Jesus in the light He deserves. Jesus is the reason for the constitution!
...Jesus created the universe, is undefeated in war, has waged war on His enemies both physically and spiritually, has suffered immensely to secure his elect and has promised that those who do not obey him will receive his full, eternal WRATH. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, tore down Pharaoh, tore down Caesar. Sent one of his angels to singlehandedly destroy an entire army. But "even Jesus"...
"Even Jesus".
If only we believed in a God that always fights and wins, because Jesus is POWER. But we still keep thinking Jesus was weak when he was meek, that he was ever shy to confront evil when he was completely without Sin and totally conquered death.
We still keep this Hollywood image of a weak (not meek) Jesus. Acting surprised when he'd exert his authority and power.
Instead of what many are doing now and will do (which is nothing)...Jesus and his disciples were directly engaging the leaders of the time. Directly requesting time with Caesar. Directly risking imprisonment and torture to fulfil the mission. Directly spending time in dungeons, seeing their friends crucified. Directly stepping out in front of the entire known world to contradict the narrative.
I believe it was 11 out of 12 disciples who died on the mission to promote the name of Christ. Those aren't rookie numbers from an "even me" kind of God. Those are numbers from a completely fearless warrior who inspired that level of commitment in his followers.
They were buying and selling in the temple, defiling it in the eyes of the Lord. This nation was consecrated as to the Lord and now these brood of vipers are looking to defile this land with communism. Not on our watch!
OP, I’m going to create an account for my dead grandfather to upvote you, because this post deserves more than one upvote per person. You know what? I’m also going to message the MODS, because my and my grandfather’s upvotes need to count as 130%. Because i want them to.
In all seriousness, holy pretzels, you make a SALIENT POINT, thanks.
Look, Jesus was badass wherever he went. He was always telling people they were the snakes and liars, pointed out their hypocrisy, and told them to do the right thing. I don't recognize the Jesus the media portray.
Meh, i've also seen leftists use this to justify the riots and looting. i don't like it. The fact is the temple was his house and he had every right to kick them off his property. He didn't get this way with corruption in other places.
He mostly spoke out against the corruption of the establishment...kind of like what trump is doing now.
For me it comes down to the version of anger portrayed. A summary look and seeing a story through my human eyes I can make Jesus have my anger and therefore feel justified having whatever horrible anger I decide is deserving. Very communist of them. I dislike the way they use this verse but it shows who they are quite clearly. They don’t read the Bible for context, just ammunition for their sin. Satin used Bible verses against Jesus, even the devil knows the Bible.
As stated early, here for your convenience:
Righteous Anger, one might say, is different than classic or deranged anger. In so much as it has authentic care and love behind the upset feelings, will spur the emotional to respond to the injustice. Much different than anger for anger sake or self aggrandizement. TDS for example would be a righteous anger if President Trump was legitimately a Nazi, but since he isn’t, it’s just deranged anger. No basis on reality for the anger like classic, just manipulation control. Dangerous anger it has become.
Sure. But i don't think we need to use Jesus here to justify ourselves because this was an exception of throwing the crooks off of his property. Jesus was quite peaceful to the corrupted individuals that killed him. There are other verses we can use.
Yep.
When asked "What would Jesus do?", it is good to remember that beating fraudsters with a horsewhip and chasing them out of a church is well within the realm of possibility.
"JeSuS wAs a SoCiALiST, hE GaVe BrOwN PeOpLe StuFF" - every faggot commie newage 'pastor'.
Lots of clergy do not know their bible. Bad theology is everywhere.
"Those who work their land will have abundant food, but those who chase fantasies have no sense." - Proverbs 12:11
Too many clergy are teaching "hot tub Christianity" which is "Try to be like Jesus, but it's okay if you're not because He loves you anyway. So don't worry if you sin; I mean it's not like we're doing full blown old testament sinning or anything. Now come back next Sunday for another motivational!"
Things may not end well for people who practice that.
-- Luke 6:46
-- Matthew 7:21-23
That's why I don't go to church anymore. (I hope a pastor reads this)
The whole 'boyfriend Jesus' BS that goes on is mind-boggling.
He didn't tell the woman to "go and try do your best and you'll be fine. I just want you to be happy". He told her to "sin no more".
Awesome point. I think the "great falling away" talked about in Revelation is actually churches departing from the faith. I used to think it would be people leaving church, but based on what's happening, I changed my view. We stopped going & started just doing Bible study at home, reading pastors from the 1600s-1800s, and listening online to pastors who still teach Bible (which are far & few between). We're surrounded by churches who teach false doctrine. They've abandoned the Bible.
I see this a lot in western descendant (Catholic and the shitzillion Protestant offshoots) Christianity and it's what turned me towards Orthodoxy
A rigid and well practiced tradition that has held steady for 2000 years. Also there's no diddling because priests are allowed to get married so there's no real harboring of perverts going on. That alone is what piqued my interest but once I got involved and saw that even the culture was superior in its adamant rejection of new age "progressive" mindrot (the current alleged Pope is a legitimate fucking communist) I knew that I could never go back
Sometimes the old ways are best.
Find a teaching church and pray in closets. Those who pray on street corners have their reward i say to you. Keep reading the gospel. I tell myself i work forGod and am doing my bezt to be his hands here.
As much as I dislike Christianity, I honestly get offended by the "God Is Love" Jesus these types push. It's like watching one of those parents who won't discipline their kids or teach them personal responsibility because it's not "feel good" stuff. Their entire religion's about how God wants you on his team, but he'll do awful stuff if that's what it takes to make you act right. I guess that doesn't pay, though.
Sometimes it really just takes a bit of changing perspective to help a lot of things click, here's an example
For many years of my life I didn't like the phrase "God-fearing" because I took it literally as in "oh we have to do this and that or God will smite us and we will suffer immensely". What changed my perspective interestingly enough is when I watched the movie Malcolm X with Denzel Washington. One point in the movie he describes his fear of his mentor Elijah Mohammed and the fear was based entirely in seeing him as a father figure and being terrified of disappointing him.
Then I realized that's what God-fearing actually means. You're terrified of disappointing Him because he is your Father. He is the Father of all. In the same way I know that I wouldn't be able to look my own earthly father in the eye if I had done something I know I shouldn't have done and disappointed him, so too I feel the same way in disappointing the Heavenly Father.
God is capable of both wrath and love in the same way our own fathers are capable of the same. Getting spanked as a child for whatever misbehavior doesn't mean your father doesn't love you. As you get older you realize you don't fear the pain of the spanking as much as you fear disappointing your father with misbehavior and forcing him to have to spank you to teach you the difference between right and wrong.
So you're right in the sense of what you brought up, and sometimes all it takes is a changing perspective to bring that home. Would you desecrate your earthly father's home and disgrace him with misbehavior and then say "of course he will forgive me, he loves me"? Someone who would do that with no remorse is just a bad person, and it's the same with our relationship with God. Hopefully that rambling nonsense made sense to somebody.
You get it. Doing our best for our Father. Amazing grace,forgiveness and forgiving. Freedom
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It made sense before, too. You probably just weren't paying as much attention.
I agree... There is certainly a different spirit and motion in the air that wasn't here last year, or, last year it was in the shadows and now it has had light shown upon it.
I'm sure these things are cyclical, but I certainly feel something different spiritually, even though my personal beliefs and faith have stayed the same.
The evil is just too obvious now, and I think it's so obvious that it drives men to see the light.
It's like being on a fishing boat. 2019 the waters were calm some people didn't realize that they were even in a fishing boat. 20/20 the waves have come crashing jostling the fishing boot and now some of those people can see that they are in fact in a fishing boat.
Think of the fishing boat as people's perception of the bible, God, and faith.
Preach it, brother Kek.
The sin I'm struggling to control now is rage. I see all of this blatant injustice and it makes my blood boil. I want to love my neighbor, but what if my neighbor celebrates evil and call it good? It is a thing I don't yet know how to deal with. I pray for wisdom and love.
Jesus Christ looked upon them with anger yet did not sin. Righteous anger is ok.
Also, As much as liveth in you live peaceably with all men. I have about reached my capacity.
There are no wimps for Jesus. Just mighty men and women of God operating the Christ in them bringing light to the world. WE WILL BE DELIVERED.
I too struggle, but then I remember how I voted for Romney and see how far I have come, As Jesus said, "Love your enemies"
Vatican II destroyed the Catholic Church, Change My Mind.
Catholic here. Fully agree.
You should read the book “Infiltration”. It’s crazy how communists took over the Catholic Church. Ffs, did you know the pope that ushered in Vatican II was an apprentice of Saul Alinsky?! He went from Italy to Chicago to study with him!!!
What!?!
Vatican II is weird tbh.The actual documents are so lackadaisical and worthless dogmatically that it isn't even worth getting angry about especially since it wasn't even a proper ecumenical council(guitar masses are still bad tho).The so-called "spirit of Vatican II" that modernists use to justify their heresy is another matter entirely.Still,I'd argue that things have been worse before and the church will more than likely get past this.
With the current Pope, things seem to have only gotten far far worse since Vatican II, so I’m not sure about “getting past it”.
You should read “Infiltration”. It discusses the complete communist/satanic takeover of the Catholic Church.
95 Theses did that. Vatican II was to try to get some of the people (money) back. I would argue that what they're doing now could arguably be called Vatican III, and they're doing it for the same reasons. They've been destroyed for a long time.
95 Theses did no such thing, and the Pope admired Luther
The work of a Catholic Augustinian monk, let's not forget.
Or conveniently ignore.
True, my point is that lutheranism and then all later protestant, and then baptist etc can trace to that moment.
Makes sense to me. The current Pope is clearly a minion of Satan.
You should read the book “Infiltration”. It’s crazy how communists took over the Catholic Church. Ffs, did you know the pope that ushered in Vatican II was an apprentice of Saul Alinsky?! He went from Italy to Chicago to study with him!!!
It surprised me but he’s actually supporting Trump right now.
Similar. I responded by becoming a Protestant, albeit I didn't have the stones to hammer 95 theses to their door on my way out.
Did you ever get a handjob from a nun?
"wE nEeD tO hAvE a CoNvErSaTiOn"
"LeT mE uNpAcK tHiS fOr YoU"
"cLoSe YoUr BiBLeS aNd LiStEn tO mE TeLL yOu WhY aBoRtiOn DoEsN't MaTtEr!!"
"i'M a BiG bOnEd 42 YO A&F mOdEl, LoOK aT mY sKinNy jEaNs AnD V-NeCk"
"PuLpITs aRe FoR rELiGiOuS pEoPLe, I'm DrInKiNg sTaRbUcKs aT A tALL CaFé tAbLe bEcAuSe wE're hAvInG a CaSual sPiRiTuaL eNcOuNtEr"
"JeSuS LeAdS bY sErViNg, mEn ShOuLd Be SeRvAnT LeAdErS tHaTs HoW yOu LeAd"
"LoOk aT dEbOrAH, sHe LeAdS mEn, wOmEn NeEd pOwEr, aUtHoRiTy iS hOw WoMeN LeAd"
I could go on but I'm sick of typing like spongebob.
It's no wonder the United States is so screwed up. We're expecting the population to rise up higher than the churches and this is the kind of crap that they get fed when they actually go to church.
I was always fond of the quote "Do not mistake my generosity for weakness."
According to scripture, King Jesus is coming back to rapture the church (all the Christians around the world) up into heaven. Then after seven years He's coming back down with a sword coming from his mouth and an army of angels to utterly destroy the mortal armies massed against Israel, and then ruling in Israel with an iron rod for a thousand years.
There are not 2 second comings. Where do you get this from Scripture, that Christians will be taken out before the tribulation?
I laughed. This is so spot on.
Jesus also instructed libtards to turn the other cheek for us, no matter how bad the ball bat hurts.
Jesus did not instruct the un-biblical libtards to turn the other cheek. He instructed his followers to turn the other cheek.
He said turn the other cheek because in those times you could sue for damages if someone slapped you, and he recommended you let them slap you twice so that you can sue them for twice as much.
Jesus was the original 4D chess master.
lol He did, however, have a sense of humor.
...and I'm not your down-voter, by the way. Thumbs up!
Honestly, pretty good fit for right now. They've slapped we the people across the face, and we have to take a few more slaps without doing anything stupid before justice catches up with them. Over half way there!
Worth consideration is the work of Retired NATO/ Italian Admiral Flavio Barbiero. He integrates the work of Archaeologists in Italy into an understanding of Early Christianity being a Mind Control Cult, engineered by conquered Jewish High Priests, who were brought back to Rome by Titus Flavius, in a deal they cut to make him Emperor while sparing their lives. He took them as Political Advisors, and they doled him the riches necessary to buy his way to becoming Emperor, through the various hoards of the Jewish Treasury which they had buried and hidden all over Judea, prior to the Roman Invasion, and the destruction of the 2nd temple.
His Scholarship is outstanding in documenting the creation of the Cult of Mithras, and how it targeted the Praetorian Guard, which immediately led to assassinations in the Senate, and the eventual takeover of the Roman Legions as the Cult of Mithras, became the Cult of Sol Invictus, which became the Roman Catholic Church. When the work of other Scholars around the Cult of Mithras is taken into account, we find that it was an entheogenic mushroom mind control cult. Perfect for corrupting the Elite Sons of Rome. They targeted the control structure, and eventually destroyed Rome. They used Christianity to conquer the minds of Europa, and it's inhabitants. Worth the read, and the deep dive.
"The Secret Society of Moses"- By Flavio Barbiero (look it up, any link which gets posted has been reported as spam. I wonder who's doing that?)
Absolutely a must read for Pedes who want to get at the roots of the systemic weakness like "Turn the other cheek" faggotry and other aspects of mind control which make adherents of Christianity inherently weak, and open to being invaded and conquered. Like the Scofield Bible being produced by Zionists, to manipulate Christians into being vassals of Zionist Power, and removing criticism of Jewish Actions against the rest of the world, because "Muh Chosen", and "Same God" beliefs . Deep history, requires deep research, leading to deeper consideration.
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Off topic but why in the hell do people who claim to be "anti-racist" use terms like "brown people", I've never heard a normal person who has his/her head on straight use such ridiculous terms to describe other races. Just seems a little counter productive.
Because they're racists.
Their entire worldview revolves around race, the same way a Neo-Nazi's does.
They are racists.
Yeah. Because blacks never call Caucasians ‘white people.’
Yeah, its stupid because it says every man gave according to his believing, not according to a mandated law. Also God loves a cheerful giver. He hates thrives like the government shills.
Gonna be disappointed when you find out who created what would jesus do =(
Well aware, thanks; original preacher, Charles M. Sheldon, was a socialist. That in of itself does not make the humor any less amusing.
Thank you also for presuming what I do and don't know.
Thank you also for sharing the info yourself, I'm sure others would've found it enlightening.
Wow thanks pedes! Did not know the origin of WWJD and now I know why it's pushed so hard. Come to think of it, I see more of that than John3:16.
Someone’s a little testy!!
didnt need to be an ass about it. but ok
Neither did you lol
Yikes! Way to kill 'em with kindness.
And he actually took the time to braid the whip himself before his rampage. It was truly biblical.
I heard that Jesus actually made a cord of nine tails (basically a whip with spikes on the tips) and used that for smashing the tables.
bUt JeSuS wAs A pAcIfIsT
Not just tossing bankers. These merchants etc were not supposed to be doing business in the temple at all. Who let them set up shop there? Maybe the priests or doorkeepers? For a little kickback maybe? Jesus called it out in a big way and yeah after that they were really out to get Him. Maybe "follow the money" is as old as civilization itself.
A Jew that has renounced God is more terrifying than a Gentile that does not know or has renounced God.
That's the issue. It's not that all Jews are evil. It's just that the evil ones are super evil because of their lineage. Satan hates Jews more than any other race of humans, in there for extra targets them for corruption. Jews are also more willing to completely believe everything in the religious texts, and so when they sell their soul to the devil, it's real real.
It's like the difference between street magicians and wizards like Merlin. If a gentile renounces God they're just a lame street magician who doesn't have real magic. When a Jew does it they are like Merlin and can wield lightning.
however it's easy to fall into the trap and let Satan convince you that all Jews are evil because he hates them so much, Satan wants us to kill all of the Jews, and we should never entertain him. We should, however, take care of the evil ones like Soros and Bloomberg and the Rothschild's and others, but not because they are Jew, but because they are evil.
This applies to Christians in church as well. Satan targets the churches for more bang for his buck.
oh and I got banned on a sister .win site for saying exactly what you posted lol, mod is either one of (((them))) or controlled opposition,
Jewish elite
Jesus gave us helo squadrons for this purpose. It would be sinful to waste them!
Wow, anti-Semitic much?!??
“Moshe come shut this goy down”
It’s only anti Semitic if you believe all bankers are Jews. Stop seeing race in everything and get over yourself.
Jew is not a race.
That is what they say.they also say Jews are a race.
was sarcasm in this case
The wow comment was sarcasm. Ahh the glories is the internet. I like the /s or odd capitalizing to help get the point across clearly.
Down with the Fed reserve! ;)
Based Jesus Christ.
The myth that Jesus was a pussy is leftist propaganda. He was (and is) power incarnate, and his meekness was that of strength under control, not weakness. The men in the church, what few that remain, would do well to remember that.
Speak softly and swing your big dick. Yeah, that's it.
Thank you for saying this
It's worth a reminder that around the same time he chased the cheats and leeches out of the Temple, he cursed a fig tree to wither because it was a good-for-nothing waste of air. The RINOs need that reminder especially.
Instananeous water to wine, no problem. 10 minute whip? Inconceivable.
Says he fashioned a whip. That seems to indicate He did it like everyone else.
Dude walked thousands of miles, went hungry, tired, exhausted. I don't think he blinked the whip into existence.
I believe he spent the time fashioning the whip. Used that time to calm the fuck down so he didn't beat them to death.
Or so he would only use the whip instead of turning them into little piles of ash in his anger.
That's pretty much where I'm at. He wouldn't lash out unjustly, but would certainly experience the anger and rage. So sit down and weave a whip to cool down before going and flipping tables.
He also fashioned the entire universe from nothing, so I guarantee that whip was a piece of art, a weapon of divine retribution.
Some of the more art-inclined money changers probably admired it and wondered how much money they could get for it just before it wrapped around their face.
Jesus wasn't going around summoning weapons!
Water to wine was to help the people eat and to give faith like he did by multiplying the fishes.
So i think it makes sense that he build it.
You can make a whip in a few minutes. I can twist grass into a rope thing in a few minutes. Never smacked anyone with it but I'm sure it would hurt just as much. Doesn't have to last a whole cattle drive, just long enough to clear the temple.
Jesse Lee Peterson says a real man does not anger. He says in this situation Jesus was displaying discernment, not anger. Any Christian Pedes have a commentary on that idea?
I think there's a very important distinction between plain old anger and actual righteous fury.
Copped for your convenience;
Righteous Anger, one might say, is different than classic or deranged anger. In so much as it has authentic care and love behind the upset feelings, will spur the emotional to respond to the injustice. Much different than anger for anger sake or self aggrandizement. TDS for example would be a righteous anger if President Trump was legitimately a Nazi, but since he isn’t, it’s just deranged anger. No basis on reality for the anger like classic, just manipulation control. Dangerous anger it has become.
Stop shilling this dude. Once is an honest question, but you've name-dropped him half a dozen times. Chill.
I’m not shilling him, I’m genuinely curious as I have been listening to him a lot lately, and one of the main things he talks about is how after we have fully forgiven and come back to the father, we are not ever angry again, which conflicts with this story of Jesus in the temple, as some people have pointed out to him in the past, to which he responds “it was discernment not anger”.
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There’s so many scams now it’s hard to not get caught up in a couple of them. I know several based ass people (usually older) that are the same way with the masks.
Kung Flu was at 266k deaths yesterday, probably leveled off for the year. That’s not even a bad regular Influenza year.
Oh, we're using those made up numbers still? I thought for sure people were dying of other stuff by now...
Even giving these fearmongrring faggots the benefit of the doubt with their bullshit numbers, it’s more mild than the regular flu.
And why give them that, they have yet to prove to be worthy of the trust. Gullible sheep the lot of us.
Don’t worry, it will have a huge spike after December 14th after the Supreme Court rulings
That death count includes flu and pneumonia. So, no, 266k did NOT die of wuhan-19. Source: CDC. Media is dishonest.
If they counted annual flu deaths the same way they count COLD-19 deaths, the flu would look way more lethal than it is. Dying with the corona cold counts as dying of it, even when the person obviously died of something else like a broken neck or complications of cancer.
Hooray for based teachers! Tell about this place. She'll be tossing that mask in a week and redpilling the staff.
Oh that’s a doot
He will one day flip tables again. Very soon I think
10 hour arizona hearing, table officially flipped!
And do not forget God Turned a whole wicked city into a salt lick and a wife that turned back to look.. And Flooded the world killed off almost everything. The moral of the story. Piss God off you will regret it.
Let us also not forget, God is just and loving. God warned for 120 years before the flood and warned Lot and his wife to leave town. This is the time of warning for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
After that wrath. Praise God for His Just Righteous Vengeance!
Also don't forget that Christians actually believe that a woman was turned into a sat lick.
http://archive.is/XgBeY
I mean to be fair, if there was a vapor deposition of super heated salt going onto someone’s face and crusting over, it certainly would look like someone was turning into salt to someone living 3,700 years ago
What’s that story?
Thanks
i see a meme with biblical reference, i uptrump
Matthew 10:34 Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:32-37:
“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
These are based as fuck. I personally need to work on that first one and last one. I was always a weak kneed faggot when people asked me about faith as a kid.
Here's a great place to start, watching classic Billy Graham - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjZLQY3TBd4
Come as you are. Nobody here is perfect. Today is a good day to be saved. And find a good based church. I'd suggest something like Southern Baptist or if you want to go on the wilder side, something more charismatic.
I read these verses as: God first, family and county next. Losing some commie family members or friends while standing up for righteousness and love is par for the course. There is peace and Joy in God’s will and communion with Him and His saints. It hurts to lose those we love in the world, but we can’t stop fighting and preaching the truth for the approval of those friends and family. If we do we lose ourselves and any chance we had of bringing our family and friends to the Joy of Christ with us. God sent His son to be Sin for us so that we could be with Him. He is coming back for us, any day now. Repent
Amen. As Christians, our politics and all relations should be driven and informed by Godly Bible-based values and motivations. I too have lost relationships with people professing to be Christian but when pressed decided to support a baby-killing corrupt pedo defender and who drank the left's koolade. This is not a hard decision to make, and is a litmus test on who they are behind the facade. So I toughen up and brush off my feet and move on.
It is not for us to sort the wheat from the chaff, but we are called to condemn sin where we see it and not hang out with fools and murders. Hard when those fools are family. It is nice to know the truth about their outlooks so I don’t invest time with someone who’s morals won’t appreciate, understand or reciprocate my efforts at agape love.
We are still called to love them, even if the suggested distance is greater than six feet ;)
Reference?
I know the source :)
He did it more than once.
1st time (only recorded in John): John 2:13-22
2nd time (recorded in Matthew, Mark, and Luke): Matthew 21:12-17, Mark 11:15-18, Luke 19:45-48
Thank you - love those source references :)
And the wolves show their teeth.
"Go sell your shit somewhere else assholes. this is a place of worship." - Jesus Abridged
Apathy towards corruption is just another form of corruption
Jesus not playing. Going to whip a swamp dry.
The next 4 years are going to be glorious. Woe to them who reject God's chosen leader.
I will pray on this one.
Moneychangers in the temple wasn't even a tiny fraction of the industrial grade corruption happening today.
Isn't that what's happening. Trump is just Jesus' horsewhip in our day in age.
An appropriate response for the defilement of his Father's house.
Seems like an equally appropriate measure for those defiling our forefather's gift to us in the peaceful transition of power.
One should read the parable of the ten minas and ask themselves if they are doing enough to escape what judgement will come at the end of time. Luke 19:11-26.
Media & big tech are the #1 enemies. They're curating ALL information available to the public in order to assist foreign interests in taking over this country. We have to get a handle on this.
Updoot for the chesehead hat
Yeah people act like God doesn’t get angry. HELLO read your bibles!!
Yup. WWJD? He'd whip your ass and break your toys.
Always my favorite part of the story
"My temple should be
"A house of prayer
"But you have made it
"A den of thieves!"
Jesus liked stirring shit up.
He had to do it.
I have heard AOC say this is her favorite part of the Bible because it shows Jesus get angry and riot.
Makes we want to turn her table so good!
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Let He who is without sin cast the whip!
It’s Me, fools!
I'm ready, it's time to flip tables!
Dam right!!! God was NEVER against killing every man woman and child or living thing in a evil village.... He told Moses to do it, Abraham, he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah .... Christians have turned into begging for mercy pussies!!! God would be ashamed because God only helps those who help themselves!! I believe that's in the Bible too!! .... So when a bunch of evil BLM supporters or useful idiots come to your church to burn it down or beat your parishioners then you should FIGHT THE FUCK BACK!!!! Beat their assess!!!!... In the name of God and fight FOR HIM!!!... Nothing is coming out of the sky to save you!! He gave you the tools to defend YOURSELF!!! Stop expecting him to do everything FOR YOU!!!
Why Elephants though? Aren't the Demonrats Donkeys?
Also why the Cheese? :p
Republican's are Democrats.
elephants are worse than donkey
"Even Jesus"
Therein lies the fundamental weakness plaguing our society.
"Even Jesus"....
You know it's funny how the entire US Constitution is based on God yet we are still not framing Jesus in the light He deserves. Jesus is the reason for the constitution!
...Jesus created the universe, is undefeated in war, has waged war on His enemies both physically and spiritually, has suffered immensely to secure his elect and has promised that those who do not obey him will receive his full, eternal WRATH. He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, tore down Pharaoh, tore down Caesar. Sent one of his angels to singlehandedly destroy an entire army. But "even Jesus"...
"Even Jesus".
If only we believed in a God that always fights and wins, because Jesus is POWER. But we still keep thinking Jesus was weak when he was meek, that he was ever shy to confront evil when he was completely without Sin and totally conquered death.
We still keep this Hollywood image of a weak (not meek) Jesus. Acting surprised when he'd exert his authority and power.
Instead of what many are doing now and will do (which is nothing)...Jesus and his disciples were directly engaging the leaders of the time. Directly requesting time with Caesar. Directly risking imprisonment and torture to fulfil the mission. Directly spending time in dungeons, seeing their friends crucified. Directly stepping out in front of the entire known world to contradict the narrative.
I believe it was 11 out of 12 disciples who died on the mission to promote the name of Christ. Those aren't rookie numbers from an "even me" kind of God. Those are numbers from a completely fearless warrior who inspired that level of commitment in his followers.
Anthony Freda is a genius.
Cut this one out of the trends journal and had it on my wall for years.
Original has banking names.
My, my, look at the time it's; CRUSADING TIME!!!!!
Michigan Governor Whitmer's lock downs cancelled his hair appointments in perpetuity, Jesus is pissed off and not going to take it anymore! /s
Table-flipping mad, yes, that's how I feel.
They were buying and selling in the temple, defiling it in the eyes of the Lord. This nation was consecrated as to the Lord and now these brood of vipers are looking to defile this land with communism. Not on our watch!
Hey they’re not even elephants. It’s just the ass of a RINO.
LOL.
Flog em, Jesus!!
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord
Never realized how clever the Nevada GOP logo was - nice.
In more relevant new: GIVE 'EM HELL
OP, I’m going to create an account for my dead grandfather to upvote you, because this post deserves more than one upvote per person. You know what? I’m also going to message the MODS, because my and my grandfather’s upvotes need to count as 130%. Because i want them to.
In all seriousness, holy pretzels, you make a SALIENT POINT, thanks.
I remember this really bad rain storm too.
Look, Jesus was badass wherever he went. He was always telling people they were the snakes and liars, pointed out their hypocrisy, and told them to do the right thing. I don't recognize the Jesus the media portray.
Meh, i've also seen leftists use this to justify the riots and looting. i don't like it. The fact is the temple was his house and he had every right to kick them off his property. He didn't get this way with corruption in other places.
He mostly spoke out against the corruption of the establishment...kind of like what trump is doing now.
For me it comes down to the version of anger portrayed. A summary look and seeing a story through my human eyes I can make Jesus have my anger and therefore feel justified having whatever horrible anger I decide is deserving. Very communist of them. I dislike the way they use this verse but it shows who they are quite clearly. They don’t read the Bible for context, just ammunition for their sin. Satin used Bible verses against Jesus, even the devil knows the Bible.
As stated early, here for your convenience: Righteous Anger, one might say, is different than classic or deranged anger. In so much as it has authentic care and love behind the upset feelings, will spur the emotional to respond to the injustice. Much different than anger for anger sake or self aggrandizement. TDS for example would be a righteous anger if President Trump was legitimately a Nazi, but since he isn’t, it’s just deranged anger. No basis on reality for the anger like classic, just manipulation control. Dangerous anger it has become.
Sure. But i don't think we need to use Jesus here to justify ourselves because this was an exception of throwing the crooks off of his property. Jesus was quite peaceful to the corrupted individuals that killed him. There are other verses we can use.