Matt, I know you or your staff are reading this. You're not a perfect person, and you need a haircut, but if you put your neck out for our president you will be enshrined as a hero for freedom for the rest of your life.
DO THE RIGHT THING MATT AND YOU’LL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE FOLKS WHO SAVED OUR REPUBLIC! Also, you know God is watching and will judge your soul accordingly right? All we’re asking for is the TRUTH!
Unfortunately people like Gaetz and Jordon are few and the Rhinos are many..They won't do shit, and I sincerely hope Gaetz and company rat out the ones who refuse to do anything. We need to send the GOP a message, either have our backs or we forever say fuck off, and you can then see the left burn this nation down..Then we can organize and take back what's ours..
I'd be fine with returning to church if she wanted. Shouldn't it be her choice as to if she wants to go to church? Maybe she would be a breaking point for Matt's relationship with God.
So disappointing. I wish that more of those in positions of power truly understood the urgency of this moment. If he doesn't do something other than talk and tweet to right this ship, all my support for him will be completely gone.
Yes, I remember well. One of the reasons I support him- and I support very, very few politicians. I am just saying that, after that statement about recognizing Biden's legitimacy if he gets in, he really needs to prove himself with more than just words for me to believe he is motivated by more than personal ambition. There is a general tendency in the DC bubble to think that this will blow over and things will pretty much return to normal if this fraud is allowed to stand, and I don't think they have any concept of how naive they are being.
He is telling truth, most of the GOP are cowards who will do nothing but welcome Biden so they can continue to get rich side by side like before Trump.
This ain’t a fucking bomb. A bomb would be an arrest, a state flipping—something of damn substance. This is nothing more than chatter to placate Trump’s base.
It's kind of like using the word firebrand for someone who pacifies patriots by using bold words, but in the end is actually completely detatched from patriotic Americans & how bad things truly are. It degrades the true meaning of a word when it's used inappropriately, but I understand clickbait has it's place.
R turned Libertarian turned back to R for Trump. I will never, ever, in a million years support another R unless they 100% support Trump. I'm in the Trump party now and I'm never leaving.
Why isn't this higher? For four years now we've had R's drop nothing more than silly one liners on the elites / Dems. Yet, NOT single arrest, not a single one of these traitorous fucks have suffered the consequences.
After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted
Democrats control the house. This is fucking worthless.
She can’t walk out 1/3 of the states. I am sure at least 2/3 of the states have at least 1 R rep. If they stay, they would be the state’s delegation by default.
If Nancy walks out, what stops Nunes from claiming he is the delegation from CA? What are they going to do say he isn’t while in hiding ? If they show up it doesn’t matter because there is still a quorum and Trump will have the votes by state delegation.
Exactly, and Trump would win 50-0, as opposed to something like 26-24.
I don't think it'll come to the House of Reps, though. It would take both men failing to get the majority of electoral votes when it's time for the college to vote.
If, however, a state like PA simply refuses to send their 20 electors, as is their right, the magic number drops from 270 to 260.
It's not as simple as "neither man has 270" it has to be "neither man has a majority of the electors appointed and present when the college convenes to cast its vote for President."
There's not a scenario where electors would be sent to vote without an understanding of whom they are voting for. And if they're not sent at all, then the number needed for the majority simply drops.
In that case, Trump needs literally every swing state (NV, AZ, WI, MI, PA, GA) to decline to send electors. That would give him the majority of those present 232-227.
The more likely path to victory is: SCOTUS tells the state houses that their elections were compromised and the vote totals can't be trusted: Send your own electors as per your Constitutional duty, Article 2 Sec 1.2. In that case Trump would win with any three of PA, WI, MI, GA, or AZ.
THIS - Piglosi would need more than 1/3 of the states to literally have not a single MAGA GOP rep. I havent done the math, but that isnt likely. Even the blue states have at least 1 GOP rep.
(Looks like there only needs to be one rep from a state...)
12th Amendment
...if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
This isn't directly related to what we're discussing, but it's relevant to the discussion we're attached to.
"Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted."
The bolded part is where we'll separate the grandstanding from the people who actually support us. If we get to this point and our reps just bluster, but don't sign, we'll know.
Also, I'm seeing that holders of public office cannot be the representatives, they must have been selected prior to the election.
It's in the interest of both parties to do this or something similar. Election integrity is everything. The Dems have been allowed to run relatively minor scams for decades, but this is intolerable and cannot be allowed to stand and establish a 'new normal'. Now is the time for all good representatives to defend the nation.
Never say never. This isn’t Russia. Say over 60 years we go from having President Trump to only ever losing, then the party changes and we start to get only corrupt leaders that are willing to play the globalist game.
It’s true if we lose this we won’t win again, but that just means we as who the party is now. The party can change...for the worse.
Listen pedes. This won’t happen because if either the House or Senate do not agree the electoral votes are counted. And we know who has House majority.
That’s under different circumstances. It’s complicated and I’ve had a couple beers so I’ll let another order explain or look into the EC process yourself.
What Gaetz is suggesting is both chambers choosing to decline the election of some states which seems like some sort of bill thatd have to be passed which would require majorities from both chambers.
Matt, we know you come here and look around. You know full well that if your collegues do not stand up to this and stand up for our President. We will make sure the Elephant becomes an extinct species. The mighty lion will rise out and make sure every one of these GOP traitors never have a political job....including being their local dog catcher.
I like Matt, but we all know that the majority in Congress and the Senate are cowards and will do nothing..The only way to make them act is to allow them to lose their power..I say we let the left win, sit back and watch the country and the GOP burn..They absolutely refuse to have our backs fuck them all..Or we organize, and we take what's ours by force, we have several hundred thousand pedes here, most are well armed and trained or have seen combat..We need to show the left and the Rhinos that we are not to be fucked with..
Alright, now that the initial pump has ended, there's no way the GOP won't stab the President in the back in this situation. It's a majority vote, right? I don't trust a minority of Congress, let alone a majority.
Push him. I'm a Gaetz fan, of course, but I'm sick to fucking death of listening to these do-nothing fuckers TALK while DOING nothing. Here, he's for-real TALKING about TALKING!!! He's talking about talking. Facepalm. Absorb that.
I hadn't considered this avenue. This would work very well. Would end with each state getting a single vote... But the downside is that the states where fraud happened would be heavily pressured to honor the fraudulent results.
That's why we are having these "hearings," so the delegations know the fraud, the numbers, and the people involved. Hopefully will lesson any pressure from Governor/DNC/State Leadership.
This is exactly how I see it. He tweets and posts a lot, but I don't see much action. Until Trump does something drastic that requires Gaetz to make a stand with him or not, that's when we will all know.
Wow that would be great to expose it to middle ground people who haven’t heard of or seen the evidence but I doubt the dems and rinos will do much about it. Trump will in the next four years. MAGA
If these institutions do not resolve the crisis and there is conflict of interest they have to be adjourned for a few months of time until the president will root out all evil as granted under God.
Rinos and dems are the same thing. That's why holding the senate with rinos is a waste of time. Trump or war. I'm good with that now its do or die time let the most committed side win.
The salt still hasn't stopped from Bush v. Gore. Maybe south park will include "president elect" Biden in their sequel to stick of truth. I'll buy that game.
Matt, I know you or your staff are reading this. You're not a perfect person, and you need a haircut, but if you put your neck out for our president you will be enshrined as a hero for freedom for the rest of your life.
This.In.Spades.
Please use the non-gendered term, SpadeX.
SpaceX?
IT’S VACUUM!
Space exlax in a vacuum.
Spanx.
ALSO to Matt’s staff - We can’t fucking wait to get us some commies
I identify as a trans-dimensional being you xigot!
Kek! I think I woke up my neighbor laughing. Thanks.
Is it just me or does latinx sound like a Spanish porn site? I literally just had to look up what it means
It's a Mexican kleenex.
Wait til you find out what nigx means.
Here for the tech people that just read that as nginx.
Chin.x
SpaceXy
Kevin Spacey?
SpaceKY
Space Force
what if you're a weird brand of Chinese.. ChinX?
oh wait....
As an asian american I am almost offended.
Sorry- you’re white now. You can’t be offended. They needed to make room for other minorities 🤷♂️
You all were pulling up the minority average and exposing the myth behind systemic racism.
Since you are a Trump supporter that is .7 of an offense. If you were a libtard it would be 1.3 of an offense.
I love your food!
Food brings people together. I mean look at thanksgiving.
I would almost apologize.
:/
That's almost very kind of you.
now kith
But then you laughed ;)
Reeeeeee!
I thought we were going with Spandex
DO THE RIGHT THING MATT AND YOU’LL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS ONE OF THE FOLKS WHO SAVED OUR REPUBLIC! Also, you know God is watching and will judge your soul accordingly right? All we’re asking for is the TRUTH!
Unfortunately people like Gaetz and Jordon are few and the Rhinos are many..They won't do shit, and I sincerely hope Gaetz and company rat out the ones who refuse to do anything. We need to send the GOP a message, either have our backs or we forever say fuck off, and you can then see the left burn this nation down..Then we can organize and take back what's ours..
Wasnt he trying to get at Trumps daughter? This might go down as one of the biggest how i met you mom ever!!!!
I thought I have been quite clear when I called dibs on Tiffany!
I see you!! if you need a wing man to any events with her friends, i got you .
Sweet, great to have willing frens!
It would be better for Tiffany as Matt Gaetz is a Christian.
I don't get it.
Barron and Tiffany need to marry into good Christian homes. If Matt Gaetz wants to marry tiffany, it would be great as he is a practicing Christian.
Leary of the Kushners? # MeToo
I'd be fine with returning to church if she wanted. Shouldn't it be her choice as to if she wants to go to church? Maybe she would be a breaking point for Matt's relationship with God.
There's plenty of Tiffany for all of us.
folx*
Deport this negative newb
Seriously tho Gaetz said on Bannon he wouldn't call Biden illegitimate and would work with him if he becomes president.
the 1:31 mark on this episode- https://thedonald.win/p/11QRfYqwLP/live-steve-bannon-war-room-daily/c/
So disappointing. I wish that more of those in positions of power truly understood the urgency of this moment. If he doesn't do something other than talk and tweet to right this ship, all my support for him will be completely gone.
Gaetz was basically the only politician who went to rallies to stop Broward county from stealing the governor an senate positions in FL in 2018.
Yes, I remember well. One of the reasons I support him- and I support very, very few politicians. I am just saying that, after that statement about recognizing Biden's legitimacy if he gets in, he really needs to prove himself with more than just words for me to believe he is motivated by more than personal ambition. There is a general tendency in the DC bubble to think that this will blow over and things will pretty much return to normal if this fraud is allowed to stand, and I don't think they have any concept of how naive they are being.
He is telling truth, most of the GOP are cowards who will do nothing but welcome Biden so they can continue to get rich side by side like before Trump.
lol "and you need a haircut"
We will need a list of statues to make after this war. Be on that list.
He has to go balls deep though. All in, nothing held back. Unleashed.
This ain’t a fucking bomb. A bomb would be an arrest, a state flipping—something of damn substance. This is nothing more than chatter to placate Trump’s base.
Raise your damn standards.
A bomb would be Trump invoking the Insurrection Act
Yes, that would certainly qualify.
Not all bombs are equal though, this is like an unexploded WW2 mine being lobbed over a fence. Still a bomb 💣
It's kind of like using the word firebrand for someone who pacifies patriots by using bold words, but in the end is actually completely detatched from patriotic Americans & how bad things truly are. It degrades the true meaning of a word when it's used inappropriately, but I understand clickbait has it's place.
That’s a MOAB.
Excellent article.
That's not a bomb, that's a Big Boy level nuke.
Agreed, it's all talk and lip service because they know pissing off Trump's base means they lose all of their support.
Too fucking late
Why is it late? Care to expand?
I just mean the GOP already pissed me off and I only support them currently because Trump asked us to
I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT FOR OUR LION PARTY
After Trump's second term, viable options certainly need to be on the table for one or more parties not Republican or Democrat.
Republicans have lost my loyalty.
R turned Libertarian turned back to R for Trump. I will never, ever, in a million years support another R unless they 100% support Trump. I'm in the Trump party now and I'm never leaving.
Will be interested to see what their fund raising is like going forward.
Why isn't this higher? For four years now we've had R's drop nothing more than silly one liners on the elites / Dems. Yet, NOT single arrest, not a single one of these traitorous fucks have suffered the consequences.
Still big news
Democrats control the house. This is fucking worthless.
She can’t walk out 1/3 of the states. I am sure at least 2/3 of the states have at least 1 R rep. If they stay, they would be the state’s delegation by default.
If Nancy walks out, what stops Nunes from claiming he is the delegation from CA? What are they going to do say he isn’t while in hiding ? If they show up it doesn’t matter because there is still a quorum and Trump will have the votes by state delegation.
not gonna lie, id be willing to bet pelosi has a bigger dick than schumer does.
Exactly, and Trump would win 50-0, as opposed to something like 26-24.
I don't think it'll come to the House of Reps, though. It would take both men failing to get the majority of electoral votes when it's time for the college to vote.
If, however, a state like PA simply refuses to send their 20 electors, as is their right, the magic number drops from 270 to 260.
It's not as simple as "neither man has 270" it has to be "neither man has a majority of the electors appointed and present when the college convenes to cast its vote for President."
There's not a scenario where electors would be sent to vote without an understanding of whom they are voting for. And if they're not sent at all, then the number needed for the majority simply drops.
In that case, Trump needs literally every swing state (NV, AZ, WI, MI, PA, GA) to decline to send electors. That would give him the majority of those present 232-227.
The more likely path to victory is: SCOTUS tells the state houses that their elections were compromised and the vote totals can't be trusted: Send your own electors as per your Constitutional duty, Article 2 Sec 1.2. In that case Trump would win with any three of PA, WI, MI, GA, or AZ.
/rant
while technically true, NO STATE is going to just "not send" their electors.
That would be intentionally disenfanchising all their voters, and will NOT happen, not by ANY state.
GA. WI, and AZ only would mean 269.
THIS - Piglosi would need more than 1/3 of the states to literally have not a single MAGA GOP rep. I havent done the math, but that isnt likely. Even the blue states have at least 1 GOP rep.
SCOTUS could skip the Congressional objection step and remand the election to be decided directly by the House/Senate.
That would bypass Pelosi's planned little temper tantrum.
She cannot truthfully say this is an unConstitutional attempt to circumvent the election - it is written right there as a remedy for this very reason.
If that's how you think he's going to win this, he's not going to win it.
I'm pretty sure there are strict rules as to the selection of the state rep for this purpose though. Not something that can be finagled easily.
Here are the rules...
(Looks like there only needs to be one rep from a state...)
12th Amendment
...if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice.
Right, doesn't matter if they walk out as long as there's at least 1 R from each state.
This isn't directly related to what we're discussing, but it's relevant to the discussion we're attached to.
"Since 1887, 3 U.S.C. 15 sets the method for objections to electoral votes. During the Joint Session, Members of Congress may object to individual electoral votes or to state returns as a whole. An objection must be declared in writing and signed by at least one Representative and one Senator. In the case of an objection, the Joint Session recesses and each chamber considers the objection separately in a session which cannot last more than two hours with each Member speaking for no more than five minutes. After each house votes on whether or not to accept the objection, the Joint Session reconvenes and both chambers disclose their decisions. If they agree to the objection, the votes in question are not counted. If either chamber does not agree with the objection, the votes are counted."
The bolded part is where we'll separate the grandstanding from the people who actually support us. If we get to this point and our reps just bluster, but don't sign, we'll know.
Also, I'm seeing that holders of public office cannot be the representatives, they must have been selected prior to the election.
Good point. Matt’s gonna have to do better than having a chat if it doesn’t matter if pelosi doesn’t approve.
So Matt Gaetz is just giving us lip service and reading us bed time stories. How sweet!
EXACTLY
Gaetz pacifying the patriots with Q level bullshit.
More talk of Republicans doing something.....wake me if it happens.
Don't worry buddy, I've been keeping a running total for you, here it is so far:
Flipped states: 0 (zero)
Arrests: 0 (zero)
Talk: LOTS and LOTS
I expect more energy!!
PURE ENERGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5WRKnCRPHA
If this is tried, it can't be until after the 14th. So you'll have a nice long nap.
If your that tired? You really should just go.
*you're
Oh shit...you got. Me.
This would be good. Matt is a based patriot.
He's so bases he's managed to get nothing done. Good job Matt! When can I catch your next bull shit interview on Faux?
He's not trying to run out the clock. This couldn't be done anyways until after the electors have been chosen, and maybe voted.
What we should do is start contacting our state reps, and telling them we want them to do this.
It's in the interest of both parties to do this or something similar. Election integrity is everything. The Dems have been allowed to run relatively minor scams for decades, but this is intolerable and cannot be allowed to stand and establish a 'new normal'. Now is the time for all good representatives to defend the nation.
God's speed future President Gaetz.
Democrats would be stupid to want this, if thinking long term. What if the dominion beast turns on them?
Hahahahahahah
They don't have to worry about that. Ever.
Never say never. This isn’t Russia. Say over 60 years we go from having President Trump to only ever losing, then the party changes and we start to get only corrupt leaders that are willing to play the globalist game.
It’s true if we lose this we won’t win again, but that just means we as who the party is now. The party can change...for the worse.
Listen pedes. This won’t happen because if either the House or Senate do not agree the electoral votes are counted. And we know who has House majority.
Doesn't each state get only 1 vote at that point?
That’s under different circumstances. It’s complicated and I’ve had a couple beers so I’ll let another order explain or look into the EC process yourself.
What Gaetz is suggesting is both chambers choosing to decline the election of some states which seems like some sort of bill thatd have to be passed which would require majorities from both chambers.
Thanks for the clarification!
FUCKING DO IT!!!
Matt is great, I hope his blackmail threshold isn't reached like all the rest.
Matt, we know you come here and look around. You know full well that if your collegues do not stand up to this and stand up for our President. We will make sure the Elephant becomes an extinct species. The mighty lion will rise out and make sure every one of these GOP traitors never have a political job....including being their local dog catcher.
So square up and make them do the right thing.
LOL. The GOP was in on the FIX.
What other lies are they telling you Matt?
I like Matt, but we all know that the majority in Congress and the Senate are cowards and will do nothing..The only way to make them act is to allow them to lose their power..I say we let the left win, sit back and watch the country and the GOP burn..They absolutely refuse to have our backs fuck them all..Or we organize, and we take what's ours by force, we have several hundred thousand pedes here, most are well armed and trained or have seen combat..We need to show the left and the Rhinos that we are not to be fucked with..
My favourite part: "Nothing is off the table."
Alright, now that the initial pump has ended, there's no way the GOP won't stab the President in the back in this situation. It's a majority vote, right? I don't trust a minority of Congress, let alone a majority.
WOW, this must be serious, they skipped the stern letter writing and went straight to "an interest"...
Every single democrat in the house is a total and complete immoral piece of shit.
They voted in lock-step for the shampeachmemt. Not a single fucking one of them is worth a ventilator.
They can get fucked to death and then fucked some more afterwards.
This aint shit and wont be shit until enough of the are gone to form a majority.
anon, i...
please don't misunderstand me; i appreciate the effort tremendously, but this is low quality bait
have the discussion. spare us the tease
Push him. I'm a Gaetz fan, of course, but I'm sick to fucking death of listening to these do-nothing fuckers TALK while DOING nothing. Here, he's for-real TALKING about TALKING!!! He's talking about talking. Facepalm. Absorb that.
You are forgiven Pede
I hadn't considered this avenue. This would work very well. Would end with each state getting a single vote... But the downside is that the states where fraud happened would be heavily pressured to honor the fraudulent results.
That's why we are having these "hearings," so the delegations know the fraud, the numbers, and the people involved. Hopefully will lesson any pressure from Governor/DNC/State Leadership.
We wont forget this Matt. Good or bad. You can take that to the bank. Or lack of it to the bank.
Unfortunately not accepting state electors for either candidate in state where Dems districts caused the irregularities is a victory for the cheaters.
It's much better to toss out ballots from Dems counties causing the irregularities to give the honest party a win in the state.
This is exactly how I see it. He tweets and posts a lot, but I don't see much action. Until Trump does something drastic that requires Gaetz to make a stand with him or not, that's when we will all know.
We are going to examine fraud tommorrow and decide if we will accept the electors or not. FIFY
Faith must be had in elections or there is no republic.
God, Matt, I would hope so! What future do we have, if otherwise?
Wow that would be great to expose it to middle ground people who haven’t heard of or seen the evidence but I doubt the dems and rinos will do much about it. Trump will in the next four years. MAGA
Sounds Good, get it crackin.. .
What if the legislature actually DID THEIR JOBS INSTEAD OF LEAVING EVERYTHING TO THE COURTS!?
Yeah right. Congressional Republicans are nothing but controlled opposition at this point. They won’t do a damn thing.
Does it make me ghey if I say I'm starting to love this man?
If these institutions do not resolve the crisis and there is conflict of interest they have to be adjourned for a few months of time until the president will root out all evil as granted under God.
Rinos and dems are the same thing. That's why holding the senate with rinos is a waste of time. Trump or war. I'm good with that now its do or die time let the most committed side win.
YES PLEASE. GET REK'T COMMIES.
Matt, thanks for all the hard work! Keep it up buddy!
The salt still hasn't stopped from Bush v. Gore. Maybe south park will include "president elect" Biden in their sequel to stick of truth. I'll buy that game.
Good talk. Now DO IT!!!
MG is a young RG
Mr. Gaetz, thank you! We’ll get your back whenever you need us, after this!
Get this shit done, Gaetz! If not, prepare to be replaced by your Democrat over loads...
dude is a warrior