I have heard an opinion that 230 itself is not the problem infact 230 gives websites like this the protection from being sued for what we post. So forums are not responsible for their posters and thus do not need to censor/curate their users. But, if you are an editorial site, ie paying the people who post, then you are responsible for the posters.
Not exactly sure what the 230 rules are, but there might need clarification or reform to adjust for sites that curate their content. But, I have a feeling that sites like this rely heavily on 230, if we loose 230 out-right this site will be taken out long before the facebooks and twitters are.
230 says that IF you are a platform, THEN you are not held accountable.
Twitter and Facebook are NOT platforms. They are Publishers, which means they are choosing what can be said. Therefore they have no standing under 230.
Because spineless cucks refuse to enforce 230 against T&F, 230 must be completely destroyed to send a message.
It's an extremely bad outcome. The correct action was to enforce 230, but no one did. Just like the correct action was to audit the votes, but no one did.
I'd argue that's different, on account of the person being forbidden from using the service due to violating a rule, whereas Facebook and Twitter just yeet people, without any rule ever being broken.
if tally is based on fraudulent ballots, then recount will be equal, and just as filled with the same fraudulent ballots.
we need actual fucking audits already. These crooked cronies are doing every option possible to not allow anyone to do full, actual audits on legitimacy. It's disgusting.
[we can remove illegal and] otherwise questionable content
those are the only 3 words that would need to be deleted, BUT, congress are traitors, FCC Ajit Pai is a traitor, everyone is a traitor, so just remove it, it'll hurt everyone but hurt (((them))) the most
If Section 230 was repealed Facebook's stock might actually go up.
Twitter will never, ever be solvent. That's why they were so easy to compromise. It's why Jack is so cucked. He is not in control of his company in any way.
This is unpopular I'm sure, but big tech is gonna love this.
Because they utilized its benefit to grow, and now they have enough users and money where it really doesn't matter if they are sued. New start ups don't have either of these benefits, so they will be vulnerable, which coincidentally the big tech can exploit to get rid of websites they don't like. Whether they are a direct competitor, or simply a provider or some other service.
What we should do is instead of getting rid of 230, simply enforce it as it was intended. Give it some teeth, and when companies violate the spirit of the law, they lose those protections, permanently. It should basically be a status that a company has, like how a person has the right to vote until they commit a felony.
EXCUSE ME BIGOT
your announcement hurt my Fee-Fees AND my recent bottom-surgery.
next time consider the use of a TRIGGER WARNING so i bleed less while dilating and blasting lesbian folk music from my apartment. my cats like to listen to it while put posters of Marx up on my walls.
Because the military will confirm what we already know. Foreign interference in the election included social media companies.
It sets the stage for the executive order on election meddling. Military will argue that big tech was part of the interference apparatus and will support the veto.
Personally I don’t care if it destroys the internet entirely. Fuck it. The human rights of nearly every person on this planet have been violated, largely due these tech oligarchs behind the scenes machinations. I love this place but that’s about it. Fuck the internet.
You son of a bitch.
Never begin a post with that wording unless there's ACTUALLY a fucking country launching nuclear missiles. I almost had a heart attack lol.
hahahah you got got
you got got. you got got.
Starcraft reference.
You need more vespene gas.
MINE MORE MINERALS https://imgur.com/0TEadKu
South Koreans have actually killed each other over Starcraft matches. Before League of Legends came along it was practically their national sport.
Relevant.
I thought it was C&C Red Alert 🤔
I just started playing through the HD version of RA and holy hell.. the first line by Kane in there...
"He who controls the past, commands the future. He who commands the future, conquers the past."
Fuck if that isn't extremely relevant/foreboding right now.
Yeah, watch those titles. That’s two today that got me.
Made me jump for a sec too.
God damn OP go play more Starcraft and stop scaring us
I have heard an opinion that 230 itself is not the problem infact 230 gives websites like this the protection from being sued for what we post. So forums are not responsible for their posters and thus do not need to censor/curate their users. But, if you are an editorial site, ie paying the people who post, then you are responsible for the posters.
Not exactly sure what the 230 rules are, but there might need clarification or reform to adjust for sites that curate their content. But, I have a feeling that sites like this rely heavily on 230, if we loose 230 out-right this site will be taken out long before the facebooks and twitters are.
230 says that IF you are a platform, THEN you are not held accountable.
Twitter and Facebook are NOT platforms. They are Publishers, which means they are choosing what can be said. Therefore they have no standing under 230.
Because spineless cucks refuse to enforce 230 against T&F, 230 must be completely destroyed to send a message.
It's an extremely bad outcome. The correct action was to enforce 230, but no one did. Just like the correct action was to audit the votes, but no one did.
That also happens on this site.. Lefties are ejected all the time.
I'd argue that's different, on account of the person being forbidden from using the service due to violating a rule, whereas Facebook and Twitter just yeet people, without any rule ever being broken.
"bUt wE rEcOunTeD!!!"
if tally is based on fraudulent ballots, then recount will be equal, and just as filled with the same fraudulent ballots.
we need actual fucking audits already. These crooked cronies are doing every option possible to not allow anyone to do full, actual audits on legitimacy. It's disgusting.
It wouldn’t be a problem if our politicians weren’t doing kabuki theater.
Now how can we fuck Bezos up with this is my real question. I refuse to live under an amazonian empire.
Antitrust and anti monopoly, profiteering during time of emergency, or just old fashioned tar feather and rail.
Gain power in transport or government, forbid Amazon from operating in your area.
Undercut their prices. Loudly boycott suppliers who work with Amazon.
This is correct.
If theres no editorial by mods, then we are fine
those are the only 3 words that would need to be deleted, BUT, congress are traitors, FCC Ajit Pai is a traitor, everyone is a traitor, so just remove it, it'll hurt everyone but hurt (((them))) the most
If Section 230 was repealed Facebook's stock might actually go up.
Twitter will never, ever be solvent. That's why they were so easy to compromise. It's why Jack is so cucked. He is not in control of his company in any way.
Yep, it would suppress competitors.
Repealing 230 is a gift to facebook
Very astute observation
This is unpopular I'm sure, but big tech is gonna love this.
Because they utilized its benefit to grow, and now they have enough users and money where it really doesn't matter if they are sued. New start ups don't have either of these benefits, so they will be vulnerable, which coincidentally the big tech can exploit to get rid of websites they don't like. Whether they are a direct competitor, or simply a provider or some other service.
What we should do is instead of getting rid of 230, simply enforce it as it was intended. Give it some teeth, and when companies violate the spirit of the law, they lose those protections, permanently. It should basically be a status that a company has, like how a person has the right to vote until they commit a felony.
EXCUSE ME BIGOT your announcement hurt my Fee-Fees AND my recent bottom-surgery. next time consider the use of a TRIGGER WARNING so i bleed less while dilating and blasting lesbian folk music from my apartment. my cats like to listen to it while put posters of Marx up on my walls.
Do it FFS. People act like they're killing god if they repeal section 230
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS
Oh boy dis gunna be good.
In the Twitter gulag right now for dropping the raw fact that Cardib (@IamCardib) is a filthy whore.
Donald (@realDonaldTrump) kill that Section 230 and liberate us dissidents.
Mr Dorsey (@jack) please eat a bowl of sun dried bull dicks you AIDS afflicted looking douche nozzle.
Because the military will confirm what we already know. Foreign interference in the election included social media companies.
It sets the stage for the executive order on election meddling. Military will argue that big tech was part of the interference apparatus and will support the veto.
no one is going to turn down a trump veto when he owns the republican party right now, rinos are going to get primaried hard
Do you honestly think that he will restrict pay from the military? I don't.
Exactly. This doom and gloom "oh no he doesn't know what he's doing" shit is pathetic. The military understands what's at stake and are with us.
Oh shit, he put in in the NDAA. Either 230 ends, or government shuts down. Win/Win!
Seriously....who’s shorting Tech stock right now...
FB + Twitter = 📉
Personally I don’t care if it destroys the internet entirely. Fuck it. The human rights of nearly every person on this planet have been violated, largely due these tech oligarchs behind the scenes machinations. I love this place but that’s about it. Fuck the internet.
The stocks will do fine because the stock market is apolitical. Stop it with the superfluous BS.