Eh disagree about Punk though. Punk is mostly an anti-establishment, anti/limited government mindset/movement. Most of us here at TD and even Trump himself fit right into what Punk is about.
No they aren’t. Only the same socialist cucks that have always been leftists like NOFX, Anti-Flag, Greenday and Propagandhi. Others like Rancid are pro-America.
I've had their songs: Liberty, Media Sensation, Title Fighter, and especially Outrage, on repeat for the last month. Listen to the lyrics and you'll know why.
Yeah fuck Fat Mike he’s a big dipshit. The first time I saw them was a show in a school gym, and they were selling “Fuck the PMRC” 45s. Now he’s all in with dem leftists who wanna control every aspect of our lives.
That's good to hear. I wasn't exposed to non commie punk back in the day, I didn't know the difference but something about the bands you listed there seemed way off and uninspired to me, they sound like they're trying to sound talentless
Yeah, I hate being one of the only BASED people in the pop-punk community. All your friends will you chew you up and spit you out in a second once they figure out you're not a commie.
And forget about finding a girlfriend that wants to headbang to the same music as you AND love your country together.
Yikes!!! I've never explored Nashville pre-covid. I've only been there one time, this past summer, and it didn't seem like a very "country" town. Seemed very "default" city for the most part. I've been hearing concerns for a while now that country music is becoming cucked.
I think we have overarching problems. The Record Companies are getting woke and they're influencing the culture through music. It's part of why Rock music is also dying.
We need to fight for our music.... somehow. Unfortunately I can't write very good songs, or write songs at all, but something needs to be done.
I know, it blows my fucking mind, kids I rolled with even. I realized they didn't see the big picture, and were just in it for the fun of it, hell even bands I used to be into that have now cucked out. Now this does give me a bit of "convincing power" if I play my cards right with these "punk" friends because they saw what I was and am still like, but it is still disappointing.
All of these groups began with the outcasts. Then it morphs into a fashion statement. Punk morphed into a popular trend.
I suppose you could've said I was a proto-goth back in the 80's. But by that time, punk was more popular.
When I grew out of my gloomy 'disaffected youth' phase I actually moved to punk. I cut off all of my hair and dyed it bright. Lots of band t-shirts. That was my 'happy, sociable" phase. That was in 89-90.
Then I picked up grunge before grunge had a name. It was pretty cool to watch the grunge scene develop in the 90's. Fashion finally caught up with ME!
What's hilarious is that my 'grunge-type' style wasn't a style. I just grew up in Wyoming and that's what people wore in the winter. Lots of plaid shirts overlaid t-shirts or thermal underwear. Jeans. Thick socks and boots. I kept my black leather wrist bands and bracelets from my punk days.
I think that my experience is why I didn't react at all to my kids' experimentation in their teen years. When my daughter went goth I just drove her to Hot Topic, then showed her ways to do a lot of that style economically. Off to the hardware store and the walmart pet department we went.
hahahah I forgot about the pet chains, I stole a 4foot chain from the pet store for my wallet, looked ridiculous. I kinda flowed between punk, techno, grunge, preppie depending on my mood, now as an adult I am, to my wife's dismay, in perpetual skater boy mode. I guess I was an attention seeker with my died hair and spikes, but the whole goth emo thing just wasn't for me.
As a metalhead, I feel that metal has anti establishment roots as well. Quite a few guys in the scene are based but holy fuck there are a ton of cucks here now. Such fucking AIDS.
I've met people who are both "woke" punk, and based punk. It's funny because the people in the last group got called skinheads and nazis. They were my friends. Not a single nazi among them lol
Until Hayley went full SJW and decided to go on a crusade against the song that put the band on the map, yeah xD.
Also I'm not too big on the direction they took after self-titled. Even after Brand New Eyes really. Paramore is 100% a pop band now, which I understand but I have to don't like.
am a 70's boomer, loved the old school punk, but then times change and so did I. Funny thing about me is, I love old punk but hate heavy metal. have never really been of a fan of pop either, hated when the clash went the pop route.
My parents raised me on 80's hair metal and being a mid-90's kid I spent my childhood listening to Bowling For Soup/Green Day/Avril Lavigne etc., so the Rock that was on the radio at that time was what I got the most exposure to. I guess whatever was getting pumped onto TRL/MTV before that show and the channel went to shit.
I never knew The Clash went pop... will have to take a look at that.
I listen to Andrew Wilkow often and he always talks about The Ramones. I'm planning to do a deep dive into other pre-80's rock music after I finally get some free time so I can check out the earlier parts of the genre.
hate heavy metal
Can agree with you there. I'll call myself a metalhead but I don't get into the super heavy stuff.
I also think my exposure to Hair Metal kind of primed me for the Emo/Pop-punk movement, since there's some similarity between those genres. And there's definitely a some shared style between them too.
But that's just what I've dealt with. I completely respect older genres of rock and have kind of had to find whatever home I can in the cultures that have been around since I was born. And it's getting harder since rock is basically dead in 2020.
also, give a listen to the first clash album, then listen to London Calling, you can see the pop influence. then listen to roch the casba, way too poppi for punk. pop and punk dont actually mix, which is why i refer pop punk to being a mental illness.
the crazy thing about pretty much all punk bands is, their first albums are usually their best in terms of antisocial punkness, then they all start heading towards the pop genre to cash in. I guess record execs cant help but steer everyone towards what they think sells.
I would also recommend having a listen to sex pistols great rock and roll swindle. absolute punk rock story.
Tbh, I used to not care about trans people. Didn't know TOO much about it as it wasn't a popular subject in college until a while after I was out/never knew any trans people in person, but I understood the gist. I thought calling it a mental illness was a little outrageous and I didn't think too much more of it beyond "i don't care what people want to do to themselves". When the trans military ban happened, out of curiosity I wanted to kind of learn more about trans people so i started watching trans youtubers (not in any specific category, just various trans people) to get some insight into how they think and all that. After a while of watching those, I started slowly realizing that my entire perception of these people was changing and the more i watched, the more I realized these people are absolutely fucking mentally ill. Again, I didn't conclude this because of muh right-wing propaganda influencing me, I literally watched trans people live/talk/show me whatever THEY chose to show me, and all it did was solidify the "trans is a mental illness" talking point that they all hate so much. Made me feel icky so i stopped watching but my conclusion has remained since.
The thing that made me against it was that they want to force people to play along with their belief system. Like it's fine if a man believes he's a woman or a woman believes he's a man, that doesn't affect me at all. What DOES affect me is them telling me that I have to believe it too, and pretend like a trans woman is no different than a biological woman. Why can't they just live life the way they want without forcing everyone else to abandon all established science regarding biological sex?
Ohhh yeah good point. Before my "revelation", when I thought of trans people, I like..."passing" trans people (again, very little personal experience to go off of lol). I always thought, "well, if they LOOK like whatever gender they say they are, who cares if they use X bathroom or want to be referred to as that gender, you wouldn't even know otherwise". Then the trans thing started blowing up and getting more and more popular and it became clear that most "trans" people are not passing. I moved to a new town a few years ago and there's several trans(?) people i've seen on a regular basis that are very obviously burly men in wigs/stuffed bras. At the bar I work at, just today one of them used the women's bathroom and it was very uncomfortable to observe. It doesn't feel right calling them by their ~preferred pronouns~. It's like seeing a cat and saying "oh, a cat!" and someone goes "nope, that's a dog. call it a dog.". ....but it's a cat?? It feels like your mind is playing tricks on your eyes. It's not natural and it's awkward to force.
This is my main issue as well. You can live in pretend fantasy land all you want, dont care. But that doesn’t mean I have to abide by your stupid pronouns or agree with your warped view of genders.
Also, if I wanted to chop an appendage to get a peg leg or a hook, because I identified as a pirate, people would call me crazy. But chopping off your dick? Totally sane... rigggghhhht?
All I knew was the porn stuff and Thailand lady boys, so I was like eh they just want to be chicks...but after reading shit on reddit, and even learning an ex friend is now trans and seeing what he posts, I lost it. There is so much drama to read about too, old trans hate new trans, a lot of lesbians and gays hate trans, a lot of trans hate lesbians because they won't accept their "girl dicks", wild shit, I could probably write a book about it all.
I think a lot of it has to do with attention, which is where Elijah’s tweet makes sense. There’s a lot of high school kids, for example, that go on tumbler/twitter and read about “trans” people and they see the attention they’re getting and suddenly they think they’re trans too
I think we’ve normalized the “treatment”. It’s really no different than someone saying “I FEEL like I shouldn’t have a left arm”, then doctors agree to lop it off so they can live their “authentic” self. The treatment should be “well, you are biologically a male, not female, so we are going to focus on you being male and help you to come to terms with that”.
But what tipped me off was how being trans takes over every single aspect of their life and becomes their entire identity. It’s also odd to see someone who is very obviously male believe they are female, and having people pretend like that is the reality.
Yeah, I've noticed that about LGBT generally. There's a few people where their sexual orientation is just one aspect of their identity. And then there are others who make it their COMPLETE identity.
Trans is even more far reaching. I used to be a crossdresser. I was tempted to transition at times, but I realized fully charging into something that could be an irreversible mistake was folly. (And now I gave the whole thing up completely. People can change)
Out of all the trans people I ever met, there was /one/ I can remember that actually was "passable." Some looked better than others, but you could nearly always tell. But the saddest were those that had the surgery and the whole nine yards and still resembled men in dresses. And not even wardrobe -- energy. The way they sit. The way they talk. They way they hold their hands. A million little cues that contradict what they're telling you they are.
I noticed society started to go sideways in the early 90s when hip hop and rap started to become more mainstream. Back at the time, I couldn’t quite put my finger on why, but the music always made me feel uneasy — like, I couldn’t connect with it, for some reason. Pretty clear in hindsight that the media has been playing a long game of gradually ushering in degeneracy through music and media.
Strangely, I feel like rap kind of, like, saved me from turning liberal/feminist. I'm a female and I was a teen in the 90's. Tipper Gore was the "Karen" who got the warning stickers put on CDs. In the meantime I was just over here listening to lyrics like "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" and I feel like it somehow inoculated me against blue-haired chicks crying "misogyny". IDK if that makes any sense.
Like they do with everything else that people LIKE. If you like a song, they want to ruin it. If you like a show, they want to ruin it. If you like a food they want to ruin it.
I think what this is really is that they want to utilize the "platform" of anything that gains social traction to push their bullshit ideology.
If it gains popularity, the leftist message is not far behind.
I disagree fully...where I fit on that chart is probably the same reason I’m HERE. I can’t say that I believe I’m remotely in the same category as trans.
Each of those are very, very different things and very, very different people.
Punk: people who don't like conventional life/thinking/style, who like being different (anti-pop culture). Note: most people claiming to be punk today are actually not, they just dress like 80's punks and listen to certain music because they think it's hip (basically hipsters but punk themed, see below), but everything else about them is conventional and supportive of totalitarianism.
Goth: people into despair, the color black, and all things unpleasant (anti-happy)
Emo/scene: people who grew up being told their feelings matter only to realize that they don't, so they're pretty upset about it/guys who like make-up and/or who are just trying to get with emo girls
Hipster: people who confuse dressing like retards with being fashion-conscious and/or people who feel morally superior to others based on their style of music and dress
Trans: people with body dysmorphia brought on by a genuine mental problem or by a desire for attention/acceptance/moral superiority/power within certain left-wing social circles.
I wouldn't call punk, goth or emo/scene people mentally disturbed.
When I was a teenager. Emo/scene kids were cringy as hell but not mentally disturbed. Goth kids, most of them were weirdos but not all. Still didn't seem mentally disturbed. Punk, I've met more mentally disturbed people in that group. However, the unstable ones were all what we would call "woke" today. Most of the based ones were good people, the few that weren't went on to become good people.
Only know one trans person. Old friend from school. Good guy. Shit I mean lady.
As far as I know "insert pronoun here" is sane excluding whatever body dysmorphic disorder made "insert pronoun here" want to be a girl. A nice person. Haven't talked to "insert pronoun here" in over a year now though so ""insert pronoun here" might have completely lost it without me knowing.
All those other people look back at old photos and laugh. The last group will look back and old photos and ask why they mutilated themselves and why they didn't seek professional help before destroying their lives.
This is 100% correct. The problem is modern kids don't have a way to release their teen angst so they bottle it up and being trans is cool (thanks Dems) so they lash out by coming out.
I read a really good book by a psychologist about the sudden massive rise in the trans movement and it basically goes along this line of thinking. I'll have to find it
Don’t forget tattoos, gauges and body modifications... they’re all basically the same people... it’s one big contest to ruin their bodies just to be the kings and queens of the nobodies.
I'd argue that emos fascination with cutting themselves and suicide could classify as damaging.
But yeah, what is the rate of people who detransition once the novelty wears off? I remember seeing a study that was looking at stuff like this get pulled.
Eh disagree about Punk though. Punk is mostly an anti-establishment, anti/limited government mindset/movement. Most of us here at TD and even Trump himself fit right into what Punk is about.
Yep! Punk was anti establishment before we even knew what it meant! lol
Yeah I did punk, but never went down the rest of the path of attention seekers, that seems like the main difference.
Most of the punks now are pro Biden lol. Ignoramuses
No they aren’t. Only the same socialist cucks that have always been leftists like NOFX, Anti-Flag, Greenday and Propagandhi. Others like Rancid are pro-America.
Check out The Interrupters!
I've had their songs: Liberty, Media Sensation, Title Fighter, and especially Outrage, on repeat for the last month. Listen to the lyrics and you'll know why.
My wife and I love the Interrupters! I first heard Aimee Allen way back in 2008 when she made a song about Ron Paul! I’ll be a fan for life.
Yeah fuck Fat Mike he’s a big dipshit. The first time I saw them was a show in a school gym, and they were selling “Fuck the PMRC” 45s. Now he’s all in with dem leftists who wanna control every aspect of our lives.
That's good to hear. I wasn't exposed to non commie punk back in the day, I didn't know the difference but something about the bands you listed there seemed way off and uninspired to me, they sound like they're trying to sound talentless
Anal Cunt - Rancid Sucks and The Clash Does Too
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Yeah, I hate being one of the only BASED people in the pop-punk community. All your friends will you chew you up and spit you out in a second once they figure out you're not a commie.
And forget about finding a girlfriend that wants to headbang to the same music as you AND love your country together.
That culture has seeped into “country” slowly. Go to Nashville and see for yourself.
Yikes!!! I've never explored Nashville pre-covid. I've only been there one time, this past summer, and it didn't seem like a very "country" town. Seemed very "default" city for the most part. I've been hearing concerns for a while now that country music is becoming cucked.
I think we have overarching problems. The Record Companies are getting woke and they're influencing the culture through music. It's part of why Rock music is also dying.
We need to fight for our music.... somehow. Unfortunately I can't write very good songs, or write songs at all, but something needs to be done.
Oy very! Who is it that owns the record companies again?
Most punks now are posers.
Punks is hippies
I know, it blows my fucking mind, kids I rolled with even. I realized they didn't see the big picture, and were just in it for the fun of it, hell even bands I used to be into that have now cucked out. Now this does give me a bit of "convincing power" if I play my cards right with these "punk" friends because they saw what I was and am still like, but it is still disappointing.
All of these groups began with the outcasts. Then it morphs into a fashion statement. Punk morphed into a popular trend.
I suppose you could've said I was a proto-goth back in the 80's. But by that time, punk was more popular.
When I grew out of my gloomy 'disaffected youth' phase I actually moved to punk. I cut off all of my hair and dyed it bright. Lots of band t-shirts. That was my 'happy, sociable" phase. That was in 89-90.
Then I picked up grunge before grunge had a name. It was pretty cool to watch the grunge scene develop in the 90's. Fashion finally caught up with ME!
What's hilarious is that my 'grunge-type' style wasn't a style. I just grew up in Wyoming and that's what people wore in the winter. Lots of plaid shirts overlaid t-shirts or thermal underwear. Jeans. Thick socks and boots. I kept my black leather wrist bands and bracelets from my punk days.
I think that my experience is why I didn't react at all to my kids' experimentation in their teen years. When my daughter went goth I just drove her to Hot Topic, then showed her ways to do a lot of that style economically. Off to the hardware store and the walmart pet department we went.
hahahah I forgot about the pet chains, I stole a 4foot chain from the pet store for my wallet, looked ridiculous. I kinda flowed between punk, techno, grunge, preppie depending on my mood, now as an adult I am, to my wife's dismay, in perpetual skater boy mode. I guess I was an attention seeker with my died hair and spikes, but the whole goth emo thing just wasn't for me.
My daughter is almost 30 now and she's horrified by today's 'goth.'
In her humble opinion, men and 'skinny jeans' do not go together. lol!
She's also pretty pissed by the makeup tutorials. "You weren't trying to LOOK pretty, dammit. You were trying to look SCARY!"
hahahaha
As a metalhead, I feel that metal has anti establishment roots as well. Quite a few guys in the scene are based but holy fuck there are a ton of cucks here now. Such fucking AIDS.
Leftists ruin every single thing they touch. What's left, Bluegrass? Even "Christian" music is FULL of cucks these days
Yup that’s where this went wrong. Punk does not fit.
I've met people who are both "woke" punk, and based punk. It's funny because the people in the last group got called skinheads and nazis. They were my friends. Not a single nazi among them lol
What about Pop-punk....... :)
that is a mental disorder, sorry.
What are your exact problems with the genre
I'm talking 2000's
My Chemical Romance/All TIme Low/Paramore/Fall Out Boy etc. Not any of what's being put out today.EDIT: I guess we can exclude MCR. They're more of a strict rock/emo band. But I always think of these bands in the same zeitgeist.
Paramore is pretty goood.
Until Hayley went full SJW and decided to go on a crusade against the song that put the band on the map, yeah xD.
Also I'm not too big on the direction they took after self-titled. Even after Brand New Eyes really. Paramore is 100% a pop band now, which I understand but I have to don't like.
What do you think?
am a 70's boomer, loved the old school punk, but then times change and so did I. Funny thing about me is, I love old punk but hate heavy metal. have never really been of a fan of pop either, hated when the clash went the pop route.
Fair fair.
My parents raised me on 80's hair metal and being a mid-90's kid I spent my childhood listening to Bowling For Soup/Green Day/Avril Lavigne etc., so the Rock that was on the radio at that time was what I got the most exposure to. I guess whatever was getting pumped onto TRL/MTV before that show and the channel went to shit.
I never knew The Clash went pop... will have to take a look at that.
I listen to Andrew Wilkow often and he always talks about The Ramones. I'm planning to do a deep dive into other pre-80's rock music after I finally get some free time so I can check out the earlier parts of the genre.
Can agree with you there. I'll call myself a metalhead but I don't get into the super heavy stuff.
I also think my exposure to Hair Metal kind of primed me for the Emo/Pop-punk movement, since there's some similarity between those genres. And there's definitely a some shared style between them too.
But that's just what I've dealt with. I completely respect older genres of rock and have kind of had to find whatever home I can in the cultures that have been around since I was born. And it's getting harder since rock is basically dead in 2020.
rock isnt dead yet.
also, give a listen to the first clash album, then listen to London Calling, you can see the pop influence. then listen to roch the casba, way too poppi for punk. pop and punk dont actually mix, which is why i refer pop punk to being a mental illness. the crazy thing about pretty much all punk bands is, their first albums are usually their best in terms of antisocial punkness, then they all start heading towards the pop genre to cash in. I guess record execs cant help but steer everyone towards what they think sells. I would also recommend having a listen to sex pistols great rock and roll swindle. absolute punk rock story.
Like the whole SJW trend, it's the Deep State capturing the youth cultures and politicizing them to destroy social capital.
I suspect the number of trans with legit diagnosable body dismorphia is a minority. For the rest, it's a fad.
Tbh, I used to not care about trans people. Didn't know TOO much about it as it wasn't a popular subject in college until a while after I was out/never knew any trans people in person, but I understood the gist. I thought calling it a mental illness was a little outrageous and I didn't think too much more of it beyond "i don't care what people want to do to themselves". When the trans military ban happened, out of curiosity I wanted to kind of learn more about trans people so i started watching trans youtubers (not in any specific category, just various trans people) to get some insight into how they think and all that. After a while of watching those, I started slowly realizing that my entire perception of these people was changing and the more i watched, the more I realized these people are absolutely fucking mentally ill. Again, I didn't conclude this because of muh right-wing propaganda influencing me, I literally watched trans people live/talk/show me whatever THEY chose to show me, and all it did was solidify the "trans is a mental illness" talking point that they all hate so much. Made me feel icky so i stopped watching but my conclusion has remained since.
Very odd experience.
The thing that made me against it was that they want to force people to play along with their belief system. Like it's fine if a man believes he's a woman or a woman believes he's a man, that doesn't affect me at all. What DOES affect me is them telling me that I have to believe it too, and pretend like a trans woman is no different than a biological woman. Why can't they just live life the way they want without forcing everyone else to abandon all established science regarding biological sex?
Ohhh yeah good point. Before my "revelation", when I thought of trans people, I like..."passing" trans people (again, very little personal experience to go off of lol). I always thought, "well, if they LOOK like whatever gender they say they are, who cares if they use X bathroom or want to be referred to as that gender, you wouldn't even know otherwise". Then the trans thing started blowing up and getting more and more popular and it became clear that most "trans" people are not passing. I moved to a new town a few years ago and there's several trans(?) people i've seen on a regular basis that are very obviously burly men in wigs/stuffed bras. At the bar I work at, just today one of them used the women's bathroom and it was very uncomfortable to observe. It doesn't feel right calling them by their ~preferred pronouns~. It's like seeing a cat and saying "oh, a cat!" and someone goes "nope, that's a dog. call it a dog.". ....but it's a cat?? It feels like your mind is playing tricks on your eyes. It's not natural and it's awkward to force.
This. They can go out larping as vampires for all I care, so long as the government isn't compelling me to play along.
This is my main issue as well. You can live in pretend fantasy land all you want, dont care. But that doesn’t mean I have to abide by your stupid pronouns or agree with your warped view of genders.
Also, if I wanted to chop an appendage to get a peg leg or a hook, because I identified as a pirate, people would call me crazy. But chopping off your dick? Totally sane... rigggghhhht?
All I knew was the porn stuff and Thailand lady boys, so I was like eh they just want to be chicks...but after reading shit on reddit, and even learning an ex friend is now trans and seeing what he posts, I lost it. There is so much drama to read about too, old trans hate new trans, a lot of lesbians and gays hate trans, a lot of trans hate lesbians because they won't accept their "girl dicks", wild shit, I could probably write a book about it all.
I think a lot of it has to do with attention, which is where Elijah’s tweet makes sense. There’s a lot of high school kids, for example, that go on tumbler/twitter and read about “trans” people and they see the attention they’re getting and suddenly they think they’re trans too
I met a few trans people in my time. (I was in the scene briefly, but never did anything permanent). Very few seemed well adjusted.
What tipped you off about the underlying illness?
The fact that they want to irreparably mutilate themselves and have a nearly 50% suicide rate over time?
I think we’ve normalized the “treatment”. It’s really no different than someone saying “I FEEL like I shouldn’t have a left arm”, then doctors agree to lop it off so they can live their “authentic” self. The treatment should be “well, you are biologically a male, not female, so we are going to focus on you being male and help you to come to terms with that”.
But what tipped me off was how being trans takes over every single aspect of their life and becomes their entire identity. It’s also odd to see someone who is very obviously male believe they are female, and having people pretend like that is the reality.
Yeah, I've noticed that about LGBT generally. There's a few people where their sexual orientation is just one aspect of their identity. And then there are others who make it their COMPLETE identity.
Trans is even more far reaching. I used to be a crossdresser. I was tempted to transition at times, but I realized fully charging into something that could be an irreversible mistake was folly. (And now I gave the whole thing up completely. People can change)
Out of all the trans people I ever met, there was /one/ I can remember that actually was "passable." Some looked better than others, but you could nearly always tell. But the saddest were those that had the surgery and the whole nine yards and still resembled men in dresses. And not even wardrobe -- energy. The way they sit. The way they talk. They way they hold their hands. A million little cues that contradict what they're telling you they are.
I noticed society started to go sideways in the early 90s when hip hop and rap started to become more mainstream. Back at the time, I couldn’t quite put my finger on why, but the music always made me feel uneasy — like, I couldn’t connect with it, for some reason. Pretty clear in hindsight that the media has been playing a long game of gradually ushering in degeneracy through music and media.
Strangely, I feel like rap kind of, like, saved me from turning liberal/feminist. I'm a female and I was a teen in the 90's. Tipper Gore was the "Karen" who got the warning stickers put on CDs. In the meantime I was just over here listening to lyrics like "bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks" and I feel like it somehow inoculated me against blue-haired chicks crying "misogyny". IDK if that makes any sense.
No, I'm a married mom of four!
Uhhh whats mgtow?
I think what this is really is that they want to utilize the "platform" of anything that gains social traction to push their bullshit ideology.
If it gains popularity, the leftist message is not far behind.
That's something I'm always thinking about. The music is part of this just as much as the news, big tech, etc.
Nice insight. I think the same way. It's clear there is direction behind the advancement of what is called pop culture.
trans people are actually mentally ill... like anorexia or the people who get a shit load of plastic surgeries... plus the are faggot and pedos
Its like being forced to agree with an anorexic and say yeah, you know, you really are fat. You should keep starving yourself.
A lot of them are indeed pedos. I'm glad they kill themselves in record numbers. We need to keep them away from childrne.
Where and how is this tracked / measured?
I disagree fully...where I fit on that chart is probably the same reason I’m HERE. I can’t say that I believe I’m remotely in the same category as trans.
Each of those are very, very different things and very, very different people.
Punk: people who don't like conventional life/thinking/style, who like being different (anti-pop culture). Note: most people claiming to be punk today are actually not, they just dress like 80's punks and listen to certain music because they think it's hip (basically hipsters but punk themed, see below), but everything else about them is conventional and supportive of totalitarianism.
Goth: people into despair, the color black, and all things unpleasant (anti-happy)
Emo/scene: people who grew up being told their feelings matter only to realize that they don't, so they're pretty upset about it/guys who like make-up and/or who are just trying to get with emo girls
Hipster: people who confuse dressing like retards with being fashion-conscious and/or people who feel morally superior to others based on their style of music and dress
Trans: people with body dysmorphia brought on by a genuine mental problem or by a desire for attention/acceptance/moral superiority/power within certain left-wing social circles.
I wouldn't call punk, goth or emo/scene people mentally disturbed. When I was a teenager. Emo/scene kids were cringy as hell but not mentally disturbed. Goth kids, most of them were weirdos but not all. Still didn't seem mentally disturbed. Punk, I've met more mentally disturbed people in that group. However, the unstable ones were all what we would call "woke" today. Most of the based ones were good people, the few that weren't went on to become good people.
Only know one trans person. Old friend from school. Good guy. Shit I mean lady. As far as I know "insert pronoun here" is sane excluding whatever body dysmorphic disorder made "insert pronoun here" want to be a girl. A nice person. Haven't talked to "insert pronoun here" in over a year now though so ""insert pronoun here" might have completely lost it without me knowing.
Yep. Hipsters.
A wild hipster has appeared and down-voted. He's just mad because he can't afford to get his tattoo of a handlebar mustache removed from his ankle.
Who the fuck is Elijah?
I was a Goth lol. Oh to be 13 again with a 17 year old GF who believed she was a Vampire with giant tits.
I grew up in the fucking best of times: Beepers, and Cell Phones the size of a bar of soap, and AOL.
Fucking amazing what can be destroyed in 23 years since.
Elijah is apparently a moron. Music types have nothing to do with people having gender dysphoria.
I like my hardcore, emo, indie music. This guy can piss right off.
Are you saying Trans isn't a music genre? Don't assume my genre.
He strongly supports the owner of brc as well
I was a hipster kind of like Gavin Mcinnes, I kind of still am
He’s right tho
Easy there Elijah, Punk rockers were and are BASED af.
Paging Johnny Rotten!
That's stupid AF. Fashion isn't the same as mental disease. So why alienate all these people by associating them to body dismorphia victims?
Hang the fuck on. These were music culture fads and have nothing to do with genital mutilating wierdos.
I honestly don't give a shit about trannies harming or killing themselves
All those other people look back at old photos and laugh. The last group will look back and old photos and ask why they mutilated themselves and why they didn't seek professional help before destroying their lives.
In ten years, you'll miss the good old days of trannies, as compared to what they have then.
I was a punk rocker in the 80's, we fucking loved guns and hated commies and we turned out American as fuck.
I mean. He's not too wrong about the "not fitting in" thing. But I also mostly like Emo just because the music fucking Rocks.
You can't tell me My Chemical Romance isn't one of the BEST Rock bands that's existed since the 80s ended.
My daughter was goth. Not mentally ill.
And she fit in with the zillion other Hot Topic goths of the time. lol!
It starts with the outcasts, then always becomes a trend. This is why the frustrated outcasts have to keep reinventing themselves.
That be acorat
As an ex punk I do not want to be lumped in with those other groups!
Spicy.
i know right!? those damn misguided hipsters with all those tattoos ad stretched out earlobes!!!
oh, you meant the whole men chopping off their dicks and women chopping of their breasts? yeah definitely a big change lol.
This is 100% correct. The problem is modern kids don't have a way to release their teen angst so they bottle it up and being trans is cool (thanks Dems) so they lash out by coming out.
I read a really good book by a psychologist about the sudden massive rise in the trans movement and it basically goes along this line of thinking. I'll have to find it
No permanent damage? Sure, those gauged earlobes will just snap right back into place.
Don’t forget tattoos, gauges and body modifications... they’re all basically the same people... it’s one big contest to ruin their bodies just to be the kings and queens of the nobodies.
I'm proudly hipster and a Trump supporter. Can't help it if I like flannel and craft beer.
I was someone that never fitted in but never subscribed to any of these trends other than a Member Only jacket are 1 pair off brand parachute pants.
Grunge was kinda my jam in the 90s but I never bought music because I knew it would be digital eventually.
I'd argue that emos fascination with cutting themselves and suicide could classify as damaging. But yeah, what is the rate of people who detransition once the novelty wears off? I remember seeing a study that was looking at stuff like this get pulled.
Well, you can still get some nasty tattoos on your face....
He's right you know