Anyone know what the penalty of breaking this would be? Want to start getting lawyers prepped for this and I'm in a state with a shitty blue strangle hold on it.
UNESCO is the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.
They could vote for a resolution condemning the US for violating people’s rights by forcing people to be vaccinated against their will, but let’s be serious - why would they do that when they will all be trying to vaccinate people against their will too?
Except it isnt an experiment or study which is exactly what this dictates. Also medical treatment is forced on people all the time and no one cares. It's usually mental health treatment but even so.
Employment is the big problem here... I could say a solid “fuck you” to airlines and enjoy our beautiful country by car for the rest of my life, but I can’t do that to my income
Consent can be withdrawn without disadvantage or prejudice; unless of course they want to be using the same logic as nazi’s. Literally the same logic as nazi’s.
Think of it this way; after calling us nazi’s; we can now call them nazi’s and prove it.
If they people in charge aren’t held accountable then they will make up whatever twisted justification they want for their actions.
“The Jews are risk to national security!” —autocrat
I don’t think it’s right and don’t like any of it. The governors are using emergency powers to trample the constitution for a virus that’s not deadlier than influenza.
The LNP-mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are basically vaccines on demands. The manufacturing is nothing like prior vaccine production and the safety profile is generally recognized as safe. In fact the LNP in the vaccines were FDA approved in 1996. The RNA segment is just a genetic code that tells your body what to make an Ab to. It breaks down naturally with cellular enzymes.
The vaccines are not fully elucidated and optimized. But that is something you'd want to do to try and find other uses like cancer vaccines. Otherwise durability, how long you're protected from infectious is unknown. Considering its a virus, it will likely need to be a seasonal injection to maintain high enough Ab during the flu season.
At the end of the day, get an RNA vaccine and protect yourself as soon as you can so we can all go back to normal.
No. Fuck off, after we cleanse the NWO from the face of this planet and make membership or participation in secret societies a disqualifier for goverment officials we can get back to normal. Otherwise it will never happen. I won't be held hostage with the promise of "normal."
I’ll pass for now. In a few years I’ll probably be fine with it, who knows. I’m not anti vax by stretch but I’m not comfortable with the way this one is being forced on me and I am not comfortable with the threat of not being able to travel etc unless I take it. It feels quite bullying and I don’t like it. I would be a lot more comfortable if it were not being pushed the way it is. As for someone else deciding what is good for me and the whole “we can get back to normal” if we do what we are told. It’s that exact messaging that is putting off. In addition I have an underlying heart condition and the side effects that are “not a walk in the park” are a real problem for me. The delivery of this and the messaging could hardly be worse.
Why would I trust a vaccine from manufacturers that are protected from being sued, even if it gets me killed, and still haven't gotten better than a 50% failure rate with the flu?
Also, if this does mutate every year - actually, scratch that - the truth doesn't matter. We're not going back to normal. There's no normal now.
The vaccine isn't enough. The mask isn't enough. It'll never be enough. Just like every other road of power - the next "step" just isn't enough.
Inaccurate. The moment you see market surveillance or post acceptance surveillance you have documented evidence that they continue to monitor for side effects; in essence saying that they are still testing just on a much larger scale.
I think pushing the vaccine on us could be what finally wakes all the normies up. Reasonable people, regardless of political leanings, will definitely see this as an overreach and will push back hard....just like those peaceful Danes.
You’d think election fraud “would finally wake up all the normies.” Or transgender story hour. Or fisa spying. Or covid shutdowns. Nah, man... some of them will jump off a cliff if the news tells them it’ll help the environment. They prefer to die “virtuous” and will never open their eyes. It’s too scary for them.
... none of those things are forcing anyone to put anything in their bodies. Those "my body my choice" types will have a very hard time reconciling this. I've got plenty of liberal friends who are against taking the vaccine. These same friends have also shown more interest in firearms ownership. Clown world indeed.
Some people will want the vaccine. You will witness first hand the effect of trauma based mind control.
They will be made to fear and the vaccine is the only release from the fear so they will vivaciously attack people that resist the vaccine.
Rather than attack the person, attack their fear. The fear mongering of covid has been significant, so it will be a challenge to demonstrate to them that covid is not something that should terrify them.
Focus on how they have been manipulated and don’t they feel shame for being so gullible.
I dunno. Plenty of people have gotten the regular flu vaccine including Trump supporters. Wanting it and having no choice are two totally different things.
And vocally denigrating any company that pushes vaccines. Like qantus airlines out of Australia. They want vaccines for all airline passengers. They should be hounded out of business.
The Nuremberg Code has not been officially accepted as law by any nation or as official ethics guidelines by any association. In fact, the Code's reference to Hippocratic duty to the individual patient and the need to provide information was not initially favored by the American Medical Association. The Western world initially dismissed the Nuremberg Code as a "code for barbarians" and not for civilized physicians and investigators. Additionally, the final judgment did not specify whether the Nuremberg Code should be applied to cases such as political prisoners, convicted felons, and healthy volunteers. The lack of clarity, the brutality of the unethical medical experiments, and the uncompromising language of the Nuremberg Code created an image that the Code was designed for singularly egregious transgressions.[12]
I love how from the left when it comes to abortion, my body my choice is a legit argument. But when it comes to Covid and vaccines, it's not a legit argument. Yet, the former actually does potentially harm at least one lied (let alone the man who helped make that life) and costs quiie a lot of money. The latter costs no money (ie deciding not to wear a mask or take a vaccine) and very rarely directly harms another life.
They'll say it's optional and not mandatory. They'll also forbid you from working and travelling unless you have one. Then the "mark of the beast" (microchips) that "conspiritards" have been warning us about for 50 years will come out.
They’ll abuse emergency powers and push it through illegally then muck up the court proceedings so the hand slapping comes too late.
Nah, they aren't 'forcing' you to do it. It'll just be a condition of your employment, travel, and ability to live in society.
“Consent ... may be withdrawn by any person for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice”
Condition of employment/travel/entering a business sounds an awful lot like “disadvantage and prejudice”
Anyone know what the penalty of breaking this would be? Want to start getting lawyers prepped for this and I'm in a state with a shitty blue strangle hold on it.
I don’t think any of this is binding.
UNESCO is the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization.
They could vote for a resolution condemning the US for violating people’s rights by forcing people to be vaccinated against their will, but let’s be serious - why would they do that when they will all be trying to vaccinate people against their will too?
IANAL though.
The UNESCO charter is not a legally enforceable document. As far as I have been able to find it has not been ratified by any national government.
So it’s a strong moral argument. Legal arguments will need other foundations.
Except it isnt an experiment or study which is exactly what this dictates. Also medical treatment is forced on people all the time and no one cares. It's usually mental health treatment but even so.
True, it’s also UN which is laughable non binding bullshit.
If they actually try this, I will be getting into the forging business - I bet fake covid IDs will sell for bank!
Employment is the big problem here... I could say a solid “fuck you” to airlines and enjoy our beautiful country by car for the rest of my life, but I can’t do that to my income
Ask about liability for adverse reactions.
If work is compelling you to take the vaccine then the adverse reaction should be a work related injury.
Which begs another question: will they threaten S.S. cheques for retired/seniors, take the 'shot' or no money?
Consent can be withdrawn without disadvantage or prejudice; unless of course they want to be using the same logic as nazi’s. Literally the same logic as nazi’s.
Think of it this way; after calling us nazi’s; we can now call them nazi’s and prove it.
So the nazi’s were ok to experiment on Jews because it was an emergency?
If they people in charge aren’t held accountable then they will make up whatever twisted justification they want for their actions.
“The Jews are risk to national security!” —autocrat
I don’t think it’s right and don’t like any of it. The governors are using emergency powers to trample the constitution for a virus that’s not deadlier than influenza.
This is trauma based mind control.
Make people fear, then tell them you will save them if only they follow your plan.
And millions of people buy into it
They’re going to try and argue that it has been tested and is not experimental.
I'll ask for the 5 years worth of data to support that safety claim.
The LNP-mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are basically vaccines on demands. The manufacturing is nothing like prior vaccine production and the safety profile is generally recognized as safe. In fact the LNP in the vaccines were FDA approved in 1996. The RNA segment is just a genetic code that tells your body what to make an Ab to. It breaks down naturally with cellular enzymes.
The vaccines are not fully elucidated and optimized. But that is something you'd want to do to try and find other uses like cancer vaccines. Otherwise durability, how long you're protected from infectious is unknown. Considering its a virus, it will likely need to be a seasonal injection to maintain high enough Ab during the flu season.
At the end of the day, get an RNA vaccine and protect yourself as soon as you can so we can all go back to normal.
No. Fuck off, after we cleanse the NWO from the face of this planet and make membership or participation in secret societies a disqualifier for goverment officials we can get back to normal. Otherwise it will never happen. I won't be held hostage with the promise of "normal."
I’ll pass for now. In a few years I’ll probably be fine with it, who knows. I’m not anti vax by stretch but I’m not comfortable with the way this one is being forced on me and I am not comfortable with the threat of not being able to travel etc unless I take it. It feels quite bullying and I don’t like it. I would be a lot more comfortable if it were not being pushed the way it is. As for someone else deciding what is good for me and the whole “we can get back to normal” if we do what we are told. It’s that exact messaging that is putting off. In addition I have an underlying heart condition and the side effects that are “not a walk in the park” are a real problem for me. The delivery of this and the messaging could hardly be worse.
Why would I trust a vaccine from manufacturers that are protected from being sued, even if it gets me killed, and still haven't gotten better than a 50% failure rate with the flu?
Also, if this does mutate every year - actually, scratch that - the truth doesn't matter. We're not going back to normal. There's no normal now.
The vaccine isn't enough. The mask isn't enough. It'll never be enough. Just like every other road of power - the next "step" just isn't enough.
Inaccurate. The moment you see market surveillance or post acceptance surveillance you have documented evidence that they continue to monitor for side effects; in essence saying that they are still testing just on a much larger scale.
Agreed. That’s why I said “try” to argue.
bad news guys, the court has already ruled mandatory vaccines are legally enforceable, they did it with the spanish flu. I guess I am a criminal.
You kind of defeat the point when you follow up with UNESCO, the very agency that will be administering it!
It’s an excellent arguement to make especially when dealing with globalists.
Do they trust their globalist organizations? Ok don’t be a nazi and force people into medical experiments.
You do not trust globalists? Great! A new fren!
;)
I think pushing the vaccine on us could be what finally wakes all the normies up. Reasonable people, regardless of political leanings, will definitely see this as an overreach and will push back hard....just like those peaceful Danes.
You’d think election fraud “would finally wake up all the normies.” Or transgender story hour. Or fisa spying. Or covid shutdowns. Nah, man... some of them will jump off a cliff if the news tells them it’ll help the environment. They prefer to die “virtuous” and will never open their eyes. It’s too scary for them.
People are waking up. With each new outrage more people wake up.
Keep you spirits up, because once a person wakes up, they normally stay awake and begin to see all the other manipulations as well.
... none of those things are forcing anyone to put anything in their bodies. Those "my body my choice" types will have a very hard time reconciling this. I've got plenty of liberal friends who are against taking the vaccine. These same friends have also shown more interest in firearms ownership. Clown world indeed.
Some people will want the vaccine. You will witness first hand the effect of trauma based mind control.
They will be made to fear and the vaccine is the only release from the fear so they will vivaciously attack people that resist the vaccine.
Rather than attack the person, attack their fear. The fear mongering of covid has been significant, so it will be a challenge to demonstrate to them that covid is not something that should terrify them.
Focus on how they have been manipulated and don’t they feel shame for being so gullible.
I dunno. Plenty of people have gotten the regular flu vaccine including Trump supporters. Wanting it and having no choice are two totally different things.
or in this case wanting it and wanting to force everyone else to have it too
It falls on number 1 of second section
Must be prepared to form mass boycotts of businesses trying to enforce this. Voting with our feet will be critical on this issue.
And vocally denigrating any company that pushes vaccines. Like qantus airlines out of Australia. They want vaccines for all airline passengers. They should be hounded out of business.
I don't think the US ever signed up for this.
Nuremburg? Not sure about that.
From Wiki:
The Nuremberg Code has not been officially accepted as law by any nation or as official ethics guidelines by any association. In fact, the Code's reference to Hippocratic duty to the individual patient and the need to provide information was not initially favored by the American Medical Association. The Western world initially dismissed the Nuremberg Code as a "code for barbarians" and not for civilized physicians and investigators. Additionally, the final judgment did not specify whether the Nuremberg Code should be applied to cases such as political prisoners, convicted felons, and healthy volunteers. The lack of clarity, the brutality of the unethical medical experiments, and the uncompromising language of the Nuremberg Code created an image that the Code was designed for singularly egregious transgressions.[12]
Still useful for asserting that the druggies are also nazi’s.
And vice versa. They loved their Pervitin.
I love how from the left when it comes to abortion, my body my choice is a legit argument. But when it comes to Covid and vaccines, it's not a legit argument. Yet, the former actually does potentially harm at least one lied (let alone the man who helped make that life) and costs quiie a lot of money. The latter costs no money (ie deciding not to wear a mask or take a vaccine) and very rarely directly harms another life.
My body my choice is an effective argument to use.
It places people in a place to either disavow belief in that argument and then transition to abortion discussion :)
Or reaffirm their belief in that statement and then push hard on the vaccine choice discussion.
I know an anti vaxxer family who couldn't be bothered to vote. Enjoy your cocktail!
That’s why it’s used as a moral argument, not as the basis of a legal argument.
Shame them for doing something we convicted the nazi’s of doing.
When it comes to court, different arguments apply.
They'll say it's optional and not mandatory. They'll also forbid you from working and travelling unless you have one. Then the "mark of the beast" (microchips) that "conspiritards" have been warning us about for 50 years will come out.
Inb4 gTfO dOoMeR
Well 1 is bullshit. Essentially any mental health "treatment" i.e prison, can be forced on you by a doctor. But but they could be a danger to...
Does it list any exceptions? No. It does not. Therefore it's clear the US doesn't listen to this shit.
Wow! It's almost like you ignored the word EXPERIMENT all 20 times it was mentioned.