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KajensAngel 11 points ago +11 / -0

They’re going to try and argue that it has been tested and is not experimental.

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paulej 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'll ask for the 5 years worth of data to support that safety claim.

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OwlsExterminator 1 point ago +1 / -0

The LNP-mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are basically vaccines on demands. The manufacturing is nothing like prior vaccine production and the safety profile is generally recognized as safe. In fact the LNP in the vaccines were FDA approved in 1996. The RNA segment is just a genetic code that tells your body what to make an Ab to. It breaks down naturally with cellular enzymes.

The vaccines are not fully elucidated and optimized. But that is something you'd want to do to try and find other uses like cancer vaccines. Otherwise durability, how long you're protected from infectious is unknown. Considering its a virus, it will likely need to be a seasonal injection to maintain high enough Ab during the flu season.

At the end of the day, get an RNA vaccine and protect yourself as soon as you can so we can all go back to normal.

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

No. Fuck off, after we cleanse the NWO from the face of this planet and make membership or participation in secret societies a disqualifier for goverment officials we can get back to normal. Otherwise it will never happen. I won't be held hostage with the promise of "normal."

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KajensAngel 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ll pass for now. In a few years I’ll probably be fine with it, who knows. I’m not anti vax by stretch but I’m not comfortable with the way this one is being forced on me and I am not comfortable with the threat of not being able to travel etc unless I take it. It feels quite bullying and I don’t like it. I would be a lot more comfortable if it were not being pushed the way it is. As for someone else deciding what is good for me and the whole “we can get back to normal” if we do what we are told. It’s that exact messaging that is putting off. In addition I have an underlying heart condition and the side effects that are “not a walk in the park” are a real problem for me. The delivery of this and the messaging could hardly be worse.

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ThunderSizzle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why would I trust a vaccine from manufacturers that are protected from being sued, even if it gets me killed, and still haven't gotten better than a 50% failure rate with the flu?

Also, if this does mutate every year - actually, scratch that - the truth doesn't matter. We're not going back to normal. There's no normal now.

The vaccine isn't enough. The mask isn't enough. It'll never be enough. Just like every other road of power - the next "step" just isn't enough.

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krypt0 1 point ago +1 / -0

Inaccurate. The moment you see market surveillance or post acceptance surveillance you have documented evidence that they continue to monitor for side effects; in essence saying that they are still testing just on a much larger scale.

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KajensAngel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed. That’s why I said “try” to argue.