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I would say the one the globalists set up today is way worse than anything Goebles attempted. The social networks that basically unperson anyone that is a threat combined with a non stop completely false narrative by the media gives them the ability to project a completely false reality to the average person not involved at all with politics.
From personal experience, there are at least a few there on our side. Definitely at Facebook.
Possibly even at Twitter.
I couldn't personally stomach it anymore, but we owe a debt to those who can. People exist inside that are doing what they can, leaking what they can, recording what they can. Tech giants are very very good at monitoring their employees, so this is harder than it sounds.
The fact that we even know that "shadow profiles" exist at Facebook is thanks to those who stay on the inside. The fact that we know private messages are being monitored for "misinformation" is thanks to people on the inside. The fact that any argument at all occurs against their censorship (some does) is because if people on the inside.
Don't assume that every employee at these big tech companies is on the same page as the CEOs. It's true that many are, but many more are not, and choose to stick around nonetheless because at least they can influence in some small way.
Its funny.. i never realized when google and facebook were setting up these massive data centers in other countries that it was to keep them protected from real americans. I thought it was bc of pricing or other normal factors.. not to protect their infrastructure from real americans if they rose up to take the tech tyrants down. It also gives them the ability to relocate their headquarters if America did wake up and decide to neuter these piece of shit traitors. This gives them the ability to float wherever the laws allow them to destroy america with the least amount of pushback. Right now they have bought off the repub and dems to completely allow them to destroy america.
Price was the number one factor in their location originally. That distance from us just so happens to be a happy accident. Some of the most expensive data centers ever built are located here in th US.
This is not entirely true. Around the time world governments discovered they lacked technical skill to intercept messages sent to blackberries there were many announcement of new data centers rolled out to different countries as a condition of allowing their population to interact with the services.
But yeah, no. Trials and court martials are niceties for when we have a functioning republic. When we no longer have a voice in the system all that goes out the window.
I don't think repealing it completely is a good idea - it would completely destroy social media (including this website) and make it much more difficult (if not impossible) for people to freely exchange information through internet communities. Normies would turn to mainstream media for their information again. This would not be a net improvement over our current situation since we would just be exchanging one globalist information gatekeeper for another.
The best solution would be to limit sec. 230 protections to small companies (sub 10 million annual revenue) so that people can still freely post and exchange info on sites like this one, while cutting off the nuts of all the censorious big tech social media companies. That would effectively break up the industry into tiny pieces and give everyone a lot of social media choices (so that a couple of major players don't wind up controlling everything).
TL:DR; trust-bust the Silicon Valley social media cartel.
Just change the words "otherwise objectionable" to "otherwise illegal." Boom, problem solved. If Twitter blocks legal content it becomes a cut and dry test showing they're publishers and can be sued.
what should happen is enterprises over a certain size (all enterprises, with no disqualifying clause) as well as small enterprises that violate the principles of free speech while operating as public discussion platforms (only small enterprise have this clause, or nonprofit), should lose the protections.
at a certain size (google, amazon) you're making enough money you dont need the protections, and are in too much of a position to abuse them.
non-profits might be exempt, but only under the same restrictions as small-enterprises -- a violation of trust could constitute actual jail time + heavy fines for anyone acting in executive roles at the company or nonprofit.
this would make it so that if you or I open a discussion forum its still 230 protected, we arent responsible for some nutjob or something infringing some asshole posted given fair and equitable moderation on our part.
at the same time, large entities would not be able to do this.
Its actually fair because it keeps internet discussion free, allows for business in a non-denominational manner, and prevents the conditions for making internet discussion non-free to occur again.
We need open platform immunity, but Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc have all shown they are not mature enough to handle that public trust so they need to be stripped. Keep immunity for other open platforms that aren't going to curate based on politics, personal beliefs, or bribes.
Section 230 could even remain but the current tech giants need to be stripped of it permanently. Sites like this one and thousands of others should be left alone. Anything that is the public square with hundreds of millions of users should be held to a higher standard. Anything of that size and influence should be mandated to have zero foreign investors or foreign government influence too.
Never gonna happen. Senator Cruz and Jordan talk big big games. But they won't bring them in to testify under oath. The only one who would do anything is Trump, and I'm not sure what he can do.
In all likelihood, it's the blue haired/check marks reporting the accounts en mass as soon as they have a target via name drop from the hearings. The algorithms will then automatically be locking out these accounts. It's unlikely that somebody from Twitter is doing this manually.
It's not about privacy. It's about my freedom. First as a human being, and second as an American: to speak my mind.
The First Amendment is important. These digital platforms have replaced the phone. They've replaced the newspaper. They've even replaced the town square. If we don't have freedom of speech in the town square, we don't have real freedom of speech.
When you promote your product as a free speech platform and you testify under oath that you aren't biased in banning accounts and then you only ban and silence conservatives for reasons not even comparable to the psychotics on the Left. Get fucked. Swing.
Yes, but I'm sure we'd love to see it all flattened. Then we can sell the brick and mortar for aggregate, and recycle any metal. I'm environmentally friendly. :)
They're practicing right now, if Jou Bai Den and Commie Harris get in power then it will be exactly like Chyna. People who speak out against them will be silenced and disappeared somewhere for "re-education" on "Unity", they'll probably justify the disappearance by saying they had covid pro plus and they needed to take them to a special facility for isolation and to update their vaccine passport. It will be the same fascist state with an elite class that rules over everyone once they buy up all the property and businesses that get tanked from Chyna Virus shutdowns.
Only seems to go in one direction, and that's because it's not an algorithm. It's a group of backroom losers doing mass reports to get the accounts flagged by rules lawyering terms of service. Then twitter bans them for 12 hours or whatever.
If you are big enough you can get the media to raise questions, and you get the "sorry this was banned by mistake just an algorithm". Otherwise it's too bad for you, good luck with your appeal you will lose because technically maybe you did say the right combination of words that violates something.
No they are not... they are filled to the rafters with Commie traitors!
... I've never had my Rights infringed by a server. You are 100% correct about data centers, controlling our infastructure and taking out theirs when the time comes.
But my main concern is dealing with the real problem in our country (which is not infastructure).
Many large companies have 100 different contingency plans for disaster recovery. They could likely spin up their whole website on amazon cloud or azure cloud services within hours. Seize the domains along with network core layers and the site is unavailable to everyone.
then destroy all server farms to not leave anything salvageable
Data centers and a few key staff then. What are the names and titles of those people in a tech company?
Their reliance on always on electricity is an obvious weakness but it is balanced by the damage done to innocents that are just as reliant on electricity.
Twitter hasn’t disclosed publicly where its data centers are located, but according to various reports over the years (including some by Data Center Knowledge), the company has leased large amounts of data center space from RagingWire in Sacramento, California, and from QTS Realty in Atlanta Metro
you seize the domain through a subpoena to master dns controllers
you seize the network core layer by locating their network infrastructure and taking out their "backbone" of the network, lots of routers and other physical network devices
If you're of the chattering "woke" classes your feelings are recognized by the courts and media as evidence. If you're of the deporable class no sworn testimony or deposition can be accepted.
Yet if you observe this site half of the posts send traffic directly to Twitter?
What the fuck.
You can swap in nitter.net in place of twitter.com in a link and see the tweet and reaponses AND deny Twitter money, tracking, and shadow banning content.
Congress has no teeth to get Dorsey and Zuckerberg in line. These social media giants have lost their protections by becoming arbiters of information, thereby becoming publishers. Sue them!
It’s the Twitter Truman show for all - Twitter is a network used to control and sway public opinion - they have decided to create a false reality in pursuit of their commie utopian concept for all - we must create a new network where everyone is opted in by default - a free network - free speech - free reality - twitter’s power is in its scale, , ease of accessibility and immediacy - we can do better!
Parler is a Twitter alternative. I dont like Twitter, so I dont use it because I prefer more than a sound byte interaction with people...but it works - does exactly what Twitter does, and its growing. If you like that form of social media I highly recommend checking it out.
I know all the big accounts have set up Parler accounts but they need to just suck it up and dump Twitter all together. Short term loss of “views” but long term gain of FREEDOM.
Imagine the communist twinks that are doing this sht in the belly of big tech if hollow eyed fire teams are called upon to assault their compounds like what happened at Scytl. The glory of that visual......
If they won, then why do they care? Why cancel someone who, if false, would be immediately demonstrably disproven? The [chicom/technocrat/oligarchs] doth protest too much, methinks. How many times can they do this before we hold them accountable?
Them and the media. Cant spread propaganda about how we are the bad guys without them.
I would say the one the globalists set up today is way worse than anything Goebles attempted. The social networks that basically unperson anyone that is a threat combined with a non stop completely false narrative by the media gives them the ability to project a completely false reality to the average person not involved at all with politics.
i fear you're correct
Quarter is neither asked, nor given. When the software running the body is that corrupt, you can't really reprogram the mind. It's lost. So bye bye.
From personal experience, there are at least a few there on our side. Definitely at Facebook. Possibly even at Twitter.
I couldn't personally stomach it anymore, but we owe a debt to those who can. People exist inside that are doing what they can, leaking what they can, recording what they can. Tech giants are very very good at monitoring their employees, so this is harder than it sounds.
The fact that we even know that "shadow profiles" exist at Facebook is thanks to those who stay on the inside. The fact that we know private messages are being monitored for "misinformation" is thanks to people on the inside. The fact that any argument at all occurs against their censorship (some does) is because if people on the inside.
Don't assume that every employee at these big tech companies is on the same page as the CEOs. It's true that many are, but many more are not, and choose to stick around nonetheless because at least they can influence in some small way.
I don't think it's likely that many more are not on their side. Some, sure. But the majority? Or even "many"? No way.
Drawns and Quarters
Its funny.. i never realized when google and facebook were setting up these massive data centers in other countries that it was to keep them protected from real americans. I thought it was bc of pricing or other normal factors.. not to protect their infrastructure from real americans if they rose up to take the tech tyrants down. It also gives them the ability to relocate their headquarters if America did wake up and decide to neuter these piece of shit traitors. This gives them the ability to float wherever the laws allow them to destroy america with the least amount of pushback. Right now they have bought off the repub and dems to completely allow them to destroy america.
Price was the number one factor in their location originally. That distance from us just so happens to be a happy accident. Some of the most expensive data centers ever built are located here in th US.
This is not entirely true. Around the time world governments discovered they lacked technical skill to intercept messages sent to blackberries there were many announcement of new data centers rolled out to different countries as a condition of allowing their population to interact with the services.
They wised up pretty fast after that.
They need to meet a coordinated squad at each Datacenter of killdozers.
Don't burn them down. Collect all of the evidence so they can be court martialed
smh
He said court martial, not trial.
But yeah, no. Trials and court martials are niceties for when we have a functioning republic. When we no longer have a voice in the system all that goes out the window.
Summary executions, we don't need to spend time hearing their excuses
Maybe Trump is right to repeal 230. I want to see Twitter disappear immediately. Along with Facebook. Fuck all of them.
He is absolutely within his right to repeal it. They're abusing way too much power.
There's a nice fence around the White House to stick em on. Folks can get their pictures with em.
I don't think repealing it completely is a good idea - it would completely destroy social media (including this website) and make it much more difficult (if not impossible) for people to freely exchange information through internet communities. Normies would turn to mainstream media for their information again. This would not be a net improvement over our current situation since we would just be exchanging one globalist information gatekeeper for another.
The best solution would be to limit sec. 230 protections to small companies (sub 10 million annual revenue) so that people can still freely post and exchange info on sites like this one, while cutting off the nuts of all the censorious big tech social media companies. That would effectively break up the industry into tiny pieces and give everyone a lot of social media choices (so that a couple of major players don't wind up controlling everything).
TL:DR; trust-bust the Silicon Valley social media cartel.
Just change the words "otherwise objectionable" to "otherwise illegal." Boom, problem solved. If Twitter blocks legal content it becomes a cut and dry test showing they're publishers and can be sued.
I would be fine with that.
what should happen is enterprises over a certain size (all enterprises, with no disqualifying clause) as well as small enterprises that violate the principles of free speech while operating as public discussion platforms (only small enterprise have this clause, or nonprofit), should lose the protections.
at a certain size (google, amazon) you're making enough money you dont need the protections, and are in too much of a position to abuse them.
non-profits might be exempt, but only under the same restrictions as small-enterprises -- a violation of trust could constitute actual jail time + heavy fines for anyone acting in executive roles at the company or nonprofit.
this would make it so that if you or I open a discussion forum its still 230 protected, we arent responsible for some nutjob or something infringing some asshole posted given fair and equitable moderation on our part.
at the same time, large entities would not be able to do this.
Its actually fair because it keeps internet discussion free, allows for business in a non-denominational manner, and prevents the conditions for making internet discussion non-free to occur again.
When you are the size of any of these megacorps you should lose most legal protections anyway.
Serious question
Was America better in 1995 or now?
The country as a whole was better off back then, but as far as being informed was concerned it was vastly worse. We were much more ignorant back then.
We need open platform immunity, but Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc have all shown they are not mature enough to handle that public trust so they need to be stripped. Keep immunity for other open platforms that aren't going to curate based on politics, personal beliefs, or bribes.
Section 230 could even remain but the current tech giants need to be stripped of it permanently. Sites like this one and thousands of others should be left alone. Anything that is the public square with hundreds of millions of users should be held to a higher standard. Anything of that size and influence should be mandated to have zero foreign investors or foreign government influence too.
He needs to do it now by executive order, this is a national security threat. It's Chinese propaganda being pushed on US Citizens.
Never gonna happen. Senator Cruz and Jordan talk big big games. But they won't bring them in to testify under oath. The only one who would do anything is Trump, and I'm not sure what he can do.
Hawley is badass too, but so far, it's all talk.
Shut down their servers by taking out colocation centers they contract with.
They're a PAC, just like facebook.
I look forward to Jack Dorsey's public execution for treason.
His head needs to be crushed like a cantaloupe in the streets if a Civil War were to break out.
He's really been nailing that "dragged through the streets like a middle eastern dictator" look recently.
If it goes over, you won't have to touch the beard.
It’ll be just like gadaffis execution
In all likelihood, it's the blue haired/check marks reporting the accounts en mass as soon as they have a target via name drop from the hearings. The algorithms will then automatically be locking out these accounts. It's unlikely that somebody from Twitter is doing this manually.
This is a good point, it's likely the mob abusing the report function. They're not coping well lol
No amount of mass reporting got any death treaths toward conservatives banned.
Dan Bongino brought up a great point a few days ago.
When I talk on the phone, I can say whatever I want, and an operator doesn't disconnect me once I start saying something 'unacceptable'.
The Big Tech platforms have to treat their 'product' (yes the product is 'us') in the same way.
Hmm, thinking about it, they will not change. Got to start over, somehow.
It's not about privacy. It's about my freedom. First as a human being, and second as an American: to speak my mind.
The First Amendment is important. These digital platforms have replaced the phone. They've replaced the newspaper. They've even replaced the town square. If we don't have freedom of speech in the town square, we don't have real freedom of speech.
ok, replace the phone call with standing on a street corner. the same rules should apply.
Privacy is not a stipulation of free speech though.
When you promote your product as a free speech platform and you testify under oath that you aren't biased in banning accounts and then you only ban and silence conservatives for reasons not even comparable to the psychotics on the Left. Get fucked. Swing.
Twitter had them all crucified for heresy against the Ɲew World Order.
A pleasing sacrifice to Moloch.
Silicone Valley needs a good bulldozing. A CAT D11, followed by a CAT 836K.
You eliminate data centers, you break the wheel.
Yes, but I'm sure we'd love to see it all flattened. Then we can sell the brick and mortar for aggregate, and recycle any metal. I'm environmentally friendly. :)
Well, silicon valley does. Remember, silicon is not silicone because silicone is rubber material
Just think of all the playground flooring we can make from the ruins.
They're practicing right now, if Jou Bai Den and Commie Harris get in power then it will be exactly like Chyna. People who speak out against them will be silenced and disappeared somewhere for "re-education" on "Unity", they'll probably justify the disappearance by saying they had covid pro plus and they needed to take them to a special facility for isolation and to update their vaccine passport. It will be the same fascist state with an elite class that rules over everyone once they buy up all the property and businesses that get tanked from Chyna Virus shutdowns.
Trump's on twitter. Until he gives the go ahead for us to leave.
You can see tweets, uncucked, by swapping in nitter.net for twitter.com.
This is comical at this point.
This is straight up witness intimidation and villinization. This is such commie bullshit.
This is intimidating witnesses and is a federal crime.
Didn't Twitter do this to people in the last 2 hearings as well?
Only seems to go in one direction, and that's because it's not an algorithm. It's a group of backroom losers doing mass reports to get the accounts flagged by rules lawyering terms of service. Then twitter bans them for 12 hours or whatever.
If you are big enough you can get the media to raise questions, and you get the "sorry this was banned by mistake just an algorithm". Otherwise it's too bad for you, good luck with your appeal you will lose because technically maybe you did say the right combination of words that violates something.
There's no evidence when it gets all deleted.
Dorsey's private home address would be more interesting...
Their HQs are empty.
Their datacenters are the key physical infrastructure that would take down the company.
No they are not... they are filled to the rafters with Commie traitors!
... I've never had my Rights infringed by a server. You are 100% correct about data centers, controlling our infastructure and taking out theirs when the time comes.
But my main concern is dealing with the real problem in our country (which is not infastructure).
Many large companies have 100 different contingency plans for disaster recovery. They could likely spin up their whole website on amazon cloud or azure cloud services within hours. Seize the domains along with network core layers and the site is unavailable to everyone.
then destroy all server farms to not leave anything salvageable
Data centers and a few key staff then. What are the names and titles of those people in a tech company?
Their reliance on always on electricity is an obvious weakness but it is balanced by the damage done to innocents that are just as reliant on electricity.
How and where does one seize a domain at the network core layer?
you seize the domain through a subpoena to master dns controllers
you seize the network core layer by locating their network infrastructure and taking out their "backbone" of the network, lots of routers and other physical network devices
If you're of the chattering "woke" classes your feelings are recognized by the courts and media as evidence. If you're of the deporable class no sworn testimony or deposition can be accepted.
Can we start executing these creatures
Section 230 modification, like President Trump said.
Just fucking shut it down. These people belong in jail.
Yet if you observe this site half of the posts send traffic directly to Twitter?
What the fuck.
You can swap in nitter.net in place of twitter.com in a link and see the tweet and reaponses AND deny Twitter money, tracking, and shadow banning content.
Congress has no teeth to get Dorsey and Zuckerberg in line. These social media giants have lost their protections by becoming arbiters of information, thereby becoming publishers. Sue them!
In line? Too late for that. In jail and take their assets
I’ll agree with that too.
Why travel to China for vacation when can get the same experience in San Francisco?
Ban them like we should have done with TikTok.
They are part of the fraud! Arrest!!!
It’s the Twitter Truman show for all - Twitter is a network used to control and sway public opinion - they have decided to create a false reality in pursuit of their commie utopian concept for all - we must create a new network where everyone is opted in by default - a free network - free speech - free reality - twitter’s power is in its scale, , ease of accessibility and immediacy - we can do better!
Next step in the Chinafication is banning all Republicans from Twitter.
If any of you work at an ISP or Hub maybe a glich could reroute their traffic to chyna
Yes Follow them on Parler quite a following already
Can API check if a person is banned or not?
Can we make having a banned twitter account a requirement to join TDW?
Parler is a Twitter alternative. I dont like Twitter, so I dont use it because I prefer more than a sound byte interaction with people...but it works - does exactly what Twitter does, and its growing. If you like that form of social media I highly recommend checking it out.
Not quite. You can't browse it without an account.
I know all the big accounts have set up Parler accounts but they need to just suck it up and dump Twitter all together. Short term loss of “views” but long term gain of FREEDOM.
How do crowdsource a map of Twitters data centers?
Where are the discrimination LAWSUITS!!!???
I'm hoping it's because people tried to hack their accounts and not that twitter is a 100% piece of shit
Such bullshit
Well, if you never had a Twitter account, they couldn't cancel it! It's hard to feel sorry for deleted accounts and tweets...... is it just me?
Who cares???
Twitter is gasping for relevancy, just like Facebook.
Find an alternative. Walk away. Never look back.
Imagine the communist twinks that are doing this sht in the belly of big tech if hollow eyed fire teams are called upon to assault their compounds like what happened at Scytl. The glory of that visual......
Twitter must be destroyed...this is China CCP level shit at this point.
Just a GLOOOOTCH BIGOTS
Witness intimidation
If they won, then why do they care? Why cancel someone who, if false, would be immediately demonstrably disproven? The [chicom/technocrat/oligarchs] doth protest too much, methinks. How many times can they do this before we hold them accountable?
Twitter suspended my account a few months ago for being a suspected bot after I liked a pro-Trump tweet.