I actually don't buy the "their property their rules" argument. Can they charge me more because I'm wearing a blue shirt? Can they make the women go to the back of the line? Can they make me get a vaccine to enter? The idea that I need to do whatever someone tells me in order to buy food is not a healthy line of reasoning. It only "sucks" because people are going along with it. If folks who don't want to wear a mask didn't, this shit would end in days.
"The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the crown. It may be frail - its roof may shake - the wind may blow through it - the storm may enter - the rain may enter - but the King of England cannot enter." *
~ William Pitt
We must adhere to the principle that private property is sacrosanct. If a business wants to say that no blue shirts can enter, then they should be able to do that. Let the market decide. If all the customers were blue shirt wearers, then the business will soon go out of business.
If this happened, you'd think enterprising folks would open a store where blue shirts are welcome. Look at Parler and Gab. They're in their infancy, but sprung up as a direct result of people not liking the propaganda and censorship on the big tech social media.
Private businesses should be able to make their own decisions about what does, and does not happen on their properties. Think about it. The business pays the property taxes, mortgage, pays for the business licenses, pays the utilities, pays the employees, etc. I'd say that gives them some skin in the game to dictate what goes on. Would you like your neighbor to come over and start dictating shit to you about what goes on in your house? You pay the bills for that house, not your neighbor. Your neighbor has zero skin in the game.
dude this is a civil rights violation. Just like they can't discriminate against race, age, sexual orientation, religion, etc they cannot discriminate against people with medical conditions
Also, can the private business just prevent Blacks, Whites, Asians, bald people from shopping there? They can always go elsewhere, right? Their property, their rules?
I absolutely agree with all of that. Look at how the Colorado cake baker has been harassed, harangued, and dragged into court over and over, in an attempt to put him out of business, all because he refused to make a gay wedding cake. You good with that?
I'd be perfectly fine, for example, if a Muslim owned business told me to GTGO because I am a kafir, or a gay owned business refuses to serve me because I am straight, or a white owned business refuses to serve me because I am black. Let the free market sort that out. We should rescind laws that outlaw all of that.
So masks on forever? or you can't buy food? or go to your kid's soccer game? or hike in a State park?
Not sure why tyranny is acceptable. The Jews and Gypsies weren't welcome in Germany, they could've just gone to a different country? Germany had the right to make whatever laws it's citizens voted on?
I live in a state with a statewide mask ordinance. About 50% of people wear them, maybe 30% of the stores enforce them.
We went to Florida for a thanksgiving super spreader extravaganza and I was shocked at how many businesses required masks (without any mandate), then probably 95% of people had them on everywhere.
There’s always going to be sheep - but they can only force people to do something they don’t want to do for so long, before it starts breaking down. How many hundreds of times do you think it will take for the store employee to say “put on a mask” and get scowled at/argued with, before the employee gives up and just stops asking?
I can tell you that if I worked at a retail place I wouldn’t do it, even if I believed in masks. It’s like when I worked at Best Buy as a teenager, trying to sell that garbage insurance on everything - it gets old being told no and having people get pissed at you for trying to force them to get it, eventually I just gave up. Some people live for that shit, but not me!
If we all keep not wearing our masks and resisting the stupidity - eventually they will give up. Never comply!
That's a fair question. But the no shoes thing is a rule that has been adopted by the entire world for 2 centuries perhaps. This is made up bullshit. If you plan on wearing a mask in the same way you wear shoes, meaning all day, every day, that's fine. But that is no future I will participate in. Period!. Nothing wrong with your logic, but the implementation sounds like hell on earth. I want to see people's faces and kids smiling. No dystopian bullshit to help keep me "safe"
I disagree. Following the rules is what got us to this point. We need to use these rules they love to follow against them. They know we're lying, but what is Shaniqua at Walmart going to do? Audit my health profile?
Shouldn’t have to leave. If you have other options that don’t enforce a mask, you should go there in the first place. Put these people out of business for being stupid. (Don’t just run to amazon either).
If you don’t have any other options, make them ask you to put it on, then take it off once you are inside, rinse repeat if someone stops you and asks you to put it on again. Bonus points: If they provide masks at the door, make them give you one, then put it in your pocket and put your own mask on.
Every time we force one of these poor employees to confront us, we are chipping away at their resolve to be the enforcer of stupid rules. They will either stop asking, or they will get frustrated and quit. Either way, it’s a win.
I actually don't buy the "their property their rules" argument. Can they charge me more because I'm wearing a blue shirt? Can they make the women go to the back of the line? Can they make me get a vaccine to enter? The idea that I need to do whatever someone tells me in order to buy food is not a healthy line of reasoning. It only "sucks" because people are going along with it. If folks who don't want to wear a mask didn't, this shit would end in days.
~ William Pitt
We must adhere to the principle that private property is sacrosanct. If a business wants to say that no blue shirts can enter, then they should be able to do that. Let the market decide. If all the customers were blue shirt wearers, then the business will soon go out of business.
If this happened, you'd think enterprising folks would open a store where blue shirts are welcome. Look at Parler and Gab. They're in their infancy, but sprung up as a direct result of people not liking the propaganda and censorship on the big tech social media.
Private businesses should be able to make their own decisions about what does, and does not happen on their properties. Think about it. The business pays the property taxes, mortgage, pays for the business licenses, pays the utilities, pays the employees, etc. I'd say that gives them some skin in the game to dictate what goes on. Would you like your neighbor to come over and start dictating shit to you about what goes on in your house? You pay the bills for that house, not your neighbor. Your neighbor has zero skin in the game.
dude this is a civil rights violation. Just like they can't discriminate against race, age, sexual orientation, religion, etc they cannot discriminate against people with medical conditions
Also, can the private business just prevent Blacks, Whites, Asians, bald people from shopping there? They can always go elsewhere, right? Their property, their rules?
I absolutely agree with all of that. Look at how the Colorado cake baker has been harassed, harangued, and dragged into court over and over, in an attempt to put him out of business, all because he refused to make a gay wedding cake. You good with that?
I'd be perfectly fine, for example, if a Muslim owned business told me to GTGO because I am a kafir, or a gay owned business refuses to serve me because I am straight, or a white owned business refuses to serve me because I am black. Let the free market sort that out. We should rescind laws that outlaw all of that.
I mean, if you actually take freedom of association at face value then yes, they are within their rights to deny service based on race.
So masks on forever? or you can't buy food? or go to your kid's soccer game? or hike in a State park?
Not sure why tyranny is acceptable. The Jews and Gypsies weren't welcome in Germany, they could've just gone to a different country? Germany had the right to make whatever laws it's citizens voted on?
I live in a state with a statewide mask ordinance. About 50% of people wear them, maybe 30% of the stores enforce them.
We went to Florida for a thanksgiving super spreader extravaganza and I was shocked at how many businesses required masks (without any mandate), then probably 95% of people had them on everywhere.
There’s always going to be sheep - but they can only force people to do something they don’t want to do for so long, before it starts breaking down. How many hundreds of times do you think it will take for the store employee to say “put on a mask” and get scowled at/argued with, before the employee gives up and just stops asking?
I can tell you that if I worked at a retail place I wouldn’t do it, even if I believed in masks. It’s like when I worked at Best Buy as a teenager, trying to sell that garbage insurance on everything - it gets old being told no and having people get pissed at you for trying to force them to get it, eventually I just gave up. Some people live for that shit, but not me!
If we all keep not wearing our masks and resisting the stupidity - eventually they will give up. Never comply!
That's a fair question. But the no shoes thing is a rule that has been adopted by the entire world for 2 centuries perhaps. This is made up bullshit. If you plan on wearing a mask in the same way you wear shoes, meaning all day, every day, that's fine. But that is no future I will participate in. Period!. Nothing wrong with your logic, but the implementation sounds like hell on earth. I want to see people's faces and kids smiling. No dystopian bullshit to help keep me "safe"
Medical conditions are not the same as no shirt shoes bullshit.
Cower in your own corner bro.
There’s actually places you go where you pay them money to lock you in a little room for 30 minutes and you have to try and get out ;-)
I disagree. Following the rules is what got us to this point. We need to use these rules they love to follow against them. They know we're lying, but what is Shaniqua at Walmart going to do? Audit my health profile?
Shouldn’t have to leave. If you have other options that don’t enforce a mask, you should go there in the first place. Put these people out of business for being stupid. (Don’t just run to amazon either).
If you don’t have any other options, make them ask you to put it on, then take it off once you are inside, rinse repeat if someone stops you and asks you to put it on again. Bonus points: If they provide masks at the door, make them give you one, then put it in your pocket and put your own mask on.
Every time we force one of these poor employees to confront us, we are chipping away at their resolve to be the enforcer of stupid rules. They will either stop asking, or they will get frustrated and quit. Either way, it’s a win.
Spez: bonus points for wasting their masks
It's actually unconstitutional and it's also a civil rights violation. Once you know this, you have all the ammo you need to fight this.