Jefferson was indispensable. But Hamilton was indispensable too.
They were opposites, Jefferson the idealist, and Hamilton the realist, who got it all paid for, so we weren't shirtless in the street, laughed at as silly hippies, whose failed "republic" showed that liberty could never last, because it didn't pay. Men needed a king and inherited, severe, feudal authority to make them do a full day's work, that would have shown. Hamilton saved us from that.
It had to pay.
Jefferson died broke buying books.
Hamilton made our country survive.
What has no sound financial foundation does not last. Hamilton is on the ten dollar bill for good reason. He made it pay. Somebody had to. We owe it all to him.
Both men were geniuses and both men were necessary. It was that kind of generation. Amazing people.
"Jefferson and Aaron Burr tied for the presidency in the electoral college, and Hamilton helped to defeat Burr, whom he found unprincipled, and to elect Jefferson despite philosophical differences."
"Hamilton is generally regarded as an astute and intellectually brilliant politician and financier, if often impetuous. His ideas are credited with laying the foundation for American government and finance. "
I’d rather have a monarchy than whatever the fuck we have today... this political theater put on by elites in two different costumes who pretend to be trapped in gridlock so nothing ever gets done. They spend all day telling us to donate to them and attack the other side. Then after the sun goes down they meet the elites from the other side for martinis
Imagine if trump were a monarch. We’d be in pretty damn good shape right now. “But what if a bad person became the monarch”. That’s where the 2A comes in
Central banking doesn't do that, fiat currency does that. A central bank would work fine if the gold standard was still in effect.
EDIT: You people really need to get a grip on the distinctions between banks, lenders, and minters. The entire problem is that one entity does all of that instead of it being three separate entities.
And apparently his rapping wasn't very good either. It was corny. Like he had some okay internal rhyme schemes but he really needed to work on his delivery for sure. That's probably the one and only thing the degenerate Hamilton play depicted historically accurately.
What is up with the Hamilton play? I’ve never seen it, and I know liberals lose their minds over it, which makes me never want to see it. Why did they use POC for every single role? What is their retarded reason for that?
God has given the US leaders on all sides of the loose-strict spectrum. Jefferson gave us Liberty and Hamilton made it pay so we still have it. You need both, and they need to oppose each other dynamically, because they both contain Truth.
That is only partially correct. He was at the constitutional convention and certainly opposed the proposal where state legislature would decide the president, but you can thank George Mason IIRC for the electoral college. Hamilton wasn’t a bad dude, but he was a big govt guy through and through
Hamilton wanted a king. But he did help write the Federalist Papers. And he was a brilliant man. He was very opposed to slavery, and George Washington’s BFF.
Oddly enough John Jay who didn’t sign the deceleration of independence wrote most of them. But Jay is often a forgotten forefather.
George Mason is the reason for the bill of rights. Constitution didn’t have a bill of rights originally. Mason demanded it.
James Madison was the Virginia plan.
Gouverneur Morris coined the term We The People. Also died preforming surgery on his penis with a whale bone.
Yes. You need one of those. Perhaps, only one. But he made it pay. Nobody else had, until then. There were plenty of failed rebellions before our successful one. Nobody remembers them. Peasant uprisings, that sort of thing. It has to pay or it doesn't last.
At least he was smart, and wanted this country to survive and thrive. I am not sure that kind of brains, and purity of intention is around now. Maybe it is. I can't see into all hearts. But Hamilton is a legitimate Founding Father.
Team Jefferson! Even if he died dirt poor the man has principles and balls something all these pussies of today lack. To succeed in politics you have to be an scumbag Hamilton flourished in politics that all you have to know about him.
I honor Jefferson's dying broke. But everybody isn't Jefferson and everybody can't die broke. His glorious estate, Monticello, was almost sold off for scrap, but was rescued by a patriotic family, the Levys, who had the means to preserve it for posterity, thank God.
That's overdoing it. He made significant contributions, but we should recognize the problem with central banks in the US. Would we have gotten this far without him? Obviously we can't know. The problems he introduced need to be understood. Apparently the anti-federalist papers address this, in contrast to the federalist papers he helped to write.
I don't agree with Hamilton's perspective, but he was the moving force that replaced the Articles of Confederation. I actually like the Articles of Confederation being far more limiting, but I don't believe it would have been as resilient for 200+ years. Imagine how many Democrats would lose their minds if each state got equal power regardless of population. I think we would have never achieved Manifest Destiny amongst 50 states.
I also credit Hamilton with recognizing the need for competing branches & a Senate.
In a sea of Hamiltons, be a Jefferson.
Jefferson was indispensable. But Hamilton was indispensable too.
They were opposites, Jefferson the idealist, and Hamilton the realist, who got it all paid for, so we weren't shirtless in the street, laughed at as silly hippies, whose failed "republic" showed that liberty could never last, because it didn't pay. Men needed a king and inherited, severe, feudal authority to make them do a full day's work, that would have shown. Hamilton saved us from that.
It had to pay.
Jefferson died broke buying books.
Hamilton made our country survive.
What has no sound financial foundation does not last. Hamilton is on the ten dollar bill for good reason. He made it pay. Somebody had to. We owe it all to him.
Both men were geniuses and both men were necessary. It was that kind of generation. Amazing people.
"Jefferson and Aaron Burr tied for the presidency in the electoral college, and Hamilton helped to defeat Burr, whom he found unprincipled, and to elect Jefferson despite philosophical differences."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton
"Hamilton is generally regarded as an astute and intellectually brilliant politician and financier, if often impetuous. His ideas are credited with laying the foundation for American government and finance. "
Hamilton wanted a central bank. He was no friend of liberty.
Hamilton: wanted bank, lost a duel
Jackson: hated bank, won an uncountable number of duels
Can we bring back dueling? Please?
I’d rather have a monarchy than whatever the fuck we have today... this political theater put on by elites in two different costumes who pretend to be trapped in gridlock so nothing ever gets done. They spend all day telling us to donate to them and attack the other side. Then after the sun goes down they meet the elites from the other side for martinis
Imagine if trump were a monarch. We’d be in pretty damn good shape right now. “But what if a bad person became the monarch”. That’s where the 2A comes in
Alexander Hamilton sucks, to put it succinctly. Thomas Jefferson is a national treasure!
“Unjust weight and measures are an abomination to God!”
Central banking promotes the distortion of the measure of money through inflation and bail outs for bankers
Central banking doesn't do that, fiat currency does that. A central bank would work fine if the gold standard was still in effect.
EDIT: You people really need to get a grip on the distinctions between banks, lenders, and minters. The entire problem is that one entity does all of that instead of it being three separate entities.
And apparently his rapping wasn't very good either. It was corny. Like he had some okay internal rhyme schemes but he really needed to work on his delivery for sure. That's probably the one and only thing the degenerate Hamilton play depicted historically accurately.
What is up with the Hamilton play? I’ve never seen it, and I know liberals lose their minds over it, which makes me never want to see it. Why did they use POC for every single role? What is their retarded reason for that?
God has given the US leaders on all sides of the loose-strict spectrum. Jefferson gave us Liberty and Hamilton made it pay so we still have it. You need both, and they need to oppose each other dynamically, because they both contain Truth.
If you don’t spend money recklessly, you have no problems.
Stop shilling for the federal reserve. You don’t create wealth by printing money or giving special privileges to bankers.
Alexander Hamilton, history’s first big government neocon
Alexander Hamilton is the reason we have an electoral college. He also helped write the bill of rights
That is only partially correct. He was at the constitutional convention and certainly opposed the proposal where state legislature would decide the president, but you can thank George Mason IIRC for the electoral college. Hamilton wasn’t a bad dude, but he was a big govt guy through and through
Hamilton wanted a king. But he did help write the Federalist Papers. And he was a brilliant man. He was very opposed to slavery, and George Washington’s BFF.
Oddly enough John Jay who didn’t sign the deceleration of independence wrote most of them. But Jay is often a forgotten forefather.
George Mason is the reason for the bill of rights. Constitution didn’t have a bill of rights originally. Mason demanded it.
James Madison was the Virginia plan.
Gouverneur Morris coined the term We The People. Also died preforming surgery on his penis with a whale bone.
Yes. You need one of those. Perhaps, only one. But he made it pay. Nobody else had, until then. There were plenty of failed rebellions before our successful one. Nobody remembers them. Peasant uprisings, that sort of thing. It has to pay or it doesn't last.
At least he was smart, and wanted this country to survive and thrive. I am not sure that kind of brains, and purity of intention is around now. Maybe it is. I can't see into all hearts. But Hamilton is a legitimate Founding Father.
Team Jefferson! Even if he died dirt poor the man has principles and balls something all these pussies of today lack. To succeed in politics you have to be an scumbag Hamilton flourished in politics that all you have to know about him.
I honor Jefferson's dying broke. But everybody isn't Jefferson and everybody can't die broke. His glorious estate, Monticello, was almost sold off for scrap, but was rescued by a patriotic family, the Levys, who had the means to preserve it for posterity, thank God.
I don’t care how much personal debt Thomas Jefferson died with. The value he brought to our country is priceless.
Good politicians are the ones that don’t become richer leaving office then they did entering it...
Hamilton was a scumbag
Not entirely. He supported Jefferson for the presidency in spite of obvious huge differences of personality and opinion.
Hamilton probably was no easy man to know.
Exactly, he supported Jefferson because he hated Burr and saw him as an opportunist
So he was sort of like a John McCain was to Trump. Got it.
Aaron Burr would like a word...
That's overdoing it. He made significant contributions, but we should recognize the problem with central banks in the US. Would we have gotten this far without him? Obviously we can't know. The problems he introduced need to be understood. Apparently the anti-federalist papers address this, in contrast to the federalist papers he helped to write.
Can you enlighten on why?
Hear, hear!
I will give Hamilton some credit for criticizing Adams on not enforcing the Alien and Sedition Acts
In a den of wolves, be a lion
I don't agree with Hamilton's perspective, but he was the moving force that replaced the Articles of Confederation. I actually like the Articles of Confederation being far more limiting, but I don't believe it would have been as resilient for 200+ years. Imagine how many Democrats would lose their minds if each state got equal power regardless of population. I think we would have never achieved Manifest Destiny amongst 50 states.
I also credit Hamilton with recognizing the need for competing branches & a Senate.