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endthefed11 59 points ago +66 / -7

Hamilton wanted a central bank. He was no friend of liberty.

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MAGA_Flocka_Flame 65 points ago +66 / -1

Hamilton: wanted bank, lost a duel

Jackson: hated bank, won an uncountable number of duels

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Anus_Blenders_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can we bring back dueling? Please?

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MAGA_Flocka_Flame 1 point ago +1 / -0

Andrew Jackson: IT’S TIME TO D-D-D-D-DUEL!

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MichelleObamasBulge 5 points ago +8 / -3

I’d rather have a monarchy than whatever the fuck we have today... this political theater put on by elites in two different costumes who pretend to be trapped in gridlock so nothing ever gets done. They spend all day telling us to donate to them and attack the other side. Then after the sun goes down they meet the elites from the other side for martinis

Imagine if trump were a monarch. We’d be in pretty damn good shape right now. ā€œBut what if a bad person became the monarchā€. That’s where the 2A comes in

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NO_RINOs 36 points ago +36 / -0

Alexander Hamilton sucks, to put it succinctly. Thomas Jefferson is a national treasure!

ā€œUnjust weight and measures are an abomination to God!ā€

Central banking promotes the distortion of the measure of money through inflation and bail outs for bankers

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HuggableBear -2 points ago +4 / -6

Central banking doesn't do that, fiat currency does that. A central bank would work fine if the gold standard was still in effect.

EDIT: You people really need to get a grip on the distinctions between banks, lenders, and minters. The entire problem is that one entity does all of that instead of it being three separate entities.

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suntzu30 10 points ago +10 / -0

No, because a central bank eliminates free-market competition. What happens if the central bank runs out of gold? It's a monopoly fully in control of your finances.

Before you had multiple independent banks, each issuing their own banknotes.

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HuggableBear 6 points ago +7 / -1

What happens if the central bank runs out of gold?

You're not spending gold, you're keeping the gold under lock and key. That's the entire point of representational currency. The total currency represents the total gold holdings. If a dollar represents 1/1000th of an ounce of gold, then new dollars can't represent more or less than that and you prevent inflation. The only way inflation occurs is through an official revaluation, which would quite literally cause a revolt. But since fiat currency just slowly devalues over time, people don't notice it because it's boiled frog syndrome.

A central bank tied to a gold standard with no control over the currency supply would simply be what the name states, a Federal Reserve. A place where the object of value representing the money supply is stored and where people can put their own currency/gold for safekeeping.

You have to separate the concepts of a bank, a mint, and a moneylender. There are three different things that really shouldn't have anything to do with each other because that's how all this shit turns into the mess it is today.

Do you really think we would have seen the 2008 crash if banks were only allowed to lend money from their own assets and not lend from assets you store with them? Banks lend your money to other people, then give you someone else's money when you tell them you want yours back. That's not the function of a bank, that's a shell game. A bank's business model should be limited to holding things securely and charging their customers for that security. Making a profit by lending that money out to other people is outright ridiculous and is frankly theft when you think about it, but we just think it's a perfectly normal business practice.

If a central bank existed to fulfill the need for secure holdings and only that function, it wouldn't be a problem at all. That's an ideal world that doesn't exist, unfortunately, but I'm not going to denigrate Hamilton for thinking it was a good idea. All of the founders were idealists. If they weren't, they would have never been able to even envision the concept of a free people.

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Undo1913 4 points ago +5 / -1

Central bank is unconstitutional. See -> Article 1 Section 8. CONGRESS shall control the money supply. Not a central banking cabal full of traitors who profit off both sides of the wars and our government putting us further in debt.

Fuck the Fed reserve bank cartel. It is asshoe

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

It was illegal in every way from day 1.

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +1 / -0

Central Bank isn't uncosntitutional, but the Federal Reserve as it exists definitely is.

A Central Bank, serving only a s a bank, wouldn't have control of the money supply, they would simply be a repository.

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Eu-is-socialist 2 points ago +2 / -0

No ... it did not work great.

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +2 / -1

Would. I said would, and if. Neither of those things are true, so what actually happened isn't what I'm talking about, is it?

Reading comprehension, man.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +2 / -1

It immediately turned us all into debt slaves, in 1913. According to plan.

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NoatakTheWiser 10 points ago +10 / -0

And apparently his rapping wasn't very good either. It was corny. Like he had some okay internal rhyme schemes but he really needed to work on his delivery for sure. That's probably the one and only thing the degenerate Hamilton play depicted historically accurately.

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Okillmakeanaccount 19 points ago +20 / -1

What is up with the Hamilton play? I’ve never seen it, and I know liberals lose their minds over it, which makes me never want to see it. Why did they use POC for every single role? What is their retarded reason for that?

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Okillmakeanaccount 6 points ago +6 / -0

True, true. Dumb question.

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NoatakTheWiser 17 points ago +17 / -0
  1. It's overrated
  2. You mean you wouldn't cast the entire offensive line of the Baltimore Ravens to play the founding fathers fam? Sounding a little discriminatory there.
  3. The left has this retarded idea that if POC don't see POC in roles it's excluding. So even in a play full of figures the left brings up were White men who owned slaves 24/7 they still can't depict them all as White. This is a projection because liberals always have to feel like something is about them and they'll complain if they aren't pandered to. Like when they complain a show or sketch doesn't go woke enough or the like. There's plenty of POC that simply do not care and enjoy something without a show going on some racist assumption that they'd only like so-and-so because they are poc.

But I mean you can make a play however you want, but lmao it is funny how hard they try. It's like a ghetto alternate universe America and a Boondocks episode where Charlie Murphy is voicing Thomas Jefferson or some shit. There's comedic value to that alone tbh but it would be funnier if they didn't take it so damn seriously.

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Okillmakeanaccount 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thank you for this response. I have been curious about this play for ages but never had the stomach to watch it because I don’t support the bastardization of our history. This is a perfect summary.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

So it's in blackface. The new minstrel theater.

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Anus_Blenders_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm kinda bummed on some level that covid wasn't actually anything serious because it would take out a lot of idiots

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TheChosen 4 points ago +4 / -0

Disclaimer: I've only seen the version on Disney+, and the following is my opinion.

I agree with NotakTheWiser. It's extremely overrated, not to mention that it went to extremes to "colorize" and "re-culturize" the story of the Founding. Beyond that, it's extremely forgettable as far as a musical/play goes.

Ironically, the greatest character (by far) was a white guy: King George. My next favorite was George Washington... because it's George Washington (I'm so glad they didn't destroy his character).

Jefferson had swag (the real Jefferson deserves the accolades, for sure), and it makes you root for him against Hamilton at every point... then again, Hamilton was presented just so terribly that you'd be rooting for Joe Biden over him (more on that later). The problem I had with Jefferson is that he may have had too much swag (or at least the type that makes him seem too childish and immature for such an enlightened man). Also, the same actor play a Frenchmen earlier in the play... which was played as a cartoonish comedic role... which was appropriate for a Frenchman, but not for an American Founding Father.

Now, back to Alexander Hamilton... his character was absolutely atrocious! I'm not a fan of the real Hamilton, so this play/portrayal didn't improve my liking of him any. Let's just say that Hamilton is a prime example of how being the writer/producer comes with benefits. Lin-Manuel Miranda is absolutely terrible. He can't sing, he can't act, and he can't write music worth a dime. For the whole play, I was scratching my head how he was even on the stage, little on the titular character... then, I found out he was the boss man. Let's just say this... whatever awards he got for Hamilton, he deserved them about as much as Obama deserved the Nobel prize.

As, for the music, there were only one or two songs that are even pleasant or get stuck in your head (one being King George's theme). The rest were humdrum or worse (I am NOT a fan of rap/hip-hop). I honestly don't remember Hamilton actually singing a single note. I don't even know what he does... call it rap or whatever, but it's like he just speaks his lines in rhythm with music... it's bad. I can easily say that the two women outclass everyone vocally.

Am I glad I watched it? I am glad that I saw it so I know what it is. If you have Disney+ already, and can watch it with no further cost, I'd recommend watching it also when you have nothing better to do. You may get a kick out of King George or so (and yes, I would watch a full musical of just him). But if you're wanting to watch a musical, and you're in a patriotic mood, I'd go with 1776 instead. It may be older and stuffy, but there are times where you can really feel the weight of the decisions and consequences the Founders were dealing with. At least it was a celebration of America and Liberty.

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Libertynfreedom4ever 3 points ago +3 / -0

I enjoyed it overall - I don’t like the Angelica character and I agree with your assess of Jefferson. But you’re spot on with LMM. The songs are catchy, but he’s the weak link. Would have loved to see a different actor as Hamilton. Jonathan Groff is the best person on stage and I love his song, it’s SO good. ā€œI will kill your friends and family, to remind you of my loveā€ šŸ˜‚ I also like Leslie Odom Jr a lot and I listen to ā€œThe room where it happensā€ all the time at home.

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Okillmakeanaccount 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok, you may have just convinced me to give it a watch. Haha. I’m ashamed to admit that we still are paying for Disney+, so might as well watch it.

Great review, btw. It’s almost comical how different your opinion is than liberal cucks I’ve heard discuss it, who go on and on about how they can’t stop listening to the soundtrack and how aMaZiNg Lin Manuel is.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting. So the plot line wasn't bastardized?

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Verrerogo 0 points ago +8 / -8

God has given the US leaders on all sides of the loose-strict spectrum. Jefferson gave us Liberty and Hamilton made it pay so we still have it. You need both, and they need to oppose each other dynamically, because they both contain Truth.

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NO_RINOs 12 points ago +15 / -3

If you don’t spend money recklessly, you have no problems.

Stop shilling for the federal reserve. You don’t create wealth by printing money or giving special privileges to bankers.

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Verrerogo 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ideally a banker is no different from a horse farrier or a seamstress. Someone who knows how to do something as a specialty and job.

Ideally.

There is no substitute for honor.

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KingSweyn 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wealth is created by labor upon the land. Representations (currency) is ok, but all abstractions are suspect.