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PatriotGeneral 25 points ago +26 / -1

Arguably the most based

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The_Sentinel 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yep, and the very many notions he authored and penned have endured.

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Verrerogo 7 points ago +7 / -0

YES. Without Jefferson, we would be a normal country. We would be nothing.

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thewashambro 7 points ago +8 / -1

I disagree. Most countries nowadays are sort of America like. Without Jefferson, every country would still be like the British Empire. Monarchies or Theocracies in every country. No democracy, capitalism, and the entire world would probably have communism.

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Verrerogo 6 points ago +6 / -0

Agree. Jefferson enlightened the entire world. It took a while, but yes.

Yes, yes. Let Jefferson be revered everywhere. I wish our freedom of speech and self-defense were more common; they are not, alas. Even in countries with large libraries and nice street lights and parks. You have seen that recently, oh boy. Oh yes.

But Hamilton must not be forgotten. Without him, we might not know Jefferson's name today!

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SideOBeef2016 5 points ago +6 / -1

Boys, he literally created the base to be based upon.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too much emphasis on him, as though he acted alone. Read the autobiography of Ben Franklin; nobody did more than him. George Washington was the natural leader; neither of these were less based than TJ. Many, many great men pledged their lives, honor and fortune to establish this Nation that has become the whipping boy of the left.

Had there been no TJ, would they have taken up the slack? What would be different? We have no way of knowing. Perhaps his biggest contribution came while he worked abroad. After opining that "the Musselman" (Muslim) had a part here, he gained first hand experience with their bs. Instead of going along with their ransom, he sold the doctrine of FAFO, which took many years. Had he not been there, would someone else have done it? Again, we'll never know.

He made great contributions, but was one among many.