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hazelknut 17 points ago +17 / -0

are we actually at that point?? maybe we are, if not we are as close as we ever have been. but i will say that if Trump makes these kind of moves, he will forever have to take the responsibility for it, not the general.

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Isolated_Patriot [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

are we actually at that point

Today? No.

Dec 10th if the process has not worked in the manner in which it is supposed to work? Then there is no other option but surrender or war.

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