Edit: thanks for the waste of time below which in no way shows we are "under oath"... why do people have to double down on being uninformed? problem in society and unfortunately, with some people, on this website.
Lawyers are officers of the court. Although they have a duty to zealously represent the interests of their clients, they must do so in an ethical manner. The cites in this post are to the American Bar Association Rules of Professional Conduct. Although the ABA rules aren’t binding, every state has adopted either the ABA rules or a substantially similar version making them law in each state.
Rule 3.3 of the ABA Rules of Professional Conduct says lawyers “shall not knowingly” make false statements to a court or offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false. The latter means even if the lawyer doesn’t lie, he cannot let his client lie either.
Lawyers, per the ABA model rules, cannot lie to a court, in any circumstance.
Honestly, this website is starting to get so toxic with you know it all larpers.
No shit we shouldn't make false statements but that in no way means we are under oath. It also doesn't open us up to perjury, but rather an ethics violation. One major hint of that fact is you cited a (model, not state specific) ethics rule and not a court procedure or state statute. But you'd know that if you had half a brain or half a law degree. You're a great example of larping though, so glad you showed up and both made and demonstrated your point about people being uninformed.
Edit: going on about how the ethics rule has been adopted.... and still isn't a court procedure or state statute.. why such toxic and uniformed people waste their time with being wrong and loud about being wrong, who knows. Go back to reddit.
What? No
Source: am attorney
Edit: thanks for the waste of time below which in no way shows we are "under oath"... why do people have to double down on being uninformed? problem in society and unfortunately, with some people, on this website.
Guess you have never read the ABA mode rules then? Specifically 3.3.
Lots of terrible attorneys here, this movement is definitely in good hands with larpers like yourself
Me too, remember that paper you signed on being sworn in to the bar of your state? You shoulda read it.
No offense, but you are most likely a very, very mediocre attorney if you were unaware of this fact.
This guy is wrong then? https://youtu.be/cTs-ZKxS9SA?t=231
Yes.
This guy has a bit more history than you so I'm gonna go with him until I see more evidence.
Feel free to cite a regulation or GTFO
New York State if you don't have a preference
Literally any response other than a citation is proof you have no clue, thanks
Here you go, faggots
And specifically Rule 3.3:
Lawyers are officers of the court. Although they have a duty to zealously represent the interests of their clients, they must do so in an ethical manner. The cites in this post are to the American Bar Association Rules of Professional Conduct. Although the ABA rules aren’t binding, every state has adopted either the ABA rules or a substantially similar version making them law in each state.
Rule 3.3 of the ABA Rules of Professional Conduct says lawyers “shall not knowingly” make false statements to a court or offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false. The latter means even if the lawyer doesn’t lie, he cannot let his client lie either.
Lawyers, per the ABA model rules, cannot lie to a court, in any circumstance.
Honestly, this website is starting to get so toxic with you know it all larpers.
No shit we shouldn't make false statements but that in no way means we are under oath. It also doesn't open us up to perjury, but rather an ethics violation. One major hint of that fact is you cited a (model, not state specific) ethics rule and not a court procedure or state statute. But you'd know that if you had half a brain or half a law degree. You're a great example of larping though, so glad you showed up and both made and demonstrated your point about people being uninformed.
Edit: going on about how the ethics rule has been adopted.... and still isn't a court procedure or state statute.. why such toxic and uniformed people waste their time with being wrong and loud about being wrong, who knows. Go back to reddit.