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Oh, I remember. But unfortunately, the majority of Trump supporters -- including a large chunk of people on TD -- are still suffering from Battered Conservative Syndrome.
The adage in 2015/16 was to NEVER TRUST A NEVER TRUMPER.
The problem is that at some point, you have to or nothing gets done. They knew that and exploited it 100% for their personal gain. Even so, the country was better for it for a blink, but now we are about to see everything unravel in a half blink if Trump and us can’t find a way.
This bill increases the per-country cap on family-based immigrant visas from 7% of the total number of such visas available that year to 15%, and eliminates the 7% cap for employment-based immigrant visas. It also removes an offset that reduced the number of visas for individuals from China.
The bill also establishes transition rules for employment-based visas from FY2020-FY2022, by reserving a percentage of EB-2 (workers with advanced degrees or exceptional ability) and EB-3 (skilled and other workers) visas for individuals not from the two countries with the largest number of recipients of such visas. Of the unreserved visas, not more than 85% shall be allotted to immigrants from any single country."
What does this mean? Sounds like it doesn't increase tho total number of visas, just earmarks more of them fore 'high skill' immigrants - isn't that good? What does trump say about this?
It means millions of Indians and Chinese will take 85% of all available green cards for at least next two generations (instead of 7%+7% right now). So much for “diversity”, right?
I read it differently. It seems to not increase the total number (good), but increases the ratio of the visas given through chain migration (you get a visa because a fsmily member has one too). Family based used to be 7% of the whole amount, now 15%?
Then it increases the potential number of chinks coming in (BAD).
But yeah, now that I re-read, it seems to remove the cap on employement based immigration, meaning that likely more skilled immigrants will get in.
Well it doesn't increase the total number of visas but seems to reshuffle its allocation.
Dunno, maybe, I don't want to jump to conclusions though. I feel we miss a portion of the story. Why the urge to pass this one out while some GOP weren't there to vote?
Why unanimous?
That's an odd one, I don't think it's 100% clear cut.
Besides, American programmers & InfoSec professionals are constantly correcting Pajeet's work. We're waaay better off supporting tech apprenticeships for US workers.
Could have call them CCPeople if that sounds less harsh to you. With everything going on, there shouldn't be one CCPeople coming into the US.
Because a lot of CCPeople come here with a bunch of subventions and bonuses paid by the CCP to buy out the entire country. Just look at Canada. Just look at Africa.
China is at war with the Western way of life. Believe it or not. We can't trust a single one of them.
If you worked in the tech industry, you’d understand why having “skilled” immigrants is bad when your corporation only hires them because they’re cheap and won’t try to negotiate their salary. Meanwhile they’re shit at their job and the communication issues drag everyone through the floor, yet their degrees say they’re just as qualified as comprable americans. Americans who could be doing these jobs, and better, get shafted because of this.
Yes. It was like many never really liked him, but used him to help themselves get elected. Maybe only a few really liked him..How sick does that make you feel. Makes me feel so sick. He had us and we have him. :(
Did anyone actually vote on it? Or was it one of those "unanimous consent" things where they just assume since nobody was around to object to it, every last one of them was in favor of it?
[Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) is expected to seek Senate passage of his S.386 job-outsourcing bill Wednesday evening.
If no Republican or Democrat objects to Lee’s actions, his bill will pass the Senate by so-called “Unanimous Consent,” (UC), setting the stage for a joint House-Senate conference to draft a final bill.
Lee’s aggressive effort to pass the bill by UC is a threat to the GOP Senators and their slim majority, an immigration activist told Breitbart News. “They have to give Georgia Republicans a reason to vote [in January] — and UC for this bill ain’t that,” the activist said.
Lee is trying to pass the bill after Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) dropped his opposition to the legislation.
Activists hope that Georgia Senators Kelly Loeffler and Sen. David Perdue will announce opposition to the bill — although Lee’s surprise move caught them while they are campaigning in Georgia. In August, Loeffler praised President Donald Trump for adopting reforms of the H-1B program.]
If we were to allow our representatives to wriggle out of accountability by just not being there, then we're retarded. That includes the people making excuses for them, like you.
If Mike Lee sponsored it, that's a Republican. Not a Democrat.
I'm not making excuses for anybody. I'm also not pulling out my pitchfork for people who probably weren't even in the room when this shit went down. Trump will veto, and then this shit has the spotlight on it. No way does it get overridden on record even if there are 2/3 majority who would do it in the dark of night.
The difference is that RINOs will tow the line until they can stab Trump in the back you fucking retard. Democrats will obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Even Mittens voted with Trump sometimes.
Dude if Biden gets away with this fraud the US will be Europe, doesn’t matter if we hold the Senate now, they’ll steal it next chance they get. Stop thinking elections matter. They got fucking Joe Biden 80 million votes. If you think voting will matter in the future just look in the mirron and say ‘Joe Biden got 80 million votes’ and you’ll realize voting is pointless forever. Until we go to war and rebuild. There is no other oath
You’re claiming to support Trump yet you’re directly going against his wishes, sitting out the runoffs only serves to hurt Trump. You’re aware if Dems won they could impeach and remove trump from office, right?
I think the point everyone is making here is that there’s no meaningful difference between the parties. Literally none. They may say different things into microphones, but the policy outcome is the same under either party.
The uniparty is a real thing and they are demonstrating that to us. If there's no difference in the parties, what does it actually matter without real tangible change?
I believe there’s a huge portion of Rep Senators that are RINOs, but I have a hard time believing Cruz AND Paul both supported this. I’d guess this is some bullshit paper clipping going on. Could be wrong, but that would hurt me in my feels if I can’t trust Paul.
That doesn’t sound too bad then, as long as total number is capped. It actually sounds like a good thing being a shift away from the dems “equity in everything” strategy. Let’s load up on immigrants that want to MAGA, and the shitholes can keep their own citizens.
,One site said that Mike Lee was opposed to increasing the number of cards. Just seems to be a waste of money to add a technical revision, but I am sure it benefits someone.
Yeah I thought the mantra was "We're not against immigrants, we're against Illegal immigrants" so a job that removes arbitrary limits on countries of people trying to get here sounds fine. By this tweet it looks like it applies to all legal immigration. But there may be more.
NO. DO NOT DO THIS. per GA law, in a run off, if you do not vote for those written on the ballot, your vote is immediately invalidated with no chance to be cured.
You are either stupid or a troll or an astroturfer trying to disenfranchise MAGA voters. Which is it.
Maybe read a little about what this bill actually does. Just a thought. Also, this is the Senate version. It has to go back to the house and they have to agree to its final form.
Passed what? The committee? The senate? What the hell are you talking about. If you're saying it passed the senate unanimous I'm going to press X for doubt. Now let's filibuster it.
Interesting watching the pedes that still believe in politicians argue with those that are completely done with that. I think some of you forget just how upset people are getting and telling them they have to vote for a party that supports THIS, is a hill to high....
No one on the Donald has any problem with this. Everyone on the Donald loves immigrants as long as they come legally. We don't care if 50 million people a year come into America, as long as they follow the laws to get here. And as long as they bleed red white and blue, stand for the singing of the national anthem and love liberty.
As far as people on the Donald are concerned, America can be 50% indian, 50% chinese, 25% Mexican and another 75% african, we're all colorblind. Am I doing this right?, I'm a reformed white nationalist. I'm still learning my way around color blind conservatism.
"We just need to elect all republicans. It doesn't matter if they're RINO's because we can just fix it later."
All the fuckwits around here that were spouting that nonsense and telling me that I was wrong for pointing out that we shouldn't just blindly vote for someone just as bad as a democrat look pretty fucking stupid right about now.
What the fuck does "unanimous consent" mean? Is this a protest to the President being at the key step of being nice? What do the State Department papers have to do with all of this?
Eliminating country quotas is somewhat good though because currently we have tiny quotas for countries we should want immigration from (if we're going to have immigration anyways) andhuge quotas for countries we shouldn't want anyone from. Culture matters!! If we're going to import people we should import people with compatible culture!
Doesn’t this just prove they all hated Trump... from there very beginning.... and they all just lied in his face.
That was clear as day during the primary, not that anyone remembers.
Oh, I remember. But unfortunately, the majority of Trump supporters -- including a large chunk of people on TD -- are still suffering from Battered Conservative Syndrome.
The adage in 2015/16 was to NEVER TRUST A NEVER TRUMPER.
Too many people have forgotten. Sad.
They tried to fucking have anyone besides trump because they were all swamp except for geotus himself
Its not even the same bill nor has it shown to be Passed ? Wtf ?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1044
Updated...they waste no time...
They. Are. All. Traitors. 🤬
The problem is that at some point, you have to or nothing gets done. They knew that and exploited it 100% for their personal gain. Even so, the country was better for it for a blink, but now we are about to see everything unravel in a half blink if Trump and us can’t find a way.
Indeed. I remember....
And now we know how they stay in power.
Buy more guns. That is all.
Ammo
Missouri looking good.
At some point, the adage “if you don’t use it you lose it” applies.
The tree of liberty is looking a bit dry at the moment.
parched
Dry as hell
Thirsty Thursdays?
It sure does.
We knew this from the start. Almost all of them disliked Trump before he overwhelmed the primaries.
"Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2019
This bill increases the per-country cap on family-based immigrant visas from 7% of the total number of such visas available that year to 15%, and eliminates the 7% cap for employment-based immigrant visas. It also removes an offset that reduced the number of visas for individuals from China.
The bill also establishes transition rules for employment-based visas from FY2020-FY2022, by reserving a percentage of EB-2 (workers with advanced degrees or exceptional ability) and EB-3 (skilled and other workers) visas for individuals not from the two countries with the largest number of recipients of such visas. Of the unreserved visas, not more than 85% shall be allotted to immigrants from any single country."
What does this mean? Sounds like it doesn't increase tho total number of visas, just earmarks more of them fore 'high skill' immigrants - isn't that good? What does trump say about this?
It means millions of Indians and Chinese will take 85% of all available green cards for at least next two generations (instead of 7%+7% right now). So much for “diversity”, right?
establishment seeking to make up for lost time
I read it differently. It seems to not increase the total number (good), but increases the ratio of the visas given through chain migration (you get a visa because a fsmily member has one too). Family based used to be 7% of the whole amount, now 15%?
Then it increases the potential number of chinks coming in (BAD).
But yeah, now that I re-read, it seems to remove the cap on employement based immigration, meaning that likely more skilled immigrants will get in.
Well it doesn't increase the total number of visas but seems to reshuffle its allocation.
Not sure what to think about it tbh...
I think we need a moratorium on all immigration. Period.
We needed that about 20 years ago.
But also today.
Dunno, maybe, I don't want to jump to conclusions though. I feel we miss a portion of the story. Why the urge to pass this one out while some GOP weren't there to vote?
Why unanimous?
That's an odd one, I don't think it's 100% clear cut.
Besides, American programmers & InfoSec professionals are constantly correcting Pajeet's work. We're waaay better off supporting tech apprenticeships for US workers.
Why are you calling people "chinks"?
Could have call them CCPeople if that sounds less harsh to you. With everything going on, there shouldn't be one CCPeople coming into the US.
Because a lot of CCPeople come here with a bunch of subventions and bonuses paid by the CCP to buy out the entire country. Just look at Canada. Just look at Africa.
China is at war with the Western way of life. Believe it or not. We can't trust a single one of them.
He's trying to be inclusive of the Han and Uihgyr peoples that the word Chinese just doesn't quite express.
Means the labor force for tech is going to get flooded by even more people from Asia willing to work for less.
It’s already bad, going to get much worse now.
Thanks - sounds like a bad deal
If you worked in the tech industry, you’d understand why having “skilled” immigrants is bad when your corporation only hires them because they’re cheap and won’t try to negotiate their salary. Meanwhile they’re shit at their job and the communication issues drag everyone through the floor, yet their degrees say they’re just as qualified as comprable americans. Americans who could be doing these jobs, and better, get shafted because of this.
Thank you for pointing that out - makes a lot of sense the way you say it
It’s something you wouldn’t ever know without experiencing it! Even the best intentioned things can have bad outcomes.
Yes. It was like many never really liked him, but used him to help themselves get elected. Maybe only a few really liked him..How sick does that make you feel. Makes me feel so sick. He had us and we have him. :(
Trump will Veto.
They can override it, but maybe a veto will make them think again.
This means they can override easily though.
Did anyone actually vote on it? Or was it one of those "unanimous consent" things where they just assume since nobody was around to object to it, every last one of them was in favor of it?
👆It was exactly this. Breathe, pedes. Quit being like fake news chasing after Trump’s Twitter “lay-zer” geez.
link to evidence for those of us who don't know who to look this sort of stuff up?
I see you’re that faggetous concern-troll who’s been mucking about lately. Allow me to bait you once more:
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2020/12/02/mike-lee-to-seek-senate-approval-of-his-s-386-outsourcing-bill/
[Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) is expected to seek Senate passage of his S.386 job-outsourcing bill Wednesday evening.
If no Republican or Democrat objects to Lee’s actions, his bill will pass the Senate by so-called “Unanimous Consent,” (UC), setting the stage for a joint House-Senate conference to draft a final bill.
Lee’s aggressive effort to pass the bill by UC is a threat to the GOP Senators and their slim majority, an immigration activist told Breitbart News. “They have to give Georgia Republicans a reason to vote [in January] — and UC for this bill ain’t that,” the activist said.
Lee is trying to pass the bill after Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) dropped his opposition to the legislation.
Activists hope that Georgia Senators Kelly Loeffler and Sen. David Perdue will announce opposition to the bill — although Lee’s surprise move caught them while they are campaigning in Georgia. In August, Loeffler praised President Donald Trump for adopting reforms of the H-1B program.]
Doom, baby! Love the username. Those were the days, my pede. Those were the days...
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1044
If we were to allow our representatives to wriggle out of accountability by just not being there, then we're retarded. That includes the people making excuses for them, like you.
If Mike Lee sponsored it, that's a Republican. Not a Democrat.
I'm not making excuses for anybody. I'm also not pulling out my pitchfork for people who probably weren't even in the room when this shit went down. Trump will veto, and then this shit has the spotlight on it. No way does it get overridden on record even if there are 2/3 majority who would do it in the dark of night.
Let's make a pledge: If you're right, I'll apologize and admit it. If I'm right, you do the same.
We're on the same side (I assume) so surely we can agree to something as simple.
I'm no hill rat, but this shit is how business is done.
https://www.cop.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/unanimous_consent.htm
I assume this shit will be updated tomorrow
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/386
If you see names of actual senators there, let me know.
This is the bill
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1044
Exactly. Did they actually vote.
Can you ELI5 on what you mean and how that works?
They are so dumb.
They apparenty don't like when the middle class gets "uppity".. TIME TO REPLACE US!
This is why we need mass executions.
I am changing my long time party affiliation from Republican to Independent.......just parking it until the Lion Party is formed.
You should change to democrat.
Here’s why. You can duck with their primaries. You can be one of their poll watchers.
Be an infiltrator while protesting.
This is the way
Way of life.
I've thought about that. And then I think of Seth Rich. Did he die in vain? Do we let his death mean nothing?
I get called names for pointing out that the GOP is the enemy and shouldn't be rewarded in GA for their treason.
GOP voters in GA are staying home on January 5th
Our compadre clearly doesn’t understand there are only republocrats.
GOP got this dumb idea that somehow illegal aliens will vote for the GOP without the promise of free things.
At this point, what's the fucking difference between a Republican and Democrat? Are you blind or just fucking stupid?
The difference is that RINOs will tow the line until they can stab Trump in the back you fucking retard. Democrats will obstruct, obstruct, obstruct. Even Mittens voted with Trump sometimes.
This is exactly why this country is lost. Faggots like you are the problem. Vote RINO all you want cuck. Tell your wife's boyfriend hello for me.
The primaries are when you vote them out you shill. Not the durig the battle for the most important senate seat in the country.
Even pirates 300 years ago were smart enough to know that battles weren’t the time to change captains. How that simple logic became lost is beyond me.
Dude if Biden gets away with this fraud the US will be Europe, doesn’t matter if we hold the Senate now, they’ll steal it next chance they get. Stop thinking elections matter. They got fucking Joe Biden 80 million votes. If you think voting will matter in the future just look in the mirron and say ‘Joe Biden got 80 million votes’ and you’ll realize voting is pointless forever. Until we go to war and rebuild. There is no other oath
You think the GOP wouldn’t import the same hordes LMAO
That literally is handing the democrats more power
No it is not.
Open your eyes and think,
How is it that Trump was able to "lose", while the GOP still won on election night.
That doesn't happen unless the GOP was in on the steal. The GOP made a deal with the Democrats.
"We'll let you get Orange Man out, but you better not fuck with the down ballot"
If the GOP wasn't in on it, the commies would have tried to fix every damn race,
Stop being naive,
There is only one opposition. His name is Donald Trump.
GOP and DNC are ONE.
You’re claiming to support Trump yet you’re directly going against his wishes, sitting out the runoffs only serves to hurt Trump. You’re aware if Dems won they could impeach and remove trump from office, right?
There are more than enough RINOs, as evidenced by this very post, that would cross over.
No.
It hurts the GOP scum. If the GOP does not act, Trump will not be able to stay in office, unless he does it by military force.
That is my point. Their inactions is causing him the election. You are thinking about IMPEACHMENT??? lol
Are you smoking Hunter's crack or some shit
This is a bill SPONSORED BY A REPUBLICAN.
Mike Lee is a never Trumper sellout - was always cucked.
And you’re still calling to get a Democrat elected, which goes directly against Trump’s wishes. You’re either glowing or just fucking stupid.
I think the point everyone is making here is that there’s no meaningful difference between the parties. Literally none. They may say different things into microphones, but the policy outcome is the same under either party.
The uniparty is a real thing and they are demonstrating that to us. If there's no difference in the parties, what does it actually matter without real tangible change?
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTERS.....
It was unanimous, so it doesn't seem to matter who controls the senate to be honest, GOP or Dems will both vote for massive illegal immigration.
Politicians are typically the enemy of the people. That’s why we love Trump so much. He is not one of them. They are the swamp
I believe there’s a huge portion of Rep Senators that are RINOs, but I have a hard time believing Cruz AND Paul both supported this. I’d guess this is some bullshit paper clipping going on. Could be wrong, but that would hurt me in my feels if I can’t trust Paul.
From what I can understand it doesn't change the actual number of cards available..I don't see that it was worth the time.
That doesn’t sound too bad then, as long as total number is capped. It actually sounds like a good thing being a shift away from the dems “equity in everything” strategy. Let’s load up on immigrants that want to MAGA, and the shitholes can keep their own citizens.
,One site said that Mike Lee was opposed to increasing the number of cards. Just seems to be a waste of money to add a technical revision, but I am sure it benefits someone.
Do we have a full explanation of the law aside from a few panic tweets? I'd like to judge for myself.
Yeah I thought the mantra was "We're not against immigrants, we're against Illegal immigrants" so a job that removes arbitrary limits on countries of people trying to get here sounds fine. By this tweet it looks like it applies to all legal immigration. But there may be more.
Fuck it. Write Trump in on the Georgia runoffs
I was worried about Biden packing the court but the senate Republicans are probably going to go along with it. Burn the GOP to the ground
NO. DO NOT DO THIS. per GA law, in a run off, if you do not vote for those written on the ballot, your vote is immediately invalidated with no chance to be cured.
You are either stupid or a troll or an astroturfer trying to disenfranchise MAGA voters. Which is it.
Ehhh if you can't write in maybe go for the rino. Not a troll just heated that all GOP senators went along with this
That doesn't work anymore. No more shaming voters.
WE NEED A NEW PARTY.
If Trump formed his own party the GOP would be dead tomorrow.
Don't form a new party WHILE WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A DAMN ELECTION!!!
The supreme court hasn't ruled on anything yet... save this comment for a few weeks
SCOTUS hasn't got to anything yet, stateside activist judges do not account for all of them.
cause then the court will uphold anti-2A laws and strike down pro-life ones.
2020 should be the end of the 2 party system.
And those who run it.
This thread smells like a slide.
No senator?? Not even Ted Cruz??
That his disappointing. Cornyn? I would exoaecr him to do that, not Ted.
Why would that surprise you? He went to the border with Glenn Beck in 2014 to welcome illegals with teddy bears and soccer balls.
It is time to 1776.
Does that mean they all voted for it, or just that they didn't vote against it. I know it's semantics, but I'm just curious.
Fair few rainbow flags and stars happy about that one in that tweet.
AND THAT INCLUDES RAND, TED, AND HAWLEY. NO EXCEPTIONS. FUCK THEM ALL.
Maybe read a little about what this bill actually does. Just a thought. Also, this is the Senate version. It has to go back to the house and they have to agree to its final form.
Hijacking a post to put it to top level because it’s a question I’d like answered too.
https://thedonald.win/p/11Ql6Pqr5u/x/c/4DpMLBH9ylt
Passed what? The committee? The senate? What the hell are you talking about. If you're saying it passed the senate unanimous I'm going to press X for doubt. Now let's filibuster it.
Disgusting!
1776
Interesting watching the pedes that still believe in politicians argue with those that are completely done with that. I think some of you forget just how upset people are getting and telling them they have to vote for a party that supports THIS, is a hill to high....
No one on the Donald has any problem with this. Everyone on the Donald loves immigrants as long as they come legally. We don't care if 50 million people a year come into America, as long as they follow the laws to get here. And as long as they bleed red white and blue, stand for the singing of the national anthem and love liberty.
As far as people on the Donald are concerned, America can be 50% indian, 50% chinese, 25% Mexican and another 75% african, we're all colorblind. Am I doing this right?, I'm a reformed white nationalist. I'm still learning my way around color blind conservatism.
Arrest the Senate.
Adjourn congress.
We need a do-over
Wow, what the FUCK is this? Not ONE objection?
We have crossed the rubicon. These people aren't even bothering with their masks (so to speak!) anymore.
traitors, completely against the will of the people
How is that Open Borders.
From what I can read it doesn't change the Number of green cards available, just how they are allotted...
if this means more based indians and less retarded somalians than i'm all in
They are hedging their bets. This isn't a betrayal.
I'm all for locked down immigration, but isn't what Trump was advocating for?
Get your asses to DC December 12th
Now you see the real reason both Democrats and Republicans cheated to get Trump out
The democrat agenda will only end with a civil war & revolution.
"We just need to elect all republicans. It doesn't matter if they're RINO's because we can just fix it later."
All the fuckwits around here that were spouting that nonsense and telling me that I was wrong for pointing out that we shouldn't just blindly vote for someone just as bad as a democrat look pretty fucking stupid right about now.
Systematic replacement of America citizens.....
What the fuck does "unanimous consent" mean? Is this a protest to the President being at the key step of being nice? What do the State Department papers have to do with all of this?
and yet its not about congress its about we the people people. we want trump not the swampy congress.
But if they want diversity, shouldn't they stop letting all the visas go to Mexico, China and India?
Anybody got some 223/5.56 to spare. Asking for a distant relative.
From what I can see in this tweet, doesn't this seem to apply to legal immigration?
If more of this says "tear the wall down and abolish Ice" I don't see it.
Eliminating country quotas is somewhat good though because currently we have tiny quotas for countries we should want immigration from (if we're going to have immigration anyways) andhuge quotas for countries we shouldn't want anyone from. Culture matters!! If we're going to import people we should import people with compatible culture!
“Mike Lee to the gallows, I repeat, Mike Lee to the gallows.”
There’s NEVER a good time to do this, not to mention during MUH COVID when so many real jobs and lives have been ruined.