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. And I am not an anti-vaccine person, by any means.
The approach is too novel, and there is simply not enough time or data to establish that it is safe in the short term, to say nothing of long term side effects. And all of this risk for a virus that has a vanishingly small chance of killing me, or causes me long term problems.
It just doesn't pass the Thunderpussy cost-benefit analysis....so I will be taking a hard pass on it.
I just had this conversation with one of my daughters. She called, and is worried that her work might force her to do this. I told her under NO circumstances should she comply, no matter what. She said she wouldn't have enough savings to last more than a year if she quits her job. I told her to let them fire her, but not to worry about the later. She has never been one to accept much help from us (our children were raised to pull their own weight, despite my financial security and my wife's.)
Her Mother and I would rather support her until she has found another job, or if necessary, the rest of her LIFE rather than be forced to take a vaccine that she does not want to take. I told her to scratch this off her worry bead list, that it wasn't happening on my watch. She cried she was so relieved.......:)
Same. I would rather have covid than take this vaccine. You need extremely low temperatures to keep it stable. Why are we expected to take something even they aren't sure how it will work.
Indeed. The mRNA approach is completely novel, largely untested, and is a pandora's box of unanswered questions vs. a virus with a more than 99% survival rate for most people......this should be a no brainer.
Covid is similar to the common cold. There has never been a vaccine for that because it mutates too quickly. The best the flu shot has done in the past 20 years is 60% effectiveness. The reason the effectiveness numbers are so high is that most people exposed to covid never show symptoms in the first place.
RNA has a very short half-life and RNAses (enzymes degrading RNA) are ubiquitous. You actually need specially treated water if you’re doing work with RNA. Also, RNA has no direct retroactive effects on DNA, barring retroviruses that requires reverse transcriptase which we don’t have.
That being said we should still be very wary of employing a new vaccine type en masse. Just because there isn’t a topical reason for how it could be harmful doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
YES. If you're into podcasts, there's an amazing one called Mysterious Universe run by two very based Aussies. I've been listening for a year and a half, it's gold. They're very funny and cover everything from Big Foot to aliens to hallucinogenic substances but they're also very outspoken about C H Y N A and will rip on them regularly. Their latest episode covered the genetic "editing" that the CCP has been working on and it's implications for the world. Seriously disturbing stuff. But they talk about this exact thing.
It'll become an issue on your taxes like Obamacare and Romneycare.
The likely progression will be to see how many take it voluntarily before they start to cajole then force. Expect marketing like they were trying to sell you dish soap.
IQ tests are only calibrated to return numbers up to a certain point. It's like getting 200% voter turn out.
Linus Pauling won a Nobel in chemistry then used that position to push medical beliefs that a lot of people believe today but when tested, don't prove out.
The guy may or may not be smart. He may or may not be educated about human biology. But he's not an expert on everything just because he's got a number after his name.
I'm not taking it.
. And I am not an anti-vaccine person, by any means.
The approach is too novel, and there is simply not enough time or data to establish that it is safe in the short term, to say nothing of long term side effects. And all of this risk for a virus that has a vanishingly small chance of killing me, or causes me long term problems.
It just doesn't pass the Thunderpussy cost-benefit analysis....so I will be taking a hard pass on it.
There are rumblings that my work will make it mandatory.
If that happens I plan to take $1,000 cash with me to bribe the person administering it to just write down that I was given it.
If that doesn't work, I'll quit my job and move on.
I will not be taking any COVID vaccine.
That will he challenged no doubt. Glad we have a “constitutional” SCOTUS. Whew.
Look into Workman's comp law.
If your employer forces you to do something medical, they may become liable under WC law. This liability may encourage them to back off.
IANAL and you need do your own research on this.
If the State or Feds force it, it's a different problem.
IANAL??
You do?
In other context, No.
In this context: I Am Not A Lawyer.
Thanks for the clarification pede
Was wondering why it got so weird in the middle there
I just had this conversation with one of my daughters. She called, and is worried that her work might force her to do this. I told her under NO circumstances should she comply, no matter what. She said she wouldn't have enough savings to last more than a year if she quits her job. I told her to let them fire her, but not to worry about the later. She has never been one to accept much help from us (our children were raised to pull their own weight, despite my financial security and my wife's.)
Her Mother and I would rather support her until she has found another job, or if necessary, the rest of her LIFE rather than be forced to take a vaccine that she does not want to take. I told her to scratch this off her worry bead list, that it wasn't happening on my watch. She cried she was so relieved.......:)
Same. I would rather have covid than take this vaccine. You need extremely low temperatures to keep it stable. Why are we expected to take something even they aren't sure how it will work.
Indeed. The mRNA approach is completely novel, largely untested, and is a pandora's box of unanswered questions vs. a virus with a more than 99% survival rate for most people......this should be a no brainer.
Same, I'd rather just get covid-19. This January Covid-19 made me nervous by March I knew this was all bullshit.
Indeed. I smelled bullshit from day 1, and I am no conspiracy theorist, either.
If war is what they want, a war they will get.
A war they will sorely regret causing.
Covid is similar to the common cold. There has never been a vaccine for that because it mutates too quickly. The best the flu shot has done in the past 20 years is 60% effectiveness. The reason the effectiveness numbers are so high is that most people exposed to covid never show symptoms in the first place.
interesting concept. introducing it into even a small percentage of the gene pool will pollute the gene pool eventually...
RNA vaccins wont effect your DNA, but a DNA vaccine might. Stay away from DNA vaccines
RNA has a very short half-life and RNAses (enzymes degrading RNA) are ubiquitous. You actually need specially treated water if you’re doing work with RNA. Also, RNA has no direct retroactive effects on DNA, barring retroviruses that requires reverse transcriptase which we don’t have.
That being said we should still be very wary of employing a new vaccine type en masse. Just because there isn’t a topical reason for how it could be harmful doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
YES. If you're into podcasts, there's an amazing one called Mysterious Universe run by two very based Aussies. I've been listening for a year and a half, it's gold. They're very funny and cover everything from Big Foot to aliens to hallucinogenic substances but they're also very outspoken about C H Y N A and will rip on them regularly. Their latest episode covered the genetic "editing" that the CCP has been working on and it's implications for the world. Seriously disturbing stuff. But they talk about this exact thing.
No way never. They will try and bribe us to take it. Want a stimulus check? Get the shot.
Worse.
It'll become an issue on your taxes like Obamacare and Romneycare.
The likely progression will be to see how many take it voluntarily before they start to cajole then force. Expect marketing like they were trying to sell you dish soap.
If Chris came out and said the world was flat would anyone still use his comments as a means to backup their side or point?
But did you see the part about his IQ?
+1 on this
IQ tests are only calibrated to return numbers up to a certain point. It's like getting 200% voter turn out.
Linus Pauling won a Nobel in chemistry then used that position to push medical beliefs that a lot of people believe today but when tested, don't prove out.
The guy may or may not be smart. He may or may not be educated about human biology. But he's not an expert on everything just because he's got a number after his name.
It's a logically fallacy.
They are freaks, freaks of nature. Not normal.
They'll try and discredit his insights by some ad hominem attack by saying that there is a picture of him from 1964 being mean to a horse.
Seriously,
That is how the Propagandogs, or Propagangdogs, roll now hommie.
Truth no longer matters. Blind consumption of drivel from your Digital Masters is the new intelligent.
How the hell are so few people following this guy?
Under 7000 on Twitter, under 4000 on youtube
Iono? ::shrug:: Almost like he's being suppressed