Well, Sandy Hook was a hoax. He just fed it to Alex Jones as a way to discredit him. Everything else is BS. Replace Sandy Hook with the common cold being airborne HIV that will exist in the air for all eternity and it's good.
Las Vegas was obviously not what we were told either. Anyone familiar with guns knows this. The dude supposedly had like 42 ARs and shot hundreds of people (with the Saudi prince just happening to have been there) and then there is never a motive or any further discussion of the dude and he also happens to have been somewhat linked to the CIA???
If these are the reasons people are saying the Steve dude is disinfo, it's just because they are normies who haven't done their homework. I feel more confident now.
Edited to add: I wonder if Gadaffi is still alive now? He was an odd looking fella. Almost looked like a costume tbh.
Disinformation works by telling enough of the truth to gain the listeners trust. For instance...hey, you're not being told the REAL story. (Newbie truther knows official narratives are lies). Alex continues by saying "Ill tell you the truth that my secret sources gave me." Newbie truther believes Alexs juicy lies.
I agree. I don't personally watch Alex and do consider him to be a 90/10 type of gatekeeper.
That said, assuming someone is disinfo for being right about other events doesn't make sense to me. I'll say that it's definitely possible this Steve guy is disinfo (willing, unwilling, cointel or otherwise), but I haven't seen anything conclusive to demonstrate this and likely won't (until time passes and his predictions come true or fail.)
My position has been of neutrality instead of certainty. Those who are sure this is disinfo will reverse their course if it plays out over the next few weeks. They could be right and he could be a disinfo agent, but assuming this in absence of actual evidence does nobody any favors.
The evidence used in this post to illustrate the guy is dishonest is info that most beginner truthers know makes him more believable instead of less -- I would be much less likely to trust someone who told me Sandy Hook and Las Vegas played out exactly how the media told us they did.
If you recognize you were clearly lied to about one or more aspects of an operation but then continue to believe the same people who were just lying to you about other aspects of the same operation, it might be you that it's working on, my friend.
I'm not going to commit either way on this one, but I'm open to the possibility he could know more than I do. We've seen this happen with Sandy Hook. False propaganda is completely legal as well (not that it matters to them.)
I would consider disinfo to be something like "Donald Trump was cloned and replaced by Michael Obama," not "These sketchy events are even sketchier than you thought."
My point: this does nothing to demonstrate that this guy is disinfo. In a few weeks we should know for sure.
You're believing news casters who you know lie to you about the body count of Las Vegas and this is your central piece of evidence. The same ones who told you Sandy Hook was a crazy guy who shot up a school and that as a result of this you should give your guns to the government. The same ones who told you babies were being pulled from incubators to get you to support war in the middle East.
That's your evidence, m8. It's not a good position to attempt to lecture others on their understanding of "disinformation" from.
So again, I'll stay in my neutral stance of "wait and see." Accepting his info like I do everyone else's - it's interesting and it may pan out or may not. Some of what he said sounds very plausible, some not as much. We'll see.
Unless you didn't get the bodycount from the news, then that's just basic truth, considering your whole premise seems to be: he's wrong about Las Vegas because I know for a fact that people died there.
From here, I see a few possibilities of what Vegas was (similar to as reported and not) and the Saudi royal crackdown going on at the time could lend to the news event being a dazzle camoflauge psy-op for a different event. Or not. At our level of intel it is indeed hard to say.
No hard feelings, m8. Maybe you're right and the guy's frauding. I'm not married to either interpretation but I'd sure rather he be right than wrong.
Who believes anyone on AJs shows including Alex? Its pure entertainment, disinfo and emotional psy ops just like FAUX News but targeting a different demographic.
Las Vegas shootings & Sandy Hook really have tons of anomalies
The watermarks are on the ballots I thought.
Clinton was involved w/ Gaddafi, so who the hell knows.
I'm not convinced yet
Don’t disagree. I used to think he was an old kook spinning yarns while wishing he were still in the game. I also don’t buy that he ever was the big player (and in multiple fields) that he says he was.
Alex Jones is the honey pot geared to spread disinformation and influence newbie truthers just as FAUX "News" is a honey pot targetting good hearted, patriotic normies.
I don't think he is a dis info snake. I think he is a guy who wishes he did some thing when he worked for government. He knew all the shit and did nothing. Now he regrets it, so he is larping as some trump insider who is close to trump. He knows that trump is doing some thing and he wants to be part of it. So he is larping so he feels like a hero.
Well, Sandy Hook was a hoax. He just fed it to Alex Jones as a way to discredit him. Everything else is BS. Replace Sandy Hook with the common cold being airborne HIV that will exist in the air for all eternity and it's good.
That just makes me trust him more.
Las Vegas was obviously not what we were told either. Anyone familiar with guns knows this. The dude supposedly had like 42 ARs and shot hundreds of people (with the Saudi prince just happening to have been there) and then there is never a motive or any further discussion of the dude and he also happens to have been somewhat linked to the CIA???
If these are the reasons people are saying the Steve dude is disinfo, it's just because they are normies who haven't done their homework. I feel more confident now.
Edited to add: I wonder if Gadaffi is still alive now? He was an odd looking fella. Almost looked like a costume tbh.
Disinformation works by telling enough of the truth to gain the listeners trust. For instance...hey, you're not being told the REAL story. (Newbie truther knows official narratives are lies). Alex continues by saying "Ill tell you the truth that my secret sources gave me." Newbie truther believes Alexs juicy lies.
I agree. I don't personally watch Alex and do consider him to be a 90/10 type of gatekeeper.
That said, assuming someone is disinfo for being right about other events doesn't make sense to me. I'll say that it's definitely possible this Steve guy is disinfo (willing, unwilling, cointel or otherwise), but I haven't seen anything conclusive to demonstrate this and likely won't (until time passes and his predictions come true or fail.)
My position has been of neutrality instead of certainty. Those who are sure this is disinfo will reverse their course if it plays out over the next few weeks. They could be right and he could be a disinfo agent, but assuming this in absence of actual evidence does nobody any favors.
The evidence used in this post to illustrate the guy is dishonest is info that most beginner truthers know makes him more believable instead of less -- I would be much less likely to trust someone who told me Sandy Hook and Las Vegas played out exactly how the media told us they did.
If you recognize you were clearly lied to about one or more aspects of an operation but then continue to believe the same people who were just lying to you about other aspects of the same operation, it might be you that it's working on, my friend.
I'm not going to commit either way on this one, but I'm open to the possibility he could know more than I do. We've seen this happen with Sandy Hook. False propaganda is completely legal as well (not that it matters to them.)
I would consider disinfo to be something like "Donald Trump was cloned and replaced by Michael Obama," not "These sketchy events are even sketchier than you thought."
My point: this does nothing to demonstrate that this guy is disinfo. In a few weeks we should know for sure.
You're believing news casters who you know lie to you about the body count of Las Vegas and this is your central piece of evidence. The same ones who told you Sandy Hook was a crazy guy who shot up a school and that as a result of this you should give your guns to the government. The same ones who told you babies were being pulled from incubators to get you to support war in the middle East.
That's your evidence, m8. It's not a good position to attempt to lecture others on their understanding of "disinformation" from.
So again, I'll stay in my neutral stance of "wait and see." Accepting his info like I do everyone else's - it's interesting and it may pan out or may not. Some of what he said sounds very plausible, some not as much. We'll see.
That's not a strawman.
Unless you didn't get the bodycount from the news, then that's just basic truth, considering your whole premise seems to be: he's wrong about Las Vegas because I know for a fact that people died there.
From here, I see a few possibilities of what Vegas was (similar to as reported and not) and the Saudi royal crackdown going on at the time could lend to the news event being a dazzle camoflauge psy-op for a different event. Or not. At our level of intel it is indeed hard to say.
No hard feelings, m8. Maybe you're right and the guy's frauding. I'm not married to either interpretation but I'd sure rather he be right than wrong.
Of course. The guy literally wrote the book on psych warfare, and he uses it AGAINST people like us.
Who believes anyone on AJs shows including Alex? Its pure entertainment, disinfo and emotional psy ops just like FAUX News but targeting a different demographic.
Hmm yeah, even Alex Jones seemed to be wary of what he was saying AND IF ALEX JONES is wary of what you are saying...
Las Vegas shootings & Sandy Hook really have tons of anomalies The watermarks are on the ballots I thought. Clinton was involved w/ Gaddafi, so who the hell knows. I'm not convinced yet
Don’t disagree. I used to think he was an old kook spinning yarns while wishing he were still in the game. I also don’t buy that he ever was the big player (and in multiple fields) that he says he was.
Didnt the col. say today at the Michigan hearing that the ballots have watermarks, and forensics can find all printed ballots?
My thoughts exactly.
Alex Jones is the honey pot geared to spread disinformation and influence newbie truthers just as FAUX "News" is a honey pot targetting good hearted, patriotic normies.
I don't think he is a dis info snake. I think he is a guy who wishes he did some thing when he worked for government. He knew all the shit and did nothing. Now he regrets it, so he is larping as some trump insider who is close to trump. He knows that trump is doing some thing and he wants to be part of it. So he is larping so he feels like a hero.
He's likely closer to what's going on in Trump world than the uber "larper" Alex since AJ has no creds or genuine contacts.