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posted ago by nenorpg +16 / -0

In the hearing at Michigan House Oversight Committee today Steve Johnson asked why these allegations of fraud in Detroit should be taken seriously when Trump gained votes in Detroit, but Biden got less votes than Hillary in Detroit.

This sounds like a decent claim on it's face, until you realize that people are moving out of Detroit, MI proper and into other parts of Wayne County.

Wayne County Votes 2016 for Hillary: 519,444 Wayne County Votes 2020 for Biden: 597,170

The problem is with Wayne County as a whole, not just with Detroit. It should also be considered that vote counting is done in many places, not necessarily where the vote was cast. I'd like to see any source showing where votes are actually counted for Wayne County.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Michigan https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/clerk/election-results.aspx

In the hearing at Michigan House Oversight Committee today [Steve Johnson asked why these allegations of fraud in Detroit should be taken seriously](https://youtu.be/eUjTOSDZ0BE?t=15704) when Trump gained votes in Detroit, but Biden got less votes than Hillary in Detroit. This sounds like a decent claim on it's face, until you realize that people are moving out of Detroit, MI proper and into other parts of Wayne County. Wayne County Votes 2016 for Hillary: 519,444 Wayne County Votes 2020 for Biden: 597,170 The problem is with Wayne County as a whole, not just with Detroit. It should also be considered that vote counting is done in many places, not necessarily where the vote was cast. I'd like to see any source showing where votes are actually counted for Wayne County. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Michigan https://www.waynecounty.com/elected/clerk/election-results.aspx
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nenorpg [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're right. It is more damning for Biden to NOT get more votes in the city of Detroit if he actually won Michigan.

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nenorpg [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes I wasn't aware of that factoid about Detroit either. I hope more people can be made aware of it incase it's brought up in their discussion. They will always try to misdirect, but we can beat the misdirection if we have the answers.

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bubble_bursts 0 points ago +1 / -1

Nice try buddy. You know perfectly well that you are the one coming here with half baked logic to create disinformation.

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nenorpg [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I understand the skepticism, but I really am on your side. I have my MAGA hat from 2016 and two I Voted Stickers from Alabama to show I voted for Trump Twice. I can take a picture and put a sticky note with a word of your choice on it. I also have other Trump merch too from when I visited his tower in Vegas.

What else can I do to prove that I'm on Trump's side?

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bubble_bursts 0 points ago +1 / -1

The last thing you should be worrying about is proving to some random stranger on the Internet that you are on Trump's side.

The next last thing you should be worrying about is some cute retort while we have mountains of evidence overflowing from every nook and cranny for voter fraud to focus on.

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nenorpg [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'll prove that I'm on Trump's side anytime. If you're going to claim other people are the enemy then you're following a divide and conquer strategy.

Perhaps you are the enemy, so where is your proof?

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bubble_bursts 0 points ago +1 / -1

You are a persistent shill

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nenorpg [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Instead of discussing how to debate a point brought up by the left, you are saying not to worry about it and not to discuss it. You also claimed I'm the shill.

I think you've revealed yourself to be the shill. Suck it Biden boy.

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raggedyman74 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also, they don't need to cheat in Detroit, it's a gimme for the democrats. The antics and intimidation to Republicans at polling placed is what was the issue in the city. The rest of the county is another issue.

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tdslives 2 points ago +2 / -0

I can’t believe anyone brought it up at the hearing, but possibly because of equal or more fraud in 2016?