I will just say that my Libertarian bent is all for people doing whatever they want.(within reason)
You can hold two thoughts at one time. Casting aside and denigrating traditional ideals does not make the new ideals a good idea. Ideals have been formed over millennia for a reason, they work. Feel free to fudge the lines for your personal amusement, but don't tell me a society can last by blurring all the lines. That is not "inclusion", it is indoctrination and normalization. It denies scientific fact and the wisdom of the ages.
Sorry, pede, the days of libertarian relevance have ended. I say this as a former libertarian myself, who still carries the values but realized the tactics are outdated. It simply doesn’t work when you share a society with groups that will not agree to grant you the same freedoms you grant them.
You end up disagreeing with people while you defend to the death their right to free speech, only to have them turn around and censor you. And now they’re the only ones with free speech, and they use it to make the world less free.
As strange as it sounds, we have to be less libertarian in order to have a freer world.
God says “do this”, and leaves it up to you to obey or disobey. I don’t know what Bible you’re reading but if this was coercion, then God is terrible at it, because disobedience to God is the norm throughout the Bible.
God sees it sufficient to let the disobedient continue in their disobedience until such time as He decides to judge them accordingly. This isn’t coercion, this is judgement; someone who is coerced into obedience has no cause for judgement.
Jesus came to set people free. He didn’t coerce people into following Him or obeying Him. He didn’t seek influence or power. He didn’t even seek attention. In fact, He actively fled unwanted praise and attention on multiple occasions. It goes so far as to say a bent reed He will not break off and a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish when describing Jesus. Jesus Christ walked in the least coercive manner possible.
Libertarian and radical liberalism look very similar, but they are very different. A bedrock Libertarian principle in my view is that you know what is right for you. Despite dispariging remarks, that stands. Probably too agreeable for you, but I would maintain your upright standards are obviously what is best for you.
I will just say that my Libertarian bent is all for people doing whatever they want.(within reason) You can hold two thoughts at one time. Casting aside and denigrating traditional ideals does not make the new ideals a good idea. Ideals have been formed over millennia for a reason, they work. Feel free to fudge the lines for your personal amusement, but don't tell me a society can last by blurring all the lines. That is not "inclusion", it is indoctrination and normalization. It denies scientific fact and the wisdom of the ages.
Sorry, pede, the days of libertarian relevance have ended. I say this as a former libertarian myself, who still carries the values but realized the tactics are outdated. It simply doesn’t work when you share a society with groups that will not agree to grant you the same freedoms you grant them.
You end up disagreeing with people while you defend to the death their right to free speech, only to have them turn around and censor you. And now they’re the only ones with free speech, and they use it to make the world less free.
As strange as it sounds, we have to be less libertarian in order to have a freer world.
Based af
I’m not even a Libertarian but you need to chill. Freedom is a Biblical value. Coercion is not.
God says “do this”, and leaves it up to you to obey or disobey. I don’t know what Bible you’re reading but if this was coercion, then God is terrible at it, because disobedience to God is the norm throughout the Bible.
God sees it sufficient to let the disobedient continue in their disobedience until such time as He decides to judge them accordingly. This isn’t coercion, this is judgement; someone who is coerced into obedience has no cause for judgement.
Jesus came to set people free. He didn’t coerce people into following Him or obeying Him. He didn’t seek influence or power. He didn’t even seek attention. In fact, He actively fled unwanted praise and attention on multiple occasions. It goes so far as to say a bent reed He will not break off and a dimly burning wick He will not extinguish when describing Jesus. Jesus Christ walked in the least coercive manner possible.
Libertarian and radical liberalism look very similar, but they are very different. A bedrock Libertarian principle in my view is that you know what is right for you. Despite dispariging remarks, that stands. Probably too agreeable for you, but I would maintain your upright standards are obviously what is best for you.
Free will of Libertarian thought is the polar opposite of Marxism, where everything is decided for you. You're sketchy.