I am confused on this, the S.386 doesn't seem to add green cards, I can't tell about the house version. Lee even said he doesn't want to add more. I don't see the need to mess with all of it, and I'm sure it benefits somehow, but I am not sure it should be used as an argument against voting in GA.
It more than doubles the per-country cap on H-1B (7% to 15%) so that tech companies can hire more Indian H-1Bs. There's an 800,000 (!!!) backlog of Indian H-1Bs and tech companies want to bring them in so they can pay workers less (greater supply of workers = lower wages).
I don't think it raises the total number of H-1Bs per year, but it changes the composition of countries that get H-1Bs. If this bill is enacted, it means tech companies have more than double the amount of H-1Bs they can hire.
Definitely a payout to big corps, and I don't like more from China right now. However if they don't have jobs lined up, wouldn't they still be used? Id much rather they work on jobs for the American people. Much of the news we are getting right now is aimed at demoralizing/black pilling, all of this didn't seem to change much of the end result. Admittedly, cursory glance at the bills. More worried at the presidential battle-and don't want to steal that momentum.
Country of origin is important in terms impact on particular industries. India and China are a large source of labor for the tech industry. By increasing the number of workers that get H-1Bs from these countries, it displaces American tech workers.
It changes the end result because it displaces American tech workers who would now (if it's enacted) have to compete with double the number of H-1Bs from China and India. It will depress wages as well.
This isn't about stealing momentum. We can walk and chew gum. Sen. Lee (and the other RINOs) clearly tried to push this through when they knew it would go under the radar with the presidential battles going on.
Fair enough about momentum. Still I'm seeing enough black pilling about congress and avoiding the GA vote. I wanted to look how many abstained.. as I said I was looking at the other bill that passed purely bc no objections?
Country of origin.. I suppose I was thinking more .. which jobs are more important. If they're letting in x amount anyway, is it better or worse to have them be tech jobs vs lower paying?
If they're letting in x amount anyway, I'd prefer that there be a greater diversity of countries of origin. Under this bill, there will be 30% Chinese and Indian H-1B workers rather than 15%. And this bill was passed at the lobbying request of technology companies and open borders groups. See here: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/bills/summary?id=hr1044-116
It goes to the general trend of loosening immigration rules and opening borders at the behest of corporations and it should be opposed. This is what globalization looks like. First it's incremental changes (7% to 15% per country but leaving the overall cap in place) and then they will question why the H-1B cap is 140,000 and there will be a well-funded effort by corporations and immigration activists to get that number raised as well.
For reference, the bill more than DOUBLES the per-country cap on family-based immigrant visas from 7% of the total number of such visas available that year to 15%.
Currently, the USA grants 140,000 green cards annually to employment-based immigrants and there's a 7% cap (i.e., 9,800) on the number of immigrants from any one country.
Basically, this bill is a fast track for tech companies to displace American workers with more Indian tech workers. Every RINO who cosponsored this bill is bought and paid for. This is an America Last bill.
In addition, it's got a nice giveaway for China and removes an offset that reduced the number of visas for individuals from China.
INSANE.
Why pass this when the economy is uncertain during COVID-19?
Companies and organizations that are clearly looking out for American workers - Google, Microsoft, Facebook, the Chamber of Commerce, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, Americans for Prosperity, IBM, etc. This bill is a handout for tech companies and immigration activists. This is what America Last looks like.
Here are the other RINOs who cosponsored the bill:
Sen. Cramer, Kevin [R-ND]
Sen. Blunt, Roy [R-MO]
Sen. Collins, Susan M. [R-ME]
Sen. Moran, Jerry [R-KS]
Sen. Gardner, Cory [R-CO]
Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR]
Sen. Portman, Rob [R-OH]
Sen. Wicker, Roger F. [R-MS]
Sen. Lankford, James [R-OK]
Sen. Crapo, Mike [R-ID]
Sen. McSally, Martha [R-AZ]
Sen. Braun, Mike [R-IN]
Sen. Hoeven, John [R-ND]
Sen. Risch, James E. [R-ID]
Sen. Warner, Mark R. [D-VA]
Sen. Young, Todd [R-IN]
Sen. Romney, Mitt [R-UT]
Sen. Cornyn, John [R-TX]
Sen. Ernst, Joni [R-IA]
Sen. Murkowski, Lisa [R-AK]
This is a pretty solid list of weak Rs who always surface when there's a story about a conservative judge who can't get confirmed, a conservative bill that can't get passed, or general conservative weakness (some of these Senators have "privately" urged DJT to concede). They all need to go.
The percentage in the Senate version were still inside the current limits, not sure about the house, the breitbart article mixes both... Still swampy, but I am uncertain about actual consequence.
It doesn't raise the total number, it raises the per-country cap from 7% to 15%. It's a giveaway for China and India. It's a boon for tech companies and a loss for American workers.
Hey guys we need to control the senate so stuff like this doesn't happen...oh, wait. We already own the senate and they haven't done anything but fuck us?
Better vote in that senate runoff that way democrats can't....uhhhhh
Business as usual.
Indeed. I'm glad they can come together for a bipartisan fucking-over of everyday Americans for their big business sponsors.. I mean "donors".
Mormon like Romney flake and lee
Lee is a worm, he needs to go.
I am confused on this, the S.386 doesn't seem to add green cards, I can't tell about the house version. Lee even said he doesn't want to add more. I don't see the need to mess with all of it, and I'm sure it benefits somehow, but I am not sure it should be used as an argument against voting in GA.
It more than doubles the per-country cap on H-1B (7% to 15%) so that tech companies can hire more Indian H-1Bs. There's an 800,000 (!!!) backlog of Indian H-1Bs and tech companies want to bring them in so they can pay workers less (greater supply of workers = lower wages).
I don't think it raises the total number of H-1Bs per year, but it changes the composition of countries that get H-1Bs. If this bill is enacted, it means tech companies have more than double the amount of H-1Bs they can hire.
The version passed by the Senate is HR1044 (the bill first introduced in the House): https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1044/
S.386 is a related bill but the Senate didn't pass that.
Definitely a payout to big corps, and I don't like more from China right now. However if they don't have jobs lined up, wouldn't they still be used? Id much rather they work on jobs for the American people. Much of the news we are getting right now is aimed at demoralizing/black pilling, all of this didn't seem to change much of the end result. Admittedly, cursory glance at the bills. More worried at the presidential battle-and don't want to steal that momentum.
Country of origin is important in terms impact on particular industries. India and China are a large source of labor for the tech industry. By increasing the number of workers that get H-1Bs from these countries, it displaces American tech workers.
It changes the end result because it displaces American tech workers who would now (if it's enacted) have to compete with double the number of H-1Bs from China and India. It will depress wages as well.
This isn't about stealing momentum. We can walk and chew gum. Sen. Lee (and the other RINOs) clearly tried to push this through when they knew it would go under the radar with the presidential battles going on.
Fair enough about momentum. Still I'm seeing enough black pilling about congress and avoiding the GA vote. I wanted to look how many abstained.. as I said I was looking at the other bill that passed purely bc no objections?
Country of origin.. I suppose I was thinking more .. which jobs are more important. If they're letting in x amount anyway, is it better or worse to have them be tech jobs vs lower paying?
The median salary of H-1Bs is $98,000 so most of them are higher paying regardless. This bill is an industry handout to the tech industry.
The Senate passed by voice vote so there's no individual record of votes (don't understand why not): https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr1044
If they're letting in x amount anyway, I'd prefer that there be a greater diversity of countries of origin. Under this bill, there will be 30% Chinese and Indian H-1B workers rather than 15%. And this bill was passed at the lobbying request of technology companies and open borders groups. See here: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/bills/summary?id=hr1044-116
It goes to the general trend of loosening immigration rules and opening borders at the behest of corporations and it should be opposed. This is what globalization looks like. First it's incremental changes (7% to 15% per country but leaving the overall cap in place) and then they will question why the H-1B cap is 140,000 and there will be a well-funded effort by corporations and immigration activists to get that number raised as well.
For reference, the bill more than DOUBLES the per-country cap on family-based immigrant visas from 7% of the total number of such visas available that year to 15%.
Currently, the USA grants 140,000 green cards annually to employment-based immigrants and there's a 7% cap (i.e., 9,800) on the number of immigrants from any one country.
Basically, this bill is a fast track for tech companies to displace American workers with more Indian tech workers. Every RINO who cosponsored this bill is bought and paid for. This is an America Last bill.
In addition, it's got a nice giveaway for China and removes an offset that reduced the number of visas for individuals from China.
INSANE.
Why pass this when the economy is uncertain during COVID-19?
To know who's gaining from this bill, look at who lobbied for it: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying/bills/summary?id=hr1044-116
Companies and organizations that are clearly looking out for American workers - Google, Microsoft, Facebook, the Chamber of Commerce, the American Immigration Lawyers Association, Americans for Prosperity, IBM, etc. This bill is a handout for tech companies and immigration activists. This is what America Last looks like.
Agricultural Retailers Assn
Alphabet Inc (aka Google)
Amazon.com
American Assn/Intl Healthcare Recruitment
American Hellenic Educational Progressive Assn
American Hospital Assn
American Immigration Lawyers Assn
American Institute of Aeronautics & Astronautics
Americans for Prosperity
Applied Materials Inc
Association of American Universities
Avant Healthcare Professionals
Bipartisan Policy Center
Brown University
Brown, Robert
BSA The Software Alliance
Business Roundtable
Cisco Systems
City of San Jose, CA
Cognizant Technology Solutions
Compete America
Computing Technology Industry Assn
Cummins Inc
Deloitte LLP
EB-5 Investment Coalition
Facebook Inc
FWD.us
Health Carousel
Hewlett Packard Enterprise
IBM Corp
Immigration Hub
Immigration Voice
Information Technology Industry Council
Infosys Ltd
Institute/Electrical & Electronics Engrs
Intel Corp
Intuit Inc
Jackson Healthcare
Micron Technology
Microsoft Corp
National Assn of Indep Colleges & Univs
National Assn of Manufacturers
Oracle Corp
Partnership for a New American Economy
Principal Financial Group
Related Companies
Rutgers University
SalesForce.com
Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories
Society for Human Resource Management
Society of Hospital Medicine
Stanford University
Support Alliance of US Immigrants
Tata Sons Ltd
TechNet
TechServe Alliance
Texas Instruments
University of Texas
University of Texas/Southwestern Medical Center
US Chamber of Commerce
Vanderbilt University
Wipro
Worldwide ERC
Here are the other RINOs who cosponsored the bill:
Sen. Cramer, Kevin [R-ND] Sen. Blunt, Roy [R-MO] Sen. Collins, Susan M. [R-ME] Sen. Moran, Jerry [R-KS] Sen. Gardner, Cory [R-CO] Sen. Cotton, Tom [R-AR] Sen. Portman, Rob [R-OH] Sen. Wicker, Roger F. [R-MS] Sen. Lankford, James [R-OK] Sen. Crapo, Mike [R-ID] Sen. McSally, Martha [R-AZ] Sen. Braun, Mike [R-IN] Sen. Hoeven, John [R-ND] Sen. Risch, James E. [R-ID] Sen. Warner, Mark R. [D-VA] Sen. Young, Todd [R-IN] Sen. Romney, Mitt [R-UT] Sen. Cornyn, John [R-TX] Sen. Ernst, Joni [R-IA] Sen. Murkowski, Lisa [R-AK]
This is a pretty solid list of weak Rs who always surface when there's a story about a conservative judge who can't get confirmed, a conservative bill that can't get passed, or general conservative weakness (some of these Senators have "privately" urged DJT to concede). They all need to go.
Kamala Harris was also a cosponsor of this bill.
The percentage in the Senate version were still inside the current limits, not sure about the house, the breitbart article mixes both... Still swampy, but I am uncertain about actual consequence.
It doesn't raise the total number, it raises the per-country cap from 7% to 15%. It's a giveaway for China and India. It's a boon for tech companies and a loss for American workers.
Hey guys we need to control the senate so stuff like this doesn't happen...oh, wait. We already own the senate and they haven't done anything but fuck us?
Better vote in that senate runoff that way democrats can't....uhhhhh