i am no means a legal expert, but I think you guys are greatly exagerating a doomsday over removal of section 230.
Obviously, child porn is illegal and would be taken down by the website owner, even without section 230. How do you think other countries function? Seriously, some people here think there is no world outside the US.
Removing section 230 will have an impact, one of which is there will be increased overall censorship as websites will be forced to take down content to avoid getting sued, but I think Trump is betting that it will be a bigger headache for Big Tech rather than small companies.
Using AI and machine learning is a thing done even now, how do you think all the "election results have been called for Biden" notices get added on Twitter, or how is YouTube automatically recognizing copyrighted stuff?
It is all matter of training it and scaling it up, so they can do close to 100% of moderation automatically and in real time.
Small sites do not have that option, as running such extensive machine learning network is very resource demanding, even if you somehow manage to obtain a fully trained system that is ready to go (and you can bet the monopoly of Big Tech will gladly share theirs among themselves)
And frankly, even though I am not living in US, I do want US to keep being the tech dominant, because it is the only place where free speech and in more wider sense, freedom, is guaranteed (other countries are very much "well, yes, but actually no" about that)
The problem is Silicon Valley has enough money and a shared ideology that they can whether a storm like this.
However the other problem is that Ajit Pai and Congress are made up of cowards who refuse to enforce the law as it is written, which would give us the effect Trump needs.
Let me put it this way, once 230 is repealed then thedonald dot win will disappear the moment some /pol/ack starts ranting about kykes controlling America.
Obviously more money and resources, will always be an advantage for Big Tech, even just the number of legal team they can hire.
It all comes down to whether the projected pain is bigger for Big Tech or not. This is the same as China trade war all over again. Trump, for whatever data or advise he has got, is betting Big Tech will cave first coz they have more to lose.
That's all it is.
I don't think TDW will just vanish. Sure, they will go after it, but I'd think there be ways to temporarily work around it.
Maybe, making TDW non-public, for members only, will shield it,
or hosting it in another country.
Hey, if my pirated mangas and movie websites keep on resurrecting even after repeatedly being taken down again and again, I think TDW can survive.
A lot of it comes down to ease of access and how motivated people are to keep searching for a website after its been taken down. People are very motivated by porn and hentai. Can they similarly be motivated by politics?
The internet is a very big place and it takes a lot of work to get a website taken down, but eroding one more layer of protection is not doing us any favors. We will also be hunted and sought out to a degree we have never seen before: recall that AOC wants to put us in concentration camps.
It's not necessarily doomsday but it is bad fucking news if 230 actually gets repealed in full. We cannot hide from the world's sole superpower once they turn the eye on us.
100% agree. They are all brainwashed by that faggot Tim Pool. Every time he brings up Trump wanting 230 gone he goes fucking nuts. He goes on a tirade about how it is going to kill any small content creators. Fuck them, i would rather have my country survive then have some fuckwits make money on youtube, and they still would be capable of making money.
Like you said, other countries get along fine without it.
yep. Obviously, removing section 230 is not ideal.
But the threat and abuse of power happening right now from Big Tech outright censoring POTUS, controlling which is fact-checked news, etc, is so much bigger problem than killing small content creators/websites.
And small content creators and websites will not just die instantly, theyll find a way to survive even for medium term. It is not like Trump is saying there should be no immunity 230 permanently.
Perfect is the enemy of the good. There will be no perfect 230 solution in the near term, not without full control of Senate/ House and Presidency.
Same thing when Trump confronted China on trade deals, there are drawbacks. And RINOs whined about this is not the right approach blah blah. No pain, no gain.
I agree. Someone earlier basically said that laissez-faire capitalisms would solve the issue. They really do not see that these commy, hormone blocker, skirt wearing, cocksuckers will do anything to destroy us, turning our norms against us it not outside of their doctrine.
i am no means a legal expert, but I think you guys are greatly exagerating a doomsday over removal of section 230.
Obviously, child porn is illegal and would be taken down by the website owner, even without section 230. How do you think other countries function? Seriously, some people here think there is no world outside the US.
Removing section 230 will have an impact, one of which is there will be increased overall censorship as websites will be forced to take down content to avoid getting sued, but I think Trump is betting that it will be a bigger headache for Big Tech rather than small companies.
Big tech does not care.
Using AI and machine learning is a thing done even now, how do you think all the "election results have been called for Biden" notices get added on Twitter, or how is YouTube automatically recognizing copyrighted stuff?
It is all matter of training it and scaling it up, so they can do close to 100% of moderation automatically and in real time.
Small sites do not have that option, as running such extensive machine learning network is very resource demanding, even if you somehow manage to obtain a fully trained system that is ready to go (and you can bet the monopoly of Big Tech will gladly share theirs among themselves)
And frankly, even though I am not living in US, I do want US to keep being the tech dominant, because it is the only place where free speech and in more wider sense, freedom, is guaranteed (other countries are very much "well, yes, but actually no" about that)
The problem is Silicon Valley has enough money and a shared ideology that they can whether a storm like this.
However the other problem is that Ajit Pai and Congress are made up of cowards who refuse to enforce the law as it is written, which would give us the effect Trump needs.
Let me put it this way, once 230 is repealed then thedonald dot win will disappear the moment some /pol/ack starts ranting about kykes controlling America.
Obviously more money and resources, will always be an advantage for Big Tech, even just the number of legal team they can hire.
It all comes down to whether the projected pain is bigger for Big Tech or not. This is the same as China trade war all over again. Trump, for whatever data or advise he has got, is betting Big Tech will cave first coz they have more to lose. That's all it is.
I don't think TDW will just vanish. Sure, they will go after it, but I'd think there be ways to temporarily work around it. Maybe, making TDW non-public, for members only, will shield it, or hosting it in another country.
Hey, if my pirated mangas and movie websites keep on resurrecting even after repeatedly being taken down again and again, I think TDW can survive.
A lot of it comes down to ease of access and how motivated people are to keep searching for a website after its been taken down. People are very motivated by porn and hentai. Can they similarly be motivated by politics?
The internet is a very big place and it takes a lot of work to get a website taken down, but eroding one more layer of protection is not doing us any favors. We will also be hunted and sought out to a degree we have never seen before: recall that AOC wants to put us in concentration camps.
It's not necessarily doomsday but it is bad fucking news if 230 actually gets repealed in full. We cannot hide from the world's sole superpower once they turn the eye on us.
100% agree. They are all brainwashed by that faggot Tim Pool. Every time he brings up Trump wanting 230 gone he goes fucking nuts. He goes on a tirade about how it is going to kill any small content creators. Fuck them, i would rather have my country survive then have some fuckwits make money on youtube, and they still would be capable of making money.
Like you said, other countries get along fine without it.
yep. Obviously, removing section 230 is not ideal.
But the threat and abuse of power happening right now from Big Tech outright censoring POTUS, controlling which is fact-checked news, etc, is so much bigger problem than killing small content creators/websites.
And small content creators and websites will not just die instantly, theyll find a way to survive even for medium term. It is not like Trump is saying there should be no immunity 230 permanently.
Perfect is the enemy of the good. There will be no perfect 230 solution in the near term, not without full control of Senate/ House and Presidency.
Same thing when Trump confronted China on trade deals, there are drawbacks. And RINOs whined about this is not the right approach blah blah. No pain, no gain.
I agree. Someone earlier basically said that laissez-faire capitalisms would solve the issue. They really do not see that these commy, hormone blocker, skirt wearing, cocksuckers will do anything to destroy us, turning our norms against us it not outside of their doctrine.