You can't really argue with an opinion statement, only show that there is no protection, or that negative effects outweigh the positive. Where did he quantify "any"? If there is "any" then it is a measureable amount.
My step father was like this and would dismiss any information showing the ineffectiveness or masks. Eventually I asked him to give me information proving the effectiveness of masks, he couldn’t provide anything more than emotional articles that said things like “has some effectiveness”. Well “some effectiveness” is any number greater than 0% and less than 100%, so what is the number?
If there were standards, as in N95 mask required, than there is provable effectiveness ASSUMING the mask protocol is followed perfectly by every person wearing them, but we know that’s an impossibility. If cloth masks are effective, and we are forced to wear them, why hasn’t there been a study to prove effectiveness from those forcing their use? Wouldn’t that put the argument to bed?
You don’t have to prove the ineffectiveness or masks, they must prove the effectiveness of masks. And “feeling they work” is not scientifically quantifiable at all.
Right. most of the studies 'proving' masks work talk about droplet size and Brownian motion, and conclude "masks stop droplets, this proves masks stop Covid"
Take a different approach. Post all the BS Democraps running around without masks, and ask, "If it was a real thing, doncha think they would know, and ACT like it? So, what if they DON'T?"
Protip: just do a Google news search for "masks" "coronavirus" on a range from Jan 1-Mar 30th. Back then, the MSM was peddling 'experts' who were claiming that they're ineffective.
Yup, thank you; i've honestly been waiting since March for her to ask, i didn't force the conversation, she just brought it up because she wanted to know if I was going to get the vaccine and i said 'fuck no' and she was shocked and bewildered, thus a lengthy conversation ensued
The Mayo Clinic says the mask "MAY" help stop the spread of CV. "May" does not mean it will. They even go further to say that masks only help "SLOW" down the spread of CV. You're not gonna stop it with a mask.
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
People keep pretending that the ONLY means we have of slowing the number of infections are masks, hand washing, and social isolation of everybody (not just the ill or susceptible). The elephant in the room is the drug cocktail treatment that keeps people out of the hospital.
“I had a couple of bad days, but I started taking hydroxychloroquine, [Zithromax], and zinc, along with vitamins D3 and C," he said. "And I took a steroid nebulizer for a few days to help coat the alveoli in the lungs and protect them somewhat from the COVID virus attack.”
Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations for patients treated with controversial drug hydroxychloroquine
by Andrew Mark Miller, Social Media Producer | November 25, 2020
Definitely just go straight to Q. Put a big emphasis on the satanic abuse rituals and how Hillary Clinton eats aborted fetuses for breakfast because they're the main ingredient in the fabled Elixir of Life. (This might be satire).
EDIT (since it wasn't clear to everyone): The above is definitely satire.
I liked Tim Woods' talk about the "Cult of Covid" though. Not necessarily proof that masks are bogus, but highlights the legislative implications of the mandates and how pointless they are. Youtube removed it (nothing to hide, they say), but you can still find it elsewhere. https://vimeo.com/483358807
Did you show her the side of the box that says they don't protect against COVID or any viruses?
Fauci is > whatever the box says, because 'any protection' is better than 'no protection'.
You can't really argue with an opinion statement, only show that there is no protection, or that negative effects outweigh the positive. Where did he quantify "any"? If there is "any" then it is a measureable amount.
My step father was like this and would dismiss any information showing the ineffectiveness or masks. Eventually I asked him to give me information proving the effectiveness of masks, he couldn’t provide anything more than emotional articles that said things like “has some effectiveness”. Well “some effectiveness” is any number greater than 0% and less than 100%, so what is the number?
If there were standards, as in N95 mask required, than there is provable effectiveness ASSUMING the mask protocol is followed perfectly by every person wearing them, but we know that’s an impossibility. If cloth masks are effective, and we are forced to wear them, why hasn’t there been a study to prove effectiveness from those forcing their use? Wouldn’t that put the argument to bed?
You don’t have to prove the ineffectiveness or masks, they must prove the effectiveness of masks. And “feeling they work” is not scientifically quantifiable at all.
Right. most of the studies 'proving' masks work talk about droplet size and Brownian motion, and conclude "masks stop droplets, this proves masks stop Covid"
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372
Take a different approach. Post all the BS Democraps running around without masks, and ask, "If it was a real thing, doncha think they would know, and ACT like it? So, what if they DON'T?"
Protip: just do a Google news search for "masks" "coronavirus" on a range from Jan 1-Mar 30th. Back then, the MSM was peddling 'experts' who were claiming that they're ineffective.
US surgeon general tweet: https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/status/1233726563881029632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
USAToday citing the CDC: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/03/23/homemade-coronavirus-masks-do-they-actually-block-spread/2899622001/
CNN citing Vanderbilt medicine professor: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/coronavirus-mask-hysteria-us-trnd/index.html
BBC citing NHS medical director: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51729647
CNN citing WHO: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/30/world/coronavirus-who-masks-recommendation-trnd/index.html
send her also this: https://web.archive.org/web/20201122214034/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19
and the WHO data reagrding influenza infections: https://www.who.int/influenza/gisrs_laboratory/updates/flunet_globalviruscirculation_20200522.pdf https://www.who.int/influenza/gisrs_laboratory/updates/flunet_globalviruscirculation_20201120.pdf?ua=1
dropped to zero:D
Yup, thank you; i've honestly been waiting since March for her to ask, i didn't force the conversation, she just brought it up because she wanted to know if I was going to get the vaccine and i said 'fuck no' and she was shocked and bewildered, thus a lengthy conversation ensued
charts and graphs if those speak her language
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/29/these-12-graphs-show-mask-mandates-do-nothing-to-stop-covid/
very helpful thank you!
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/
Just click it and read. You will understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkdTyZ9xd_g
great video showing aerosols going through all mask. You think a microscopic virus is going to be stopped? No way!
beautiful, thanks
https://twitter.com/nickpineault1/status/1316744440917250049
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1332106885080645632
The Mayo Clinic says the mask "MAY" help stop the spread of CV. "May" does not mean it will. They even go further to say that masks only help "SLOW" down the spread of CV. You're not gonna stop it with a mask.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
Masks don’t work; wash your hands, if only to prevent other kinds of diseases
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza.
Disclosure on maks packaging
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/face-masks-mandated-uk-government-specifically-say-they-dont-protect-against-covid-19
Think ear-loop masks trap Covid in the mask? -- Watch this! https://mobile.twitter.com/RepStevenSmith/status/1283439295655817216
Tony Fauci video https://streamable.com/oml2rf
People keep pretending that the ONLY means we have of slowing the number of infections are masks, hand washing, and social isolation of everybody (not just the ill or susceptible). The elephant in the room is the drug cocktail treatment that keeps people out of the hospital.
Swiss Policy Research — Face Masks
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
Louie Gohmert is COVID-19-free, and he credits hydroxychloroquine by Susan Ferrechio, Chief Congressional Correspondent | | August 15, 2020
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/louie-gohmert-is-covid-19-free-and-he-credits-hydroxychloroquine
Study finds 84% fewer hospitalizations for patients treated with controversial drug hydroxychloroquine by Andrew Mark Miller, Social Media Producer | November 25, 2020
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/study-finds-84-fewer-hospitalizations-for-patients-treated-with-controversial-drug-hydroxychloroquine
Definitely just go straight to Q. Put a big emphasis on the satanic abuse rituals and how Hillary Clinton eats aborted fetuses for breakfast because they're the main ingredient in the fabled Elixir of Life. (This might be satire).
EDIT (since it wasn't clear to everyone): The above is definitely satire.
I liked Tim Woods' talk about the "Cult of Covid" though. Not necessarily proof that masks are bogus, but highlights the legislative implications of the mandates and how pointless they are. Youtube removed it (nothing to hide, they say), but you can still find it elsewhere. https://vimeo.com/483358807
a lot of people knew about satanic ritual sh*t before Q or Trump
Yeah. They "knew" it since the 80s.
I'd say long before then..