When you read CATO , remember that he stole reserved retirement lands from legion veterans and lands reserved for a moderate lease by their widows and the disabled by using nominal owners, paid them peanuts for the rights.
Cato was an Optimate, he believed the ancientness of his house and wealth put him above all other Romans, in a select group. Like Bill Gates.
Caesar did right by his troops, instituted a ton of reforms, pardoned his enemies, and ruled justly. The Roman Senate at the time was a clear majority of Elitists. They demanded he basically commit suicide by coming to Rome without his Legions to be killed, after winning countless victories. Pompey was suborned by being invited into the Elite class and betrayed his friend Caesar and the People. They also "mass migrated" countless slaves which took away the jobs of the ordinary Roman Citizens and gave them a little Anona - welfare - in compensation. Sound familiar?
Amen, always nice to see another lover of roman history. People call Caesar and Augustus tyrants but they forget that they brought upon the best of times for Rome. From Augustus to Marcus Aurelius the empire prospered. And while from Commudus to Alexander Severus things got worse they were still peaceful and ok.
Well, helps when by the time the empire comes around you've subdued (in different extremes) the Gauls, Greeks, Carthaginians, Egyptians, and Parthians. You've also just had 2 civil wars with manpower from surrounding areas like Spain and the rest of Italy.
Things like Pax Romana had less to do with Augustus himself and more to do with the foundation set before him.
The foundation he built upon was terrible. The late republic was unstable as fuck. It’s economy had gone to shit because of the land owners gobbled up the soldiers farms. Germans invaded inflicting several cannae level defeats. Wars with mithridates in the east. And at home the political situation had deteriorated greatly. The first century BC was full of internal wars, from the social war to the final war of the republic. Augustus ended the wars between the Romans and made massive reforms that allowed for Pax Romana.
Can you imagine the Roman crazy Nancy, Crying Chuck, Mad Max-ine and Schiftty Schift demanding welfare for the barbarians, kneeling in the senate to virtue signal and using facial diapers during the Antonine Plague?
Cato really wanted him gone for good, he was extremely popular and if they exiled him, he was wealthy and influential enough to raise legions.
I lean towards Cato and Optimates demanding Execution. They were unbelievably stubborn and both Pompey Magnus & Cicero's compromises were rejected by Cato and the Optimates.
Even just one province and two legions they rejected.
When you read CATO , remember that he stole reserved retirement lands from legion veterans and lands reserved for a moderate lease by their widows and the disabled by using nominal owners, paid them peanuts for the rights.
Cato was an Optimate, he believed the ancientness of his house and wealth put him above all other Romans, in a select group. Like Bill Gates.
Caesar did right by his troops, instituted a ton of reforms, pardoned his enemies, and ruled justly. The Roman Senate at the time was a clear majority of Elitists. They demanded he basically commit suicide by coming to Rome without his Legions to be killed, after winning countless victories. Pompey was suborned by being invited into the Elite class and betrayed his friend Caesar and the People. They also "mass migrated" countless slaves which took away the jobs of the ordinary Roman Citizens and gave them a little Anona - welfare - in compensation. Sound familiar?
Amen, always nice to see another lover of roman history. People call Caesar and Augustus tyrants but they forget that they brought upon the best of times for Rome. From Augustus to Marcus Aurelius the empire prospered. And while from Commudus to Alexander Severus things got worse they were still peaceful and ok.
Well, helps when by the time the empire comes around you've subdued (in different extremes) the Gauls, Greeks, Carthaginians, Egyptians, and Parthians. You've also just had 2 civil wars with manpower from surrounding areas like Spain and the rest of Italy.
Things like Pax Romana had less to do with Augustus himself and more to do with the foundation set before him.
The foundation he built upon was terrible. The late republic was unstable as fuck. It’s economy had gone to shit because of the land owners gobbled up the soldiers farms. Germans invaded inflicting several cannae level defeats. Wars with mithridates in the east. And at home the political situation had deteriorated greatly. The first century BC was full of internal wars, from the social war to the final war of the republic. Augustus ended the wars between the Romans and made massive reforms that allowed for Pax Romana.
Can you imagine the Roman crazy Nancy, Crying Chuck, Mad Max-ine and Schiftty Schift demanding welfare for the barbarians, kneeling in the senate to virtue signal and using facial diapers during the Antonine Plague?
They would not have killed him, he would've been exiled.
Cato really wanted him gone for good, he was extremely popular and if they exiled him, he was wealthy and influential enough to raise legions.
I lean towards Cato and Optimates demanding Execution. They were unbelievably stubborn and both Pompey Magnus & Cicero's compromises were rejected by Cato and the Optimates.
Even just one province and two legions they rejected.