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james7370 4 points ago +4 / -0

The fact you are even considering the individual to be a force onto his own and be entirely responsible for himself and what he accompishes are western values. These are ideas which are guiding your disagreement with me.

lol I mean you're arguing individualism with me, but can't recognise that individualism is directly attributableto the western enlightenment. Which honestly proves the proud boys right lol.

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james7370 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've already explained a 100 times proud boys say they are western chauvinst.

Western Chauvinism was the foundation of the modern world which is why Proud boys say they created the modern world.

Just like I would say I'm american and that we won the second world war because even though I didn't fight , my team fought and won.

So on the basis of embodiment of Ideas I would say Yes

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james7370 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol no I would say we. Like I would say We landed on the moon, We won world war2, and We invented the modern world.