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Yeah I think he needs to make the case to more americans first. People like us already know. He’s not doing all of the lawsuits for us. But in order to get enough support to take executive action like that, he needs to convince Americans it was and is being stolen. The longer this goes on the more irrefutable evidence will become.
"irrefutable" is one of those words where there aren't really gradations; it's a binary thing
how can something become more irrefutable, if you don't mind my asking? "the closer to irrefutable this small mountain of evidence becomes"? "the more difficult it is for the left to seriously challenge it"? i mean- it kind of reminds me of what the left did with all those women who totally credibly accused trump of sexual misconduct. it's, i guess, what we could call an "evidence bomb." sort through it. find, arrest, enforce, charge, and sentence for the big stuff which can be proven in a court of law. we can talk about the smaller stuff later once the big fish are taken care of
optically, i absolutely agree. but the thing with that is- the left can read a story about an illegal entrant raping and killing people and turn right around and talk about how illegal immigration is a net benefit. gun-free zones. "science" vs. gender activism. the list goes on and on. the "middle" might see it and scratch their head a little bit, but leftist media will screech harder than they ever have, and i don't know where we'd go from there. they've basically been turned up to 11 since he came down that escalator with melania and delivered his first campaign speech
so- just want to be clear on what you're saying here: take them on free rides in fancy sky machines with free skydiving lessons, or are you talking about scattering their cremated ashes to the wind?
That is true, but I think Trump knows there are more Americans and Patriots among us than we might expect. I am all for him going martial law, which honestly at this rate is probably what is going to have to happen. But while he doesn't need to convince everyone or even a majority, he is still going to need a plurality of support to make that happen.
Like the American Revolution, I think it was barely over a 1/3 of people even supported the revolution, with a third supporting allegiance to the crown, with the rest basically "I really dgaf, just leave me alone" But despite not even HALF, our founding fathers were able to rally enough support to make the greatest change in human history!
Although I suppose one could argue Trump already has enough support, and maybe that's true, but I think the more the better. I know for certain that the Georgia videos were the tipping point for at least 1 person I know.
yeah- the left is gonna lose their shit any way/at whatever speed the shit hits the proverbial fan. i think it'd be more of a state-by-state "martial law" scenario until it was a full-on, countrywide civil conflict or whatever you want to call it- where people are driving state to state to go stack bodies somewhere else
trump has the support; for sure. reforming the RNC seems less worth the headache with each passing election ngl. again- we're open to it for sure, and we're definitely not alone
bro STFU.. you know what the poster was saying. You're writing paragraphs about semantics and the thing is, the original poster is right. There IS already irrefutable evidence that anyone can objectively look at and say "yes, that is fraud".
Would it help if the people here at thedonald.win and elsewhere kept spreading the information as much as possible (which many people are already doing in multiple different ways)?
It might be time for martial law. Consider these facts:
With martial law, the military may make arrests. (Think Special Ops.)
Gitmo has been expanded, and fencing reinforced.
Firing squads have been authorized once again.
A new Secretary of Denfense has been appointed, and the Speical Ops Forces now report to him.
Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, so there is a precedent for simply grabbing the traitors, and throwing them in prison, while they await trial or a military tribunal.
Kavanaugh, during his Senate Judiciary hearings, was asked if it was legal to try U.S. civilians in military courts, to which he answered it is.
Trump's EO regarding foreign election interference gives him sweeping powers to administer justice.
A server, used to count our election votes, was domiciled in a foreign country.
When you connect all of these dots, it sure looks like something is in the works.
Tim Pool in one of his videos this week pointed out an article that summarized that DHS, FBI are all stockpiling weapons, ammo, armored trucks and other supplies.
DHS and FBI not on our side.
the swamp has been playing one step ahead of Trump this whole way. They seem to have accurately gauged how GOP across all the states and on Federal level would react to their steal. They seem to have accounted for the courts.
The only move he has left to win is Insurrection Act. That makes that move so very predictable.
New Secretary of Defense is Christopher C. Miller. All I see is a man who had his whole military career under Bush and Obama, than was a 'defense contractor'.
So far, what exactly makes you trust him, at all? That Trump appointed him... as he has all the other people who betrayed him? Or that the GOP Senate confirmed him.
Tl,DR - I don't want to sow black pills here, but for people calling for civil war or Insurrection Act, they need to realize that by far majority of signs point to US military siding with the establishment and not the people.
Do they stream OANN and Newmax across military bases? or have 95% of our serviceman spent this year looking at events through CNN and MSNBC?
What makes me trust him are the two patriots that work for him: Ezra Cohen-Watnick, and Kash Patel; and the fact that he made all Special Forces directly reportable to him. It may come down to Special Ops vs. the three letter agencies. McInerney implied this has already happened in Germany, when taking the election server.
Obama wrote a lot of EO's transferring technology, equipment, supplies, facilities, manpower, and authority away from the DOD and gave it all to the DHS. The DHS should never be trusted. DHS, like the FBI need to be purged, disbanded, and replaced.
To be fair... Who else’s military would Miller have served under genus? Lol tf you talking about? You can’t time travel around to serve under administrations you want.. You serve under whatever admin is in power, period... you’re not serving admins, you serve YOUR COUNTRY.
I am just used to assuming that military 'defense' contractors are all swamp. There is a bit of a difference between a serviceman who retires to take a civilian job in US, and one who decides to stick around in Iraq or something, years after WMD narrative fell apart.
Except the WMD narrative didn't fall apart, the results were just concealed (and confirmed by Wikileaks). People seem to be under the mistaken assumption that "the swamp" is some homogeneous group when it isn't.
"The WMD narrative' had nothing to do with citizens becoming soldiers, then contractors. You have some SERIOUS catching up to do, but in brief:
Saddam violated the terms of his ceasefire. He couldve been fired upon immediately, legally. The threat was IF he developed WMD, he wouldn't hesitate to use them.
We shouldve gotten out as soon as their potential to be a threat was dismantled. That gets quite distinct between Afghanistan and Iraq.
4D chess would have been preventing the election theft and actually winning the election, not frantically putting cases together after the fact and pinning the path on a bunch of government fuckheads and partisan judges.
That’s the temporary solution. The President is going for a permanent one.
Sure, he could have won his own election with premonition and advance action, but then none of this would have been uncovered and they go right back to business as usual in the next one.
This method gets it all out in front of the people so they can see, in no uncertain terms, that our elections are inherently insecure and there’s massive amounts of fraud coming from every avenue.
It may not be as pretty and elegant as you’d expect, but politics and law are always messy endeavors.
Nothing good in life comes that easy, champ. Sometimes you have to shoot from the hip, and piece it together as you go. This is usually the measuring stick of true leadership. So, take notes...
Nothing to add to your comment, but I wanted to point out the delusional people responding that this was all somehow "the plan" or was "allowed to happen" by the President because he's just thinking so far ahead of everyone else. This is straight Q-level delusional bullshit. I"m surprised they're not all saying "don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" for the eight millionth time acting like it's a big trap at this point.
It's been said by someone for what 100+ years? It's a pretty solid tactical proverb that doesn't diminish by repetition. It could very well be a big trap. The big question that will resolve it is will the trap catch anyone? A trap is worthless if you walk in and out of it. But unlike real traps, you can be caught for stuff you've done years later. I'm not a q person, and I don't have basically any of these answers but if you have an ace up your sleeve that nobody knows about you can be braver than most think you should be, unknowing. Now, all that said, I'm as ready as the next pede wanting people to be convicted of crimes they have committed. I think that will happen though after the election is locked in. Because if you arrest some people at the cost of losing the election then we all lose.
Also a lot of those generals are ring knockers. Fuck those service academy weirdos. Worst officers I ever served under were from The Point or The Citadel.
Not every officer I’ve served under who was minted at a service academy was horrible. On the other hand, every single horrible officer I had the misfortune of serving under WAS a service academy grad.
This... who needs a bunch of college boy fags that don’t know their elbow from their asshoe. NCOs run the military, not fag officers with an SJW, antiAmerican education. 🖕🏼officers. I’ve only ever served or known a few that were worth their pay in all my yrs of service, and the best officers are always NCOs who went officer, by far, not even an argument.
Theres a reason the Army National Guard has Special Forces, outside of Utah almost all of the SF units are located in heavy blue states. Don't forget the 91st Cyber Brigade from the Virginia Army National Guard.
Don't trust the leadership at National Guard Bureau.
They've been preparing for this for awhile, and have ensured senior leadership in DC, Maryland, Virginia, Washington State, and California comply with the orders from the swamp.
national guard isn't shit. they have almost zero chance of facing off against an armed citizenry. and, they would likely never fire upon american patriots.
Both sides will roll out the Army National Guard long before the Active Duty even gets a phone call.
The National Guard won't have to fight against an armed citizenry, nor is the Virginia Army National Guard going to move on DC to liberate the White House.
I don't know how much you know about the Army National Guard, but the Guard has deployed more Combat Arms Soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan since 9/11 than the Active Duty Army and Marine Corps Combined.
The Guard also has the only world wide operational SF Teams (20th Group) meaning they can operate within our borders and be the alibi for three letter agencies to assist in operations. 19th Groups primary focus is the Asian Pacific, however they can also conduct missions within our borders.
You might recognize some of their adventures in fictional movies like Sicario.
Outside of the 91st Cyber, I'd pay attention to those units and the states they belong too. Typically Guard SF units are on active duty orders 6 months at a time for training, whats important to know is if they get moved from Title-32 to Title-10.
Career politician type generals (mostly USAF, and I say this as a usaf veteran) are complicit in the third world taxpayer money funnel that our RINOs love so dearly.
Theres a reason why so many pentagon flag officers retire and go across the 395 for a job in Crystal City........ You can see the Military Industrial Complex from the parking lot.
Those are city cops. I’m out in the sticks in California, and we went to a public Christmas party last night and maybe 30% of the people were wearing masks, hardly anybody was social distancing, and the cops never raided us.
Our Sheriffs have already told us too that they won’t enforce any lockdown orders from Gavin either.
City cops have always been pieces of shit, with a few rare good ones, but as soon as you get outside the concrete jungle they turn back into Mayberry.
Not in most of the Country they haven't. Sounds like you've only ever been to or even heard of a D controlled hellhole. Have you considered getting out from behind enemy lines?
Yeah I fucking hate the police now. Some are cool ig, but most of them suck. Before BLM, most people hated cops regardless of whether they’re liberal or conservative.
Also, can you show me examples of the generals who subverted Trump? The media doesn’t really talk much about the military tbh, and I don’t find much about it here.
Shut up. When all the police you come across don’t do their fucking job, and everyone around you says the same thing, and you see videos of them abusing their power and not actually doing their job, on top of people all over the Internet getting angry at them for not doing their fucking job, coupled with the fact that both liberals AND many conservatives are pissed off at them—YES most of them. Go fuck yourself buddy.
Well that fucking blows. Your country should come before your career, especially in the armed forces. It’s okay to have a backup, but doing what’s good for the country is more important than doing what’s good for you. American lives are more important than your desired career choice. Fuck those neocons.
Understand where it comes from. "The slow march through the institutions" started in 1913. 107 years they've been planning what we're now living through. We have every other advantage.
Yesterday explains why Rs turn RINO. Your daughter's bf is killed via perfect crime, you understand your daughter could be next. And/or you. That's the stick. The carrot is legalized bribery aka lobbying, and the many other means of paying politicians far more than their salary. What We the People pay them isn't even a good tip by comparison. They work for who pays them just like anybody else.
Once you understand the scope of what we're up against, you realize that any effective counter has to be BIG. As in, all of us. When I say Rubicon Don, here's the solution:
So then we’d just have to ban all lobbying groups, organizations, and corporations from being able to donate to politicians and political parties (and their family members). And make donating to politicians non-tax deductible (to dissuade corrupt people from being able to donate as much every year). And then make their largest donators/contributors public knowledge/more easily accessible.
We'd have to do what no one is willing to do...stop depending on some 3rd party to see the light and save us. Instead we'd have to put our lives on the line and start dirt napping our "elites" in academia, the media, corporations, and government. We'd have to be willing to rebuild our institutions from the ground level.
It won't happen. Too many cling to what they have and choose to hope they won't be affected too much by the new order.
The comments contain must reading. This doesn't rely on our military, either. We'd outnumber them over 100:1 anyway. They could watch from the sidelines, which would maybe be best.
After 12/14. Perhaps even after 1/6 when Congress finalizes who is ro be inaugurated on 1/20. Pence will preside over that meeting. This will exhaust every last option, and still give 2 weeks to muster and conclude appropriately. Mark the date
This will be a real test to see if we are still a Free country or controlled by the deep state. If he declares martial law and the military I want back him we can just pack it up and call it a day. But we need to know. So we can prepare for the coming years. They won’t be pretty. I foresee a lot of helicopter rides.
These colors don't run. We outnumber the military 100:1. That's just Trump supporting gun owners. The military could stay on the sidelines and be irrelevant. It's easy to say that would be best.
"Packing it in and calling it a day" implies forfeiting everything this Nation ever stood for, without even a whimper. If you've never seen Arlington National cemetery, you can tour it online. WAY too much has been sacrificed to do what I'm interpreting your words to mean. U hope I'm misunderstanding you, and you'll explain.
Holding a new election for POTUS, no. The unorganized militia outnumbers the military 100:1. That's just Trump supporting gun owners. There's solid legal footing for this:
And start his own party. Y’all can argue about the name, I couldn’t care less. If 80 million people changed their registration to his party in a few days time, there’s no way anyone could argue against the Trump mandate.
Trump has 95% approval from Republican voters. The solution is not for 95% to leave a party for the sake of 5% - the solution is to oust the 5%.
Last time someone like Trump ran third party it was Teddy Roosevelt in 1912. All that happened is that it split the conservative vote and Woodrow Wilson won the Presidency. Woodrow Wilson is the worst President of our nation's history and his term was the root of almost all our current problems. We have been paying the price of Teddy running third party for 100 years...let's not do that again.
If you know Lord of the Rings, that's the analogy I use. What FDR did was not possible without the corrosion caused by Wilson. LBJ was just there to deliver the killshot, by that time the country already had a terminal illness.
I do not go back further than Wilson because the Democrats were soundly defeated during the Civil War and Reconstruction era. Wilson was the moment they breached back inside our institutions.
Does not apply to runoff elections in GA. Barrage all Senators about the bills in the OP though! This matters because both should be vetoed, so our Senators have the chance to get this right.
Exactly this. People wanting to split off are peak stupid. You don't shut down or break away from a company just because some of the employees suck, you get new management. The problem? A lot of people demanding new management but not stepping up and being said new management.
Conservatives have fallen behind in both the political sector as well as the tech sector because both of those areas weren't considered "real jobs" for a long time.
60 should be more than enough, though- which is closer to what i think it'd actually be. husband and i would absolutely drop the republicans like a rock if given the chance
Please read upthread a few. He gives a solid account of how Wilson got in, and gave us all the problems we face now
Primaries are the time to replace our weak links. Barrage both your Senators over the issues in the OP! If either is an R, make it clear they'll be primaried if they don't get it right after Trump vetoes these bills.
Also, our military budget is complex enough to deserve its own bill. Section 230 should be dealt with on its own.
Some failed party from 50 years ago in a country thousands of miles away that's like the size of one US state took the lion...and now the lion symbol is theirs?
A lion is a lion. Red is red. When I think of a red lion insignia I think of Gryffindor if anything. But there's no way in hell that a small European socialist party from the 70s is going to have rights over being lions.
Look at the history of how Wilson got in and gave us the problems we face now. Upthread a bit it's spelled out well. Getting rid of our weak links in primaries is the solution.
He’s prepared to do it I think, but waiting until the last possible second. Every out is being given to the deep state while also waking up the masses to what’s going on. That being said, out with them all. All of these traitors, liars, two faced scumbags. The deep state is country and party wide. The Republican vs Democrat argument is nothing more than a dog and pony show designed to distract us. How can the deep state lose when we keep supporting deep state Republicans and defending them while they make it look like they fought the good fight? Trump is so refreshing because he’s what it looks like when someone elected actually carries out they will of the people vs the appearance of doing so. Tell me I’m wrong....
I really don’t think that anyone who hasn’t woken up already is going to. If you haven’t questioned the election by now, you’re just dead weight.
I understand that there are some boomers out there who might not know any better and CAN still wake up, but they aren’t the type of people who will help us in a civil war because they’re too old. Plus, if they haven’t resisted the Dems and globalists by now, then they won’t resist Trump declaring martial law and invoking the Insurrection Act either. Fuck ‘em, I say.
I respectfully disagree with your initial point that people are either already awake or aren't going to. IMO, more people are waking up every day. It's a slower process than we'd like because many people aren't out of the msm bubble. The vast amount of indoctrination and misinformation is staggering. Media outlets like OAN and RSBN are getting more exposure, as is TD.win. The amount of information that flows from this site is extremely valuable in redpilling people as it's a constant stream of beating down the indoctrination that goes on. And it's not just 'boomers'. Nor just 'millennials'. There's a bunch of based pedes across the age and race spectrum. If we continue separating and labeling people into various groups, we are defeating ourselves and falling into the lefts identity politics.
Back to your original point, there are also many that will never wake up and we see that everyday with the blm and antifa types. Fuck those people. But we shouldn't write off a whole swath of potential allies just yet.
You missed my second point, or perhaps I didn’t tie it in to my first so well.
The people who are waking up right now aren’t actually important to our cause. They won’t stand up and fight alongside us. And we know this because anyone who is that asleep simply doesn’t care enough about the election fraud to be one of those who will fight.
If you’re just waking up right now, then you don’t take this seriously enough. You should have woken up a long time ago.
I’d also like to add that these people won’t fight against us either if they suddenly develop a negative opinion of us. How do I know? Well, if you’ve been complacent about the election fraud that much and won’t stand up to the Dems, then you definitely won’t stand up to us either. Like I said, fuck ‘em. You have to do your own due diligence. If you don’t, that simply means that you don’t care enough, so move out of the way.
I guess we'll agree to disagree. I believe that the people waking up now are important. IMO, you're making a judgement call based on when the light bulb finally went off in someones head. I may have become aware of things 10 or 20 years ago, but that doesn't necessarily make me any more valuable than someone who figured it out yesterday. Maybe the person who woke up yesterday has way more influence or resources than I do. If one wakes up now and tries to make a difference is more valuable than someone who figured it out years ago and does nothing. I totally understand your logic. I respectfully think it's flawed. You are making some false assumptions. "You should've woken up a long time ago." Why? Maybe something changed in someones life, or they met someone who positively influenced them. Or the light bulb just went on since November 3rd. I don't think it matters when, but rather what someone does when they finally figure it out.
How influential someone may or may not be doesn’t matter as much as you think because every person who is waking up now is essentially just another you or me. We aren’t too influential on our own, it’s only en masses that we are. Problem is, these people won’t be with us, because the type of person who WILL be with us is ALSO the type of person who would have ALREADY been looking into all this stuff on their own and with much greater intensity than your average NPC, meaning that they likely would have already woken up by now.
There may be some people who’ll get up in arms about it, but at this point it won’t change the outcome in any meaningful way. We’ve already got enough people on Trump’s side to take the DS on, and I don’t think they’re gonna do the right thing and let Trump win. At this point, I just see it as wasting time. That’s all. (There’s obviously a lot more going on behind the scenes in the Pentagon unrelated to this, that should be dealt with on its own; but I don’t think waking people up matters anymore because we’ve already got more than enough people as it is imo).
Many are just now starting to think maybe there IS evidence of fraud. No Judge has heard any yet. If this changes that will help a LOT. 80 million ar med patriots won't muster in DC without the people you wrongly despise.
"Last possible minute." It's important to know the timeline. All other options aren't exhausted until the meeting 1 PM on 1/6 when Congress picks who gets inaugurated next. VP Pence presiding. That gives 2 weeks to muster and conclude appropriately. We had an AMA with a State legislator this past summer. He said the thing to do would be to amass in DC and don't move. Shut everything down. 12/14 is another possible date.
We have had many threads naming the good ones. There's more than a few. Contact BOTH your Senators about the 2 bills in the OP, it's not too late! Trump should veto them both, giving them a chance to get it right this time.
If you look up who the biggest Republican donors are and who the biggest Democrat donors are you’ll find that they’re mostly all members of the same tribe and suddenly our foreign policy priorities start to make sense
Like boomers have room to talk. Boomers and older "pedes" are just economic communists that pretend to MAGA when it suits their bank account.
Before we were born, they voted in politicians that would give them infinite money in the form of SS and Medicare, just like minorities vote in Democrats that will give them infinite handouts. And now both of them are telling us it's our moral responsibility to pay for their reparations/retirement.
Social Security is just UBI for Republicans. Boomers put in $72 and they get $96 back, but those extra dollars are stolen straight from our paychecks.
We're having to budget away ~35% of our income, payable directly to boomers through Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, purely because they didn't feel like doing it when they were our age. Even Trump knows it's unreasonable and has been talking about ways to lessen the required individual contributions through tax cuts.
You're not advancing any cause but the deep state's divide and conquer strategy. Entitlements started before any baby boomer was conceived. You are correct they're a problem, and I understand why you're angry about it.
If ranting helps you fine, but we need solutions. Unfunded liabilities will only get worse if Biden were to get in, God forbid. That won't be stopped without the people you love to hate. Straighten up, soldier! This is a coup. There is no evidence of an election.
You tried to dodge every single one of my points with "well uh, that's just too bad. suck it up and pay for my retirement, runt because, uh, MAGA. ...soldier," but that won't work.
It's only "handouts" until we're talking about boomers, then suddenly everything is "unfunded liabilities."
Word games are for leftists. You're stealing from us to fund your retirement and healthcare because you didn't feel like saving when you were our age. Find a solution? Sure. Downsize and sell your junk until you can make ends meet.
It's about time that baby boomers were the ones living in apartments and freeing up houses for the rest of us to start new families. The only reason you guys can afford to stay out of apartments is because you're taking rent money from us anyways.
Give me a fucking break and stop playing stupid on purpose.
"huurrr people are individuals durrrr!"
Yeah, no shit.
What I'm doing is parsing out a piece of American history by quantifying it's culture as it relates to its populace. This can easily be done by evaluating generations of individuals through what time period and culture they were raised in.
This is common practice, and definitely isn't something new. So you're either playing stupid on purpose to get your argument to work, or you're trolling.
We the people generate more and more wealth, which generates more and more tax revenue yet our nation and spending power has been in a steady decline for decades. It’s long been crystal clear the government is doing the exact opposite of helping us in any way.
Is this implying that govt workers suck and are just in it for the free ride of bureaucracy? I mean, how many people are "at the top" benefiting from this?
It’s not about government workers. That is just a smoke screen. It’s about billionaire plutocrats across the world implementing the “great reset” or whatever it was. The Soros and Gates of the world. The faggots that gather at Bohemian Grove. See, the robber barons were too bold and obvious. The next generations of billionaires have learned to fly below the radar for the most part and they have slowly been sucking the resources from the people. Capital is not and never was our friend. After the Great Depression we were able to claw back some of our resources and freedom from the billionaire class, but it’s back to how it always was. I am a minarchist by nature, but you can’t have unrestricted capitalism because the deck is already stacked. The power is concentrated now so there is no such thing as real capitalism until the Soros and Gates of the world are stripped of their power. People rail against Soros and Gates here a lot but the Koch’s and Mercers and Buffets and Devoses all work together and eat at the same table. They are more than happy for the proletariat to fixate on the outwardly liberal members of their group. But they are all the same. They made a mistake supporting Trump. They thought they could control him, but they were wrong.
You're missing some very important stuff, even though you've got some things right. Learn how we got where we are now:
the Titanic sunk in 1912, owned by JP Morgan, with those opposed to creating the Fed on board. The Fed was created in 1913, while Congress was out on Christmas break. JP Morgan was an owner, as was one Congress critter who voted.
Russia turned into the USSR 1917-1921, with the same people profiting.
CFR established in 1921, along with its Sister organization in England, by Cecil Rhodes the Father of apartheid. This begins their undue influence over academia, and fortifies their "slow march through the institutions."
Fast forward to now, and only this year has a critical mass of people realized what's going on. And now we can't even use the term "awake" to describe it?
They've been planning what we now face for 107 years. We have every other advantage. And we have little time to USE them.
This is the kind of conspiracy theory I believe. I had read this idea before about the titanic and academia and generally agree. There is a difference in QAnon conspiracy theory (bullshit IMO) and fact based conspiracy theory that only takes a little imagination to fill in the blanks
The blanks are filled in, takes no imagination. Only reading about 500 pages. I would suggest starting in the back with the bibliography, just to see all the authors referenced over hundreds of years in this incredibly well researched work. Plus, it's online and free! Although the online version has lots of 'internet degradation,' formatting syntax popping out, etc.
The Creature From Jekyll Island
A light, fun read. Should be required reading, imho.
The big picture view is that it's very few, WAY less than 1%. Best if we could just focus on defeating them, but they're largely out of our reach. A whole post could be devoted to this topic.
What can we do about it NOW? We have pressing issues, obviously.
New party for a New Era of American Prosperity. Just imagine what we could do if we ever successfully bucked off the oppressive Administrative State...the possibilities are endless srs
It will be much easier to take over the Republican party, once the major criminals are in prison. It's a top down problem, wacking off a few heads gets us to a better place quickly.
I respectfully disagree. I think a new party would send the loudest message. If we got 50-80 million Trump voters to switch parties overnight, there would be no way anyone could argue against the Trump mandate.
You're absolutely right there's a slice of the Trump coalition that would really like a new party, to respectfully disagree with you I would say there is a much larger portion of trump supporters that are Evangelical older Americans much more conservative and I don't mean that politically I mean in the way they do things.
The trumptastic coalition is a HUUUUGGGGEEE tent with historic gains for the GOP with blacks, hispanics, Korean roof guards, folks thst personally felt the effects of Donald J Trump's presidency. Imagine the number of black voters that will vote Republican if the president asked them to in 2022.
The very word Republic is very strong for us as well. It's the type of government we want, localities governing themselves under the overarching ruleset of the constitution. We should take it back, not abandon it.
The quickest way to fix the Republican (Republic party) is to start putting swamp dwellers in jail that traitor in Georgia should be on the next black flight to Gitmo!!
Yeah... Comparing Trump to Roosevelt. History repeats often, but if you think 2020 is a repeat of any historical moment, I have a bridge to sell you. Telling someone to “please learn” is some low grade reddit or twatter faggotry. Keep that shit out of here.
Yes. We are. We consider it and believe that we would in no way be making the same mistake.
We’ve voted for Rs in the past who have betrayed us. Along comes Trump. Did we stay home and not vote simply because we had Romney and McCain to vote for preceding him? No, we knew he was different. We knew he could do what he promised.
Those of us looking to form a new party also see that this is different. This isn’t a third party that would leave anyone left in the original two parties except the fringes. This would be comprised of about 60 million former Rs and about 30 million former Ds.
Your point isn’t lost, fellow pede. Just understand that some of us feel like it is time to do something different than the R and D charade for a change.
I'm one of them. 2016 DJT wasn't an R, and Sanders wasn't a D. Had that been the election as it should've been, it would have been a repudiation of both major parties, which is exactly what's needed and an idea who's time had come. 1 State (Nebraska?) even had that as a referendum on the ballot. It almost won, got well over 40%. More people were registered I than R or D, Nationwide.
Additionally, our founding Fathers told us not to have political parties at all, and a two party system is the worst. This has ground the Nation down for over a decade, which I think is the low point in our history in this regard.
Someone else made the point that no matter what we call it, politicians will make alliances before they get anything done. Watching Ds simultaneously fracture and coalesce is fucking weird!
Friday we saw the stick of the carrot and stick that turns Rs into RINOs. We're up against the DS. The leadership and control of money in the RNC may not be the same entity, but we're certainly up against that as well.
Our short term goal is to keep the US as a sovereign Nation past inauguration day, and we can't take that for granted. I'm not even sure that doing that peacefully is better than purging Marxists, including Rs. Hopefully Rubicon Don will lead us either way but we've got to go even if he doesn't, unless the fraud actually gets stopped.
2022 mid terms, those primaries could be an entirely different situation than anything we've ever seen before. It would be a gauge of who's with us. I'd love to see it as most who vote for Trump, and losing fewer than we gain; that just isn't knowable right now. Discussing ideas, enthusiasm, names, leaders - that's all good. I have ideas about that: the lion as mascot is great! Neither are we forced to be red. 2024 primaries should sling no mud, but decide who's best where in the administration. There's no lack of talent! We just shouldn't think we know where we're going to be in 2 years when in 5 weeks everything could be so drastically different.
DS is bigger than that. They ensure we can ONLY vote for their approved choices. This year more people have become aware of the scam than ever. This election more people have realized our elections are part of that scam. We can only oppose this in a BIG way
There's not a chance in hell you're fixing the Republican establishment. They're all cucked to hell and back and will cling to power by any means necessary.
Either start/join a new party, or shut up and accept the ass fucking they're gonna keep on giving you.
Fixing the Republicans is easier than turning the Dimocrats to commies was. Go do a little reading about 3rd parties and how successful they have been. Or maybe you want a giant cluster fork like Canada?
I think a big part of it is that there’s been no sheriff up until now. So to even BE in politics in any way shape or form is to have them have something over you. Little favors turn into big favors and the big favors tend to lean illegal or immoral or embarrassing, then you do a thing to hide said illegal or immoral or embarrassing thing and it’s over. They own you.
This movement is not a cult of personality, but about principal. We hold our Officials accountable! Or actually we don't, and that's the problem. We need to. I think we're on the same page?
To illustrate, this is part of what I love so much about Chanel Rion; if DJT were to get involved in something crooked, she wouldn't run cover for him. She'd investigate it! Remember when qw used to have investigative reporting? Pepe Farms remembers.
I know what you mean. I'd also like to use the term "awake" to describe being aware of our real enemies, and how to defeat them. But what these terms already mean is too ghastly to use.
It tells you voting doesn’t matter and midterms don’t matter. This is it pede, I know you want to regroup the way we always have and campaign for next time, but those days are gone. This is the endgame of elections in America. They honestly think you’ll believe Joe Biden got 80 million votes. I mean if that stands how much is a good candidate going to get? 100 million? It’s laughable yet sad our country is this close to its end.
Sidney Powell estimated this before, it was 7-10 million swapped from Trump, so Trump got over 80 million for sure. I forget where he is at now unofficially (75?)
But that doesn’t mean Biden only got 10 million less, she also estimated the other fraud that supported him. Which I think was quite conservative. Biden, if he was lucky got 60 million. Although I think 50-55 million is probably realistic with how many brain washes Dems there are.
Keep in mind that there were also ballots for trump that were just deleted from existence (not swapped—just straight up deleted). So yeah, Trump for sure got at least 85 million votes.
True! Yeah its amazing to see how much support Trump must have gotten. I think 90 million is probably pushing it, but 85 seems realistic all things considering.
We certainly aren't going to concede the steal this time. But after we win this, we can never forget and need to primary every single house and senate republican. Start fresh.
We might actually be in a much more secure position in 2022.
Edit: my comment has been misinterpreted.
President Trump has already won. He is dragging it out in order to minimize the damage as much as possible.
When I say we will be more secure in 2022, that’s because that will be after President Trump’s 2 year purge of traitors, during his second term.
You have GREAT energy and spirit! Are you ready for some refinement?
This is freedom's last stand. POTUS is only part of it. Sounds like you're in GA? I don't know when you're runoff election is, or why you even need one. Fraud is rampant in every race, every precinct, even those we won. Even Alaska's election board has been found to be corrupt!.
Americans die on our feet rather than living on our knees. And deterrence is the best use of force. Rubicon Don!
Of course not. I wasn’t suggesting that.
I’ll die before that outcome.
It’s a done deal, though. Joe has no chance. None. Zero.
Just wait, and you’ll see.
I was not suggesting we give up now and wait until 2022.
I was saying that during the first two years of his second term, President Trump will purge the government big time, leaving a much more secure election in 2022.
Nope. There’s no need to wait. President Trump has it in the bag.
There will be no Biden presidency.
We focus on 2022 because Trump has already won, yet people don’t realize it yet.
In 2022, we can get both houses of congress. We can set this country back on the right path for an entire generation.
The system won't fix itself, you're right about that much at least.
You can be every bit as much what we need as the first soldier into battle on D-Day. He also survived the battle of Bastogne, and came home in one piece both physically and mentally. The only thing exceptional about my Uncle Frank was
DETERMINATION
This is freedom's last stand. Look over Arlington National cemetery, you can do that quite well online. Don't forfeit everything this Nation ever stood for without so much as a whimper
I'll bite - what makes you think this? What's going to prevent the Dems from stealing every statewide election from now on? The way I see it, Republicans will win house seats and state legislatures, but never a governor, senator, or president again.
After what was found in Georgia it's blatantly clear and either he gets in and remains our president or the hell that will come from a cracked earth spills out and every traitor Will be on their own
We have until 1/19 to do the destruction in your last sentence, or to at least bw well on our way. No chances after that. You need much more info than you have, I'm 30 years ahead of you.
You have to create separate S-Corps to shield you from most of the burden of W-2 taxes. Then try to incorporate in different countries that have way less tax than the US. Stash profits in the cayman Islands or equivalent in order to protect from IRS and the ex-wife
Yes, this was all true before Trump. That's why we lit Trump's fuse and threw him in. He blew a crack in the system and has plainly exposed the establishment for what it is. Do what you will, but we as a whole must continue to pick away at the crack. Every proof of fraud, new local leaders, new national leaders, will bring more to the fight at our side. This is not something that can be done overnight.
The timeline has hard deadlines, and we MUST succeed:
12/14 electors vote. Best chance of Courts helping is before this and at State level, NOT SCOTUS. Any Court hearing evidence will greatly help with public opinion. SCOTUS could still do something til 1/6, 1 PM. Just not likely. Then a meeting VP Pence presides over. After that, if all else fails it's
the legal battles aren't over. No Judge has even heard any evidence. 12/14 is an important deadline, but doesn't exhaust all legal remedies. Slim chance something could change by 1/6, a meeting that starts at 1 PM that VP Pence will be presiding over. (God willing and prayers for Divine protection are very much in order)
Just yesterday I thought 2) couldn't happen, and only the unorganized militia could fix this. Read those comments and see why we're enough, and with the CiC we're unbeatable
You don't realize what they have in store if we don't. You don't know what the great reset means. You don't know what OWG means. This is freedom's last stand. Do not go quietly into that dark night
I'd even argue that the last election was waaaaaaaaaaay before 2016 and Trump was a fluke they didn't expect to happen because so many people voted for him even their cheating didn't stop it.
They’re saying that the vaccine provokes an immune response to the same protein that’s in human placentas. I’ve only seen this claimed so far, no actual evidence, but if this is true then sterilizing a significant portion of our population isn’t going to help anybody but people like Bill Gates, who think we need to reduce the world population via vaccines.
At this point I don't think we've had an election. Someone mentioned how in 2016 there was a DDOS that prevented the altering of votes on the Dominion machines and that's how Trump won, by a close to real election which is why Clinton conceded that night because they knew they couldnt get it.
That's what I'm kind of thinking, but what if it was actually someone tied to say WikiLeaks. It was just easy to blame Russia just as they did Seth Rich. I think a patriot saved us that day. That one person, if in fact it was one person or a small team, literally saved America because we would be in hell right now and have no clue about what is truly going on.
They had ‘insurance policy’ after insurance policy so you may be right.
It was also too early for their rollout in 2016.
Ie. They just pulled off wins with Dominion in Philippines via Aquino in 2010. An Obama puppet that was one of several test pilots for their election manipulation.
I mean, apparently the dominion sales team would offer "Election Insurance"... maybe they were actually being more literal with their words than people took it for?
None of this election fraud is new. In 2002 there was testimony before Congress from a worker in a company that furnished voting machines that it could switch any race 49 - 51 without a trace, and the only way anybody would ever know is by manually recounting every paper ballot.
Maga party. Never was an R.... love Trump and what he stands for and will back anyone who delivers his same views but the rnc and gop are the same as the left.... its like wwe, all show back when both sides go back to the locker room all are the same swamp team
So tell me again why I should give a shit about voting in the upcoming run-off in GA. It is starting to look like they traded the White House for the senate. I don’t want to give the Rinos what they expect. The GOP should be done starting today, fuck em and feed em fish heads!!
Democrat victories in those races will weaken Trump more than RINO victories will.
RINO losses in the 2022 primaries, will strengthen Trump tremendously.
These senators, representatives, governors, only have value based on what they can do for President Trump.
Watching him for many years leads me to believe he still has cards up his sleeve, and odds of a second term are much better than is being reported. His reorganization’s behind the scenes right now are preparing for a major swamp drain. Play your part as best you can, whenever he asks.
He asked us to vote for him in the presidential election and look what happened. The GOP quit on him the second the media declared Biden the winner. Thanks to the Republicans’ unwillingness to fight for Trump and the American people, I’ll never vote for a single Republican ever again, and if this election stands, I’ll never VOTE again since there’s no point, I have no voice and my vote doesn’t count.
This is known as the black pill. What you're saying almost makes sense on 1/20 if the globohomos install their puppet, Biden. We can NOT let that happen, and apparently you don't know why not. This is NOT politics as usual
You do realize that's basically what I said right? If the Republican party gives up on Trump and allows Biden into the white house, then they've won and they will control all elections going forward. That's a fact.
And so far, the Republican party hasn't given me much reason to believe they'll do what's right. They are an extension of the Democrat party.
Couldn't agree more. And the 'effing senators in GA that everybody wants us to put in are two of the ones that just buried the knife in our backs. I just lost my job to an Indian! Then I went out and voted in this election anyway, and they do THIS to me?
The RINOs and the Dems may not agree on cultural or economic issues but they sure as hell agree that the globalist way is the only way to run a country
Do NOT expect the GOP to fight for the average man if Trump is not president. More jobs and factories will be outsourced for profit.
It's a game. If they think they need us to win, they may give us the time we need to get a court win, a vote de-certification by a state, and/ or more & more whistle blowers. It doesn't matter whether we show up or not, we know that. They don't. But if they lose, they think they win anyway cause the RINOs will 'deal make' w/ a couple Ds and convince the next gen how 'free' we are. What they don't know is we won't let 'em. This is an end game, one way or another - for them, and for this country as we know it.
First of all, we can NOT accept the steal. That's a separate issue, but please realize what they have planned is the end of freedom. Also I think GA voted in those Senators and every race, every precinct has fraud, even those we won.
Next, realize the carrot and stick that turns Rs into RINOs. We have to beat that whole DS, not just a few elections. This is why we voted in DJT in 2016, and what MAGA is. Don't give up because we haven't achieved 100% success yet!
The politicians in Washington fear the left, they fear the riots and the looting and the burning. They fear the optics of the racial overtones.
Politicians in Washington absolutely do not fear the right. We never do jack squat. And the moment some people on the right step out of line, they get labeled white nationalists, and then they disappear.
I don't think they fear the far left per se. I think they fear their family being blown up in a car like Anderson Deal. That's CIA, that's China, that's deep state. That's what they fear. Antifa radicals?? They'll just have 15 police guard their mansion for that. No big deal.
EXACTLY! If we drain the swamp even RINOs might prove to not be so bad. And if we don't? Death is preferable to Marxism. And ain't no motherfucker been able to kill me yet. This is the endgame. Rubicon Don!
With Donald Trump, this is the first time the people have finally been given an actual choice since Reagan. This isn’t a Romney or a McCain, he is somebody that the deep state legitimately doesn’t want as a president. The Republican Party must follow suit with his example or start packing their bags. Too much is at stake.
I used to be a shit lib, I will admit I voted for Obama in 2012. I am not proud, but it happened. Trump made me switch parties from D to R.
I don't think the GOP understands I have zero problem changing my party affiliation to Independent and never voting red down ticket again and only voting for right wing populists when they come. Fuck them. They use me? HA, try that shit again see how it works out.
Fuckin faggots. I know a staffer of one of you fags sees this. FUCK YOU.
Know the timing. Also you're skipping a box. There won't be any jury, but 12/14 is the deadline for most of what Courts can do. They haven't even heard any evidence yet. There is a slight chance SCOTUS could intervene by 1/6. A meeting starts 1 PM that day that VP Mike Pence presides over. If none of that fixes this, it's Rubicon Don!
Required reading in some of the comments, too. Just yesterday I didn't think this could happen, and it was up to us to act independently. It still will be if Don doesn't cross the Rubicon, and it has to conclude appropriately before 1/20. As my brother from another mother Razorfist says -
I also voted for Obama in 2012. Tbh, ppl calling me a racist all the time for watching trump videos in 2016 is what really made me vote for him. That, plus America First. Who the fuck is against putting America First?
The people we're being told to vote for have already dissed Trump and praised Biden.
The sitting GOP senators are voting against Trump and the people.
If Trump wins, the GOP already has a majority in the Senate because of Pence breaking ties.
If Trump loses, the fraud will be solidified: any future 's'elections will go to compromised swamp creatures willing to sell out America, and the existing Senate will keep stabbing us in the back.
I get that Trump is saying to vote for them, but it's still a really hard sell. For me it's moot as I'm many states away, but I absolutely understand the hesitation to support these two.
The only way it really makes a difference if these two win is in a theoretical world where the GOP reliably opposes the deconstruction of America and stands up for the people. I'll trust Trump on this unless he somehow fails and Biden ends up President, but it's really difficult to trust the system.
I agree with everything except "tie-breaker Pence" is a meme. The real tie-breaker is Mitt Romney, his so-called conscience won't allow Pence to break a tie.
This is truth.
In this particular instance, RINOS winning is better for Trump. In the 2022 primaries, the opposite will be true.
All that matters, is whether or not the politicians help President Trump, or are useful to his strategy.
Voting for the RINOS in this instance, isn’t “voting Red no matter what,” it’s voting based on President Trump’s strategy.
barrage both your Senators over the issues in the OP. It's not tio late, Rubicon Don will veto both bills and they'll have another chance to get it right.
If either of your Senators is R, make it perfectly plain they'll be primaried if they fuck this up.
Sidenote: our military budget is complex enough to deserve its own bill. Section 230 should be dealt with on its own, too.
Unfortunately, living in the People's Republic of New Jersey my senators are Spartacus and that pedophile Menendez. We have a better chance of Jeb! becoming an interesting person or Hilary conceding 2016 than either of those to fighting against their party.
Yes but realize the scope of their hearings was solely to shape future policy. Hopefully Rudy used it aa a chance for witnesses to gain experience testifying. Before a Judge will have different significance.
EXAACTLY! I say fuck the GOP. We are not Democrats that vote blue no matter who. Dont let democrats have control of the senate, but republicans wont defend your rights, instead supply highly skilled foreigners to serve big tech and other big corporations to take high paying jobs that would otherwise go to American workers and also support mass unmitigated immigration and amnesty for all ILLEGAL ALIENS. Lin and Sidney are 100% right, even if Trump said vote. If i was in Georgia, i would vote for a 3rd party if one was available. FUCK THE GOP, they wont even stand and fight with Trump to stop a coup against him. TRUMP MUST PREVIL, Pence breaks any ties in the senate!
The two bills in the OP, Rubicon Don will veto. That'll give your Senators the chance to get it right. Barrage them on this issue. If either is an R, make it plain they will be primaried over getting this wrong.
The gop is one wing of the uniparty. Tear it off and that bird can't fly anymore. Let the leftists take control of the democrats and those few sane who leave and reject them will also vote Lion party.
This is the way! Scorched earth
I get your spirit pede but that’s not how senate elections work.
Senators serve six year terms and their re-elections are staggered every two years. You could only get rid of about a third in 2022. You would need to oust the second third in 2024 and then last third in 2026.
That's why I say we need to leave the Republican Party ENTIRELY. We need to become MAGA Party. Those willing to leave the Republican Party and join the MAGA Party will have the balls to stand. Too many RINO's hide easily within the GOP among those who do want to do their job. MAGA is better than GOP.
The letters aren't what matters. Did you not understand what happened yesterday? Carrot and stick will corrupt anyone. We need to beat the whole DS, that's why we voted for DJT in 2016. Once other options are exhausted by 1/6 it's Rubicon Don!
Pedes need to stat getting active at a local level. Volunteer to help MAGA candidates. Prob will venture to help some recent CA House candidates next time theyre up. Need to MAGA hard. Never surrender frens!
It's a disgrace. We have the same problem in the UK. We keep voting for the "Conservatives" and Brexit over and over and over again. It's because of immigration. Yet the politicians want to act like we're voting for them because of some other bullshit reasons. There really is no political solution in the UK.
Need to secure the vote first. Electronic voting machines need to be illegal. Paper only. Military oversight of elections as well. Punishment for fraud needs to he death. Plain and simple. People were obviously not intimidated by five years in jail and a felony.
We facilitated a fair election in Afghanistan of all places, we can do it here! First we need to correct the fraud this year, at least for the WH. Death before Marxism
It takes each person in their respective states to do their duty and watch their legislators and hold feet to the fire. In my former congressional office there were constituents we got to know personally. They always made their voices heard. I pray people will continue to stay engaged. It's a blast. Library of Congress. The clearing house of everything you need to know.
That if I were advising the President, I would tell him it's time to use the insurrection act and declare martial law.
I have absolutely no doubt he’s well aware and prepared to use it. We’re DAMN close, but not quite there just yet...
Yeah I think he needs to make the case to more americans first. People like us already know. He’s not doing all of the lawsuits for us. But in order to get enough support to take executive action like that, he needs to convince Americans it was and is being stolen. The longer this goes on the more irrefutable evidence will become.
"irrefutable" is one of those words where there aren't really gradations; it's a binary thing
how can something become more irrefutable, if you don't mind my asking? "the closer to irrefutable this small mountain of evidence becomes"? "the more difficult it is for the left to seriously challenge it"? i mean- it kind of reminds me of what the left did with all those women who totally credibly accused trump of sexual misconduct. it's, i guess, what we could call an "evidence bomb." sort through it. find, arrest, enforce, charge, and sentence for the big stuff which can be proven in a court of law. we can talk about the smaller stuff later once the big fish are taken care of
Okay let me rephrase. The longer it goes on the more people will see it as irrefutable.
optically, i absolutely agree. but the thing with that is- the left can read a story about an illegal entrant raping and killing people and turn right around and talk about how illegal immigration is a net benefit. gun-free zones. "science" vs. gender activism. the list goes on and on. the "middle" might see it and scratch their head a little bit, but leftist media will screech harder than they ever have, and i don't know where we'd go from there. they've basically been turned up to 11 since he came down that escalator with melania and delivered his first campaign speech
Like your daughter being murdered by an illegal tresspassor, and your response is that you love tacos...
like that; yes
God really does have a strange sense of humor sometimes, doesn't He?
Arrest the lamestream media and scatter them to the wind
so- just want to be clear on what you're saying here: take them on free rides in fancy sky machines with free skydiving lessons, or are you talking about scattering their cremated ashes to the wind?
FREEZE MSM and co-conpirator assets (including DNC and Election Committees for conspiring with foreigners to interfere with the US election.
Divide their bandwidth and facilities among God fearing AMERICAN journalists. Let OAN take over CNN... Lou Dobbs take over FNN and FBN.
That is true, but I think Trump knows there are more Americans and Patriots among us than we might expect. I am all for him going martial law, which honestly at this rate is probably what is going to have to happen. But while he doesn't need to convince everyone or even a majority, he is still going to need a plurality of support to make that happen.
Like the American Revolution, I think it was barely over a 1/3 of people even supported the revolution, with a third supporting allegiance to the crown, with the rest basically "I really dgaf, just leave me alone" But despite not even HALF, our founding fathers were able to rally enough support to make the greatest change in human history!
Although I suppose one could argue Trump already has enough support, and maybe that's true, but I think the more the better. I know for certain that the Georgia videos were the tipping point for at least 1 person I know.
yeah- the left is gonna lose their shit any way/at whatever speed the shit hits the proverbial fan. i think it'd be more of a state-by-state "martial law" scenario until it was a full-on, countrywide civil conflict or whatever you want to call it- where people are driving state to state to go stack bodies somewhere else
trump has the support; for sure. reforming the RNC seems less worth the headache with each passing election ngl. again- we're open to it for sure, and we're definitely not alone
bro STFU.. you know what the poster was saying. You're writing paragraphs about semantics and the thing is, the original poster is right. There IS already irrefutable evidence that anyone can objectively look at and say "yes, that is fraud".
i have been reliably informed that "bro"s don't have vaginas, but whatever
try keeping your loser attitude to yourself. trump knows what he's doing. stop worrying about it
You can have many different evidences that are irrefutable.
It's not a spectrum for 1 case, but you can stack up many different arguments.
Stats, videos, witnesses, whistleblowers, etc.
Would it help if the people here at thedonald.win and elsewhere kept spreading the information as much as possible (which many people are already doing in multiple different ways)?
YES! IRL, too:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFqZ9T5/-anybody-going-to-stop-the-steal/c/
There are hard deadlines to be aware of
Odds of this actually happening are zero. Military wouldn’t even comply with it, even the generals are never Trump. Either we do it or nobody does.
It might be time for martial law. Consider these facts:
With martial law, the military may make arrests. (Think Special Ops.)
Gitmo has been expanded, and fencing reinforced.
Firing squads have been authorized once again.
A new Secretary of Denfense has been appointed, and the Speical Ops Forces now report to him.
Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, so there is a precedent for simply grabbing the traitors, and throwing them in prison, while they await trial or a military tribunal.
Kavanaugh, during his Senate Judiciary hearings, was asked if it was legal to try U.S. civilians in military courts, to which he answered it is.
Trump's EO regarding foreign election interference gives him sweeping powers to administer justice.
A server, used to count our election votes, was domiciled in a foreign country.
When you connect all of these dots, it sure looks like something is in the works.
DHS and FBI not on our side.
The only move he has left to win is Insurrection Act. That makes that move so very predictable.
So far, what exactly makes you trust him, at all? That Trump appointed him... as he has all the other people who betrayed him? Or that the GOP Senate confirmed him.
Tl,DR - I don't want to sow black pills here, but for people calling for civil war or Insurrection Act, they need to realize that by far majority of signs point to US military siding with the establishment and not the people.
Do they stream OANN and Newmax across military bases? or have 95% of our serviceman spent this year looking at events through CNN and MSNBC?
I have this theory that the ammo shortage is no longer due to civilians, but is a combination of .gov stockpiling at ATF slow walking imports.
Yeah, primers are hard to get, but there should be something hitting the shelves.
https://ammoseek.com/
What makes me trust him are the two patriots that work for him: Ezra Cohen-Watnick, and Kash Patel; and the fact that he made all Special Forces directly reportable to him. It may come down to Special Ops vs. the three letter agencies. McInerney implied this has already happened in Germany, when taking the election server.
I seem to remember Obama stockpiling ammo for the IRS? or some other govt. agency. God only knows how much the govt. has by now.
Obama wrote a lot of EO's transferring technology, equipment, supplies, facilities, manpower, and authority away from the DOD and gave it all to the DHS. The DHS should never be trusted. DHS, like the FBI need to be purged, disbanded, and replaced.
I agree with it being disbanded but ALL alphabet agencies need to go. They shouldn't exist as per the constitution.
To be fair... Who else’s military would Miller have served under genus? Lol tf you talking about? You can’t time travel around to serve under administrations you want.. You serve under whatever admin is in power, period... you’re not serving admins, you serve YOUR COUNTRY.
you have a point there.
I am just used to assuming that military 'defense' contractors are all swamp. There is a bit of a difference between a serviceman who retires to take a civilian job in US, and one who decides to stick around in Iraq or something, years after WMD narrative fell apart.
Except the WMD narrative didn't fall apart, the results were just concealed (and confirmed by Wikileaks). People seem to be under the mistaken assumption that "the swamp" is some homogeneous group when it isn't.
https://warlogs.wikileaks.org/id/7726706C-22D1-404B-B73C-5BB9F23BD1ED/
"The WMD narrative' had nothing to do with citizens becoming soldiers, then contractors. You have some SERIOUS catching up to do, but in brief:
Saddam violated the terms of his ceasefire. He couldve been fired upon immediately, legally. The threat was IF he developed WMD, he wouldn't hesitate to use them.
We shouldve gotten out as soon as their potential to be a threat was dismantled. That gets quite distinct between Afghanistan and Iraq.
2 main points in response;
This is freedom-s last stand. Americans die on our feet rather than living on our knees. And the proposition isn't starting the war you envision.
Actual fighting forces are overwhelmingly pro-Trump.
4D chess would have been preventing the election theft and actually winning the election, not frantically putting cases together after the fact and pinning the path on a bunch of government fuckheads and partisan judges.
That’s the temporary solution. The President is going for a permanent one.
Sure, he could have won his own election with premonition and advance action, but then none of this would have been uncovered and they go right back to business as usual in the next one.
This method gets it all out in front of the people so they can see, in no uncertain terms, that our elections are inherently insecure and there’s massive amounts of fraud coming from every avenue.
It may not be as pretty and elegant as you’d expect, but politics and law are always messy endeavors.
It may be a blessing. Expose the steal. The truth will come out, and lies will be exposed.
Nothing good in life comes that easy, champ. Sometimes you have to shoot from the hip, and piece it together as you go. This is usually the measuring stick of true leadership. So, take notes...
You're woefully ignorant about what HAS been done in advance.
And he did actually win the election, by a landslide!
Nothing to add to your comment, but I wanted to point out the delusional people responding that this was all somehow "the plan" or was "allowed to happen" by the President because he's just thinking so far ahead of everyone else. This is straight Q-level delusional bullshit. I"m surprised they're not all saying "don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake" for the eight millionth time acting like it's a big trap at this point.
It's been said by someone for what 100+ years? It's a pretty solid tactical proverb that doesn't diminish by repetition. It could very well be a big trap. The big question that will resolve it is will the trap catch anyone? A trap is worthless if you walk in and out of it. But unlike real traps, you can be caught for stuff you've done years later. I'm not a q person, and I don't have basically any of these answers but if you have an ace up your sleeve that nobody knows about you can be braver than most think you should be, unknowing. Now, all that said, I'm as ready as the next pede wanting people to be convicted of crimes they have committed. I think that will happen though after the election is locked in. Because if you arrest some people at the cost of losing the election then we all lose.
There's more. EOs in 2006 and building on that in 2018. https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Must reads in the comments
The military does not have to follow, only the Speical Ops do. We will know in time. I'm stocking up on popcorn, steak, and booze.
Special ops don't have to follow either. Prepare in ways you're not divulging. 12/14, maybe 1/6
Military is outnumbered 100:1. They could stay on the sidelines and be irrelevant. Maybe they should.
EOs address this specifically, in 2006 and building on that in 2018. https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in comments
13+ year vet here. we do not need the generals. NCO's are the ones that truly run the military, and they are overwhelmingly based.
Also a lot of those generals are ring knockers. Fuck those service academy weirdos. Worst officers I ever served under were from The Point or The Citadel.
Ring knocker?
Service academy graduates.
They have these obnoxiously large rings.
Not every officer I’ve served under who was minted at a service academy was horrible. On the other hand, every single horrible officer I had the misfortune of serving under WAS a service academy grad.
This... who needs a bunch of college boy fags that don’t know their elbow from their asshoe. NCOs run the military, not fag officers with an SJW, antiAmerican education. 🖕🏼officers. I’ve only ever served or known a few that were worth their pay in all my yrs of service, and the best officers are always NCOs who went officer, by far, not even an argument.
THANK YOU!
Generals would be nice though. Does Flynn cancel out Mattis?
Rolling out the active duty is very unlikely.
Theres a reason the Army National Guard has Special Forces, outside of Utah almost all of the SF units are located in heavy blue states. Don't forget the 91st Cyber Brigade from the Virginia Army National Guard.
Don't trust the leadership at National Guard Bureau.
They've been preparing for this for awhile, and have ensured senior leadership in DC, Maryland, Virginia, Washington State, and California comply with the orders from the swamp.
2 States on each coast? Sad, but not a deal breaker.
I don't understand what you mean by your statement
national guard isn't shit. they have almost zero chance of facing off against an armed citizenry. and, they would likely never fire upon american patriots.
Both sides will roll out the Army National Guard long before the Active Duty even gets a phone call.
The National Guard won't have to fight against an armed citizenry, nor is the Virginia Army National Guard going to move on DC to liberate the White House.
I don't know how much you know about the Army National Guard, but the Guard has deployed more Combat Arms Soldiers to Iraq and Afghanistan since 9/11 than the Active Duty Army and Marine Corps Combined.
The Guard also has the only world wide operational SF Teams (20th Group) meaning they can operate within our borders and be the alibi for three letter agencies to assist in operations. 19th Groups primary focus is the Asian Pacific, however they can also conduct missions within our borders.
You might recognize some of their adventures in fictional movies like Sicario.
Outside of the 91st Cyber, I'd pay attention to those units and the states they belong too. Typically Guard SF units are on active duty orders 6 months at a time for training, whats important to know is if they get moved from Title-32 to Title-10.
How do you know the generals are anti-Trump? I thought the military liked Trump.
Career politician type generals (mostly USAF, and I say this as a usaf veteran) are complicit in the third world taxpayer money funnel that our RINOs love so dearly.
Theres a reason why so many pentagon flag officers retire and go across the 395 for a job in Crystal City........ You can see the Military Industrial Complex from the parking lot.
Yup... thanks for your service, and I agree, Air Force is the SJW Arm of the US military, closely followed by CG and Navy...
The ones least involved in this type of thing
Thanks man. Fuck those people.
Actual fighters love Trump. Fracturing our military is not in our best interest. Mustering millions strong IS
Rubicon Don!
Mostly the generals that have publicly subverted the President over the past 4 years.
We also pretend the police are pro trump yet they go around arresting business owners and harassing people for not wearing masks.
Those are city cops. I’m out in the sticks in California, and we went to a public Christmas party last night and maybe 30% of the people were wearing masks, hardly anybody was social distancing, and the cops never raided us.
Our Sheriffs have already told us too that they won’t enforce any lockdown orders from Gavin either.
City cops have always been pieces of shit, with a few rare good ones, but as soon as you get outside the concrete jungle they turn back into Mayberry.
City Cops are controlled by Commie Mayors and city councils.
Yes. Corruption flows down.
Not in most of the Country they haven't. Sounds like you've only ever been to or even heard of a D controlled hellhole. Have you considered getting out from behind enemy lines?
Yeah I fucking hate the police now. Some are cool ig, but most of them suck. Before BLM, most people hated cops regardless of whether they’re liberal or conservative.
Also, can you show me examples of the generals who subverted Trump? The media doesn’t really talk much about the military tbh, and I don’t find much about it here.
"Most of them suck"
Yeah man, because I'm sure you have experience with "most of them".
Shut up. When all the police you come across don’t do their fucking job, and everyone around you says the same thing, and you see videos of them abusing their power and not actually doing their job, on top of people all over the Internet getting angry at them for not doing their fucking job, coupled with the fact that both liberals AND many conservatives are pissed off at them—YES most of them. Go fuck yourself buddy.
Rubicon Don!
Well that fucking blows. Your country should come before your career, especially in the armed forces. It’s okay to have a backup, but doing what’s good for the country is more important than doing what’s good for you. American lives are more important than your desired career choice. Fuck those neocons.
The higher up you get the more prone to corruption you become.
How do we stop this corruption then?
Well I think that 20+ years of rampant lack of accountability has gotten us this point.
Once we drain the swamp and accountability is restored corruption will be greatly reduced.
Military tribunals are pending and will be literally brutal. Corruption will be replaced with Patriotism. Incoming:)
Excellent question!
Understand where it comes from. "The slow march through the institutions" started in 1913. 107 years they've been planning what we're now living through. We have every other advantage.
Yesterday explains why Rs turn RINO. Your daughter's bf is killed via perfect crime, you understand your daughter could be next. And/or you. That's the stick. The carrot is legalized bribery aka lobbying, and the many other means of paying politicians far more than their salary. What We the People pay them isn't even a good tip by comparison. They work for who pays them just like anybody else.
Once you understand the scope of what we're up against, you realize that any effective counter has to be BIG. As in, all of us. When I say Rubicon Don, here's the solution:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Some comments there are required reading.
So then we’d just have to ban all lobbying groups, organizations, and corporations from being able to donate to politicians and political parties (and their family members). And make donating to politicians non-tax deductible (to dissuade corrupt people from being able to donate as much every year). And then make their largest donators/contributors public knowledge/more easily accessible.
We'd have to do what no one is willing to do...stop depending on some 3rd party to see the light and save us. Instead we'd have to put our lives on the line and start dirt napping our "elites" in academia, the media, corporations, and government. We'd have to be willing to rebuild our institutions from the ground level.
It won't happen. Too many cling to what they have and choose to hope they won't be affected too much by the new order.
You need your mouth washed out with soap, faggot!
Spread info of what OWG and great reset mean. NWO was reality in 1946, imposed by US taxes.
Kelly. Mattis. Both undermined him at every turn. And look at that Vindman guy.
I thought so just yesterday. It's simply false:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
The comments contain must reading. This doesn't rely on our military, either. We'd outnumber them over 100:1 anyway. They could watch from the sidelines, which would maybe be best.
After 12/14. Perhaps even after 1/6 when Congress finalizes who is ro be inaugurated on 1/20. Pence will preside over that meeting. This will exhaust every last option, and still give 2 weeks to muster and conclude appropriately. Mark the date
This will be a real test to see if we are still a Free country or controlled by the deep state. If he declares martial law and the military I want back him we can just pack it up and call it a day. But we need to know. So we can prepare for the coming years. They won’t be pretty. I foresee a lot of helicopter rides.
These colors don't run. We outnumber the military 100:1. That's just Trump supporting gun owners. The military could stay on the sidelines and be irrelevant. It's easy to say that would be best.
"Packing it in and calling it a day" implies forfeiting everything this Nation ever stood for, without even a whimper. If you've never seen Arlington National cemetery, you can tour it online. WAY too much has been sacrificed to do what I'm interpreting your words to mean. U hope I'm misunderstanding you, and you'll explain.
This is freedom's last standhttps://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Trump is not going to declare martial law and hold new elections. GET OFF THE CRACK!
Holding a new election for POTUS, no. The unorganized militia outnumbers the military 100:1. That's just Trump supporting gun owners. There's solid legal footing for this:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments.
And start his own party. Y’all can argue about the name, I couldn’t care less. If 80 million people changed their registration to his party in a few days time, there’s no way anyone could argue against the Trump mandate.
That would backfire badly.
Trump has 95% approval from Republican voters. The solution is not for 95% to leave a party for the sake of 5% - the solution is to oust the 5%.
Last time someone like Trump ran third party it was Teddy Roosevelt in 1912. All that happened is that it split the conservative vote and Woodrow Wilson won the Presidency. Woodrow Wilson is the worst President of our nation's history and his term was the root of almost all our current problems. We have been paying the price of Teddy running third party for 100 years...let's not do that again.
Melkor > Sauron > Sarumon
Wilson > FDR > LBJ
If you know Lord of the Rings, that's the analogy I use. What FDR did was not possible without the corrosion caused by Wilson. LBJ was just there to deliver the killshot, by that time the country already had a terminal illness.
I do not go back further than Wilson because the Democrats were soundly defeated during the Civil War and Reconstruction era. Wilson was the moment they breached back inside our institutions.
Oust the elected Republicans that don't honor the base.
This!!! It’s our party now, fucking vote out all traitors and RINOs... game on!
Pray tell how the fuck do you "vote out" anyone when the elections are rigged and the people you're trying to "vote out" are in on it.
Does not apply to runoff elections in GA. Barrage all Senators about the bills in the OP though! This matters because both should be vetoed, so our Senators have the chance to get this right.
Primaries are the time to replace our weak links.
Exactly this. People wanting to split off are peak stupid. You don't shut down or break away from a company just because some of the employees suck, you get new management. The problem? A lot of people demanding new management but not stepping up and being said new management.
Conservatives have fallen behind in both the political sector as well as the tech sector because both of those areas weren't considered "real jobs" for a long time.
True!
it wouldn't be 80
60 should be more than enough, though- which is closer to what i think it'd actually be. husband and i would absolutely drop the republicans like a rock if given the chance
Please read upthread a few. He gives a solid account of how Wilson got in, and gave us all the problems we face now
Primaries are the time to replace our weak links. Barrage both your Senators over the issues in the OP! If either is an R, make it clear they'll be primaried if they don't get it right after Trump vetoes these bills.
Also, our military budget is complex enough to deserve its own bill. Section 230 should be dealt with on its own.
Right after trump won, i was beating the drum that thetiming was right to start the new party, and give it 4 years to grow.
I like The Patriot Party or The American Patriot Party
Maga party
Patriot Party💯
Leverage Party Improvement Party Advantage Party
These are all synonyms for “trump hand”
I like Leverage Party. Implies willing to make deals while having the upper hand for self-interest.
What's wrong with Constitutionalist Party?
That party already exists, or something just like it.
They could give us their name, and hop aboard.
the problem is political parties in general. there shouldn't be political parties - period.
t. george washington farewell address.
We already have a "Constitution Party", so the name is already pretty much taken.
It's symbolically BORING and UNINSPIRING.
What sort of mentality is this?
Some failed party from 50 years ago in a country thousands of miles away that's like the size of one US state took the lion...and now the lion symbol is theirs?
A lion is a lion. Red is red. When I think of a red lion insignia I think of Gryffindor if anything. But there's no way in hell that a small European socialist party from the 70s is going to have rights over being lions.
Look at the history of how Wilson got in and gave us the problems we face now. Upthread a bit it's spelled out well. Getting rid of our weak links in primaries is the solution.
He’s prepared to do it I think, but waiting until the last possible second. Every out is being given to the deep state while also waking up the masses to what’s going on. That being said, out with them all. All of these traitors, liars, two faced scumbags. The deep state is country and party wide. The Republican vs Democrat argument is nothing more than a dog and pony show designed to distract us. How can the deep state lose when we keep supporting deep state Republicans and defending them while they make it look like they fought the good fight? Trump is so refreshing because he’s what it looks like when someone elected actually carries out they will of the people vs the appearance of doing so. Tell me I’m wrong....
I really don’t think that anyone who hasn’t woken up already is going to. If you haven’t questioned the election by now, you’re just dead weight.
I understand that there are some boomers out there who might not know any better and CAN still wake up, but they aren’t the type of people who will help us in a civil war because they’re too old. Plus, if they haven’t resisted the Dems and globalists by now, then they won’t resist Trump declaring martial law and invoking the Insurrection Act either. Fuck ‘em, I say.
I respectfully disagree with your initial point that people are either already awake or aren't going to. IMO, more people are waking up every day. It's a slower process than we'd like because many people aren't out of the msm bubble. The vast amount of indoctrination and misinformation is staggering. Media outlets like OAN and RSBN are getting more exposure, as is TD.win. The amount of information that flows from this site is extremely valuable in redpilling people as it's a constant stream of beating down the indoctrination that goes on. And it's not just 'boomers'. Nor just 'millennials'. There's a bunch of based pedes across the age and race spectrum. If we continue separating and labeling people into various groups, we are defeating ourselves and falling into the lefts identity politics. Back to your original point, there are also many that will never wake up and we see that everyday with the blm and antifa types. Fuck those people. But we shouldn't write off a whole swath of potential allies just yet.
Excellent points!
You missed my second point, or perhaps I didn’t tie it in to my first so well.
The people who are waking up right now aren’t actually important to our cause. They won’t stand up and fight alongside us. And we know this because anyone who is that asleep simply doesn’t care enough about the election fraud to be one of those who will fight.
If you’re just waking up right now, then you don’t take this seriously enough. You should have woken up a long time ago.
I’d also like to add that these people won’t fight against us either if they suddenly develop a negative opinion of us. How do I know? Well, if you’ve been complacent about the election fraud that much and won’t stand up to the Dems, then you definitely won’t stand up to us either. Like I said, fuck ‘em. You have to do your own due diligence. If you don’t, that simply means that you don’t care enough, so move out of the way.
I guess we'll agree to disagree. I believe that the people waking up now are important. IMO, you're making a judgement call based on when the light bulb finally went off in someones head. I may have become aware of things 10 or 20 years ago, but that doesn't necessarily make me any more valuable than someone who figured it out yesterday. Maybe the person who woke up yesterday has way more influence or resources than I do. If one wakes up now and tries to make a difference is more valuable than someone who figured it out years ago and does nothing. I totally understand your logic. I respectfully think it's flawed. You are making some false assumptions. "You should've woken up a long time ago." Why? Maybe something changed in someones life, or they met someone who positively influenced them. Or the light bulb just went on since November 3rd. I don't think it matters when, but rather what someone does when they finally figure it out.
How influential someone may or may not be doesn’t matter as much as you think because every person who is waking up now is essentially just another you or me. We aren’t too influential on our own, it’s only en masses that we are. Problem is, these people won’t be with us, because the type of person who WILL be with us is ALSO the type of person who would have ALREADY been looking into all this stuff on their own and with much greater intensity than your average NPC, meaning that they likely would have already woken up by now.
There may be some people who’ll get up in arms about it, but at this point it won’t change the outcome in any meaningful way. We’ve already got enough people on Trump’s side to take the DS on, and I don’t think they’re gonna do the right thing and let Trump win. At this point, I just see it as wasting time. That’s all. (There’s obviously a lot more going on behind the scenes in the Pentagon unrelated to this, that should be dealt with on its own; but I don’t think waking people up matters anymore because we’ve already got more than enough people as it is imo).
Many are just now starting to think maybe there IS evidence of fraud. No Judge has heard any yet. If this changes that will help a LOT. 80 million ar med patriots won't muster in DC without the people you wrongly despise.
Get your head on straight, soldier!
Hmmm, the judge thing is a good point. I’ll concede that this alone makes it hold more weight than previously I thought.
:) More of what I love about this place! We have the best people. Unafraid to learn. We may all have to be heroes soon ...
"Last possible minute." It's important to know the timeline. All other options aren't exhausted until the meeting 1 PM on 1/6 when Congress picks who gets inaugurated next. VP Pence presiding. That gives 2 weeks to muster and conclude appropriately. We had an AMA with a State legislator this past summer. He said the thing to do would be to amass in DC and don't move. Shut everything down. 12/14 is another possible date.
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Congress is lost. There are only a few patriots left in there.
We have had many threads naming the good ones. There's more than a few. Contact BOTH your Senators about the 2 bills in the OP, it's not too late! Trump should veto them both, giving them a chance to get it right this time.
Exactly ...
If you look up who the biggest Republican donors are and who the biggest Democrat donors are you’ll find that they’re mostly all members of the same tribe and suddenly our foreign policy priorities start to make sense
https://www.takimag.com/article/truth-or-trope/
This is the truth. Props to you for laying out this fact.
boomers will deny and cry racism
I don’t think the boomers are the ones crying racism.
Like boomers have room to talk. Boomers and older "pedes" are just economic communists that pretend to MAGA when it suits their bank account.
Before we were born, they voted in politicians that would give them infinite money in the form of SS and Medicare, just like minorities vote in Democrats that will give them infinite handouts. And now both of them are telling us it's our moral responsibility to pay for their reparations/retirement.
Social Security is just UBI for Republicans. Boomers put in $72 and they get $96 back, but those extra dollars are stolen straight from our paychecks.
We're having to budget away ~35% of our income, payable directly to boomers through Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, purely because they didn't feel like doing it when they were our age. Even Trump knows it's unreasonable and has been talking about ways to lessen the required individual contributions through tax cuts.
You're not advancing any cause but the deep state's divide and conquer strategy. Entitlements started before any baby boomer was conceived. You are correct they're a problem, and I understand why you're angry about it.
If ranting helps you fine, but we need solutions. Unfunded liabilities will only get worse if Biden were to get in, God forbid. That won't be stopped without the people you love to hate. Straighten up, soldier! This is a coup. There is no evidence of an election.
You tried to dodge every single one of my points with "well uh, that's just too bad. suck it up and pay for my retirement, runt because, uh, MAGA. ...soldier," but that won't work.
It's only "handouts" until we're talking about boomers, then suddenly everything is "unfunded liabilities."
Word games are for leftists. You're stealing from us to fund your retirement and healthcare because you didn't feel like saving when you were our age. Find a solution? Sure. Downsize and sell your junk until you can make ends meet.
It's about time that baby boomers were the ones living in apartments and freeing up houses for the rest of us to start new families. The only reason you guys can afford to stay out of apartments is because you're taking rent money from us anyways.
Ageism doesn't help. It just promotes the divide and conquer strategy of the deep state.
That's what boomers are programmed to do
Pretending those of the baby boomer generation are "programmed" is both ignorant, and helps nothing.
Pretending the boomer generation did anything but drop the ball when it came to the soul of this country is both ignorant and helps nothing.
There is no "generation" did this or that. People are INDIVIDUALS.
Individualism vs collectivism is the basis of the difference between capitalism and communism.
Stop being a God damned Marxist!
"There is no "generation" did this or that."
Give me a fucking break and stop playing stupid on purpose.
"huurrr people are individuals durrrr!"
Yeah, no shit.
What I'm doing is parsing out a piece of American history by quantifying it's culture as it relates to its populace. This can easily be done by evaluating generations of individuals through what time period and culture they were raised in.
This is common practice, and definitely isn't something new. So you're either playing stupid on purpose to get your argument to work, or you're trolling.
israel first
Boomers are the ones who brought in PC culture. No sense in denying it.
Don't call everyone born in a 15 year period trash, it's ridiculous to even think like that. People are individuals!
Individualism vs collectivism is the basis of the difference capitalism and communism.
Totally stupid to give the deep state the power to divide and conquer us. That's all you're doing. Snap out of it!
A coup is happening. There is no evidence of an election.
Holy shit dude you're so fucking based
Nobody's turning anybody into glass. We've got serious issues to face, this is freedom's last stand!
We don't blame Jews for all of the evils in the world.
We blame their father, the devil.
It is his works that they do.
Funny how God's chosen people have a special term all of their own.
You can't read
Shut it down!
Can't remove Congress, sorry.
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Shit like this makes me want to throw up
Yes but foreign policy is irrelevant to both bills in the OP. Barrage both your Senators!
We the people generate more and more wealth, which generates more and more tax revenue yet our nation and spending power has been in a steady decline for decades. It’s long been crystal clear the government is doing the exact opposite of helping us in any way.
Is this implying that govt workers suck and are just in it for the free ride of bureaucracy? I mean, how many people are "at the top" benefiting from this?
It’s not about government workers. That is just a smoke screen. It’s about billionaire plutocrats across the world implementing the “great reset” or whatever it was. The Soros and Gates of the world. The faggots that gather at Bohemian Grove. See, the robber barons were too bold and obvious. The next generations of billionaires have learned to fly below the radar for the most part and they have slowly been sucking the resources from the people. Capital is not and never was our friend. After the Great Depression we were able to claw back some of our resources and freedom from the billionaire class, but it’s back to how it always was. I am a minarchist by nature, but you can’t have unrestricted capitalism because the deck is already stacked. The power is concentrated now so there is no such thing as real capitalism until the Soros and Gates of the world are stripped of their power. People rail against Soros and Gates here a lot but the Koch’s and Mercers and Buffets and Devoses all work together and eat at the same table. They are more than happy for the proletariat to fixate on the outwardly liberal members of their group. But they are all the same. They made a mistake supporting Trump. They thought they could control him, but they were wrong.
You're missing some very important stuff, even though you've got some things right. Learn how we got where we are now:
the Titanic sunk in 1912, owned by JP Morgan, with those opposed to creating the Fed on board. The Fed was created in 1913, while Congress was out on Christmas break. JP Morgan was an owner, as was one Congress critter who voted.
Russia turned into the USSR 1917-1921, with the same people profiting.
CFR established in 1921, along with its Sister organization in England, by Cecil Rhodes the Father of apartheid. This begins their undue influence over academia, and fortifies their "slow march through the institutions."
Fast forward to now, and only this year has a critical mass of people realized what's going on. And now we can't even use the term "awake" to describe it?
They've been planning what we now face for 107 years. We have every other advantage. And we have little time to USE them.
This is the kind of conspiracy theory I believe. I had read this idea before about the titanic and academia and generally agree. There is a difference in QAnon conspiracy theory (bullshit IMO) and fact based conspiracy theory that only takes a little imagination to fill in the blanks
The blanks are filled in, takes no imagination. Only reading about 500 pages. I would suggest starting in the back with the bibliography, just to see all the authors referenced over hundreds of years in this incredibly well researched work. Plus, it's online and free! Although the online version has lots of 'internet degradation,' formatting syntax popping out, etc.
The Creature From Jekyll Island
A light, fun read. Should be required reading, imho.
That's an important question!
The big picture view is that it's very few, WAY less than 1%. Best if we could just focus on defeating them, but they're largely out of our reach. A whole post could be devoted to this topic.
What can we do about it NOW? We have pressing issues, obviously.
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Some great stuff in those comments!
Serfs to the elite. And paupers. Or dead. With no real preference for which. That's the goal. This continent turned back into wilderness.
OWG, One World Government. In 1950 they announced they will have it, whether we cooperate or they impose it by force.
The only way we lose is if we don't fight. Rubicon Don! https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
That's terribly short-sighted.
Sounds like a new party is on the menu boys.
New party for a New Era of American Prosperity. Just imagine what we could do if we ever successfully bucked off the oppressive Administrative State...the possibilities are endless srs
The puppeteers would subvert and blackmail as always
They are the true enemy. Every last one needs to be routed out. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Some required reading in those comments.
It will be much easier to take over the Republican party, once the major criminals are in prison. It's a top down problem, wacking off a few heads gets us to a better place quickly.
I respectfully disagree. I think a new party would send the loudest message. If we got 50-80 million Trump voters to switch parties overnight, there would be no way anyone could argue against the Trump mandate.
You're absolutely right there's a slice of the Trump coalition that would really like a new party, to respectfully disagree with you I would say there is a much larger portion of trump supporters that are Evangelical older Americans much more conservative and I don't mean that politically I mean in the way they do things.
The trumptastic coalition is a HUUUUGGGGEEE tent with historic gains for the GOP with blacks, hispanics, Korean roof guards, folks thst personally felt the effects of Donald J Trump's presidency. Imagine the number of black voters that will vote Republican if the president asked them to in 2022.
The very word Republic is very strong for us as well. It's the type of government we want, localities governing themselves under the overarching ruleset of the constitution. We should take it back, not abandon it.
The quickest way to fix the Republican (Republic party) is to start putting swamp dwellers in jail that traitor in Georgia should be on the next black flight to Gitmo!!
History would like a word. Ever hear of Woodrow Wilson? Please learn
Yeah... Comparing Trump to Roosevelt. History repeats often, but if you think 2020 is a repeat of any historical moment, I have a bridge to sell you. Telling someone to “please learn” is some low grade reddit or twatter faggotry. Keep that shit out of here.
Refusing to learn never made America great.
Pretending I've claimed "2020 is a repeat of a historical moment" is a strawman; the most disingenuous thing you could do.
The discussion is about 2024. Wilson got in because of a party split, diluting the vote between his opponents. We need to be sure not to do that!
Wilson destroyed this Country. We cannot afford a repeat of that mistake. No one here is considering this, at all.
Yes. We are. We consider it and believe that we would in no way be making the same mistake.
We’ve voted for Rs in the past who have betrayed us. Along comes Trump. Did we stay home and not vote simply because we had Romney and McCain to vote for preceding him? No, we knew he was different. We knew he could do what he promised.
Those of us looking to form a new party also see that this is different. This isn’t a third party that would leave anyone left in the original two parties except the fringes. This would be comprised of about 60 million former Rs and about 30 million former Ds.
Your point isn’t lost, fellow pede. Just understand that some of us feel like it is time to do something different than the R and D charade for a change.
I'm one of them. 2016 DJT wasn't an R, and Sanders wasn't a D. Had that been the election as it should've been, it would have been a repudiation of both major parties, which is exactly what's needed and an idea who's time had come. 1 State (Nebraska?) even had that as a referendum on the ballot. It almost won, got well over 40%. More people were registered I than R or D, Nationwide.
Additionally, our founding Fathers told us not to have political parties at all, and a two party system is the worst. This has ground the Nation down for over a decade, which I think is the low point in our history in this regard.
Someone else made the point that no matter what we call it, politicians will make alliances before they get anything done. Watching Ds simultaneously fracture and coalesce is fucking weird!
Friday we saw the stick of the carrot and stick that turns Rs into RINOs. We're up against the DS. The leadership and control of money in the RNC may not be the same entity, but we're certainly up against that as well.
Our short term goal is to keep the US as a sovereign Nation past inauguration day, and we can't take that for granted. I'm not even sure that doing that peacefully is better than purging Marxists, including Rs. Hopefully Rubicon Don will lead us either way but we've got to go even if he doesn't, unless the fraud actually gets stopped.
2022 mid terms, those primaries could be an entirely different situation than anything we've ever seen before. It would be a gauge of who's with us. I'd love to see it as most who vote for Trump, and losing fewer than we gain; that just isn't knowable right now. Discussing ideas, enthusiasm, names, leaders - that's all good. I have ideas about that: the lion as mascot is great! Neither are we forced to be red. 2024 primaries should sling no mud, but decide who's best where in the administration. There's no lack of talent! We just shouldn't think we know where we're going to be in 2 years when in 5 weeks everything could be so drastically different.
Ideally it would be but it's hard to get the uninformed to stop voting for swamp.
it's going to have to be real politics we have to primary the swamp creatures get the president to support who's running against them.
DS is bigger than that. They ensure we can ONLY vote for their approved choices. This year more people have become aware of the scam than ever. This election more people have realized our elections are part of that scam. We can only oppose this in a BIG way
Rubicon Don! https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
My contempt for universal suffrage has been hardening for a long time now.
Heh, somebody here has been saying no representation without taxation ;)
Sadly true. But re-naming after taking over the Republican infrastructure would be good.
I think that's exactly what's going to happen. We might just change it to the republic party.
There's not a chance in hell you're fixing the Republican establishment. They're all cucked to hell and back and will cling to power by any means necessary.
Either start/join a new party, or shut up and accept the ass fucking they're gonna keep on giving you.
Reform is possible. Usually it works only by killing those who are corrupt.
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
There's some required reading in some of the comments, too
Doomer be gone.
Fixing the Republicans is easier than turning the Dimocrats to commies was. Go do a little reading about 3rd parties and how successful they have been. Or maybe you want a giant cluster fork like Canada?
Problem will always be that people are easily corrupted. We need politicians that can't be bought off.
I think a big part of it is that there’s been no sheriff up until now. So to even BE in politics in any way shape or form is to have them have something over you. Little favors turn into big favors and the big favors tend to lean illegal or immoral or embarrassing, then you do a thing to hide said illegal or immoral or embarrassing thing and it’s over. They own you.
A new party should be full of new faces.
I think this is what happened to that bitch john Roberts.
Trump is just about the only one who fits the bill.
This movement is not a cult of personality, but about principal. We hold our Officials accountable! Or actually we don't, and that's the problem. We need to. I think we're on the same page?
To illustrate, this is part of what I love so much about Chanel Rion; if DJT were to get involved in something crooked, she wouldn't run cover for him. She'd investigate it! Remember when qw used to have investigative reporting? Pepe Farms remembers.
This is the lie Marxists believe, that such people exist
PROTIP: they don't. This is why a government has to fear its people
The Patriot Party with Lion as the symbol. Lions vs Donkeys/Elephants? Yes please.
Plus the lion doesn’t concern himself with the opinions of sheep.
Lion vs Elephant would be our downfall. SEE: Woodrow Wilson
Basically every problem we face now got its foothold under Wilson.
I know what you mean. I'd also like to use the term "awake" to describe being aware of our real enemies, and how to defeat them. But what these terms already mean is too ghastly to use.
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
It tells you voting doesn’t matter and midterms don’t matter. This is it pede, I know you want to regroup the way we always have and campaign for next time, but those days are gone. This is the endgame of elections in America. They honestly think you’ll believe Joe Biden got 80 million votes. I mean if that stands how much is a good candidate going to get? 100 million? It’s laughable yet sad our country is this close to its end.
Sidney Powell estimated this before, it was 7-10 million swapped from Trump, so Trump got over 80 million for sure. I forget where he is at now unofficially (75?)
But that doesn’t mean Biden only got 10 million less, she also estimated the other fraud that supported him. Which I think was quite conservative. Biden, if he was lucky got 60 million. Although I think 50-55 million is probably realistic with how many brain washes Dems there are.
Keep in mind that there were also ballots for trump that were just deleted from existence (not swapped—just straight up deleted). So yeah, Trump for sure got at least 85 million votes.
True! Yeah its amazing to see how much support Trump must have gotten. I think 90 million is probably pushing it, but 85 seems realistic all things considering.
All of them. Liberals are too dumb to fill out ballots.
Kek!
We certainly aren't going to concede the steal this time. But after we win this, we can never forget and need to primary every single house and senate republican. Start fresh.
A few are good.
Sounds suspiciously like what defending the US Constitution as the highest law of the land would accomplish.
Cross that Rubicon, Don! https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
All too true
BUT
where are your solutions? I don't see any solutions
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too
I’m fine with that plan. Whatever it takes
We might actually be in a much more secure position in 2022. Edit: my comment has been misinterpreted. President Trump has already won. He is dragging it out in order to minimize the damage as much as possible. When I say we will be more secure in 2022, that’s because that will be after President Trump’s 2 year purge of traitors, during his second term.
I should have clarified.
we're not accepting joe.
Yes. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too
You have GREAT energy and spirit! Are you ready for some refinement?
This is freedom's last stand. POTUS is only part of it. Sounds like you're in GA? I don't know when you're runoff election is, or why you even need one. Fraud is rampant in every race, every precinct, even those we won. Even Alaska's election board has been found to be corrupt!.
Americans die on our feet rather than living on our knees. And deterrence is the best use of force. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Of course not. I wasn’t suggesting that. I’ll die before that outcome.
It’s a done deal, though. Joe has no chance. None. Zero.
Just wait, and you’ll see.
I was not suggesting we give up now and wait until 2022.
I was saying that during the first two years of his second term, President Trump will purge the government big time, leaving a much more secure election in 2022.
Nope. There’s no need to wait. President Trump has it in the bag.
There will be no Biden presidency.
We focus on 2022 because Trump has already won, yet people don’t realize it yet. In 2022, we can get both houses of congress. We can set this country back on the right path for an entire generation.
Speak for yourself.
The system won't fix itself, you're right about that much at least.
You can be every bit as much what we need as the first soldier into battle on D-Day. He also survived the battle of Bastogne, and came home in one piece both physically and mentally. The only thing exceptional about my Uncle Frank was
DETERMINATION
This is freedom's last stand. Look over Arlington National cemetery, you can do that quite well online. Don't forfeit everything this Nation ever stood for without so much as a whimper
Nope. You have it all wrong.
100% Trump will receive his second term. By 2022, the traitors will be purged completely. Everything will be more secure.
You’re not intelligent enough to crack unwise at me; plur.
I'll bite - what makes you think this? What's going to prevent the Dems from stealing every statewide election from now on? The way I see it, Republicans will win house seats and state legislatures, but never a governor, senator, or president again.
See my earlier comment.
I never suggested we wait until 2022.
I am 100% certain Trump will win the election OFFICIALLY. Biden will NEVER be president.
We will be more secure in 2022, because we will purge this country of traitors during the first two years of President Trump’s second term.
I would never suggest that we give up now, and focus on 2022. I will die before the cheaters win. Good thing I won’t have to.
You're assuming we just accept the steal and the US continues to exist as a sovereign Nation?!?
I thought you knew better. Obviously he's talking about doing the right thing instead.
Right. I’m talking about President Trump making things more secure by purging the traitors.
You are absolutely right that the U.S.A. would cease to exist, if the steal went through.
The Dimrats are through. They’re already doomed.
No.
IF we don't stop the steal of this election
We WILL stop the steal one way or another. The media thinks we’re bluffing. They’re gonna find out we aren’t.
Fuck. Yes.
After what was found in Georgia it's blatantly clear and either he gets in and remains our president or the hell that will come from a cracked earth spills out and every traitor Will be on their own
This x above 9,000!
Or above 70 million is more like it.
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too
Fuck Around and Find Out...
I would regret that I only have but 1 updoot to give
except
I have a LOT more to give to our enemies trying to destroy this Nation forever. This is freedom's last stand!
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
We have until 1/19 to do the destruction in your last sentence, or to at least bw well on our way. No chances after that. You need much more info than you have, I'm 30 years ahead of you.
Currency converter 🤷♂️
You have to create separate S-Corps to shield you from most of the burden of W-2 taxes. Then try to incorporate in different countries that have way less tax than the US. Stash profits in the cayman Islands or equivalent in order to protect from IRS and the ex-wife
Yes, this was all true before Trump. That's why we lit Trump's fuse and threw him in. He blew a crack in the system and has plainly exposed the establishment for what it is. Do what you will, but we as a whole must continue to pick away at the crack. Every proof of fraud, new local leaders, new national leaders, will bring more to the fight at our side. This is not something that can be done overnight.
The timeline has hard deadlines, and we MUST succeed:
12/14 electors vote. Best chance of Courts helping is before this and at State level, NOT SCOTUS. Any Court hearing evidence will greatly help with public opinion. SCOTUS could still do something til 1/6, 1 PM. Just not likely. Then a meeting VP Pence presides over. After that, if all else fails it's
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Not enough.
the legal battles aren't over. No Judge has even heard any evidence. 12/14 is an important deadline, but doesn't exhaust all legal remedies. Slim chance something could change by 1/6, a meeting that starts at 1 PM that VP Pence will be presiding over. (God willing and prayers for Divine protection are very much in order)
The legality of Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too
Just yesterday I thought 2) couldn't happen, and only the unorganized militia could fix this. Read those comments and see why we're enough, and with the CiC we're unbeatable
You don't realize what they have in store if we don't. You don't know what the great reset means. You don't know what OWG means. This is freedom's last stand. Do not go quietly into that dark night
Don't shit on the troops. Your last few sentences are ok but the opener is cancer. Do you know the timeline? How about the legality of
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
I set up a discord separates meme era by state so you can get in touch with pedes at the state level. I’ve gotten nothing but back lash.
I’d argue the 2016 election was our last election.
The mongoloid squad was installed with similar circumstances..
I'd even argue that the last election was waaaaaaaaaaay before 2016 and Trump was a fluke they didn't expect to happen because so many people voted for him even their cheating didn't stop it.
I concur, everyone thought Hillary by a mile, everyone meaning deep state, msm, etc.
Trump got too many votes to fake it
They needed widespread mail in ballots.
Introduced covid, hyped it, and here we are
CCP is a paper tiger. The CCP is less hostile to the American people than our globo-homo elite. Change my mind.
Globohomo is worldwide. Not just domestic enemies, although they are long entrenched
Yup. 100%
It's a little too obvious isn't it. Bill gates signs $100 billion deal for contract tracing just before it all goes down.
Plus I saw that Infertility may be a side effect
They’re saying that the vaccine provokes an immune response to the same protein that’s in human placentas. I’ve only seen this claimed so far, no actual evidence, but if this is true then sterilizing a significant portion of our population isn’t going to help anybody but people like Bill Gates, who think we need to reduce the world population via vaccines.
That helps the DS
They weren’t supposed to lose. Trump was the glitch. And thank God for that.
Thanks for paraphrasing what I literally just said.
Instead of futz’in around like fags here’s some details of those past corrupted elections-
https://foia.state.gov/Search/Results.aspx?searchText=&beginDate=&endDate=&publishedBeginDate=20201201&publishedEndDate=20201202&caseNumber=
Godspeed and god bless.
You’re very welcome. In my country we call that ‘agreement’.
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Roight off the scales !
At this point I don't think we've had an election. Someone mentioned how in 2016 there was a DDOS that prevented the altering of votes on the Dominion machines and that's how Trump won, by a close to real election which is why Clinton conceded that night because they knew they couldnt get it.
If the Russians performed the attack then they were kind of right about Russia interfering but couldn’t prove it without revealing their own fraud.
That's what I'm kind of thinking, but what if it was actually someone tied to say WikiLeaks. It was just easy to blame Russia just as they did Seth Rich. I think a patriot saved us that day. That one person, if in fact it was one person or a small team, literally saved America because we would be in hell right now and have no clue about what is truly going on.
They had ‘insurance policy’ after insurance policy so you may be right.
It was also too early for their rollout in 2016.
Ie. They just pulled off wins with Dominion in Philippines via Aquino in 2010. An Obama puppet that was one of several test pilots for their election manipulation.
I mean, apparently the dominion sales team would offer "Election Insurance"... maybe they were actually being more literal with their words than people took it for?
Everything about dominion down to their logo is psyop bullshit. Reagan said ‘Don’t be afraid to see what you see’.
The issue is, many are blinded from the truth or just don’t care. They just want to smash the ‘like’ button and get their free food and shelter.
None of this election fraud is new. In 2002 there was testimony before Congress from a worker in a company that furnished voting machines that it could switch any race 49 - 51 without a trace, and the only way anybody would ever know is by manually recounting every paper ballot.
We haven't had a fair election in 20 years, or longer. Do not go quietly into that dark night
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Maga party. Never was an R.... love Trump and what he stands for and will back anyone who delivers his same views but the rnc and gop are the same as the left.... its like wwe, all show back when both sides go back to the locker room all are the same swamp team
Honestly I'd much rather just retake the republican party from the traitors. Let them make the new party.
Primaries are for clearing our RINOs. Generals are for fighting commies.
Trump made the GOP his party. Now the politicians need to get in line or get voted out in primaries, but never stop fighting socialists.
GEOTUS hopefully will get Mike Lee’s Bill and Beto it.
So tell me again why I should give a shit about voting in the upcoming run-off in GA. It is starting to look like they traded the White House for the senate. I don’t want to give the Rinos what they expect. The GOP should be done starting today, fuck em and feed em fish heads!!
And? Not waiting until 2022 to send a message. Sounds a lot like the “vote blue no matter who” shit the smooth brains take part in.
Democrat victories in those races will weaken Trump more than RINO victories will. RINO losses in the 2022 primaries, will strengthen Trump tremendously.
These senators, representatives, governors, only have value based on what they can do for President Trump.
GREAT answer!
Because President Trump asked me to.
This is the ONLY reason.
Watching him for many years leads me to believe he still has cards up his sleeve, and odds of a second term are much better than is being reported. His reorganization’s behind the scenes right now are preparing for a major swamp drain. Play your part as best you can, whenever he asks.
He asked us to vote for him in the presidential election and look what happened. The GOP quit on him the second the media declared Biden the winner. Thanks to the Republicans’ unwillingness to fight for Trump and the American people, I’ll never vote for a single Republican ever again, and if this election stands, I’ll never VOTE again since there’s no point, I have no voice and my vote doesn’t count.
This is known as the black pill. What you're saying almost makes sense on 1/20 if the globohomos install their puppet, Biden. We can NOT let that happen, and apparently you don't know why not. This is NOT politics as usual
You do realize that's basically what I said right? If the Republican party gives up on Trump and allows Biden into the white house, then they've won and they will control all elections going forward. That's a fact.
And so far, the Republican party hasn't given me much reason to believe they'll do what's right. They are an extension of the Democrat party.
You still don't get it. What happens if OWG installs their puppet, Biden?
What is the great reset, really?
Why the threats of renewed lockdowns? Especially if either a vaccine or mask helps.
Worrying about 2022 now is just a distraction. This is freedom's last stand. 12/14, 1/6, Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Couldn't agree more. And the 'effing senators in GA that everybody wants us to put in are two of the ones that just buried the knife in our backs. I just lost my job to an Indian! Then I went out and voted in this election anyway, and they do THIS to me?
The RINOs and the Dems may not agree on cultural or economic issues but they sure as hell agree that the globalist way is the only way to run a country
Do NOT expect the GOP to fight for the average man if Trump is not president. More jobs and factories will be outsourced for profit.
Correction: the globalist way is to RUIN the Country. You don't know their plans for that. Qe only lose if we don't fight.
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too
The GOP isn't fighting for the average man while Trump IS president.
It's a game. If they think they need us to win, they may give us the time we need to get a court win, a vote de-certification by a state, and/ or more & more whistle blowers. It doesn't matter whether we show up or not, we know that. They don't. But if they lose, they think they win anyway cause the RINOs will 'deal make' w/ a couple Ds and convince the next gen how 'free' we are. What they don't know is we won't let 'em. This is an end game, one way or another - for them, and for this country as we know it.
A fair question.
First of all, we can NOT accept the steal. That's a separate issue, but please realize what they have planned is the end of freedom. Also I think GA voted in those Senators and every race, every precinct has fraud, even those we won.
Next, realize the carrot and stick that turns Rs into RINOs. We have to beat that whole DS, not just a few elections. This is why we voted in DJT in 2016, and what MAGA is. Don't give up because we haven't achieved 100% success yet!
Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments. Hard deadlines exist: 12/14, 1/6, 1/20. When is your runoff election?
The politicians in Washington fear the left, they fear the riots and the looting and the burning. They fear the optics of the racial overtones.
Politicians in Washington absolutely do not fear the right. We never do jack squat. And the moment some people on the right step out of line, they get labeled white nationalists, and then they disappear.
They don't fear the left. They are the left
Yup
I don't think they fear the far left per se. I think they fear their family being blown up in a car like Anderson Deal. That's CIA, that's China, that's deep state. That's what they fear. Antifa radicals?? They'll just have 15 police guard their mansion for that. No big deal.
EXACTLY! If we drain the swamp even RINOs might prove to not be so bad. And if we don't? Death is preferable to Marxism. And ain't no motherfucker been able to kill me yet. This is the endgame. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
We can change that. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
With Donald Trump, this is the first time the people have finally been given an actual choice since Reagan. This isn’t a Romney or a McCain, he is somebody that the deep state legitimately doesn’t want as a president. The Republican Party must follow suit with his example or start packing their bags. Too much is at stake.
I used to be a shit lib, I will admit I voted for Obama in 2012. I am not proud, but it happened. Trump made me switch parties from D to R.
I don't think the GOP understands I have zero problem changing my party affiliation to Independent and never voting red down ticket again and only voting for right wing populists when they come. Fuck them. They use me? HA, try that shit again see how it works out.
Fuckin faggots. I know a staffer of one of you fags sees this. FUCK YOU.
Based
Know the timing. Also you're skipping a box. There won't be any jury, but 12/14 is the deadline for most of what Courts can do. They haven't even heard any evidence yet. There is a slight chance SCOTUS could intervene by 1/6. A meeting starts 1 PM that day that VP Mike Pence presides over. If none of that fixes this, it's Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too. Just yesterday I didn't think this could happen, and it was up to us to act independently. It still will be if Don doesn't cross the Rubicon, and it has to conclude appropriately before 1/20. As my brother from another mother Razorfist says -
God fucking speed!
The GOP doesn't need your vote in the future. They have Dominion.
It's OWG that has dominion if we accept the steal. GOP was never part of their plans. They care little more about DNC
I also voted for Obama in 2012. Tbh, ppl calling me a racist all the time for watching trump videos in 2016 is what really made me vote for him. That, plus America First. Who the fuck is against putting America First?
Yeah that shouldn't even be available as a political slogan. Everybody should be trying to MAGA, just competing ideas how to achieve that same goal.
Independent, voting exactly as you describe, is most of us here.
Staffers. Regardless how Deal died yesterday, that's the sort of DS stick (and carrot) that turns Rs into RINOs.
Realize what we're up against. This is NOT politics as usual. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Gotta read through those comments, some necessary links etc
Enjoy your two extra Democratic votes in the Senate and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer.
Enjoy them voting to stack the Supreme Court.
Enjoy them getting rid of the Electoral College.
Enjoy them preventing a MAGA candidate from ever winning any election again.
Enjoy China running the US for the next 50 years (at least).
The time for purity tests in during the primary, not now!!! Keep GA red!!!
It's really hard.
The people we're being told to vote for have already dissed Trump and praised Biden.
The sitting GOP senators are voting against Trump and the people.
If Trump wins, the GOP already has a majority in the Senate because of Pence breaking ties.
If Trump loses, the fraud will be solidified: any future 's'elections will go to compromised swamp creatures willing to sell out America, and the existing Senate will keep stabbing us in the back.
I get that Trump is saying to vote for them, but it's still a really hard sell. For me it's moot as I'm many states away, but I absolutely understand the hesitation to support these two.
The only way it really makes a difference if these two win is in a theoretical world where the GOP reliably opposes the deconstruction of America and stands up for the people. I'll trust Trump on this unless he somehow fails and Biden ends up President, but it's really difficult to trust the system.
I agree with everything except "tie-breaker Pence" is a meme. The real tie-breaker is Mitt Romney, his so-called conscience won't allow Pence to break a tie.
Ain't that the truth. Unfortunately, between Romney, Collins, and Murkowski, the Dems will have a majority even if Perdue and Loeffer both win.
This is bigger than what you're looking at though. Most importantly, we can NOT accept the steal! This should be true of every race, every precinct.
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
Even if it's less than that, it's still better than a D 0% of the time. Including impeachment.
This is truth. In this particular instance, RINOS winning is better for Trump. In the 2022 primaries, the opposite will be true.
All that matters, is whether or not the politicians help President Trump, or are useful to his strategy. Voting for the RINOS in this instance, isn’t “voting Red no matter what,” it’s voting based on President Trump’s strategy.
Yeah but the point is to play chicken with the GOP so they don't think they can get away sitting on their asses and get the Senate.
Better strategy:.
barrage both your Senators over the issues in the OP. It's not tio late, Rubicon Don will veto both bills and they'll have another chance to get it right.
If either of your Senators is R, make it perfectly plain they'll be primaried if they fuck this up.
Sidenote: our military budget is complex enough to deserve its own bill. Section 230 should be dealt with on its own, too.
Unfortunately, living in the People's Republic of New Jersey my senators are Spartacus and that pedophile Menendez. We have a better chance of Jeb! becoming an interesting person or Hilary conceding 2016 than either of those to fighting against their party.
Joisey boy here! Living in WI now. I feel your pain ...
Don’t forget four more dem senators.
And a new flag.
Probably a completely different flag.
Please don't phrase things this way. It's confusing. I know what you mean, but there's nothing positive about forfeiting the Senate. Or the Nation.
Agreed. There is only one way forward here and it is by cleaning up our system now.
We fight now or lose our country forever.
What will the GOP be campaigning on in 2022? Providing us with hot water in our 'truth and conciliation camps'?
Trump 2020 is the hill to die on because it's the only hill we got left
Yes but realize the scope of their hearings was solely to shape future policy. Hopefully Rudy used it aa a chance for witnesses to gain experience testifying. Before a Judge will have different significance.
EXAACTLY! I say fuck the GOP. We are not Democrats that vote blue no matter who. Dont let democrats have control of the senate, but republicans wont defend your rights, instead supply highly skilled foreigners to serve big tech and other big corporations to take high paying jobs that would otherwise go to American workers and also support mass unmitigated immigration and amnesty for all ILLEGAL ALIENS. Lin and Sidney are 100% right, even if Trump said vote. If i was in Georgia, i would vote for a 3rd party if one was available. FUCK THE GOP, they wont even stand and fight with Trump to stop a coup against him. TRUMP MUST PREVIL, Pence breaks any ties in the senate!
The two bills in the OP, Rubicon Don will veto. That'll give your Senators the chance to get it right. Barrage them on this issue. If either is an R, make it plain they will be primaried over getting this wrong.
It's time to call people to the streets and declare politician season open.
The gop is one wing of the uniparty. Tear it off and that bird can't fly anymore. Let the leftists take control of the democrats and those few sane who leave and reject them will also vote Lion party. This is the way! Scorched earth
Yes, good😁
Even Rand Paul and Ted Cruz?
I haven't heard any kind of excuse from them for why they were MIA on Mike Lee's visa give away. Have you?
And Josh Hawley?
There have been threads on here that have seriously made me consider moving to Missouri in spite of the McClosky's debacle.
There are better, but there are a few examples that should be kept. Barrage both your Senators over the issues in the OP!
Traitors all of them.
Contact BOTH your Senators about the bills in the OP. It's not too late. Rubicon Don will veto these, so they'll have another chance to get it right.
The GOP should now be the Trump party.
VoTe fOr ThEm AnD sHuT uP!
wE'rE aLL iN tHiS tOgEtHeR!
It's time to destroy both parties.
I agree. Once we hang all of them, and have the election systems cleaned up... then we can have elections again, and we'll have a clean slate.
One night of shock and awe.
A bunch of spineless fucks that need to go. This is why we need term limits. Senators should only be 1 term since they are there for 6 years.
Incumbents survive by the use of dominion. That’s why they don’t want Trump looking into this.
They don't want to win, they just want to keep The Grift
With this in mind it seems Trump has no choice but to declare martial law and run a new election.
I feel like our current leaders wouldn't even listen to a scotus ruling.
Can't declare a new election for POTUS, but CAN remain in power indefinitely. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
That the swamp runs deep
Absolutely. Must primary everyone.
If by primary you mean hang
There should be a great winnowing.
It tells me that voting doesn't work anymore. Might be time to try something else.
Deadlines: 12/14, 1/6. Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
I get your spirit pede but that’s not how senate elections work.
Senators serve six year terms and their re-elections are staggered every two years. You could only get rid of about a third in 2022. You would need to oust the second third in 2024 and then last third in 2026.
Ha! 2022? I'll be shocked if most of the politicians are still alive in 2022.
Ave Caesar
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments
You don't seriously think they are going to let us win another election after they cheated so nuch this time?
We only lose if we don't fight.
We’re going to need a lot of tar and feathers!
REMEMBER LINDSEY GRAHM FIST BUMPING THE KAMALA CUNT? THESE PEOPLE ALL THINK WE ARE DUMB.
Timing. Deadlines: 12/14, 1/6
That during this whole Political realignment a lot of people made the mistake of trusting the GOP
Just cause leftist went insane NEVER meant the other side was remotely Trustworthy.
There's 1 person that represents me and what I want.
GEOTUS
Did you not understand what happened yesterday?
Carrot and stick is a lot more varied than you're thinking.
Julie, it tells me we're going to need more rope.
OUT OUT OUT!!!!!!!
That's why I say we need to leave the Republican Party ENTIRELY. We need to become MAGA Party. Those willing to leave the Republican Party and join the MAGA Party will have the balls to stand. Too many RINO's hide easily within the GOP among those who do want to do their job. MAGA is better than GOP.
The letters aren't what matters. Did you not understand what happened yesterday? Carrot and stick will corrupt anyone. We need to beat the whole DS, that's why we voted for DJT in 2016. Once other options are exhausted by 1/6 it's Rubicon Don!
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlFkuHOW/theyre-getting-it-now-/c/
Required reading in some of the comments, too
Pedes need to stat getting active at a local level. Volunteer to help MAGA candidates. Prob will venture to help some recent CA House candidates next time theyre up. Need to MAGA hard. Never surrender frens!
Deals that sell out the American people, and pad their own pockets. No thanks.
Rubicon Don will veto both bills. Barrage both your Senators over the issues in the OP.
It tells me they must be destroyed.
It's a disgrace. We have the same problem in the UK. We keep voting for the "Conservatives" and Brexit over and over and over again. It's because of immigration. Yet the politicians want to act like we're voting for them because of some other bullshit reasons. There really is no political solution in the UK.
Flush them out and take them down
Agreed. The GOPs in the Senate need to go as well.
Contact BOTH your Senators about the bills in the OP. Rubicon Don will veto them, so your Senators will have the chance to get it right.
Need to secure the vote first. Electronic voting machines need to be illegal. Paper only. Military oversight of elections as well. Punishment for fraud needs to he death. Plain and simple. People were obviously not intimidated by five years in jail and a felony.
We facilitated a fair election in Afghanistan of all places, we can do it here! First we need to correct the fraud this year, at least for the WH. Death before Marxism
What a fucking useless party. I voted for Trump and made sure to not vote for the down-ballot RINOs. Our loyalty is to the President, not them!
It takes each person in their respective states to do their duty and watch their legislators and hold feet to the fire. In my former congressional office there were constituents we got to know personally. They always made their voices heard. I pray people will continue to stay engaged. It's a blast. Library of Congress. The clearing house of everything you need to know.