The director of the CIA isn’t a difficult person to find. Perhaps investigative journalism 🤷♂️ Start at her house, searching public record, ect. Come on, you seriously can’t be this dim witted.
The CIA wants trump to lose, having trump supporters waste energy chasing a dead end means we are not using it investigating real fraud and thus it is in the cia's best interest to keep the rumor alive
There was a video on the “Hot” page earlier from Newsmax about a Zoom call with the Fulton County Secretary of Elections (or whatever) basically saying he hadn’t seen the suitcase video, but at one point on the chyron it said “Haspel ‘alive and well’” which I thought was an odd thing to have to point out. Who knows what, if anything, it means but it just seemed random and odd and stuck out to me
I think it's to get everyone. Think about it , if you had a fraud on this scale, you have 100's if not 1000's of people involved.
yes to us this tick tock sucks. But think how bad it is for the people involved. And they all have to try and keep their stories together. You can see that the ice is starting to crack. Look at the ga folks can't keep their stories straight. Ruby is hiring a lawyer and says its bigger then her. The entire house of cards will fall.
Nah, you only need a key team of people in the system. Call it 4. Then you need a few corrupt officials, maybe 12 to 15.
Then, you’d have teams to print and deliver ballots to pump up numbers for algorithm, and standard ballot stuffing fraud.
Ballot stuffing was already done, so these teams aren’t in the loop. They just needed to do what they’ve always done.
I think we’re looking at a team of 25 to 35 max.
Note that we know how the counting works, you really only needed these ballot stuffing teams to do their thing when they “stopped counting.”
That that one last said she needed a lawyer because this was bigger than her... I think she got some help to beef up their ballot stuffing, then she sees video and heard how Dominion is doing her thing, and she’s thinking “oh shit, they used us to defraud the vote on a massive scale, and I’m going to take the hit for it.”
It may be a way to flush out actors, too. Allude to a deep secret, see who pounces with bullshit.
Bring outside the campaign also means anything she says is hers, and if they’re pumping out info it could make bad actors scramble because it would cause concern of multiple leaks.
No. It's all a disinformation operation put on by the only smart ones in the swamp. The intelligence community. I bet they are even telling Trump this crap. They already bragged about giving Trump false intel information in his daily briefings. There is no military counterintelligence operation and Q is controlled opposition to keep us thinking something is going on when nothing is going on so we chill and wake up one day with no time left and nothing has happened.
The Art of War. Even if we don't have the server, make them think we do.
It will change how some feel about partisipating in the fraud.
I'm not saying we don't have it. I just don't know.
Wrong. Since the election we know about the Fox fuckery. We know about Gov Kemp and many other RINOs who are our enemies and behind the scenes they have more and more proof of who is involved. We would know none of this if Trump had shot his wad weeks ago. You never play the trump card first, you play the trump card last.
They knew where it was and which one to take and when to take it.
Imho, I would bet Space force was in it. SF because it’s a new branch, created under commander and chief Trump, and lots of cyber warfare edicts.
After Russia hoax, Trump has every pretext to issue EOs AND monitor election activity online. “What’s this? Data going to Germany? Look into it, wow, it’s getting backups of our voting data from precincts and it’s connected to China...”
Yes I believe so. Sidney Powell and General THOMAS G. MCINERNEY said so. Sorry that was a copy and paste name. Also google his name and all you see are articles saying this was fact checked false. How and the fuck would fact checkers know this? That’s top secret information. I am saying how the fuck would fact checkers know anything? The witness who said the white hat hackers traced it to Germany is another.
Option A) If there was a covert op and this happened, not only would fact checkers have no info about it, neither would Powell, Wood, etc. If, for some reason they did know and went blabbing on TV about it, they should be tossed in prison.
I guess we will see. I don’t know why they would say we have the server? The
expert witness said they traced the data to Germany . You would think Trump would want that information. 5 Spec Ops dying in a helicopter crash around that time doesn’t make sense. Top Secret missions that result in death always have a cover story. Sooooooo with all these people talking about it.... Who has said no it didn’t happen? Fact checkers?? You can say bullshit all you want. Every time something is brought up that seems crazy people like you deny it. After that it comes out as true. Same with the watermarks. People like you said not true and now look. Every single thing Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn , and others have said has been true. So keep denying all you want. Ignorance is bliss.
The only thing I was able to confirm is lots of v-22 osprey flying low at night in multiple formations near Frankfurt after Nov 3, 2020. Also cia director Gina Cheri Walker Haspel has not been heard or seen since Nov 10.
No idea. I have seen a lot of evidence and even proof of targeted, and possibly systematic, election fraud. But I haven’t seen anything yet that corroborates the seized German server story. If there is such a thing, it would seem they have a legal reason to not make it public.
If we have the use of foreign assets to undermine a US election, is that a judicial matter, criminal matter or military matter? Would a server seized from the CIA be secret? Can secret information be dumped on the public domain? If you have a coup attempt to overthrow the US government, is the evidence released to the public or used to execute the war?
Who knows if there really is a server? That's top secret info if they do and we would not be told.
The fact of the vote flipping is easy for any idiot who knows how to read JSON can tell you. The rest is speculation until the fireworks begin.
If it were true, The President would have told us by now. Just listen to Trump and Rudy. These other people are being used to discredit Rudy and Trump and make them look nuts.
Well you have to operate from a baseline assumption; the server(s?) exist. Election data was sent to spain/germany, there’s documented proof scytl has a data backup site there.
So, the question is., do you think it’s possible the United States possess the capability to execute an operation to recover computer equipment?
I mean, with all of the resources at our disposal, is it so hard to believe that we could raid a dats backup facility? The real question is.. does evidence exist on the servers? Were the drives wiped after the election? I doubt it, since even when the date (Nov 7) the raid occurred, states were still counting votes.
Ultimately we may never know, since it’s possible the data was wiped, or servers hijacked by CIA. But I don’t understand why anyone finds it so implausible that servers could be recovered from a known data backup facility. It’s not like the servers are stored in another dimension or on another planet, its fucking Germany.
I think it's quite possible. If true, they need to get the American people ready for what's coming by raising awareness and anger over the steal. Also getting all their ducks in a row to arrest everyone in a short amount of time so no one can get away, destroy evidence, kill themselves, etc.
I'm not sure about the Frankfurt server story which also includes a server in Stockholm, Sweden.
No clue.
I do think Trump wants time to prepare the public for the uncovering of corrupt government bureaus so I believe he would prefer to do this in a few months so he's working to win without the necessity of exposing the CIA and others right now. I also believe he will if he has to if he has the servers.
Absolutely not. The server story kept changing the longer it was circulating. The only news sites that carried it were hole-in-the-wall blogs except for Gateway Pundit. I heard at least 6 different versions. John Solomon, the revered investigative journalist, said he looked into it & it did not happen. If it was real, Trump would have first-hand knowledge of it as our Commander in Chief, but he hasn't said a word. It had happened, you know Trump would be bragging about it. If it happened, Trump wouldn't need all his lawyers frantically digging through election law & security camera footage, because he'd have the proof in this so-called server. This server story is a LARP, a prank that was devoured by the naive who refuse to let it go.
Yes, this was my thoughts exactly! Why would we all be going through hell and Trump putting his lawyers through hell if he had evidence like that. It is really disappointing because I thought he would have been more prepared for this. The Dems broadcasted what they were going to do for years and yet he seems like he was taken off guard.
Would everyone have seen the testimony? The videos? No. The public is now onboard. Even a retarded normie can be shown the proof. You don't arrest governors, congressmen, CEOs out of the blue. Trump needed the groundwork laid. It's almost time.
I lean the direction that they did, but my guess for possible reasons it hasn't been made fully public are.
They may feel the way that they were acquired or the information on them may make using them in court as evidence more difficult, and are focusing on building cases that will be more palatable for a swift decisions. Tech evidence is always going to be harder to push in courts due to lack of understanding and the cases ultimately hinge on you expert witnesses as a result. Right now swift results are needed to move through court systems to get up to the SC.
They are being held as insurance for other avenues or investigations (like #1 these cases would likely take much longer to resolve through courts).
Depending on what was gotten and if it was locked down securely the most useful parts might be encrypted.
It's not know what these machines were doing in the first place. Where they routing, counting, storing data, modifying data in transit? They may have been doing nothing incredulous themselves and excepting for the major issue of any voting machines being in contact with foreign servers may only be minorly useful for investigations base on logs etc.
If the rumors about CIA involvement vs. Mil Intel have any merit, this would have massive implications on its own.
Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, General McInery, and General Mike Flynn have ALL confirmed the existence of the Servers, and the capture of them. I trust the 4 of them, over anyone in this website.
If for NO other reason, the AP Fact Checkers are denying the story (about the servers) which tells me it is true. The shit brained AP Fact Checkers are always wrong on ANYTHING and EVERYTHING about Trump. So, therefore, this must be true.
I find it hard to believe, but the fact no one has seen Gina Haspel in weeks makes me wonder.
Was she the type of person commoners saw much of before the election?
When they wanted to, with this type of attention any of the journalists would be aiming to get a picture of her to shut down a “conspiracy” theorist.
How do the journalist know where she is or where she is going to be to get the picture?
The director of the CIA isn’t a difficult person to find. Perhaps investigative journalism 🤷♂️ Start at her house, searching public record, ect. Come on, you seriously can’t be this dim witted.
Call me dim-witted but I think you are overestimating the ease of this task
Time will tell. I hope she is well, but I think if so she would have put the rumor mill to rest herself or has been spotted.
The CIA wants trump to lose, having trump supporters waste energy chasing a dead end means we are not using it investigating real fraud and thus it is in the cia's best interest to keep the rumor alive
There was a video on the “Hot” page earlier from Newsmax about a Zoom call with the Fulton County Secretary of Elections (or whatever) basically saying he hadn’t seen the suitcase video, but at one point on the chyron it said “Haspel ‘alive and well’” which I thought was an odd thing to have to point out. Who knows what, if anything, it means but it just seemed random and odd and stuck out to me
I think it's to get everyone. Think about it , if you had a fraud on this scale, you have 100's if not 1000's of people involved. yes to us this tick tock sucks. But think how bad it is for the people involved. And they all have to try and keep their stories together. You can see that the ice is starting to crack. Look at the ga folks can't keep their stories straight. Ruby is hiring a lawyer and says its bigger then her. The entire house of cards will fall.
Hoping that Ruby has the courage to disclose the next level of corruption. Would love to see it connected to other municipalities.
Fuck her courage.
She can do 5 years for turning, or 25 for taking it up her ass.
I agree there needs to be a price. It is a shame this lady might do serious time for $250 of poll worker pay.
I think they should put the mother and daughter in a room and say, "One of you will get 5 years, the other 15. Whoever squeals first gets 5."
Nice.
And no matter who squeals they get double tapped...in Minecraft
Nah, you only need a key team of people in the system. Call it 4. Then you need a few corrupt officials, maybe 12 to 15.
Then, you’d have teams to print and deliver ballots to pump up numbers for algorithm, and standard ballot stuffing fraud.
Ballot stuffing was already done, so these teams aren’t in the loop. They just needed to do what they’ve always done.
I think we’re looking at a team of 25 to 35 max.
Note that we know how the counting works, you really only needed these ballot stuffing teams to do their thing when they “stopped counting.”
That that one last said she needed a lawyer because this was bigger than her... I think she got some help to beef up their ballot stuffing, then she sees video and heard how Dominion is doing her thing, and she’s thinking “oh shit, they used us to defraud the vote on a massive scale, and I’m going to take the hit for it.”
I am a skeptic. I hope they have it, because if they don't, Powell's credibility comes into question.
Powell could be under a directed disinformation campaign designed to keep her chasing ghosts.
I’ve wondered about that, too.
It may be a way to flush out actors, too. Allude to a deep secret, see who pounces with bullshit.
Bring outside the campaign also means anything she says is hers, and if they’re pumping out info it could make bad actors scramble because it would cause concern of multiple leaks.
No. It's all a disinformation operation put on by the only smart ones in the swamp. The intelligence community. I bet they are even telling Trump this crap. They already bragged about giving Trump false intel information in his daily briefings. There is no military counterintelligence operation and Q is controlled opposition to keep us thinking something is going on when nothing is going on so we chill and wake up one day with no time left and nothing has happened.
The Art of War. Even if we don't have the server, make them think we do. It will change how some feel about partisipating in the fraud. I'm not saying we don't have it. I just don't know.
It seems like the watermarked ballots. If they did have servers and marked ballots this would all be over. Just my opinion.
Wrong. Since the election we know about the Fox fuckery. We know about Gov Kemp and many other RINOs who are our enemies and behind the scenes they have more and more proof of who is involved. We would know none of this if Trump had shot his wad weeks ago. You never play the trump card first, you play the trump card last.
I think they were already in the server.
They knew where it was and which one to take and when to take it.
Imho, I would bet Space force was in it. SF because it’s a new branch, created under commander and chief Trump, and lots of cyber warfare edicts.
After Russia hoax, Trump has every pretext to issue EOs AND monitor election activity online. “What’s this? Data going to Germany? Look into it, wow, it’s getting backups of our voting data from precincts and it’s connected to China...”
Yes I believe so. Sidney Powell and General THOMAS G. MCINERNEY said so. Sorry that was a copy and paste name. Also google his name and all you see are articles saying this was fact checked false. How and the fuck would fact checkers know this? That’s top secret information. I am saying how the fuck would fact checkers know anything? The witness who said the white hat hackers traced it to Germany is another.
You’ve hit some solid points.
Option A) If there was a covert op and this happened, not only would fact checkers have no info about it, neither would Powell, Wood, etc. If, for some reason they did know and went blabbing on TV about it, they should be tossed in prison.
Option B) it’s a bunch of bullshit
I am going with Option B
I guess we will see. I don’t know why they would say we have the server? The
expert witness said they traced the data to Germany . You would think Trump would want that information. 5 Spec Ops dying in a helicopter crash around that time doesn’t make sense. Top Secret missions that result in death always have a cover story. Sooooooo with all these people talking about it.... Who has said no it didn’t happen? Fact checkers?? You can say bullshit all you want. Every time something is brought up that seems crazy people like you deny it. After that it comes out as true. Same with the watermarks. People like you said not true and now look. Every single thing Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn , and others have said has been true. So keep denying all you want. Ignorance is bliss.
The only thing I was able to confirm is lots of v-22 osprey flying low at night in multiple formations near Frankfurt after Nov 3, 2020. Also cia director Gina Cheri Walker Haspel has not been heard or seen since Nov 10.
No idea. I have seen a lot of evidence and even proof of targeted, and possibly systematic, election fraud. But I haven’t seen anything yet that corroborates the seized German server story. If there is such a thing, it would seem they have a legal reason to not make it public.
If we have the use of foreign assets to undermine a US election, is that a judicial matter, criminal matter or military matter? Would a server seized from the CIA be secret? Can secret information be dumped on the public domain? If you have a coup attempt to overthrow the US government, is the evidence released to the public or used to execute the war?
Who knows if there really is a server? That's top secret info if they do and we would not be told.
The fact of the vote flipping is easy for any idiot who knows how to read JSON can tell you. The rest is speculation until the fireworks begin.
Possibly attempting to make everyone expose themselves as corrupt.
No there wasn't.
Would you bet your life on that? Seems very matter of fact considering you can’t possibly know one way or the other.
He spoke as if he knew without doubt, as I stated. I simply asked if he was that certain.
No I don't think there was a raid.
Facts:
Trump most powerful man in the world.
Trump knew there would be a steal.
Trump wants 2nd term.
Ergo, it must be true that Trump arrayed his forces to defeat the steal.
However, we have seen no evidence of this before-the-fact planning.
If you see no evidence of something which must exist, the fix is in. Wait and watch.
If it were true, The President would have told us by now. Just listen to Trump and Rudy. These other people are being used to discredit Rudy and Trump and make them look nuts.
Well you have to operate from a baseline assumption; the server(s?) exist. Election data was sent to spain/germany, there’s documented proof scytl has a data backup site there.
So, the question is., do you think it’s possible the United States possess the capability to execute an operation to recover computer equipment?
I mean, with all of the resources at our disposal, is it so hard to believe that we could raid a dats backup facility? The real question is.. does evidence exist on the servers? Were the drives wiped after the election? I doubt it, since even when the date (Nov 7) the raid occurred, states were still counting votes.
Ultimately we may never know, since it’s possible the data was wiped, or servers hijacked by CIA. But I don’t understand why anyone finds it so implausible that servers could be recovered from a known data backup facility. It’s not like the servers are stored in another dimension or on another planet, its fucking Germany.
I think it's quite possible. If true, they need to get the American people ready for what's coming by raising awareness and anger over the steal. Also getting all their ducks in a row to arrest everyone in a short amount of time so no one can get away, destroy evidence, kill themselves, etc.
This. Thank you based pede, I'm starting to wonder if we are surrounded by tards.
I'm not sure about the Frankfurt server story which also includes a server in Stockholm, Sweden. No clue. I do think Trump wants time to prepare the public for the uncovering of corrupt government bureaus so I believe he would prefer to do this in a few months so he's working to win without the necessity of exposing the CIA and others right now. I also believe he will if he has to if he has the servers.
No
Absolutely not. The server story kept changing the longer it was circulating. The only news sites that carried it were hole-in-the-wall blogs except for Gateway Pundit. I heard at least 6 different versions. John Solomon, the revered investigative journalist, said he looked into it & it did not happen. If it was real, Trump would have first-hand knowledge of it as our Commander in Chief, but he hasn't said a word. It had happened, you know Trump would be bragging about it. If it happened, Trump wouldn't need all his lawyers frantically digging through election law & security camera footage, because he'd have the proof in this so-called server. This server story is a LARP, a prank that was devoured by the naive who refuse to let it go.
Yes, this was my thoughts exactly! Why would we all be going through hell and Trump putting his lawyers through hell if he had evidence like that. It is really disappointing because I thought he would have been more prepared for this. The Dems broadcasted what they were going to do for years and yet he seems like he was taken off guard.
Would everyone have seen the testimony? The videos? No. The public is now onboard. Even a retarded normie can be shown the proof. You don't arrest governors, congressmen, CEOs out of the blue. Trump needed the groundwork laid. It's almost time.
I lean the direction that they did, but my guess for possible reasons it hasn't been made fully public are.
They may feel the way that they were acquired or the information on them may make using them in court as evidence more difficult, and are focusing on building cases that will be more palatable for a swift decisions. Tech evidence is always going to be harder to push in courts due to lack of understanding and the cases ultimately hinge on you expert witnesses as a result. Right now swift results are needed to move through court systems to get up to the SC.
They are being held as insurance for other avenues or investigations (like #1 these cases would likely take much longer to resolve through courts).
Depending on what was gotten and if it was locked down securely the most useful parts might be encrypted.
It's not know what these machines were doing in the first place. Where they routing, counting, storing data, modifying data in transit? They may have been doing nothing incredulous themselves and excepting for the major issue of any voting machines being in contact with foreign servers may only be minorly useful for investigations base on logs etc.
If the rumors about CIA involvement vs. Mil Intel have any merit, this would have massive implications on its own.
Correct. I'll only add that the trump card never gets played early, the trump card gets played last. Plus here's your new timeline:
Expising the corruptees.
Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, General McInery, and General Mike Flynn have ALL confirmed the existence of the Servers, and the capture of them. I trust the 4 of them, over anyone in this website.
If for NO other reason, the AP Fact Checkers are denying the story (about the servers) which tells me it is true. The shit brained AP Fact Checkers are always wrong on ANYTHING and EVERYTHING about Trump. So, therefore, this must be true.