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aaafirefly123 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can’t separate who Jesus is from what he said.

To deny Jesus’s divinity is to deny his teachings.

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SHALL_NOT 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s just not true. You can doubt that Jesus ever really existed or that God exists, but believe the lessons for living that “fictional” Jesus taught. They are very good rules for life, whether or not you are a Christian. Obviously there are some of Jesus’s words you would have to discard: those relating to Jesus being son of god and all that. That type of belief doesn’t make you a Christian, but it will make you a better person.

If you don’t believe that...

  1. Jesus really lived, then died on the cross for our sins, to be resurrected and ascend to heaven

  2. Jesus was God in the form of a man

...you aren’t Christian, full stop. Those are the basics of being a Christian. AFAIK, every sect and offshoot has those two things as core tenets.

Similarly, many people believe there is a lot of wisdom and truth to what Gandalf had to say, but nobody thinks Gandalf was real. You have to discard any bits where he talks about wizards and valar, but you can believe that fictional Gandalf had some really good nuggets for living an honorable life.