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This is why we should rely on the statistical evidence (which nobody understands, apparently, so they aren't using it), which PROVES the votes are stolen. Also, GET
RID OF ANONYMOUS BALLOTS. Every ballot must be traceable to a voter! If you are too pussy to deal with that, you are too pussy to be voting in our republic!
What's the worse risk, having elections stolen, or having someone try to force you to prove who you voted for? Also, laws can be passed outlawing unions, employers, or anyone forcing you to prove who you voted for.
Us Trump supporters, especially us, need to understand that the secret ballot is necessary. Once potential employers, IRS employees, college admissions offices, police officers, banks and the FBI can all see how we vote then that creates a huge potential for us getting screwed. P.o
Named voting used to be a thing. People would then intimidate voters as they could check past voting. Mob bosses would pay bums after checking their voting receipt.
"People would intimidate voters?" What the fuck are you talking about, and what kind of a scared pussy are you? You would really allow someone to intimidate you as a voter? What else would you allow, someone to intimidate you and then feel up your wife in public?
The weak can always be intimidated for any number of reasons. That's not a reason to not have traceable, auditible ballots. Don't cater to, and structure society around, the weak, the idiots, the cowards, the morons, the corrupt, the inept, the easily intimidated, etc.
One part of the evil genius in their overall plan was chaos.
Chaos ensures that 1) no one can be held accountable because of all the fingure pointing and confusion, and 2) the broken chain of custody tgat helped to cover up the tracks leading back to the leaders of this coup, where, again, there is zero accountabilty.
Anyone who is questioned can point up or down their chain of command -- pleading ignorance of any knowledge or specifics that relates to who, what, when, where, or how.
It may all eventually be worked out, but long after the election is over and lng after Uncle Sniffy (this time) has taken the thrown.
No one will be prosecuted, and all will be counting and running our elections again by 2022.
That wouldn't stop someone working in digital forensics from recovering the data from a standard platter hard drive - a military grade wipe of a hard drive involves overwriting the entire drive 30 times with random data. If you only overwrite twice with random 1s and 0s for instance, there's a good chance you can still recover much of the original data. The more times you do it, the harder it gets which is why the military standard is 30.
Oh yeah I know, there are loads of programs that can do a secure wipe. The real question is did the tech who wiped the hard drives know this? If they did then the question would have to be asked 'What were they trying to hide?', if not then the data is recoverable and they're totally boned. Kind of puts them in a tight spot either way if they end up in front of a jury.
I'm under the suspicion that it is something as simple as an .ini (basically a text file for software configuration) file controlling the weighting of the votes.
So it would be easy to switch back and forth the settings. Hopefully it has not been tampered with since the election.
Even if they delete some data it can still be recovered. I found files I've deleted with a secure delete program, then reinstalled the computer, info was STILL there, that's with free recovery software and being self taught. The forensic guys can find all sorts of stuff. For example, did you know your computer logs the serial number , device, model , access date, time, file name accessed of each device you plug in to the USB? They would have to use magnets to wipe the drives fully but that's like going full Hillary on them.
Couldn't they just pull the drive and replace it with a clean one? Furthermore I remember hearing that the Dominion software would erase the evidence when put into cheater mode, after the dirty deeds were done.
Just hoping we aren't putting all of our eggs in the dominion fraud basket. There is a ton of statistical evidence suggesting fraud, and I think most of it involves creating fake Biden ballots.
4/12 Tech 2/2: Absence of secure audit log (to record every action in the software) is so indefensible that I LOL’d when I read it. This fact alone should be enough to negate the results when there is ANY question about fraud because it cannot be proven that fraud DIDN’T occur …
This is what seems odd. I can't imagine this conversation:
Dirty politician: "Okay, so let's say I buy these dominion machines, and you guarantee me a victory in the next election using your ratio-whatever. What's supposed to keep me out of prison if my opponent gets one of these machines?"
Domion rep: "Well, each machine has to be wiped after the election, by hand. If even one of your minimum wage, booger-eating poll workers fucks up this step, you could go to prison."
Dirty politician: "Shit, son, I'm not taking that chance. You said these damn things can be programmed to do all this complex crap, why don't you program them to wipe out the evidence after the election?"
Dominion rep: "Sorry, sir, although we can design all this technology and coordinate global election fraud using subtle and intricate mathematics, toppling entire regimes and changing the world, no, we cannot figure out how to have the machines erase the ratio."
historically, when ever, has an election been disputed to this degree? why do you think they started flipping their shit so hard? this is the first time in history that a political opponent (not from the swamp) has actually fought back against their fuckery to this degree. trump is bringing new levels of fight to them. never before has an opponent they could not control, been so popular. He's teaching the GOP how to win, and he's inspired the american people to move.
long story short? they thought they were still fighting trump, they aren't. they are fighting the american people now, and no amount of small cabals are enough to stop the sheer amount of everyday americans coming for their asses.
The machines require USB insertion by hand, as stated in the training manuals. They require manual updates. They connect to a server via a router, and the server was caught transmitting packets/data to Germany. They clearly arent that dastardly. Count your blessings that people just like Hillary fall because of their own hubris.
The program to wipe would still be able to be recovered. And if it was even wiped a few times, there would still be partial forensic evidence of what was there. You cant really wipe something that clean of everything without physically being able to touch it. Thus the bleachbit AND hammering of devices a la Clinton.
Dominion employees (not booger-eating poll workers) come around to wipe/destroy machines, but only if theres a real push to even analyze the machines. 22 months they have to keep the election data/ballots. Normally thats not a problem, as no one cared. What prior elections can you think of that had the machines forensically audited? Recount/regular audit, sure. That was usually all part of the normal uni-party game. Now theres actual hackers/experts on the most comprehensive election legal team, probably ever.
They seem to be exactly as dastardly as we wish to imagine them to be at any given moment.
I think they are more dastardly than you, on the grounds that I think even I could design a better cheating system than the one being posited by a lot of people here, and I'm a tech idiot.
Few seem to be noticing, but there are conflicting elements in each of the evidence trails we're working.
Ilhan Omar is buying ballots? Why, if they can just print them?
Ron Codemonkey says local staff can program in a ratio? Why and how, if the ratio is distributed according to a wheel-number based system rotating between precints by server?
Ruby is running ballots through 5 or 6 times each? Why, if Ruby's boss can log in with her USB and have that same machine report a fractional percentage to the server?
This is where we are vulnerable. We have done the data gathering and are way into data analysis. One step remains: data synthesis. It's really hard. It's the step people most often skip over, but its the one which gets the point across in court.
Multiple methods of fraud helps prevent one single method being focused on and exposed. Not all states or counties even used the machines. I think just 27 states had Dominion or Dominion-type machines.
Proof of any one of those methods of fraud is enough to have many votes thrown out. Proof of multiple would be more than concrete enough to support a Trump victory. Proof of all of them is just icing on the cake and more people to throw in prison.
Having fraud be so over the top actually creates more doubt about the fraud overall than if there was one simple method, like only ballots being scanned multiple times, being employed. Like, no way the Dems used every single method of fraud one can imagine, in such large quantities, just to have Biden win a handful swing states each by 0.5-2%, right? That simply wouldnt make sense!
Yes, why employ the USPS in the scheme? Why transport 100s of thousands of filled ballots across state lines? Why shred ballots and destroy pallets of computers used during the election? Why have long dead people vote by mail/absentee? Why take these risks instead of just picking one fraud method and sticking with that alone for 20+ million votes? Are these people stupid? Do you think they are brilliant?
I think Trump turned out so much vote that they needed all of them, and they pushed the AMOUNT of each fraud beyond what they were prepared to keep inconspicuous. Biden was going to lose, cheating was the only hope; and it took so much cheating that it ended up defying credulity.
This. They have unintentionally exposed themselves myriad times by now. It seems like their defense isn’t based on hiding anything, but rather counting on corruption within the system to see them through.
President Trump is not going to let that come to pass. This was, in part, an attack by China. He is well within his rights to go the martial law route, if pushed to it.
The Dimrats are living in a delusional, clown world, but we always have known that.
These are the same type of people who probably think deleting the file and then emptying the Recycle bin makes it safe.
When you delete, all you are doing is deleting markers at the start and end of the file data. Unless you use a proper secure deleting program that overwrites the entire data set multiple times, your data will still be there.
Politicians aren't on win, they watch msm. They don't know their own voters. That's why we need this stuff getting out. The news isn't for us, we don't exist to the media and pols. Be LOUD
Can someone explain what is going on? Is it game over for pedophile-erect Joseph Biden? I have been studying psychology for like 10 hours straight every day this week.
Nice to see someone with whom I agree. I enjoy these tidbits but trump’s plan doesn’t hinge on a judge seeing things his way in a case like this. He’s got the goods.
As an IT professional, there are logs everywhere... even if something is erased, an event of the deletion is logged. Even if you deleted the deleted event log, it logs as something has been deleted, and so on. Now, forensically speaking, if the data is stored on a SATA Hard drive, they’d have to format the data about 7 or 8 times to deleted everything because traces still remain. If it’s SSD, RAM memory, or memory stored on a chip, well, I think you may still pull data from a single wipe.
If you’re the developer, you can alter things without setting flags. In the industry I work in, I can flash firmware onto the hardware I develop with no evidence, but if our technicians, service teams or customers try to do the same thing, I’ll know.
I agree... although if they have multiple machines... let’s say clean, unaltered machines and these fraudulent machines, they could compare ALL the code and notice some differences
Who says the 22 machines weren’t specially selected just for the occasion. We know all the election officials have contracts with Dominion and Dominion personnel are constantly in and out of the election sites. I foresee that the 22 machines given to the Trump team have all been gone over with a fine tooth comb. And there will be no way to prove it since we have not had eyes on the machine the whole time since Nov 3.
And, in my industry, when we give stuff out to the media for review, we go through every unit to make sure they are absolutely perfect. And to ensure production variability doesn’t sink us, we also pick which outlet gets which unit based on how we know it’ll be used.
I think I’m with other commenters on this one. This is all show and games, Trump’s team already has what they need.
I read that these 22 machines all came from Atrim County, MI, where there was a tabulation error and 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. Atrim county is just north of me in Western MI, red, rural. I read that the county clerk is a Dem but she caught the error. I believe she blamed it on the machines but the MI election govt blamed it on her not knowing what she was doing. I believe the actual number of votes switched was around 4500 but somehow they are calling it 6000. Math.
This is because the machines you used are designed to catch fraud. These logging abilities are put there by the people who designed the machines. These voting machines are designed to get away with fraud. It would be delusional to think they are programmed to keep logs of their own cheating.
Hello fellow db member. If you have any time, expand on what you say above. Tell me how they will conduct a "Forensic audit". Nice term, would like to know the details of what it entails. However, if you have other more important duties elsewhere, please ignore me.
Chill bro. Trump has had the proof since Nov. 3rd. No need to hope or pray. Its already in God's hands. We just need to let Trump know we support him doing whatever it takes to bring these people to justice.
4/12 Tech 2/2: Absence of secure audit log (to record every action in the software) is so indefensible that I LOL’d when I read it. This fact alone should be enough to negate the results when there is ANY question about fraud because it cannot be proven that fraud DIDN’T occur …
Serious question: how does a judge who probably knows nothing about computer science rule on computer issues? And for that matter really any technical thing beyond their scope?
They have experts examine and confirm the evidence. Though I wouldn't put it past the deep state to have their own fake expert "debooonk" the evidence. So it becomes tricky at that point.
Is it just me or does anyone else like to check out dominion’s website every day to see what spin they churn? They’ve had this for a few days and it makes me smile everytime. “ ELECTION 2020: DISINFORMATION IS DANGEROUS AND THREATENS DEMOCRACY.”.
I can’t figure out if there is some low level marketing person just posting what they’re told or if they really believe this crap.
This needs to be looked at through the lens of EdwardSolomon’s findings. If you watch his video, you’ll see that only < 2% of districts were involved in algorithmic vote swapping, and of those, 60% of them came from one county.
A big swap that can be potentially written off as human error, even if it wasn’t, might have had no relation to the algorithmic ratio vote swapping Solomon unveiled.
I’m not saying this audit is useless, but it is far less useful than one would be if it was done in a county that was confirmed to have contained districts whose results were manipulated by algorithm. This county might... but statistically speaking the odds are low.
Those machines have already been wiped clean. Hillary and Obama and the three letter agencies gave them the software to wipe any and all evidence. That is the only reason They gave them permission to look. This is becoming a fucking charade. If we the AMERICAN CITIZENS don't start showing up in masses never seen before in front of D.O.J CAPITAL BUILDING AND SUPREME COURT BUILDINGS IN WASHINGTON DC. WE MIGHT AS WELL GET THOSE HURRICANE FANS THEY USE IN HOLLYWOOD MOVIES AND TURN IT ON HIGH AND STARR PISSING INTO IT. Because that's exactly what we are doing pissing into fans. THIS IS UNREAL. the BLMS AND ANTIFAS AND OVER PRIVLAGED IGNORANT LAZY WHITE KIDS DESTROY CITIES AND PEOPLE'S BUSINESSES AND THE MOST HORRIFIC PANDEMIC EVER NEVER SPREADS AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA CALL THESE IGNORANT LAZY MOOCHING PETHETIC SOCIALISTIC LEFTIST RADICAL COMMUNIST ARE PARADED AROUND LIKE HEROES but God
Forbid we go to church and we are super spreaders and scum. WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICAN PATRIOTS.
Question from someone without much technical knowledge of how operating systems work:
Will data and information gathered from these machines be able to be applied to Dominion voting machines and systems at large or will and information found during this investigation only apply to those specific machines?
From what I know about Antrim county (my grandparents have a house up there) it seems like a generally an older population that on the surface would be pro Trump. The idea of “human error” being the cause of the switch doesn’t seem too far fetched in this situation....older poll workers who aren’t as tech savvy along with the fact that doesn’t seem to be a good place to target for shenanigans, as opposed to somewhere like Detroit where there’s a chance of hiding it. So if we are able to look at the machines used there it might very well come back as a human error mistake (and the media will have a fucking field day with that one) but would we still be able to extrapolate information about how the machines and operating coding worked in general that could be applied to other precincts/states that used Dominion machines?
Who choose those 22 ones?
They will find nothing on it because I doubt that they manipulated every machine.
Just a few maybe 10-20% I think.
If they find nothin they will say: see? no fraud at all!
Do we know that machines haven't been wiped yet? Or altered by internal staff or poll workers?
Let’s hope!
This is why we should rely on the statistical evidence (which nobody understands, apparently, so they aren't using it), which PROVES the votes are stolen. Also, GET RID OF ANONYMOUS BALLOTS. Every ballot must be traceable to a voter! If you are too pussy to deal with that, you are too pussy to be voting in our republic!
If you can prove who you voted for, it makes paying for your vote much easier.
There's also the fact unions could pressure their members into proving they voted for the union candidate, etc,
These reasons are why the vote is anonymous in the first place.
What's the worse risk, having elections stolen, or having someone try to force you to prove who you voted for? Also, laws can be passed outlawing unions, employers, or anyone forcing you to prove who you voted for.
Us Trump supporters, especially us, need to understand that the secret ballot is necessary. Once potential employers, IRS employees, college admissions offices, police officers, banks and the FBI can all see how we vote then that creates a huge potential for us getting screwed. P.o
You really think the criminals are going to respect new laws or not use any loophole the new laws open up to their advantage?
You mean like the laws prohibiting rigging an election?
Named voting used to be a thing. People would then intimidate voters as they could check past voting. Mob bosses would pay bums after checking their voting receipt.
ID into the voting booth. Anonymous out.
"People would intimidate voters?" What the fuck are you talking about, and what kind of a scared pussy are you? You would really allow someone to intimidate you as a voter? What else would you allow, someone to intimidate you and then feel up your wife in public?
The weak can always be intimidated for any number of reasons. That's not a reason to not have traceable, auditible ballots. Don't cater to, and structure society around, the weak, the idiots, the cowards, the morons, the corrupt, the inept, the easily intimidated, etc.
One part of the evil genius in their overall plan was chaos.
Chaos ensures that 1) no one can be held accountable because of all the fingure pointing and confusion, and 2) the broken chain of custody tgat helped to cover up the tracks leading back to the leaders of this coup, where, again, there is zero accountabilty.
Anyone who is questioned can point up or down their chain of command -- pleading ignorance of any knowledge or specifics that relates to who, what, when, where, or how.
It may all eventually be worked out, but long after the election is over and lng after Uncle Sniffy (this time) has taken the thrown.
No one will be prosecuted, and all will be counting and running our elections again by 2022.
Fuck commies....
He just said we'd be able to know IF the data has been erased. Not that we'd be able to recover it.
That wouldn't stop someone working in digital forensics from recovering the data from a standard platter hard drive - a military grade wipe of a hard drive involves overwriting the entire drive 30 times with random data. If you only overwrite twice with random 1s and 0s for instance, there's a good chance you can still recover much of the original data. The more times you do it, the harder it gets which is why the military standard is 30.
Oh yeah I know, there are loads of programs that can do a secure wipe. The real question is did the tech who wiped the hard drives know this? If they did then the question would have to be asked 'What were they trying to hide?', if not then the data is recoverable and they're totally boned. Kind of puts them in a tight spot either way if they end up in front of a jury.
Yeah... No. I am an IT pede. There's a reason why shredding hard drives is so important.
But I am very smart.
Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
It can, if you look hard enough. It's like erasing a chalk board, the imprint is still there slightly on the little 1s and 0s.
Last 'firmware' update...
I'm under the suspicion that it is something as simple as an .ini (basically a text file for software configuration) file controlling the weighting of the votes.
So it would be easy to switch back and forth the settings. Hopefully it has not been tampered with since the election.
Even if they delete some data it can still be recovered. I found files I've deleted with a secure delete program, then reinstalled the computer, info was STILL there, that's with free recovery software and being self taught. The forensic guys can find all sorts of stuff. For example, did you know your computer logs the serial number , device, model , access date, time, file name accessed of each device you plug in to the USB? They would have to use magnets to wipe the drives fully but that's like going full Hillary on them.
Never go full Hillary
Like with a cloth?
hahaa that never gets old
No like a fridge magnet ya dummy! (sarcasm)
Presumably it'd be blatantly obvious if they used a magnet to wipe the drives right?
Aren't these dominion machines quite old? I was thinking they'd be using platter drives and not solid state.
Couldn't they just pull the drive and replace it with a clean one? Furthermore I remember hearing that the Dominion software would erase the evidence when put into cheater mode, after the dirty deeds were done.
Just hoping we aren't putting all of our eggs in the dominion fraud basket. There is a ton of statistical evidence suggesting fraud, and I think most of it involves creating fake Biden ballots.
check amazon for any and all magnet purchases.
ROTFLMAO
You laugh now, but i bet money if you looked...
You misunderstand. I wasnt disputing. Your post just made me laugh
I know, i'm just saying, it's funny as all hell, but knowing how this election is going, there is a very real chance that somebody tried it.
Just depends if they didn't replace the original hard drives.
They could write over the hd a dozen times before reinstalling a 'clean' image.
We have to rely on the unsecured system logs to determine that. ClownWorldForever!!
i have read the machines keep no data logs...strange huh...
Can't even audit changes made to the machines or data, because the machines don't keep an audit log!
Slightly different - is there ANY reason to think any incriminating information has been left on the machine?
Yes. These people are incompetent/sloppy, and paid the lowest common denominator to handle their dirtywork.
This is what seems odd. I can't imagine this conversation:
Dirty politician: "Okay, so let's say I buy these dominion machines, and you guarantee me a victory in the next election using your ratio-whatever. What's supposed to keep me out of prison if my opponent gets one of these machines?"
Domion rep: "Well, each machine has to be wiped after the election, by hand. If even one of your minimum wage, booger-eating poll workers fucks up this step, you could go to prison."
Dirty politician: "Shit, son, I'm not taking that chance. You said these damn things can be programmed to do all this complex crap, why don't you program them to wipe out the evidence after the election?"
Dominion rep: "Sorry, sir, although we can design all this technology and coordinate global election fraud using subtle and intricate mathematics, toppling entire regimes and changing the world, no, we cannot figure out how to have the machines erase the ratio."
Sounds like total bullshit to me.
historically, when ever, has an election been disputed to this degree? why do you think they started flipping their shit so hard? this is the first time in history that a political opponent (not from the swamp) has actually fought back against their fuckery to this degree. trump is bringing new levels of fight to them. never before has an opponent they could not control, been so popular. He's teaching the GOP how to win, and he's inspired the american people to move.
long story short? they thought they were still fighting trump, they aren't. they are fighting the american people now, and no amount of small cabals are enough to stop the sheer amount of everyday americans coming for their asses.
They were counting on President Trump to fold. The corrupt system was supposed to demoralize him.
President Trump actually thrives on this kind of thing. They can try to dump on him right and left, all it does is inspire him to greater action.
As you said, now they have the people on their asses. If they were smart, they’d concede now.
The machines require USB insertion by hand, as stated in the training manuals. They require manual updates. They connect to a server via a router, and the server was caught transmitting packets/data to Germany. They clearly arent that dastardly. Count your blessings that people just like Hillary fall because of their own hubris.
The program to wipe would still be able to be recovered. And if it was even wiped a few times, there would still be partial forensic evidence of what was there. You cant really wipe something that clean of everything without physically being able to touch it. Thus the bleachbit AND hammering of devices a la Clinton.
Dominion employees (not booger-eating poll workers) come around to wipe/destroy machines, but only if theres a real push to even analyze the machines. 22 months they have to keep the election data/ballots. Normally thats not a problem, as no one cared. What prior elections can you think of that had the machines forensically audited? Recount/regular audit, sure. That was usually all part of the normal uni-party game. Now theres actual hackers/experts on the most comprehensive election legal team, probably ever.
They seem to be exactly as dastardly as we wish to imagine them to be at any given moment.
I think they are more dastardly than you, on the grounds that I think even I could design a better cheating system than the one being posited by a lot of people here, and I'm a tech idiot.
Few seem to be noticing, but there are conflicting elements in each of the evidence trails we're working.
Ilhan Omar is buying ballots? Why, if they can just print them?
Ron Codemonkey says local staff can program in a ratio? Why and how, if the ratio is distributed according to a wheel-number based system rotating between precints by server?
Ruby is running ballots through 5 or 6 times each? Why, if Ruby's boss can log in with her USB and have that same machine report a fractional percentage to the server?
This is where we are vulnerable. We have done the data gathering and are way into data analysis. One step remains: data synthesis. It's really hard. It's the step people most often skip over, but its the one which gets the point across in court.
Multiple methods of fraud helps prevent one single method being focused on and exposed. Not all states or counties even used the machines. I think just 27 states had Dominion or Dominion-type machines.
Proof of any one of those methods of fraud is enough to have many votes thrown out. Proof of multiple would be more than concrete enough to support a Trump victory. Proof of all of them is just icing on the cake and more people to throw in prison.
Having fraud be so over the top actually creates more doubt about the fraud overall than if there was one simple method, like only ballots being scanned multiple times, being employed. Like, no way the Dems used every single method of fraud one can imagine, in such large quantities, just to have Biden win a handful swing states each by 0.5-2%, right? That simply wouldnt make sense!
Yes, why employ the USPS in the scheme? Why transport 100s of thousands of filled ballots across state lines? Why shred ballots and destroy pallets of computers used during the election? Why have long dead people vote by mail/absentee? Why take these risks instead of just picking one fraud method and sticking with that alone for 20+ million votes? Are these people stupid? Do you think they are brilliant?
This is true for financial crimes, so I think it is also true here. Good post.
I think Trump turned out so much vote that they needed all of them, and they pushed the AMOUNT of each fraud beyond what they were prepared to keep inconspicuous. Biden was going to lose, cheating was the only hope; and it took so much cheating that it ended up defying credulity.
More like this...
Politician: idk... seems risky
** kids girlfriend blows up on the way to the gym**
Politician : deal.
Yep, Eric Coomer is a nuclear physicist. These people are delusional if they think the evidence hasn't been removed already.
This. They have unintentionally exposed themselves myriad times by now. It seems like their defense isn’t based on hiding anything, but rather counting on corruption within the system to see them through.
President Trump is not going to let that come to pass. This was, in part, an attack by China. He is well within his rights to go the martial law route, if pushed to it. The Dimrats are living in a delusional, clown world, but we always have known that.
Hunter’s laptop thinks so. 😂 I know what you mean.
These are the same type of people who probably think deleting the file and then emptying the Recycle bin makes it safe.
When you delete, all you are doing is deleting markers at the start and end of the file data. Unless you use a proper secure deleting program that overwrites the entire data set multiple times, your data will still be there.
All theater. Trump has it all, all will be revealed, In what order we shall see. He won’t be leaving until January 20, 2024.
You and I think alike.
Has had it all.... but couldn't bring that out until they go clearance by law otherwise the evidence would have been obtained illegally.
I hear you and I don’t disagree. Perhaps there exists two world, criminal and military evidence.
Politicians aren't on win, they watch msm. They don't know their own voters. That's why we need this stuff getting out. The news isn't for us, we don't exist to the media and pols. Be LOUD
Can someone explain what is going on? Is it game over for pedophile-erect Joseph Biden? I have been studying psychology for like 10 hours straight every day this week.
Yes, The fraud is so horrific he is slowly spoon feeding it to the masses so it doesn't overwhelm them
Nice to see someone with whom I agree. I enjoy these tidbits but trump’s plan doesn’t hinge on a judge seeing things his way in a case like this. He’s got the goods.
Hope they smart enough to not connect them to WiFi during analysis.......
Full offline scan. You dont need to load the system.
And then when done with the scan, connect to the internet to see what happens
I thought I read some/all of these machines have cell phone modems in them.
As an IT professional, there are logs everywhere... even if something is erased, an event of the deletion is logged. Even if you deleted the deleted event log, it logs as something has been deleted, and so on. Now, forensically speaking, if the data is stored on a SATA Hard drive, they’d have to format the data about 7 or 8 times to deleted everything because traces still remain. If it’s SSD, RAM memory, or memory stored on a chip, well, I think you may still pull data from a single wipe.
In a normal system yes, but these machines were designed to cheat, designed to have no logs, evade audits etc.
Yes I remember reading something about this, I guess we will see what they find on Tuesday.
Exactly... it supports longevity of the physical drive and ensures efficiency as well
If you’re the developer, you can alter things without setting flags. In the industry I work in, I can flash firmware onto the hardware I develop with no evidence, but if our technicians, service teams or customers try to do the same thing, I’ll know.
I agree... although if they have multiple machines... let’s say clean, unaltered machines and these fraudulent machines, they could compare ALL the code and notice some differences
Who says the 22 machines weren’t specially selected just for the occasion. We know all the election officials have contracts with Dominion and Dominion personnel are constantly in and out of the election sites. I foresee that the 22 machines given to the Trump team have all been gone over with a fine tooth comb. And there will be no way to prove it since we have not had eyes on the machine the whole time since Nov 3.
And, in my industry, when we give stuff out to the media for review, we go through every unit to make sure they are absolutely perfect. And to ensure production variability doesn’t sink us, we also pick which outlet gets which unit based on how we know it’ll be used.
I think I’m with other commenters on this one. This is all show and games, Trump’s team already has what they need.
I read that these 22 machines all came from Atrim County, MI, where there was a tabulation error and 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden. Atrim county is just north of me in Western MI, red, rural. I read that the county clerk is a Dem but she caught the error. I believe she blamed it on the machines but the MI election govt blamed it on her not knowing what she was doing. I believe the actual number of votes switched was around 4500 but somehow they are calling it 6000. Math.
This is because the machines you used are designed to catch fraud. These logging abilities are put there by the people who designed the machines. These voting machines are designed to get away with fraud. It would be delusional to think they are programmed to keep logs of their own cheating.
Hello fellow db member. If you have any time, expand on what you say above. Tell me how they will conduct a "Forensic audit". Nice term, would like to know the details of what it entails. However, if you have other more important duties elsewhere, please ignore me.
Dear god, please let these machines be a big find. We've been talking them up for weeks, and we need the payday on them.
They will unless they deleted everything. In Wade County GA https://twitter.com/robbhurstCPA/status/1335557576587665408 they used a machine they found to prove voter manipulation, which they did so.
Even if they tried to delete everything, I think they might be able to show votes were being manipulated.
Chill bro. Trump has had the proof since Nov. 3rd. No need to hope or pray. Its already in God's hands. We just need to let Trump know we support him doing whatever it takes to bring these people to justice.
My question is we’re they already cleaned before hand???
Like with a cloth?
To prevent against covid! Mans concerned about his sense of smell
**Looks for Hillary
If they find evidence of fraud all Dominion employees need to be arrested and interviewed.
Nah. Just break up the company.
To figure out how many pieces, take the total number of employees and multiply by four.
Then round the motherfuckers up, strap them to trucks, and tear them into quarters.
I’m no IT person, but wouldn’t the logs show that, and therefore confirm the fraud??
Can't even audit changes made to the machines or data, because the machines don't keep an audit log!
BOOM BADA BOOM!
Serious question: how does a judge who probably knows nothing about computer science rule on computer issues? And for that matter really any technical thing beyond their scope?
They have experts examine and confirm the evidence. Though I wouldn't put it past the deep state to have their own fake expert "debooonk" the evidence. So it becomes tricky at that point.
They had weeks to find out which voting machines they can present to us
Is it just me or does anyone else like to check out dominion’s website every day to see what spin they churn? They’ve had this for a few days and it makes me smile everytime. “ ELECTION 2020: DISINFORMATION IS DANGEROUS AND THREATENS DEMOCRACY.”.
I can’t figure out if there is some low level marketing person just posting what they’re told or if they really believe this crap.
They are circling the drain.
If you’re visiting everyday, make sure you upload an archive
This needs to be looked at through the lens of EdwardSolomon’s findings. If you watch his video, you’ll see that only < 2% of districts were involved in algorithmic vote swapping, and of those, 60% of them came from one county.
A big swap that can be potentially written off as human error, even if it wasn’t, might have had no relation to the algorithmic ratio vote swapping Solomon unveiled.
I’m not saying this audit is useless, but it is far less useful than one would be if it was done in a county that was confirmed to have contained districts whose results were manipulated by algorithm. This county might... but statistically speaking the odds are low.
Why is this not stickied? Seems like big news.
If any machine was WIPED, that will be destruction of evidence. That will render the election in Michigan void. So, they better NOT be wiped!
Check out codemonkeyz tweets about this. Do we know who is inspecting them and how qualified they are to inspect what is needed?
Flynn and his team, form what I know.
Hallelujah.
On a side note trump team already shows that the one machine they got in GA flipped votes. Time for 22 more machines
THIS IS WINING!
Read on Steve Gruber Twitter there were patriots surrounding courthouse.
I didnt see one so
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What's up with the Sunday voting machine stuff? Last week GA judge stuff.
Praying these machines weren't wiped or tampered with and they find more smoking guns..
A month later.. they will be DoD Wiped by now.
Why 22? Why not all?
Good question ... only thing I can speculate is they are targeting specific precincts
And the Domino's fall faster and faster
Those machines have already been wiped clean. Hillary and Obama and the three letter agencies gave them the software to wipe any and all evidence. That is the only reason They gave them permission to look. This is becoming a fucking charade. If we the AMERICAN CITIZENS don't start showing up in masses never seen before in front of D.O.J CAPITAL BUILDING AND SUPREME COURT BUILDINGS IN WASHINGTON DC. WE MIGHT AS WELL GET THOSE HURRICANE FANS THEY USE IN HOLLYWOOD MOVIES AND TURN IT ON HIGH AND STARR PISSING INTO IT. Because that's exactly what we are doing pissing into fans. THIS IS UNREAL. the BLMS AND ANTIFAS AND OVER PRIVLAGED IGNORANT LAZY WHITE KIDS DESTROY CITIES AND PEOPLE'S BUSINESSES AND THE MOST HORRIFIC PANDEMIC EVER NEVER SPREADS AND THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND SOCIAL MEDIA CALL THESE IGNORANT LAZY MOOCHING PETHETIC SOCIALISTIC LEFTIST RADICAL COMMUNIST ARE PARADED AROUND LIKE HEROES but God Forbid we go to church and we are super spreaders and scum. WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICAN PATRIOTS.
It would be nice to know if these came from precincts that have been shown to have the algorithm running.
Will the voting machines be 22 cherry picked ones? This is what concerns me.
I would be disappointed if a forensic audit required only one day.
They should be able to get everything off the server(s) in a day .... mining that data may take a while
If these are the ones that were already “fixed” I don’t know how good this will be.
Question from someone without much technical knowledge of how operating systems work:
Will data and information gathered from these machines be able to be applied to Dominion voting machines and systems at large or will and information found during this investigation only apply to those specific machines?
From what I know about Antrim county (my grandparents have a house up there) it seems like a generally an older population that on the surface would be pro Trump. The idea of “human error” being the cause of the switch doesn’t seem too far fetched in this situation....older poll workers who aren’t as tech savvy along with the fact that doesn’t seem to be a good place to target for shenanigans, as opposed to somewhere like Detroit where there’s a chance of hiding it. So if we are able to look at the machines used there it might very well come back as a human error mistake (and the media will have a fucking field day with that one) but would we still be able to extrapolate information about how the machines and operating coding worked in general that could be applied to other precincts/states that used Dominion machines?
Who choose those 22 ones? They will find nothing on it because I doubt that they manipulated every machine. Just a few maybe 10-20% I think. If they find nothin they will say: see? no fraud at all!
If they were updated the audit will reveal that.
"Oh no, an unfortunate glitch deleted all the data. Therefore investigations have concluded there is no evidence of voter fraud"