the 48 hour wait is going to be the longest 48 hours this week. I hope they announce results of their findings immediately so we can celebrate this victory in over coming the obstacles leading to Trumps legal win. I can't wait till we can rub it in the democrats and liberals faces with even more evidence this election was stolen from our President
Gonna doom for a second here, but what good is that? We have obvious fraud everywhere already and the media hushes is, the rinos ignore it and the democrats mock it.
Agreed but physical proof with these machines will be big for public perception. When Trump begins rounding up traitors the base case scenario is for a majority of America to be willing to accept it as true justice like it is.
We will have rioting and unrest either way. 100%. But the better the overall perception the better the outcome.
I would much prefer to have the fake votes removed, keep those states as win and get those 270+ electors. Otherwise it'll be decided in the house and I just don't trust that there's not enough nevertrumpers out there to sell us out or that Nancy won't be able to buy a few cucked rinos and screw us at the last second without any other legal recourse left.
This type of doomer talk is spread by the other team to discourage us. And it's simply not true. You can't just "wipe" a computer. First off, hard drives retain data even if it's deleted. You have to do a full scrub and fill with random data, and even then you can't touch the S.M.A.R.T data. Or if it's a new-style SSD, there is no reliable way to wipe them yet. Second, if all the computers were networked, it's child's play to access the router logs and see where they connected, how much data was sent, and where. You can reconstruct the data sent and received with a little cooperation from the ISP. If they don't cooperate, you get a subpoena or go to the NSA. Every packet sent into or out of the USA goes through them. If these poll workers are dumb enough to stuff ballots on camera, there is no way they know how to run a DOD level-three cleaning on hard drives.
This is correct. Today hard drives must be physically destroyed to be unreadable......Unless you're a Clinton, in which case you only need a cloth and complicit press corp.
I did not accuse you of being on the other team. I said you are uninformed and are repeating their falsehoods which they are spreading to discourage us. Not everyone is an IT expert, so listen to those pedes who are.
I agree. The second I read the headline here I thought “I’m sure it was granted because the machines have already been scrubbed.”
If we had the ability to match up votes with eligible voters, that would be the main thing we need. That would be how you sort everything out. That should seemingly be a requirement of every single election because that’s what the results are supposed to reflect.
Have you seen the actions republicans are suddenly taking. The walls are falling down around the Democrats and even the RINOs are seeing the blood in the water. It's all going to happen very quickly over the next 48 hours, Have lots of popcorn ready and I suggest a snow shovel for the salt avalanche.
GA Republicans ordered a special session and called on the governor and secretary of state to answer. The GA senators are now actively pushing also. Its on now.
This imo will be percieved as the most obvious and malicious form of fraud. When people find out these dominion voting machines were designed and programmed to flip votes from Trump to Biden, then we find they are predominantly used in swing states, well that says it all.
do you honestly under-estimate our enemies enough to assume that they wouldn't have had a protocol in place to wipe all of the machines with some update that takes out any of the malicious code? they've had whole month to do it. hell, if the machines were really online the entire time, as trump team's witnesses have testified to, they could've flashed them from another country, the night of the election, right after the last votes were put into them. they'd be the biggest moron criminals who managed to pull of the ultimate heist in history. which is just completely contradictory. the first thought in your mind if you were them would be 'ok but how do we cover up the evidence? oh right, our machines are always online. easy.'
Exactly. Most people don’t get that not all files delete entirely from your system for many reasons.
Is it tied to the OS? Even on a jailbroken android phone files I have deleted permanently can be recovered because for one instance that file was ran as a system operation.
If you have a traditional disk system it’s there and fragments of your mass deletion will be there.
It doesn't even have to touch the hard drive, though. It would be easy to design the machines so that they can be accessed remotely and a new program is loaded into memory. Then all they have to do is reboot it to get rid of it. Evidence all gone without a trace. And if I can think of that, so can they.
I'm not an expert on computer forensics, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Just hitting delete and emptying the recycle bin isn't going to prevent forensics from recovering data, but overwriting the data will.
Most likely these machines are using SSDs rather than HDDs. Data is physically written to HDDs so there are probably better odds at recovering the data if it hasn't been physically destroyed.
Hillary used bleachbit to wipe her servers, which I'm sure that alone would prevent data from being recovered, but physically destroying the drive ensured nothing could ever be recovered.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think the chances are slim they find anything during a forensic audit. The fact that dominion makes the hardware and software means they have full control over everything.
If the devices are connected to the internet then any evidence will be gone. We'll be able to prove the devices were accessible over the internet which proves the machines weren't secure, but won't give us evidence that votes were manipulated unless network data was captured like the Colonel was saying.
If they aren't connected to the Internet then I can almost guarantee the machines will be clean and the manipulation was done by the USB flash drives. I think this is the most likely scenario since eyes were on the machines and not the USB drives. If they are ever required to hand over those USB drives you know it won't be the ones they used on election night.
If the machines did have code to manipulate votes then it could be possible the ballot images were exported, the drive on the machine was wiped and then a clean version of the software was reinstalled and ballot images were imported.
There's a thousand ways they could have manipulated the vote and they've had 20 some years to figure out the best way to cover their tracks. We have no idea how physically secure these machines have been since the election and we're only getting to look at one piece of the puzzle.
that's true to a degree but it's also bullshit at that same time. think about this, if you have a hard drive with say 1gb of space. say you fill it up. then you delete everything and fill it up with an entirely different amount of stuff, a different batch of 1gb worth of files. are you going to tell me that the original 1gb is still there? because if it were do you know what that'd be? magic. if that first gb is still fully recoverable, that would mean that the hard drive can actually store at LEAST 2 gb. but what if you keep deleting and refilling with new material? how many gb worth of stuff can that 1gb drive actually contain? infinite? wouldn't someone have figured out a way to tap into this infinite storage capacity that all drives supposedly have?
so they can recover stuff after you delete it, yeah. but not if you kept overwriting those sectors of the drive. and there is software that specifically does just that to permanently destroy any data from a drive. like a digital paper shredder, just overwriting sectors over and over. but i'm sure these criminals who stole an election wouldn't have thought of that, would they?
If you watch the military guy who testified in both Michigan and Georgia, i believe he said that even if the machines are wiped, there still is a way to recover data. Also, there’s a good chance they already hacked the machines election night and have all the data. Having a court order to be able to look at the machine gives them valid reason now to have this data and enter it legally into the fight.
Also yes. States are supposed to keep the evidence for 22 months. This is a damned if they do, damned if they don’t that Trump likes to maneuver people into. But as we learned from our good friend Hillary, only actual physical destruction renders information unreadable. So either way they are screwed.
they couldn't enter hacked data into the legal thing under the pretense that it came from the audit. they could get caught doing that and be in trouble themselves. and it would be rightly thrown out because who would know where they actually got that 'hacked' software? they could have made it themselves and just planted it. that's what i'd accuse them of if i were a democrat lawyer. things don't just work that way.
and yeah everyone knows they can recover some data in some cases but that is hyped. they can't always recover everything. if they could, storage drives would actually have infinite capacity. because that'd mean that no matter how many times you overwrite something on a storage drive, the original stuff is always still there. that'd be infinite capacity. if you overwrite something too many times they can't recover it. and i'm sure the crooks know this basic fact.
no it's not a win for us. i didn't mean 'wipe' as in completely delete everything from the system. i meant wipe as in, they probably have a 'clean' version of the software, that isn't set up to steal votes. then before the election they upload a version that DOES, and then it does it's thing. then after the election they could probably easily just revert the machines back to the clean software that doesn't have anything like that in its algorithm.
there probably wouldn't be any way to catch that. maybe a server kept some log that something happened at some point in time, something was changed, but that wouldn't go anywhere in court. we need the smoking gun, the 'malicious' software itself, and if they could simply update the machines to remove that and replace it with clean software, we don't have that. and they could've easily done that because according to trump's own team those machines were always online.
and even if the machines were completely blank, that wouldn't get us anywhere in court. haven't you been paying attention? we've already seen a video proving they lied to send people home over a fake water leak and kept counting, and what did THAT get us? we already have the fact that they were "supposed" to let republicans watch them count but in PA they counted, supposedly, 700k votes without doing that. what did that get us? we need the kind of evidence that's really hard to ignore. the actual bad cheaty software would be it, but we won't get that. i'm sure they've cleaned every last machine of it.
If all the machines were wiped, why are some states ordering them erased just now. Fulton county GA just tried to wipe them last week. I wouldn't be so sure everything has been erased.
that's just a formality and/or for show. again, i didn't mean wiped as in erased. i meant wiped as in the 'bad stuff' has been removed. if they had any 'algorithm' or software that was set up to give trump votes to biden, that has been taken off.
This would seem obvious but then why is the Trump team pushing so hard for it? I don't think they would if they weren't sure they'd come up with something. Otherwise coming up with zilch becomes a massive blue pill.
probably they're just going to compile a number of ways the machines can be hacked or interfaced with to show that they're 'insecure', but that's not going to get us anywhere.
And, since we're talking 9/11 style, Dominion flipping looks like one of those bipartisan inside jobs... hopefully this analysis will give us a building 7 of data.
The algorithm stuff only matters if this was happening on the client side and not the server side. If the machines themselves were doing the flipping, then we got them. If they were being sent to a server, maybe in Frankfurt Germany, then the algorithm would be living on that server. I'm sure they know what they're doing and they can probably detect traffic in and out of the machine, which would also be highly problematic. Grab some popcorn.
This is my biggest worry. Seems like there was enough time to update the
machines software during last 4 weeks. My hope is that they somehow missed some machines and Trump team have their hands on them.
how would they have missed any though? trump's own team has had witnesses claiming the machines were always online. it's been one of the key points of trump's team's arguments. if they're always online they basically just push a button and bing bang boom all online machines are reverted to 'clean'.
Let's hope some machines were turned off by the workers in some remote rural areas thinking it's all over or turned off wifi after elections. We dont need many. Just one or two machines with original weight switching algorithm will do.
what if the machines cant be completely turned off? what if there's something where as long as they're plugged in, they can be told to turn themselves back on for a remote update?
I can't imagine they wouldn't have checked for surveillance cameras in the voting areas, yet we have them on said surveillance cameras.
This isn't just about fraud. Remember, they've been painting Trump as a super dictator Nazi bad guy for the last 4-5 years. They know most people don't actually understand how the Presidential election works.
They want to make it LOOK like a legit election. The fraud evidence is pretty blatant, but MSM keeps saying "no evidence of widespread fraud". The thing is that we aren't really looking for "widespread fraud". We're primarily looking for fraud in 4 states, with lesser efforts going on in a few others. However, most people are going to take the MSM misrepresentation over the actual situation.
Take the video of them bringing coolers and hard cases into these voting centers late at night. They tried to claim it was "camera equipment" or other such things. Now any rational person would ask "Well if it actually was camera equipment, why would you wait until late at night to bring it?"
A lot of "regular people" are expecting individuals to be charged with voter fraud, and that's been the angle used by the Dems and MSM against efforts to combat voter fraud. They claim that, since relatively few people have been charged and convicted of voter fraud, it must not happen all that often. What they don't want "regular people" to find out is that you don't need convictions of fraud in order to point out instances of fraud and then contest an election based on those instances.
So they keep pitching this story of "no widespread evidence" so "regular people" will think that the election was legitimate in an effort to convince people that Trump's second term is illegitimate. It's a slightly different take on the same shit they tried with Russiagate. During Trump's first term, they claimed that he was not the President because he cheated with the help of foreign nations. During Trump's second term, they'll claim that he's not the President because he used the Supreme Court of the United States and/or state legislatures to circumvent the election.
Waldron is the key here. His team knew what they were looking at in August, possibly earlier. They know what to look for. They were watching it happen in real time. Waldron knows WAY more about what's going on with these machines than Flynn - not to discount Flynn at all, but Waldron blew the doors on the Dominion machines wide open. Waldron could and maybe will spend years testifying against these machines and how they work.
Waldron spent the bulk of his career doing cyber security for the military. Dude and the dudes he works with know their shit. Most of us probably can't even conceive of what they can do.
The presence and subsequent deletion of data still leaves an imprint on the storage medium. There are ways to reconstruct data from these imprints but generally takes some costly software
Depending on the mechanism for wiping and the device being wiped, it may be difficult or impossible to fully reconstruct "wiped" data. Flash vs magnetic storage matters too, as does the particular type of drive controller (e.g., in an SSD). Emphasis on "fully reconstruct," though - even freeware tools can usually recover some partial fragments, which hopefully would still prove damning.
Col Waldron, 100% Trump guy, has been presenting in all of the state legislature hearings. Ex military chopper pilot, then went into information warfare for the military, and after retiring has been working/running for a private investigative company/team, using white hat hackers and ex-military to investigate information warfare techniques. They started looking into Dominion last summer, and used white hat hackers to break into Dominion servers, and watched them real time stealing votes, and monitored the packets going to Frankfurt.
According to many sources, he was part of the 305th military intelligence battalion, which was nicknamed "The Kraken".
Watch the PA hearings, he lays most of it out there, and follows up with more in his AZ appearance.
Yes there must be source code pulled from somewhere that can be compared to see what they changed, and likely when. If they did it election night since they are internet connected the create date on the files should be the last day of counting. They are only acting like they care if we inspect the machines. As stupid as the deep state is they are smart enough to know trump would eventually get his hands on them. But trump would know they know this and 5D their loser asses.
I've heard multiple mentions over the last month that December 9th will be a significant date. Never really any context around it either, which I thought was interesting. This could possibly be what it's all about. We will see.
What is the result that we’re even looking for: just to find fraud to take it to the Supreme Court? Change the actual votes/rule out fraudulent votes to change what the reported results were, showing Trump won without compromised machine votes?
Sure, it isn't that simple and there is a lot more to a digital forensic investigation than just that. But that is something that is definitely going to happen.
One can cover their tracks if they are extremely knowledgeable about the inner-workings of a system and how each action taken will affect the system. But interacting with a system in any meaningful way (and sometimes even in non-meaningful ways) can result in a lot of unforeseen changes to a system which can result in very compelling forensic evidence.
Purple_nitrile, while being very brief, isn't wrong. They will use the file system metadata to construct a timeline which will be heavily scrutinized. Even one file showing anomalous created/modified/access times can reveal quite a bit and/or prove that the system was tampered with.
I doubt they have access to version history. They may be able to show when the last update came in.
Every update has to be certified by the state so if they did update right before or during the process of counting theyd still have to throw out all the ballots.
Also, they can inspect the saved ballot images and see if they match up to the physical ballots.
Elsenheimer’s order said that Antrim County needs to “maintain, preserve and protect all records in its possession used to tabulate votes in Antrim County, to not turn on the Dominion tabulator in its possession and to not connect the Dominion tabulator in its possession to the internet,” as reported by the Detroit News.
This is all well and good. I hope it yields results, but is there anyone in here who doesn't believe these machines have already been wiped? Initially there were reports that these machines could be set to not keep log files. The log files can be edited. These machines at one time were connected to the internet, and there have been four weeks to work on and wipe them over this said internet connection. There's no way they're going to find anything. These people are evil but not stupid. Eric Coomer, the Dominion Antifa cuck whose on record saying "Trump won't win, I've made sure of that." is a nuclear physicist I believe. This is highly likely to be a democrat trick, so the team has to come out and say they didn't have anything off these machines. We might as well get ready for that.
They'll be able to say, "The vulnerabilities we described and capabilities described in the operators' manual exist. It could have done this. The log files are set to not keep and appear to have been modified." In a sane world this would be it. It'd invalidate the election. However, for four months we've lived in an unbelievably insane and corrupt seemingly fake world, so if things play out like I've described, the "there's no proof" narrative will be fueled and ramped up. Cover will be ran for Dominion. This will be used as an example of how awesome these machines are.
Have faith Schroeder09, as important as this audit is, it will not make or break our case, there are still plenty of variables at play. Hold strong. Anything can happen between now and the 20th.
You are exactly right. There is a LOT that can happen and a lot that WILL happen between now and the 20th.
these fucks are not helping or hindering us - if they cooperate they are saving themselves, and if they fail to cooperate they are signing their own death warrants.
homey don't play dat shit.
firing squads have come back into fashion for a reason.
I understand your anger brother but we must try to quell our frustrations, it will not serve us as much as a temperate mind will. There are very big decisions to be made in our future as you imply.
The reset of the machines likely doesn't do any kind of intense "wipe" of the data. It just deletes files. When files are deleted they are not overwritten immediately, they just have the entry in an index pointing to the file removed. So an image of the entire storage device would still have the deleted data and you can run some tools to undelete it.
If the machines use hard disks, it's possible to read old data on the disk even if it's been written over. That would require more than 8 hours though.
Recoverability depends on the wiping mechanism. If the traitors are smart, they'll have used one of a variety of wiping algorithms that make multiple passes over the storage device to overwrite it with all zeros, all ones, and/or random bits in such a way that the original data become pretty much unrecoverable.
yes I heard this, but there are different methods of wiping and how permanent each is. I'm not a programmer, so I'm not going to pretend to know exactly how it works. I think there ARE ways to permanently wipe these though. They've had 4 weeks to do it over the internet connection and even in person in the dead of night.
Don't get me wrong. I'm hoping and praying for the best. I'm just not holding my breath. These people are destroying evidence left and right. They're never held accountable for it. Why would the evidence here not have been destroyed? This in fact already happened earlier this week in GA. When the dominion server "crashed" it was "accidentally" wiped in the process of trying to "fix" it. The people who did this should hang, but instead they walked away unscathed.
There’s so much conflicting information it’s really hard to know what’s true. I’ve just decided to put my faith and trust in people like Waldron. I have no way to dispute what he says.
If its flash-based then the wear levelling used makes it extremely difficult to truly "delete" a file, since there'll likely be earlier versions of the file scattered throughout the flash.
It depends on internals - most of the docs and manuals I've seen screenshots and pdfs of have referenced 'underlying Android os.'
If that's true of the machine, and not just tablet apps they were using to manage, then it should be Java code, which could either be compiled to byte-code (pre-compiled "close" to the os) or could be run through a native compiler, since they should all have similar/same os. Native would get a bit lower level.
If os isn't android, java is still "likely," but could be anything (within reason)
If it's a compiled language (probably, given performance wanted for ocr and image processing), the code would still be decompilable. Not as easy to read, but you can still see what's going on.
If it's runtime interpreted (and not obfuscated) it's just code and easy to read. If it's obfuscated, it's easier to follow than decompiler source, but pretty much the same.
If it is secured and signed, it may not be decompilable (easily) but once something is loaded into memory, you can get at it and reverse out what's going on.
In any case, anything that does "something" with input does have some form of code on it. It's all about how you want to get at it and if you define that as "code"
As a cyber security guy it wont matter if they deleted shit. We can look at logs , timestamps and know that shit was wiped without a doubt. If they wiped data that just gives even more ammunition to imprison and impound more boxes. These are riggers we are talking about not high speed hackers. I bet dominions IT guys are sloppy as fuck with the kind of funding they have.
Depending on how good their team is they can even look at deleted portions of memory if they need to. If Sidney is right they will be able to confirm the vote flipping. I'm interested in seeing connection events , how they implemented the voting network and hopefully seeing some configs that show shit that goes out to the internet. If it does its gg lol.
If it leads to a foreign country wed have to be careful on retaliation. Lots of orgs use foreign web servers to hide their location even a script kiddie would do it.
If it is a foreign web provider that has ties to our voting systems the US will reign in their influence to demand the company give up their client using it. I doubt the company would comply though. The corruption for the globalists run deep.
Now if theyre so fucking sloppy that it ties back to dominion directly lmfao that would be pitiful.
Yes . I hope they put this shit on a public forum so we can mess with it. I know of a lot of autists who write their own malware and would love to reverse this shit.
Biden was given the win initially, but it was then discovered that he had received 6000 votes that were part of a "glitch." The county figured it out, hand counted the ballots and returned the voted to Trump. So yes, Trump ended up getting the county, but the question is how many other counties had this happen and what was the "glitch."
The way the Dominion algorithm works is that it's siphoning votes from red districts to Biden. So counties where POTUS won are exactly where you would want to look.
that's the point. trum team pulled a fast one on em. look at it this way pede, the counties that are hotly contested are going to have the strongest resistance, but in antrim county, trump won, despite dominion use. if there was any county official that thought they were safe from an exam (and thus failed to wipe tha machine data on time), it would be the one that gave trump the win.
But thes are still dominion machines, there is still that programming error (feature), and we have heard tell that there is info on the internet traffic on the night of the election. If antrim county has these errors, then it opens the door for all other areas to be audited, and on top of that? If switched votes are found in this county, it will still be deducted from biden, and added to trump. anything higher than a 3% gain in this county may well hand the whole state right back to trump. this is a gain regardless, so long as the machines have even a modicum of fishy business going on.
That's really clever thinking, swooping in on the machines in a winning county since they seem to be convinced that all he cares about is winning and maybe they would have focused their coverup efforts on the losing counties.
I’m starting to foresee the day when all of this mess gets cleared up. The new way for evil to try and win the election will be to frame our candidate and cry gotcha. They will try and use their own stupidity and reverse it on us. Catch my drift? Hopefully we will be better prepared if we get another chance.
According to Waldron, they can get fraud information from any machine. Since they are all connected to the same network, he can find the fraud algorithm that affected all machines
Just f'ing subscribe to the Epoch Times, and actually subscribe to them, too while you're at it.
These patriots are among the few big newspapers that have covered everything from Crossfire Hurricane to the Rigged Election in a fair way. They deserve our money, but if not that, then at least let them have your email.
Archive links should be reserved for the New York Slimes and Washington Compost.
The software itself is fraudulent by design, they have already the manuals on how to do certain things, let's say you have a manual showing you how to open the windows explorer on windows then you go into the machine and try to do what it says then you'll open the explorer, if you want that windows to do something different then you have to build very different windows and clean and patch all references to the explorer in a very large amount of code and install it in all the machines, if 1 works different that the others it would be suspicious and will only incriminate them more. The traitors in those places could have completely clean the logs and everything you want, but Rudy's team don't really need that, it would be great to have it but they just need to take all the machines they can and if in one of them using it according to the manual and use the function to change votes and it works it's game over.
it took a while and i was wondering why the downvotes, then realized i had mistakenly posted an answer/comment to the wrong thread. hence the deletion.
Rudy's team will most likely have Col. Waldron and his people in there with him. If anyone can find the evidence, they can - they already hacked into machines in other states.
Think? the Col testified in the PA and GA hearings that they were laying in wait, they were researching these machines all the way back in August, if not earlier.
I think the angle some of the doomers in the comments are missing is the fact that Dominion & the leftists can "wipe" the voting machines all they want, but there are some things you can't wipe completely away. I believe even the act of them "wiping the machines" could be seen from a forensic footprint.
I'm calling it right now: they'll find evidence of fraud, then the media will come up with some BS explanation of how it's not actually fraud and it's "supposed" to do that. Literally nothing will convince them. Biden could literally go on TV and concede and admit he cheated and they'd say he was forced into saying it
i swear to god bro. there better be something meaningful out of this forensic examination. unless any chain of custody was not maintained.....idk man. but i really hope they find something...
Even if they wiped the machines, forensics team can still retrieve all that information. Unless Bleachbit was used, which would be just as incriminating as leaving the evidence there.
They only get to look at these things for 8 hours? That's not a ton of time to gather what needs to be gathered about these machines. Especially since they're not getting source code.
I hope one of these guys just images the OS and dumps it online or tries to decompile. Fuck Dominion and fuck their IP at this point.
Put that shit on Github and let us do what needs to be done.
This is what the riggers did not want to happen we all know that. Once they do the analysis they will see the the algorithm giving votes less for trump same as what is happening in georgia.
The machines are a good start but there are several levels above the machines in that system where chenanigans could be introduced. I'll bet my left nut, its a commie anyway, that multiple groups were at play and each had their own vector of attack. Only way to know is to check it all from origination of the vote to its final tally resting place.
The stupidly optimistic feeling you get when you know that these machines have been sitting there unsupervised for over a month and that if they wanted to come in and wipe them it would have been incredibly easy to do. But you still hope they find something.
Hopefully they will be able to tell if the machines were tampered with as far as hiding evidence or wiping the system either part of it or the whole thing. The sheer amount of time to get this order left plenty of time for anyone to tamper with them beyond the point, after the election.
Funny, Trump team can do an investigation and have the results in 48 hrs. It's been 2 years, millions of dollars, hundreds of attorneys and Durham still has not finished his investigation.
Or were intentionally "available" as to confuse?
They should still look at them, but this should not take any effort from the other directions. I believe that machines that were tempered with are already wiped/destroyed.
My understanding is that even if the programs or data used were wiped there will be remnants of it forever found on the computer's memory. There will be something that comes of this, no doubt.
If they are smart:
They won't be looking at code-changes-etc...
THEY SHOULD be looking at the underlying security-access controls BECAUSE IF PROPER SECURITY CONTROLS ARE NOT IN PLACE, THEN AN "AUDIT" IS IMPOSSIBLE.
and if you can't audit the vote, then BYE BYE VOTE.
Clear and undeniable fraud must be found or this entire thing will continue to be buried by the Chicom Media.
The Georgia video should have been more than enough yet the media quickly looked away, shouted "debunked!" and the story failed to catch on as big as it needs to for the steal to be stopped.
For now the Chicoms continue to march on with the takeover of America.
Given the evidence so far of hostile nation state involvement with this company (Dominion et al) I would not be surprised if there are built in anti forensics. Things like being able to manipulate file headers and change file times to hide “updates” and changes to files or things like overwriting memory to securely remove audit logs. I would also not doubt there are embedded hardware with it’s own WiFi or Bluetooth to overcome airgap controls. Just my hunch but that is what I would be looking for if I were investigating. I know the President will bring in a good team. Let’s hope they find the goods.
the 48 hour wait is going to be the longest 48 hours this week. I hope they announce results of their findings immediately so we can celebrate this victory in over coming the obstacles leading to Trumps legal win. I can't wait till we can rub it in the democrats and liberals faces with even more evidence this election was stolen from our President
I really hope they find obvious signs of fraud.
Gonna doom for a second here, but what good is that? We have obvious fraud everywhere already and the media hushes is, the rinos ignore it and the democrats mock it.
Agreed but physical proof with these machines will be big for public perception. When Trump begins rounding up traitors the base case scenario is for a majority of America to be willing to accept it as true justice like it is.
We will have rioting and unrest either way. 100%. But the better the overall perception the better the outcome.
And it only needs to be proven in one state, one set of machines to throw out all elections that used the same machines.
We only need t9 throw out enough states to where no candidate can reach 270
I would much prefer to have the fake votes removed, keep those states as win and get those 270+ electors. Otherwise it'll be decided in the house and I just don't trust that there's not enough nevertrumpers out there to sell us out or that Nancy won't be able to buy a few cucked rinos and screw us at the last second without any other legal recourse left.
Gets kicked to legislatures and rep own the majority so Trump wins
No then state houses pick president and then local races get a rerun
If Trump can show the machines were tampered with he can declare martial law without any problem.
We got that proof in ga
This type of doomer talk is spread by the other team to discourage us. And it's simply not true. You can't just "wipe" a computer. First off, hard drives retain data even if it's deleted. You have to do a full scrub and fill with random data, and even then you can't touch the S.M.A.R.T data. Or if it's a new-style SSD, there is no reliable way to wipe them yet. Second, if all the computers were networked, it's child's play to access the router logs and see where they connected, how much data was sent, and where. You can reconstruct the data sent and received with a little cooperation from the ISP. If they don't cooperate, you get a subpoena or go to the NSA. Every packet sent into or out of the USA goes through them. If these poll workers are dumb enough to stuff ballots on camera, there is no way they know how to run a DOD level-three cleaning on hard drives.
This is correct. Today hard drives must be physically destroyed to be unreadable......Unless you're a Clinton, in which case you only need a cloth and complicit press corp.
A secure erase of SSD will not erase anything. I hope you're not saving anything you'll want to get rid of in a hurry.
I did not accuse you of being on the other team. I said you are uninformed and are repeating their falsehoods which they are spreading to discourage us. Not everyone is an IT expert, so listen to those pedes who are.
I agree. The second I read the headline here I thought “I’m sure it was granted because the machines have already been scrubbed.”
If we had the ability to match up votes with eligible voters, that would be the main thing we need. That would be how you sort everything out. That should seemingly be a requirement of every single election because that’s what the results are supposed to reflect.
I dont know enough about shit to disagree but I assume they tried to scrub the best they thought they could
What is needed is some one of a kind Pinochet Helicopter Tours 😂
Hey, as long as they let them choose which coast to tour, and then head like a half mile out to sea, all good =)
Have you seen the actions republicans are suddenly taking. The walls are falling down around the Democrats and even the RINOs are seeing the blood in the water. It's all going to happen very quickly over the next 48 hours, Have lots of popcorn ready and I suggest a snow shovel for the salt avalanche.
Can you comment about which actions you're talking about?
GA Republicans ordered a special session and called on the governor and secretary of state to answer. The GA senators are now actively pushing also. Its on now.
Being allowed to even do the audit in MI, the special session in PA. As just two blatant examples. Alito moving the court date up for PA as well.
This imo will be percieved as the most obvious and malicious form of fraud. When people find out these dominion voting machines were designed and programmed to flip votes from Trump to Biden, then we find they are predominantly used in swing states, well that says it all.
I wasn't used in NC. We got to stay red. Funny coincidence
do you honestly under-estimate our enemies enough to assume that they wouldn't have had a protocol in place to wipe all of the machines with some update that takes out any of the malicious code? they've had whole month to do it. hell, if the machines were really online the entire time, as trump team's witnesses have testified to, they could've flashed them from another country, the night of the election, right after the last votes were put into them. they'd be the biggest moron criminals who managed to pull of the ultimate heist in history. which is just completely contradictory. the first thought in your mind if you were them would be 'ok but how do we cover up the evidence? oh right, our machines are always online. easy.'
Doesn't really work like that. Forensics can look at bits that you cannot 'wipe'.
Just hitting delete and emptying the recycle bin doesn't hide shit.
It's why Hillary's people had all their electronic devices smashed to bits.
Exactly. Most people don’t get that not all files delete entirely from your system for many reasons.
Is it tied to the OS? Even on a jailbroken android phone files I have deleted permanently can be recovered because for one instance that file was ran as a system operation.
If you have a traditional disk system it’s there and fragments of your mass deletion will be there.
It doesn't even have to touch the hard drive, though. It would be easy to design the machines so that they can be accessed remotely and a new program is loaded into memory. Then all they have to do is reboot it to get rid of it. Evidence all gone without a trace. And if I can think of that, so can they.
I'm not an expert on computer forensics, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Just hitting delete and emptying the recycle bin isn't going to prevent forensics from recovering data, but overwriting the data will.
Most likely these machines are using SSDs rather than HDDs. Data is physically written to HDDs so there are probably better odds at recovering the data if it hasn't been physically destroyed.
Hillary used bleachbit to wipe her servers, which I'm sure that alone would prevent data from being recovered, but physically destroying the drive ensured nothing could ever be recovered.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think the chances are slim they find anything during a forensic audit. The fact that dominion makes the hardware and software means they have full control over everything.
If the devices are connected to the internet then any evidence will be gone. We'll be able to prove the devices were accessible over the internet which proves the machines weren't secure, but won't give us evidence that votes were manipulated unless network data was captured like the Colonel was saying.
If they aren't connected to the Internet then I can almost guarantee the machines will be clean and the manipulation was done by the USB flash drives. I think this is the most likely scenario since eyes were on the machines and not the USB drives. If they are ever required to hand over those USB drives you know it won't be the ones they used on election night.
If the machines did have code to manipulate votes then it could be possible the ballot images were exported, the drive on the machine was wiped and then a clean version of the software was reinstalled and ballot images were imported.
There's a thousand ways they could have manipulated the vote and they've had 20 some years to figure out the best way to cover their tracks. We have no idea how physically secure these machines have been since the election and we're only getting to look at one piece of the puzzle.
that's true to a degree but it's also bullshit at that same time. think about this, if you have a hard drive with say 1gb of space. say you fill it up. then you delete everything and fill it up with an entirely different amount of stuff, a different batch of 1gb worth of files. are you going to tell me that the original 1gb is still there? because if it were do you know what that'd be? magic. if that first gb is still fully recoverable, that would mean that the hard drive can actually store at LEAST 2 gb. but what if you keep deleting and refilling with new material? how many gb worth of stuff can that 1gb drive actually contain? infinite? wouldn't someone have figured out a way to tap into this infinite storage capacity that all drives supposedly have?
so they can recover stuff after you delete it, yeah. but not if you kept overwriting those sectors of the drive. and there is software that specifically does just that to permanently destroy any data from a drive. like a digital paper shredder, just overwriting sectors over and over. but i'm sure these criminals who stole an election wouldn't have thought of that, would they?
If you watch the military guy who testified in both Michigan and Georgia, i believe he said that even if the machines are wiped, there still is a way to recover data. Also, there’s a good chance they already hacked the machines election night and have all the data. Having a court order to be able to look at the machine gives them valid reason now to have this data and enter it legally into the fight.
Even if they were wiped to the point it would be unrecoverable, is that not destruction of evidence, and also against election laws?
Also yes. States are supposed to keep the evidence for 22 months. This is a damned if they do, damned if they don’t that Trump likes to maneuver people into. But as we learned from our good friend Hillary, only actual physical destruction renders information unreadable. So either way they are screwed.
they couldn't enter hacked data into the legal thing under the pretense that it came from the audit. they could get caught doing that and be in trouble themselves. and it would be rightly thrown out because who would know where they actually got that 'hacked' software? they could have made it themselves and just planted it. that's what i'd accuse them of if i were a democrat lawyer. things don't just work that way.
and yeah everyone knows they can recover some data in some cases but that is hyped. they can't always recover everything. if they could, storage drives would actually have infinite capacity. because that'd mean that no matter how many times you overwrite something on a storage drive, the original stuff is always still there. that'd be infinite capacity. if you overwrite something too many times they can't recover it. and i'm sure the crooks know this basic fact.
If the machines are wiped, it is a win for us. All info is supposed to saved for 22 months. I don't see how they can work around that?
no it's not a win for us. i didn't mean 'wipe' as in completely delete everything from the system. i meant wipe as in, they probably have a 'clean' version of the software, that isn't set up to steal votes. then before the election they upload a version that DOES, and then it does it's thing. then after the election they could probably easily just revert the machines back to the clean software that doesn't have anything like that in its algorithm.
there probably wouldn't be any way to catch that. maybe a server kept some log that something happened at some point in time, something was changed, but that wouldn't go anywhere in court. we need the smoking gun, the 'malicious' software itself, and if they could simply update the machines to remove that and replace it with clean software, we don't have that. and they could've easily done that because according to trump's own team those machines were always online.
and even if the machines were completely blank, that wouldn't get us anywhere in court. haven't you been paying attention? we've already seen a video proving they lied to send people home over a fake water leak and kept counting, and what did THAT get us? we already have the fact that they were "supposed" to let republicans watch them count but in PA they counted, supposedly, 700k votes without doing that. what did that get us? we need the kind of evidence that's really hard to ignore. the actual bad cheaty software would be it, but we won't get that. i'm sure they've cleaned every last machine of it.
If all the machines were wiped, why are some states ordering them erased just now. Fulton county GA just tried to wipe them last week. I wouldn't be so sure everything has been erased.
that's just a formality and/or for show. again, i didn't mean wiped as in erased. i meant wiped as in the 'bad stuff' has been removed. if they had any 'algorithm' or software that was set up to give trump votes to biden, that has been taken off.
This would seem obvious but then why is the Trump team pushing so hard for it? I don't think they would if they weren't sure they'd come up with something. Otherwise coming up with zilch becomes a massive blue pill.
probably they're just going to compile a number of ways the machines can be hacked or interfaced with to show that they're 'insecure', but that's not going to get us anywhere.
And, since we're talking 9/11 style, Dominion flipping looks like one of those bipartisan inside jobs... hopefully this analysis will give us a building 7 of data.
The algorithm stuff only matters if this was happening on the client side and not the server side. If the machines themselves were doing the flipping, then we got them. If they were being sent to a server, maybe in Frankfurt Germany, then the algorithm would be living on that server. I'm sure they know what they're doing and they can probably detect traffic in and out of the machine, which would also be highly problematic. Grab some popcorn.
It has to be done
Let's go hunting
They had years to get the algorithm right and not have to stop counting and inject an obvious buttload of fake votes but they fucked that up.
This was a brazen steal, not necessarily a competent one. Let's see what we get.
This is my biggest worry. Seems like there was enough time to update the machines software during last 4 weeks. My hope is that they somehow missed some machines and Trump team have their hands on them.
how would they have missed any though? trump's own team has had witnesses claiming the machines were always online. it's been one of the key points of trump's team's arguments. if they're always online they basically just push a button and bing bang boom all online machines are reverted to 'clean'.
Let's hope some machines were turned off by the workers in some remote rural areas thinking it's all over or turned off wifi after elections. We dont need many. Just one or two machines with original weight switching algorithm will do.
what if the machines cant be completely turned off? what if there's something where as long as they're plugged in, they can be told to turn themselves back on for a remote update?
give the machines to 4chan and they will find out what porn movie the dad of the engineer that worked on the machines 5 years ago watched most
I can't imagine they wouldn't have checked for surveillance cameras in the voting areas, yet we have them on said surveillance cameras.
This isn't just about fraud. Remember, they've been painting Trump as a super dictator Nazi bad guy for the last 4-5 years. They know most people don't actually understand how the Presidential election works.
They want to make it LOOK like a legit election. The fraud evidence is pretty blatant, but MSM keeps saying "no evidence of widespread fraud". The thing is that we aren't really looking for "widespread fraud". We're primarily looking for fraud in 4 states, with lesser efforts going on in a few others. However, most people are going to take the MSM misrepresentation over the actual situation.
Take the video of them bringing coolers and hard cases into these voting centers late at night. They tried to claim it was "camera equipment" or other such things. Now any rational person would ask "Well if it actually was camera equipment, why would you wait until late at night to bring it?"
A lot of "regular people" are expecting individuals to be charged with voter fraud, and that's been the angle used by the Dems and MSM against efforts to combat voter fraud. They claim that, since relatively few people have been charged and convicted of voter fraud, it must not happen all that often. What they don't want "regular people" to find out is that you don't need convictions of fraud in order to point out instances of fraud and then contest an election based on those instances.
So they keep pitching this story of "no widespread evidence" so "regular people" will think that the election was legitimate in an effort to convince people that Trump's second term is illegitimate. It's a slightly different take on the same shit they tried with Russiagate. During Trump's first term, they claimed that he was not the President because he cheated with the help of foreign nations. During Trump's second term, they'll claim that he's not the President because he used the Supreme Court of the United States and/or state legislatures to circumvent the election.
Like a gift tag that says something like, "To our friends the democrats, from your buddy China"
They will be able to find fraud even if the machines were erased. The people they sent to inspect have military intelligence backgrounds.
The problem is that no one can be sure if
-the machines -the programs
are actually the same used in the elections.
**They have had ample time to switch either the machines, the programs, or both. **
Waldron is the key here. His team knew what they were looking at in August, possibly earlier. They know what to look for. They were watching it happen in real time. Waldron knows WAY more about what's going on with these machines than Flynn - not to discount Flynn at all, but Waldron blew the doors on the Dominion machines wide open. Waldron could and maybe will spend years testifying against these machines and how they work.
Agree on Waldron. He has stated that even if the machines are ‘wiped clean’, his team can still get the goods
Waldron spent the bulk of his career doing cyber security for the military. Dude and the dudes he works with know their shit. Most of us probably can't even conceive of what they can do.
The presence and subsequent deletion of data still leaves an imprint on the storage medium. There are ways to reconstruct data from these imprints but generally takes some costly software
Depending on the mechanism for wiping and the device being wiped, it may be difficult or impossible to fully reconstruct "wiped" data. Flash vs magnetic storage matters too, as does the particular type of drive controller (e.g., in an SSD). Emphasis on "fully reconstruct," though - even freeware tools can usually recover some partial fragments, which hopefully would still prove damning.
I haven’t questioned Waldron bc I don’t have any of his expertise! But if the man says it, I believe him!
refresh me on Waldron? who is he? Trump guy? DOD? NSA?
Col Waldron, 100% Trump guy, has been presenting in all of the state legislature hearings. Ex military chopper pilot, then went into information warfare for the military, and after retiring has been working/running for a private investigative company/team, using white hat hackers and ex-military to investigate information warfare techniques. They started looking into Dominion last summer, and used white hat hackers to break into Dominion servers, and watched them real time stealing votes, and monitored the packets going to Frankfurt.
According to many sources, he was part of the 305th military intelligence battalion, which was nicknamed "The Kraken".
Watch the PA hearings, he lays most of it out there, and follows up with more in his AZ appearance.
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Yes there must be source code pulled from somewhere that can be compared to see what they changed, and likely when. If they did it election night since they are internet connected the create date on the files should be the last day of counting. They are only acting like they care if we inspect the machines. As stupid as the deep state is they are smart enough to know trump would eventually get his hands on them. But trump would know they know this and 5D their loser asses.
I've heard multiple mentions over the last month that December 9th will be a significant date. Never really any context around it either, which I thought was interesting. This could possibly be what it's all about. We will see.
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What is the result that we’re even looking for: just to find fraud to take it to the Supreme Court? Change the actual votes/rule out fraudulent votes to change what the reported results were, showing Trump won without compromised machine votes?
CAN YOU SMELL WHAT ALITO IS COOKIN'????
How sure can we be that someone hasn’t “fixed” the machines before the forensic examinations?
If the files will say last modified december something. It has been tampered with.
Lol. No offence but that is special level retarded to think that it would be as simple as that.
But you gave me my first laugh of the day, so thanks!
Sure, it isn't that simple and there is a lot more to a digital forensic investigation than just that. But that is something that is definitely going to happen.
One can cover their tracks if they are extremely knowledgeable about the inner-workings of a system and how each action taken will affect the system. But interacting with a system in any meaningful way (and sometimes even in non-meaningful ways) can result in a lot of unforeseen changes to a system which can result in very compelling forensic evidence.
Purple_nitrile, while being very brief, isn't wrong. They will use the file system metadata to construct a timeline which will be heavily scrutinized. Even one file showing anomalous created/modified/access times can reveal quite a bit and/or prove that the system was tampered with.
I see someone's done static timeline analysis before... :)
Smoke test/Regression, but you can always compare the rev numbers. See what it is on the production/golden branch and check what the machines show.
That's pretty simple to cross check. I'd imagine they have a 'clean' rev in a different branch so you'd see something like rev. b1.23.33.
I doubt they have access to version history. They may be able to show when the last update came in.
Every update has to be certified by the state so if they did update right before or during the process of counting theyd still have to throw out all the ballots.
Also, they can inspect the saved ballot images and see if they match up to the physical ballots.
Then the whole thing is thrown out, as they can't audit the votes.
How do we even know it's the machine used on election night?
I'm hoping for a play by play with some video
Criminal cases are secondary at this point, unfortunately.
Slunt = slut + cunt?
My favorite is "slattern".
One of the forms of Gozer the Destructor.
Slunton. Slut, cunt + Clinton.
They were probably given squeaky clean machines.
Elsenheimer’s order said that Antrim County needs to “maintain, preserve and protect all records in its possession used to tabulate votes in Antrim County, to not turn on the Dominion tabulator in its possession and to not connect the Dominion tabulator in its possession to the internet,” as reported by the Detroit News.
why would dominion ever comply to a judge order?
I doubt they know how to wipe code from those machines.
Are these all the voting machines in that county? Who decides which 22 they get access to?
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If they can prove problems with the machines they have, that would automatically make all other machines that run the same software suspect.
We all know how good democrats are at obeying laws and rules
Oops. Someone accidently plugged an ethernet cable into the machines. Sorry. rubs nipples
And the fraud.... is gone.
This is all well and good. I hope it yields results, but is there anyone in here who doesn't believe these machines have already been wiped? Initially there were reports that these machines could be set to not keep log files. The log files can be edited. These machines at one time were connected to the internet, and there have been four weeks to work on and wipe them over this said internet connection. There's no way they're going to find anything. These people are evil but not stupid. Eric Coomer, the Dominion Antifa cuck whose on record saying "Trump won't win, I've made sure of that." is a nuclear physicist I believe. This is highly likely to be a democrat trick, so the team has to come out and say they didn't have anything off these machines. We might as well get ready for that.
They'll be able to say, "The vulnerabilities we described and capabilities described in the operators' manual exist. It could have done this. The log files are set to not keep and appear to have been modified." In a sane world this would be it. It'd invalidate the election. However, for four months we've lived in an unbelievably insane and corrupt seemingly fake world, so if things play out like I've described, the "there's no proof" narrative will be fueled and ramped up. Cover will be ran for Dominion. This will be used as an example of how awesome these machines are.
Maybe it was wiped with a cloth, fact checkers say there's nothing wrong with that.
Have faith Schroeder09, as important as this audit is, it will not make or break our case, there are still plenty of variables at play. Hold strong. Anything can happen between now and the 20th.
You are exactly right. There is a LOT that can happen and a lot that WILL happen between now and the 20th.
these fucks are not helping or hindering us - if they cooperate they are saving themselves, and if they fail to cooperate they are signing their own death warrants.
homey don't play dat shit.
firing squads have come back into fashion for a reason.
I understand your anger brother but we must try to quell our frustrations, it will not serve us as much as a temperate mind will. There are very big decisions to be made in our future as you imply.
I don't feel angry or frustrated. I'm fascinated watching history unfold.
Waldron has stated that his team can still get evidence even if they’ve been ‘wiped’. I don’t understand what that means, but I take him at his word
The reset of the machines likely doesn't do any kind of intense "wipe" of the data. It just deletes files. When files are deleted they are not overwritten immediately, they just have the entry in an index pointing to the file removed. So an image of the entire storage device would still have the deleted data and you can run some tools to undelete it.
If the machines use hard disks, it's possible to read old data on the disk even if it's been written over. That would require more than 8 hours though.
Recoverability depends on the wiping mechanism. If the traitors are smart, they'll have used one of a variety of wiping algorithms that make multiple passes over the storage device to overwrite it with all zeros, all ones, and/or random bits in such a way that the original data become pretty much unrecoverable.
yes I heard this, but there are different methods of wiping and how permanent each is. I'm not a programmer, so I'm not going to pretend to know exactly how it works. I think there ARE ways to permanently wipe these though. They've had 4 weeks to do it over the internet connection and even in person in the dead of night.
Don't get me wrong. I'm hoping and praying for the best. I'm just not holding my breath. These people are destroying evidence left and right. They're never held accountable for it. Why would the evidence here not have been destroyed? This in fact already happened earlier this week in GA. When the dominion server "crashed" it was "accidentally" wiped in the process of trying to "fix" it. The people who did this should hang, but instead they walked away unscathed.
There’s so much conflicting information it’s really hard to know what’s true. I’ve just decided to put my faith and trust in people like Waldron. I have no way to dispute what he says.
You're right. Idk what to believe either.
Sounds like they should have sent Special Ops to get some of these machines instead of “servers in Germany”.
If its flash-based then the wear levelling used makes it extremely difficult to truly "delete" a file, since there'll likely be earlier versions of the file scattered throughout the flash.
The investigators already know this.
It depends on internals - most of the docs and manuals I've seen screenshots and pdfs of have referenced 'underlying Android os.'
If that's true of the machine, and not just tablet apps they were using to manage, then it should be Java code, which could either be compiled to byte-code (pre-compiled "close" to the os) or could be run through a native compiler, since they should all have similar/same os. Native would get a bit lower level.
If os isn't android, java is still "likely," but could be anything (within reason)
If it's a compiled language (probably, given performance wanted for ocr and image processing), the code would still be decompilable. Not as easy to read, but you can still see what's going on.
If it's runtime interpreted (and not obfuscated) it's just code and easy to read. If it's obfuscated, it's easier to follow than decompiler source, but pretty much the same.
If it is secured and signed, it may not be decompilable (easily) but once something is loaded into memory, you can get at it and reverse out what's going on.
In any case, anything that does "something" with input does have some form of code on it. It's all about how you want to get at it and if you define that as "code"
The term you are looking for is "Clown World".
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As a cyber security guy it wont matter if they deleted shit. We can look at logs , timestamps and know that shit was wiped without a doubt. If they wiped data that just gives even more ammunition to imprison and impound more boxes. These are riggers we are talking about not high speed hackers. I bet dominions IT guys are sloppy as fuck with the kind of funding they have.
Depending on how good their team is they can even look at deleted portions of memory if they need to. If Sidney is right they will be able to confirm the vote flipping. I'm interested in seeing connection events , how they implemented the voting network and hopefully seeing some configs that show shit that goes out to the internet. If it does its gg lol.
Hoping the 305 will lay out all that threadbare.
Then we'll be in open war, and sedition charges upgraded to treason.
dingdingding we have a winner
If it leads to a foreign country wed have to be careful on retaliation. Lots of orgs use foreign web servers to hide their location even a script kiddie would do it.
If it is a foreign web provider that has ties to our voting systems the US will reign in their influence to demand the company give up their client using it. I doubt the company would comply though. The corruption for the globalists run deep.
Now if theyre so fucking sloppy that it ties back to dominion directly lmfao that would be pitiful.
Bingo - that’s what Waldron has said
Agreed. I doubt they have the expertise to completely cover their tracks. I would love to have images of the drives/memory to pull apart myself.
Yes . I hope they put this shit on a public forum so we can mess with it. I know of a lot of autists who write their own malware and would love to reverse this shit.
POTUS won Antrim County. What makes them think these machines were rigged ?
Did you forget about the whole flipped totals thing in that county?
Biden was given the win initially, but it was then discovered that he had received 6000 votes that were part of a "glitch." The county figured it out, hand counted the ballots and returned the voted to Trump. So yes, Trump ended up getting the county, but the question is how many other counties had this happen and what was the "glitch."
The way the Dominion algorithm works is that it's siphoning votes from red districts to Biden. So counties where POTUS won are exactly where you would want to look.
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that's the point. trum team pulled a fast one on em. look at it this way pede, the counties that are hotly contested are going to have the strongest resistance, but in antrim county, trump won, despite dominion use. if there was any county official that thought they were safe from an exam (and thus failed to wipe tha machine data on time), it would be the one that gave trump the win.
But thes are still dominion machines, there is still that programming error (feature), and we have heard tell that there is info on the internet traffic on the night of the election. If antrim county has these errors, then it opens the door for all other areas to be audited, and on top of that? If switched votes are found in this county, it will still be deducted from biden, and added to trump. anything higher than a 3% gain in this county may well hand the whole state right back to trump. this is a gain regardless, so long as the machines have even a modicum of fishy business going on.
That's really clever thinking, swooping in on the machines in a winning county since they seem to be convinced that all he cares about is winning and maybe they would have focused their coverup efforts on the losing counties.
I’m starting to foresee the day when all of this mess gets cleared up. The new way for evil to try and win the election will be to frame our candidate and cry gotcha. They will try and use their own stupidity and reverse it on us. Catch my drift? Hopefully we will be better prepared if we get another chance.
According to Waldron, they can get fraud information from any machine. Since they are all connected to the same network, he can find the fraud algorithm that affected all machines
My worry.
My biggest fear. Enough time has gone by to make whatever changes they have to for the results to comeback “confirmed”.
With that being said I don’t really know what goes into a forensic audit of voting machines.
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The software itself is fraudulent by design, they have already the manuals on how to do certain things, let's say you have a manual showing you how to open the windows explorer on windows then you go into the machine and try to do what it says then you'll open the explorer, if you want that windows to do something different then you have to build very different windows and clean and patch all references to the explorer in a very large amount of code and install it in all the machines, if 1 works different that the others it would be suspicious and will only incriminate them more. The traitors in those places could have completely clean the logs and everything you want, but Rudy's team don't really need that, it would be great to have it but they just need to take all the machines they can and if in one of them using it according to the manual and use the function to change votes and it works it's game over.
Absolutely! Truth is, that most folks don't get it. I'm so mad about this STEAL! We need harsher punishments for commies RIGGING our elections!
How awesome would it be to see all these deep state goons get lined up all at once.
And if that's not enough... Well, there's THAT! Just sayin' !
Haha! There is more than one reason we voted for him! Thanks for sharing. The state of Washington allows for death penalty... Just saying!
russiagate was one chess piece, Trump held back in other ways so he could get the whole thing.
the boil will get lanced, the pus will be pushed out, H2O2 will be distributed liberally.
it took a while and i was wondering why the downvotes, then realized i had mistakenly posted an answer/comment to the wrong thread. hence the deletion.
Rudy's team will most likely have Col. Waldron and his people in there with him. If anyone can find the evidence, they can - they already hacked into machines in other states.
Think? the Col testified in the PA and GA hearings that they were laying in wait, they were researching these machines all the way back in August, if not earlier.
Russ Ramsland is another cyber sleuth that has been working on these machines since 2018.
didn't they already find one in a small county in Georgia?
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlKUy9v0/this-is-big-using-sequestered-do/c/
+1 - I didn't think Giuliani would stay with the American people, but h**l he has! I was wrong and he's proven he's a true patriot. God bless him!
I think the angle some of the doomers in the comments are missing is the fact that Dominion & the leftists can "wipe" the voting machines all they want, but there are some things you can't wipe completely away. I believe even the act of them "wiping the machines" could be seen from a forensic footprint.
Don't lose hope guys! Patriots are in control.
NCSWIC
seriously. if theres blood on your hands and a missing dead body, just because they cant find the body doesnt mean that nobody killed them.
I'm tired of seeing Trump Team whenever there's actual investigations being done.
Glad my taxes are going to the useful idiots in the alphabet soup cans.
makes me feel better about losing a lot of my paycheck in weekly boating accidents.
Do we know when the results of that audit should become available?
Just be thankful it isn't the FBI or DoJ doing the investigation or we'd be dead before results were outlined
YES I am glad the news didn't say "FBI"
It says in the article, 48 hours
This is great news! providing the machines were impounded since NOV 3.
Inb4 Dems instantly dismiss it as a Kremlin led bias operation since it's the "Trump Team" conducting the audit.
I'm calling it right now: they'll find evidence of fraud, then the media will come up with some BS explanation of how it's not actually fraud and it's "supposed" to do that. Literally nothing will convince them. Biden could literally go on TV and concede and admit he cheated and they'd say he was forced into saying it
pray for their ability to find any illegal activity
i swear to god bro. there better be something meaningful out of this forensic examination. unless any chain of custody was not maintained.....idk man. but i really hope they find something...
Hopefully, Patriots have been staking out who goes in or out of that facility until they show up.
Everything will have been cleaned already, unless the cheating is so ingrained as to be part of the base functionality.
I'm hoping the enemy were too confident, but I'm not confident they were.
Even if they wiped the machines, forensics team can still retrieve all that information. Unless Bleachbit was used, which would be just as incriminating as leaving the evidence there.
Man cloth technology is really something these days
Don't think they're sending Hillary's team lol
They only get to look at these things for 8 hours? That's not a ton of time to gather what needs to be gathered about these machines. Especially since they're not getting source code.
I hope one of these guys just images the OS and dumps it online or tries to decompile. Fuck Dominion and fuck their IP at this point.
Put that shit on Github and let us do what needs to be done.
If the FBI / DOJ were doing their jobs properly, then waiting for a judge to give a access to the machines is not necessary, correct?
Seems like the deep state managed to give the Trump team every handicap possible.
getting the machines a month later is pretty bad so i am not expecting obvious evidence. Most likely evidence that they have been altered a week ago.
This is what the riggers did not want to happen we all know that. Once they do the analysis they will see the the algorithm giving votes less for trump same as what is happening in georgia.
WOW! Confiscated Dominion Machine in Georgia Switched 26% of votes to Biden in Test! BOOM! Sidney Powell was RIGHT! https://txt.so/ZZPAVg
The machines are a good start but there are several levels above the machines in that system where chenanigans could be introduced. I'll bet my left nut, its a commie anyway, that multiple groups were at play and each had their own vector of attack. Only way to know is to check it all from origination of the vote to its final tally resting place.
Trump didn't win in a landslide, he won in an avalanche.
The stupidly optimistic feeling you get when you know that these machines have been sitting there unsupervised for over a month and that if they wanted to come in and wipe them it would have been incredibly easy to do. But you still hope they find something.
Hopefully they will be able to tell if the machines were tampered with as far as hiding evidence or wiping the system either part of it or the whole thing. The sheer amount of time to get this order left plenty of time for anyone to tamper with them beyond the point, after the election.
Why is there an assumption that the election thieves are all of a sudden smart? They left breadcrumbs everywhere they went!
I suspect that some of that forensic team hang out here. Godspeed, guys.
Pretty sure they start in the morning and I'm 99% sure Ron is there.
If I were to guess, they de-rigged those machines after the "glitch" to avoid this exact thing happening and gave us this sample intentionally.
My other guess is that Ron & friends are way ahead of them.
How do we know they did not tamper with it prior to this?
Funny, Trump team can do an investigation and have the results in 48 hrs. It's been 2 years, millions of dollars, hundreds of attorneys and Durham still has not finished his investigation.
How do we know that these machines have not been tempered with or already reset?
Or were intentionally "available" as to confuse? They should still look at them, but this should not take any effort from the other directions. I believe that machines that were tempered with are already wiped/destroyed.
My understanding is that even if the programs or data used were wiped there will be remnants of it forever found on the computer's memory. There will be something that comes of this, no doubt.
What if they’ve already scrubbed the machines? Weren’t they likely manipulating the data elsewhere and returning it?
I hope those machines weren't wiped already.
If they are smart: They won't be looking at code-changes-etc... THEY SHOULD be looking at the underlying security-access controls BECAUSE IF PROPER SECURITY CONTROLS ARE NOT IN PLACE, THEN AN "AUDIT" IS IMPOSSIBLE. and if you can't audit the vote, then BYE BYE VOTE.
We already know the machines at the center in Michigan had the admin password on a sticky note.
superuser. On a sticky note. Nice. :/
Oh.... i cant wait to see what the “steal” % was set at up there!
FBI is a complete waste of our Taxes! We should march against them and CIA
I feel like the kind of thing they are looking for could easily cover its own tracks.
Clear and undeniable fraud must be found or this entire thing will continue to be buried by the Chicom Media.
The Georgia video should have been more than enough yet the media quickly looked away, shouted "debunked!" and the story failed to catch on as big as it needs to for the steal to be stopped.
For now the Chicoms continue to march on with the takeover of America.
WE. ARE. AT. WAR.
What's to say they "updated" the software again after the count
Given the evidence so far of hostile nation state involvement with this company (Dominion et al) I would not be surprised if there are built in anti forensics. Things like being able to manipulate file headers and change file times to hide “updates” and changes to files or things like overwriting memory to securely remove audit logs. I would also not doubt there are embedded hardware with it’s own WiFi or Bluetooth to overcome airgap controls. Just my hunch but that is what I would be looking for if I were investigating. I know the President will bring in a good team. Let’s hope they find the goods.
AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU GIYS ARE SCREWED NOW
Who picked the 22 machines, and can these machines be confirmed to have been used in this election?
This gonna be Fun. Love ya Pedes!
DISCONNECT THEM FROM THE INTERNET. NOW.
Source: https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-lawyer-jenna-ellis-judge-granted-access-to-22-dominion-machines-in-michigan_3606613.html