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Serioussurfaholic 4 points ago +4 / -0

A drugged society is a compliant society. In Huxley's brave New World, the drug of choice was Soma.

Funny, Soma is a real drug now and gets quite a lot of recreational use in some places.

I can see medical uses for pot. But the pot they grow now is not the stuff they grew when I was kid during the Viet Nam war. This stuff worries me.

I don't partake and can't be around it, I'm allergic. Something potheads often believe is impossible, but it isn't.

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Proud_American 2 points ago +2 / -0

It just means the amount needed to get high is less. Instead of smoking an entire “cigarette” it only takes a single puff or two. Far better for the lungs in this respect, too.

Despite the differences, there is no new chemical in pot that wasn’t there before. It’s simply more refined.

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Serioussurfaholic 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get that. But I also wonder if it actually makes a functional difference in how much people use over time.

I find it interesting that some of the smokers I know have found that different types of the new stuff make them paranoid or cause other unpleasant side effects.

I have no innate objection to those who choose to smoke, it's their body and their choice so long as that choice doesn't negatively impact others. But I also don't see an overall societal benefit to drug use in general, especially not when so many people sell narratives that make it seem like something is harmless or worse, a universal panacea.

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Proud_American 1 point ago +1 / -0

For me, considering it’s not a refined product, I don’t consider it a problem with respect to heavy drugs. This includes pharmaceuticals which are truly narcotics.

Fact is, the decades of hybridization has diluted the best parts of cannabis use and paranoia is a direct side effect of the accelerated THC levels and reduced CBD levels. I’ve been a grower for many years and simply don’t like the effects of the ramped up strains. This year I popped some old school seeds from years past and produced a much more pleasurable weed to smoke. It quashed the idea that long term use leads to specific side effects. Fact is, the weed has been bred in a negative manner, IMO. The stuff I cranked out this year is far more usable for recreational use and has that “let’s take another hit” effect instead of the “Jesus fucking Christ how much longer until it wears off?”

Bottom line, smoking cannabis can absolutely give you a head change that makes things seem ok when they in fact are not. It’s the only thing I worry, people will gloss over the worst atrocities with respect to government control because they simply don’t sense the reality due to the side effects of using weed.

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Serioussurfaholic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you for providing a grower's perspective, that is extremely interesting! So if I understand you correctly, the CBD/THC ratio makes a substantive difference in the type of high one experiences? That makes sense. I am not generally a fan of extensive hybridization of anything really, at least not in terms of food or flowers. Heirloom or minimally hybridized flowers and food tend to taste better and smell better to me. Thus I tend to avoid most big ag produced fruits, veggies and flowers when budget permits.

As a grower, would you see a market for what one would call "heirloom" weed being a big thing? Or do you think the new generation of smokers that would get involved would be more attracted to these ramped up strains?

Your last point is my biggest worry when it comes to drugs in general, be it the over prescribing of psych meds at earlier and earlier ages, or legalizing weed and other things. I have taken psych meds in the past, and they tend to "unplug" you from reality, in some cases quite profoundly. The pot smokers I know have remarked weed does essentially the same thing to greater or lesser degrees. So especially now when our government is utterly untrustworthy, I don't see this as a good thing.