well, it depends on the age group you're looking at. CFR of the virus depends on a lot of factors, but the simplest one that accounts for the most variability is age (age lumps in weight and immunity as well).
i think people in rudy's age bracket of 70+ are ~20% likely to die (plus he smokes cigars and drinks, right? trump does neither, and that was likely a huge factor in his ability to bounce back. lefties joke all the time trump eats mcdonalds and is overweight. well guess what, he doesnt drink or smoke, making him still quite robust!). it's not at all a lie that older folks are getting killed by this virus preferentially.
Not a doomer, just a PhD with lots of experience with biostatistics, hoping to clarify this. I sincerely HOPE he gets on:
HCQ, Vit D, Regeneron cocktail (unlikely), Famotidine, zinc, and dexamethasone. with reasonable doses. i'm one of those logical scientists that has been PRO HCQ and zinc since January!
yeah the virus isn't the end of the world. BUT if we ignore that 300k of our american brothers and sisters are DEAD, mostly our parents and grandparents, our wiser elders, and just play it down, we are LETTING THE CCP OFF THE HOOK.
THE CCP KILLED OUR CITIZENS.
If you're able to be safe, have good immunity, work out, eat well, sleep well, you're probably fine! even if you wear a mask, all the better (no need to wear it in the car or when you're alone). But don't say this isn't nothing.
You now have a RESPONSIBILITY to work harder for those who have been laid low by this fucking bioweapon. Your rights, that America and true patriots fought for, are burdened with responsibility. So we must all understand that there is weight associated with understanding the toll of this virus, and we must keep all the commies, shills, and globalists accountable for hurting our people.
the data vary depending on a lot of factors, but in NY CFR approached 20%. I don't trust Chinese #s, neither should you.
I'm thinking you might be misinterpreting the CDC data, which, I'll humor you and others, looks like this (and this is a VERY broad strokes picture, with less accuracy than a scientific publication):
= ~10.5% CFR, and that's a broadstrokes picture of CFR in geriatrics, not accounting for location or other factors. So in general, its nearly double what you say it is, and depending on some factors, can reach 20% like what I said.
you're gonna find I'm right! But that's good, because it means if you look at the chart, you can see in people under 50, the odds are EXTREMLY low for death (but I'm reserving commentary on OTHER factors, like cognitive issues or longterm respiratory/pulmonary issues, for which I have seen evidence. sure its not death but it's not a 100% recovery rate for many people). For people above 50, it can be around 2%, which is not great odds. as you can see it gets worse for older people, especially those who dont have the great medical care Trump got!
Anyway, if you read this, great. again, i have a phd in a biostats heavy STEM field, I think know what I'm talking about, i'm approaching this with nuance, (i even said "I think its ~20%" expressing a little unsureness, while you casually and quickly say "It's 6% dude.. " with no indication of unsureness) and provided a legitimate source.
i'm willing to hear why you offhandedly dismissed me with the 6% number.
Why would you use NY's numbers as a reference point? Those numbers were staggering because Cuomo dumped sick, vulnerable old people out of hospitals to "free up beds" and forced them into senior care facilities that were utterly ill prepared to help them.
Of course they died in huge numbers. It was practically a medical mini-holocaust.
well, it depends on the age group you're looking at. CFR of the virus depends on a lot of factors, but the simplest one that accounts for the most variability is age (age lumps in weight and immunity as well).
i think people in rudy's age bracket of 70+ are ~20% likely to die (plus he smokes cigars and drinks, right? trump does neither, and that was likely a huge factor in his ability to bounce back. lefties joke all the time trump eats mcdonalds and is overweight. well guess what, he doesnt drink or smoke, making him still quite robust!). it's not at all a lie that older folks are getting killed by this virus preferentially.
Not a doomer, just a PhD with lots of experience with biostatistics, hoping to clarify this. I sincerely HOPE he gets on:
HCQ, Vit D, Regeneron cocktail (unlikely), Famotidine, zinc, and dexamethasone. with reasonable doses. i'm one of those logical scientists that has been PRO HCQ and zinc since January!
yeah the virus isn't the end of the world. BUT if we ignore that 300k of our american brothers and sisters are DEAD, mostly our parents and grandparents, our wiser elders, and just play it down, we are LETTING THE CCP OFF THE HOOK.
THE CCP KILLED OUR CITIZENS.
If you're able to be safe, have good immunity, work out, eat well, sleep well, you're probably fine! even if you wear a mask, all the better (no need to wear it in the car or when you're alone). But don't say this isn't nothing.
You now have a RESPONSIBILITY to work harder for those who have been laid low by this fucking bioweapon. Your rights, that America and true patriots fought for, are burdened with responsibility. So we must all understand that there is weight associated with understanding the toll of this virus, and we must keep all the commies, shills, and globalists accountable for hurting our people.
OK! I'm pulling mine from peer reviewed articles.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7247470/
the data vary depending on a lot of factors, but in NY CFR approached 20%. I don't trust Chinese #s, neither should you.
I'm thinking you might be misinterpreting the CDC data, which, I'll humor you and others, looks like this (and this is a VERY broad strokes picture, with less accuracy than a scientific publication):
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics Cases by Age Group / Deaths by Age Group ( and these data are weeks old now)
for ages 65+ (42091 + 54534 + 65654) / (816130 + 443535 + 283992)
= ~10.5% CFR, and that's a broadstrokes picture of CFR in geriatrics, not accounting for location or other factors. So in general, its nearly double what you say it is, and depending on some factors, can reach 20% like what I said.
you're gonna find I'm right! But that's good, because it means if you look at the chart, you can see in people under 50, the odds are EXTREMLY low for death (but I'm reserving commentary on OTHER factors, like cognitive issues or longterm respiratory/pulmonary issues, for which I have seen evidence. sure its not death but it's not a 100% recovery rate for many people). For people above 50, it can be around 2%, which is not great odds. as you can see it gets worse for older people, especially those who dont have the great medical care Trump got!
Anyway, if you read this, great. again, i have a phd in a biostats heavy STEM field, I think know what I'm talking about, i'm approaching this with nuance, (i even said "I think its ~20%" expressing a little unsureness, while you casually and quickly say "It's 6% dude.. " with no indication of unsureness) and provided a legitimate source. i'm willing to hear why you offhandedly dismissed me with the 6% number.
Why would you use NY's numbers as a reference point? Those numbers were staggering because Cuomo dumped sick, vulnerable old people out of hospitals to "free up beds" and forced them into senior care facilities that were utterly ill prepared to help them.
Of course they died in huge numbers. It was practically a medical mini-holocaust.