the data vary depending on a lot of factors, but in NY CFR approached 20%. I don't trust Chinese #s, neither should you.
I'm thinking you might be misinterpreting the CDC data, which, I'll humor you and others, looks like this (and this is a VERY broad strokes picture, with less accuracy than a scientific publication):
= ~10.5% CFR, and that's a broadstrokes picture of CFR in geriatrics, not accounting for location or other factors. So in general, its nearly double what you say it is, and depending on some factors, can reach 20% like what I said.
you're gonna find I'm right! But that's good, because it means if you look at the chart, you can see in people under 50, the odds are EXTREMLY low for death (but I'm reserving commentary on OTHER factors, like cognitive issues or longterm respiratory/pulmonary issues, for which I have seen evidence. sure its not death but it's not a 100% recovery rate for many people). For people above 50, it can be around 2%, which is not great odds. as you can see it gets worse for older people, especially those who dont have the great medical care Trump got!
Anyway, if you read this, great. again, i have a phd in a biostats heavy STEM field, I think know what I'm talking about, i'm approaching this with nuance, (i even said "I think its ~20%" expressing a little unsureness, while you casually and quickly say "It's 6% dude.. " with no indication of unsureness) and provided a legitimate source.
i'm willing to hear why you offhandedly dismissed me with the 6% number.
Why would you use NY's numbers as a reference point? Those numbers were staggering because Cuomo dumped sick, vulnerable old people out of hospitals to "free up beds" and forced them into senior care facilities that were utterly ill prepared to help them.
Of course they died in huge numbers. It was practically a medical mini-holocaust.
agreed on the mini-holocaust. terrible management.
i wouldnt' say i used it as a reference point, those are your words. I just pulled it up as a statistic i recall reading and calculating myself a while back.
Hard to know in this soup of dirty statistics. All I know is that NY numbers can hardly be indicative of actual virus fatality when really, they are more instructive of how politicians kill citizens.
OK! I'm pulling mine from peer reviewed articles.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7247470/
the data vary depending on a lot of factors, but in NY CFR approached 20%. I don't trust Chinese #s, neither should you.
I'm thinking you might be misinterpreting the CDC data, which, I'll humor you and others, looks like this (and this is a VERY broad strokes picture, with less accuracy than a scientific publication):
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#demographics Cases by Age Group / Deaths by Age Group ( and these data are weeks old now)
for ages 65+ (42091 + 54534 + 65654) / (816130 + 443535 + 283992)
= ~10.5% CFR, and that's a broadstrokes picture of CFR in geriatrics, not accounting for location or other factors. So in general, its nearly double what you say it is, and depending on some factors, can reach 20% like what I said.
you're gonna find I'm right! But that's good, because it means if you look at the chart, you can see in people under 50, the odds are EXTREMLY low for death (but I'm reserving commentary on OTHER factors, like cognitive issues or longterm respiratory/pulmonary issues, for which I have seen evidence. sure its not death but it's not a 100% recovery rate for many people). For people above 50, it can be around 2%, which is not great odds. as you can see it gets worse for older people, especially those who dont have the great medical care Trump got!
Anyway, if you read this, great. again, i have a phd in a biostats heavy STEM field, I think know what I'm talking about, i'm approaching this with nuance, (i even said "I think its ~20%" expressing a little unsureness, while you casually and quickly say "It's 6% dude.. " with no indication of unsureness) and provided a legitimate source. i'm willing to hear why you offhandedly dismissed me with the 6% number.
Why would you use NY's numbers as a reference point? Those numbers were staggering because Cuomo dumped sick, vulnerable old people out of hospitals to "free up beds" and forced them into senior care facilities that were utterly ill prepared to help them.
Of course they died in huge numbers. It was practically a medical mini-holocaust.
agreed on the mini-holocaust. terrible management.
i wouldnt' say i used it as a reference point, those are your words. I just pulled it up as a statistic i recall reading and calculating myself a while back.
what reference would you rather use?
Hard to know in this soup of dirty statistics. All I know is that NY numbers can hardly be indicative of actual virus fatality when really, they are more instructive of how politicians kill citizens.