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Yeah, I'm afraid that's what's going to happen to many of us. I'm sure, where I work they'll be making this a mandatory issue for employment. There are other jobs of course but how many employers are going to insist their employees be vaccinated to "protect" those that DID submit?
They are pass fail, the employer cannot request you to provide any medical details and there is no laws in any state that requires you to comply with any medical procedure in order to obtain employment.
Drug tests are not medical procedures, they are diagnostics to see if you are under the influence of mind altering drugs.
Physicals are not medical procedures, they are diagnostics to see if you are physically sound and capable to performing any manual labor or movement required by the employer within the job description.
A vaccine IS a procedure, an injection of a substance not naturally within ones body. This is protected under HIPAA and there is no law that any employer can refer to use it as a gatekeeper to employment.
Did travel nursing in Texas and the facilities I worked in required proof of tetanus vaccination. And while there may be no law regarding compliance, employers are at liberty to choose whom they employ with their business.
If you people think fucking hipaa is going to protect you your insane. They dont let kids go to school in many states if they don't have their vaccines. Why doesn't hipaa protect them?
The constitution says I have a right to free assembly, how come I'm stuck at home?
Look around. It ain't 2010 anymore. Its not even 2018. We have ZERO rights. Its over before many of you realized. You became slaves while you slept.
They are. Outside of a very few restricted instances, HIPAA requires your consent or a court order for the release of your medical records.
Even in cases where they only hire non-smokers, they have to test for tobacco themselves. Pretty sure they're not going to give you a potential double vaccination...
You could just tell them due to HIPAA you don't have to disclose your medical information, and if they press, sue the shit out of them for violation of HIPAA and your personal privacy.
Go ahead and start collecting damning information on these companies now. If they do decide to fire people over this, you can destroy them (or at least inconvenience them) on the way out.
We have the right to decline by default. I don't think that there is any 'right' you have that they will pay much attention to.
We already have the inalienable right to liberty, but forced masks.
We have 2A rights, but 80,000 gun control laws
We have the right to free speech, but anything people don't agree with is now "hate speech"
I could go on.....bottom line is, (they) don't plan on letting anyone opt-out. It wasn't created just to be (legally)'refused'.
The Australian government has legislated that out. You cannot send your kids to daycare, kindergarten, or school unless they are vaccinated. Not doing so due to conscience or religion is not accepted anymore.
This is going to be the biggest clusterfuck ever. Why can't the people who want a vax get one, then they're protected. Why can't the people who want to wear a mask wear one, then they're protected. Leave the people alone who don't. Either way, they still haven't isolated the virus. F'n Hoax.
Sure, and they have the right to require proof of vaccination for you to do (insert giant list of things here) without which life is completely impractical.
I think you missed my point. If HIPAA prevents this, why is it enforced for kids to get into schools?
Again, similar legal mechanisms will be used for adults, to deny people stuff based on COVID vaccine status. HIPAA will protect you just as much as it protects schoolkids from having to prove their vaccination status to get into school - not at all.
The government won't make you take it. They will take away businesses licences etc if they don't make their employees and customers have it. Schools will make it mandatory for kids in order for them to attend. Airlines and travel companies will lose their licenses if they don't make it mandatory for travellers.
The problem isn't saying no. The problem is what they refuse to give you if you say no (service, your job, etc). This is probably the most retarded graphic I've seen here. I would love to see the lame ass people who would actually try to say "MRC-5" and "LATROGENIC REACTION" like NPCs.
Fine. But without vaccination proof, you can basically sit in your house, but do nothing else, because almost all aspects of life will now require that proof.
This sounds like Facebook bs. Can anyone show me a Federal, State, Country, or Municipal law that saws you HAVE to vaccinate, or one more specifically that says any of these will get you out of it?
Yes, you have to be vaccinated to do certain things. No one can force a needle in you legally though.
Ehhhh, the hippocratic oath isn't legally binding so they don't actually have to adhere to it. Much like shitty police, a shitty doctor will do whatever they're paid to do.
This is fucking terrible. By this logic you should never take a medication (or accept any service) from a physician, as they all have side effects or complications. Can’t believe this garbage gets upvotes.
You have a right to autonomy and that is enough. You are under no legal obligation to be vaccinated. There is no need to complicate things.
The last vaccine caused an adverse reaction in my arm. I lost use of my right arms for months. Could lift more than five pounds. And my arm would lock up at random. That was six years ago. My arm still haven't recovered. Maybe 85% of what it use to be. I tired to hire a lawyer to file a case but it went no where. Not enough evidence.
Tell that to California Gov and they'll lough in your face.
They've removed ALL personal exemptions after measles "outbreak" in Disneyland. All children must be fully vaccinated to attend any private or public school in California.
Your "right to decline" in step 2... Is based on what exactly? I mean I don't *want *aborted fetal matter in my body, but is that a constitutional right? If so, which one? I don't remember seeing that written anywhere that I can think of right now. I'm trying.
As for step 3, just because your body might react to the injection as it would to a poison (which it is,) does not mean to "them" that you may refuse. Again what law clearly states it is my right to refuse said poison when they requiring it "for my own good"?
Yeah, I know we are only against the COVID vaccine, but you can bet your ass that the Left will lump us in the same group as the anti-vaxers in yet another effort to slander us, and coerce people into going along with the Plan.
Already had that conversation with a commie that's literally giddy about getting the covaids vaccine asap. I don't give a shit what any commie thinks, lump me in with anti-vaxxers, I don't care. They already slander everyone that doesn't agree with their bullshit, what's new?
"Latrogenic" is not a word. "iatrogenic" means any adverse medical condition caused by treatment. It does not just mean drug interaction. I'm certain the person who made this post has no formal medical education.
Came here to say this.
Reciprocal shots, they get to shot you, you get to shot them.
sure af don't live in chyna.
Southwest = California. I don't think he's from there.
Refusing it isn't the problem
Getting fired for refusing it is
Yeah, I'm afraid that's what's going to happen to many of us. I'm sure, where I work they'll be making this a mandatory issue for employment. There are other jobs of course but how many employers are going to insist their employees be vaccinated to "protect" those that DID submit?
Just going to lie and say I got it. HIPAA means you aren't required to disclose health information.
Show me the vax card. No card. No job.
That is a hipaa violation
Then what about pre-employment drug tests and physicals?
They are pass fail, the employer cannot request you to provide any medical details and there is no laws in any state that requires you to comply with any medical procedure in order to obtain employment.
Drug tests are not medical procedures, they are diagnostics to see if you are under the influence of mind altering drugs.
Physicals are not medical procedures, they are diagnostics to see if you are physically sound and capable to performing any manual labor or movement required by the employer within the job description.
A vaccine IS a procedure, an injection of a substance not naturally within ones body. This is protected under HIPAA and there is no law that any employer can refer to use it as a gatekeeper to employment.
Did travel nursing in Texas and the facilities I worked in required proof of tetanus vaccination. And while there may be no law regarding compliance, employers are at liberty to choose whom they employ with their business.
If you people think fucking hipaa is going to protect you your insane. They dont let kids go to school in many states if they don't have their vaccines. Why doesn't hipaa protect them?
The constitution says I have a right to free assembly, how come I'm stuck at home?
Look around. It ain't 2010 anymore. Its not even 2018. We have ZERO rights. Its over before many of you realized. You became slaves while you slept.
i don't think your employer isn't bound by HIPAA.
They are. Outside of a very few restricted instances, HIPAA requires your consent or a court order for the release of your medical records.
Even in cases where they only hire non-smokers, they have to test for tobacco themselves. Pretty sure they're not going to give you a potential double vaccination...
We'd get obvious warning of that, but it would be possible to write and pass something like that
You could just tell them due to HIPAA you don't have to disclose your medical information, and if they press, sue the shit out of them for violation of HIPAA and your personal privacy.
Fake vaccination proof. Like a fake id.
If the scanner comes up as non-vaccinated, tell them you identify as vaccinated and to stop being a bigot.
Active ingredient being luciferase. Mark of the beast
How about we get a voter ID card? If we pair it with a vaccine I might go for it. But that’ll never happen.
Well be using our vaccine card long before for voting before we get voter ID
That will only encourage and spread the acceptance of vaccine-ids
You think that globalist are that stupid!? https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/invisible-ink-could-reveal-whether-kids-have-been-vaccinated/
Go ahead and start collecting damning information on these companies now. If they do decide to fire people over this, you can destroy them (or at least inconvenience them) on the way out.
Same for my husband, a healthcare employee. Don't think they'll give him much choice.
We all make choices. Be proud of your convictions.
We have the right to decline by default. I don't think that there is any 'right' you have that they will pay much attention to.
We already have the inalienable right to liberty, but forced masks. We have 2A rights, but 80,000 gun control laws We have the right to free speech, but anything people don't agree with is now "hate speech"
I could go on.....bottom line is, (they) don't plan on letting anyone opt-out. It wasn't created just to be (legally)'refused'.
Nah, I like "fuck you" better.
BFYTW works too.
You legally decline a vaccine by saying go tuck yourself.
You can also just decline it for religious reasons.
As if we have religious rights anymore.
The Australian government has legislated that out. You cannot send your kids to daycare, kindergarten, or school unless they are vaccinated. Not doing so due to conscience or religion is not accepted anymore.
Australia doesn't have an analog to the First Amendment, do they?
No. We have no real rights. Convict nation.
Not surprising, as you aren't really even a free country.
No we aren't. Trick is to move out to the country. People aren't as neurotic and the government doesn't care as much. We will probably home school.
This is going to be the biggest clusterfuck ever. Why can't the people who want a vax get one, then they're protected. Why can't the people who want to wear a mask wear one, then they're protected. Leave the people alone who don't. Either way, they still haven't isolated the virus. F'n Hoax.
eh i dunno if i accept the premise there in step 1
Sure, and they have the right to require proof of vaccination for you to do (insert giant list of things here) without which life is completely impractical.
I tend to find many of the things people have told me life would be impractical without are not as necessary as I had been convinced.
Untrue. HIPAA is very clear on this; your medical records are nobody else's business.
Kids are refused enrollment in school if they don't have proof of vaccinations, and this has been the case for a very long time.
Similar legal mechanisms will be used for COVID vaccination status. It's "for the public good", after all!
Oh no, my kids can't go to communist indoctrination camp, the horror.
I think you missed my point. If HIPAA prevents this, why is it enforced for kids to get into schools?
Again, similar legal mechanisms will be used for adults, to deny people stuff based on COVID vaccine status. HIPAA will protect you just as much as it protects schoolkids from having to prove their vaccination status to get into school - not at all.
The government won't make you take it. They will take away businesses licences etc if they don't make their employees and customers have it. Schools will make it mandatory for kids in order for them to attend. Airlines and travel companies will lose their licenses if they don't make it mandatory for travellers.
But sure, the government won't pin you down.
That’s because we’re not getting the liability wavers for business . They don’t want to be sued so they’re putting up with the farce.
Give immunity and we get back to normal
Until they blow dart one into your neck.
LOOOL!
The problem isn't saying no. The problem is what they refuse to give you if you say no (service, your job, etc). This is probably the most retarded graphic I've seen here. I would love to see the lame ass people who would actually try to say "MRC-5" and "LATROGENIC REACTION" like NPCs.
Considered belligerent? No You try and forcefully inject me with something. I kill you. Simple.
Fine. But without vaccination proof, you can basically sit in your house, but do nothing else, because almost all aspects of life will now require that proof.
Only if you let them.
And how will you not let them?
I hope that's all it is. But I suspect government mandates will happen too. I hope I'm wrong and you're right!
That sounds totally reasonable! Let's see....
Government agent: "Okay, to get (whatever service) or renew your (whatever license), we just need to see your proof of COVID vaccination!"
Malsikcuf points firearm at government agent
Government agent: "I changed my mind, no proof is needed, sir! Have a nice day!"
Yeah, that'll work perfectly!
Just say NO like a big boy. It’s your body. Fuck them.
This is fucking retarded. Refusing a vaccine is not considered "belligerent."
Spez: doctors do not swear the Hippocratic Oath any longer. Haven't done that for decades.
Correct, there are lots of doctors that will Mengele your ass in a heartbeat.
Step 1: "Fuck off. I'm not taking it. Get near me with that and I'm jamming it up your ass."
Step 2: Start breaking arms. Jam needles up asses.
This is misleading. The"aborted foetal cells" are from a fetus aborted in the 1960s. The cells have been replicated in laboratories ever since.
Clones of The Dead
Zombie baby gonna eat you from the inside out!
Lol 🤦♀️
A baby was murdered for big pharma to profit off and supposedly to keep you healthy. That's a hard no for me, God gave me a pretty good immune system.
Not sure if you two are arguing semantics, religion, or philosophy. Either way you are both probably oversimplifying each other’s views.
This sounds like Facebook bs. Can anyone show me a Federal, State, Country, or Municipal law that saws you HAVE to vaccinate, or one more specifically that says any of these will get you out of it?
Yes, you have to be vaccinated to do certain things. No one can force a needle in you legally though.
I think the is pre-emptive based on what’s Going on in Europe. If Biden prevails it is just a matter of time pede.
That's "iatrogenic."
It's an I (eye), not an l (ell).
Smartmatic is making the LPT memes
I don't think all vaccines are cultured in cell lines from aborted fetal cells, I think many use cell lines from cancer cells removed from adults.
Also in animal cells such as pigs, cows, and primates.
This is correct. The aborted fetal cells are from the 1960s and have been replicated in laboratories ever since.
I think the term is iatrogenic (I not L)!
"I'm muslim, I am not to take it"
go on and watch them spin that one.
All of us that dont take it will get together and I bet we can come up with some kind of plan..wink wink
Ehhhh, the hippocratic oath isn't legally binding so they don't actually have to adhere to it. Much like shitty police, a shitty doctor will do whatever they're paid to do.
Ngl was gonna post a request thread for exactly this
WILL NOT COMPLY!
"honour"
Is this a non-US lawyer talk thing?
Hippocratic oath? Something something abortion, something something doctor assisted suicide. The oath means nothing.
This is fucking terrible. By this logic you should never take a medication (or accept any service) from a physician, as they all have side effects or complications. Can’t believe this garbage gets upvotes.
You have a right to autonomy and that is enough. You are under no legal obligation to be vaccinated. There is no need to complicate things.
Also it’s not fucking LATROGENIC is IATROGENIC. Come on.
The last vaccine caused an adverse reaction in my arm. I lost use of my right arms for months. Could lift more than five pounds. And my arm would lock up at random. That was six years ago. My arm still haven't recovered. Maybe 85% of what it use to be. I tired to hire a lawyer to file a case but it went no where. Not enough evidence.
Tell that to California Gov and they'll lough in your face.
They've removed ALL personal exemptions after measles "outbreak" in Disneyland. All children must be fully vaccinated to attend any private or public school in California.
Only MD's can give rare exemptions in rare cases.
Hippocratic Oath? LOL .. read: https://gizmodo.com/doctors-aren-t-actually-bound-by-the-hippocratic-oath-1465044222
This is all so Insane.. we're living in the Twilight Zone.🙄
Instructions unclear, shot some guy trying to stick me with a needle against my will instead.
Your "right to decline" in step 2... Is based on what exactly? I mean I don't *want *aborted fetal matter in my body, but is that a constitutional right? If so, which one? I don't remember seeing that written anywhere that I can think of right now. I'm trying.
As for step 3, just because your body might react to the injection as it would to a poison (which it is,) does not mean to "them" that you may refuse. Again what law clearly states it is my right to refuse said poison when they requiring it "for my own good"?
I mean you literally have the right to decline any medical procedure.
Their argument will be that they are requiring it for "public safety". It's like what would happen if you don't want to participate in a quarantine.
Or wear a mask...
my body my choice
How about,"Fuck off."
👍👍
Take it to trump and inform about the dangers and Bill Gates history with sterilization
Great, we are anti-vaxers now!
Yeah, I know we are only against the COVID vaccine, but you can bet your ass that the Left will lump us in the same group as the anti-vaxers in yet another effort to slander us, and coerce people into going along with the Plan.
Already had that conversation with a commie that's literally giddy about getting the covaids vaccine asap. I don't give a shit what any commie thinks, lump me in with anti-vaxxers, I don't care. They already slander everyone that doesn't agree with their bullshit, what's new?
"Latrogenic" is not a word. "iatrogenic" means any adverse medical condition caused by treatment. It does not just mean drug interaction. I'm certain the person who made this post has no formal medical education.
This post is cancer
Good to know.