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posted ago by God_Bless_America1 ago by God_Bless_America1 +4269 / -0

When are enough ppl going to push back and end this shit, once enough resist it will end

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tentigers99 28 points ago +30 / -2

The fking flu virus only has an 75-80% effective rate. THESE VACCINES ARE AT 95%!!!!!!!

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Fermented 29 points ago +29 / -0

Flu shot efficiency is around 30% to my knowledge, where did you hear 80%?

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tentigers99 21 points ago +21 / -0

You are mostly correct- cdc says 40-60%. Thanks

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tentigers99 8 points ago +8 / -0

I recently heard it on the Dan Bongino show. I trust his analysis but, I will now verify!

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hloblart 12 points ago +12 / -0

Might be the difference between effectiveness against the strains they were designed for, and effectiveness against whichever strain ends up being dominant in the year they were administered.

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MamaLlama4DJT2020 15 points ago +15 / -0

Some years they totally blow it. I worked with a guy who didn’t get it, one year his Doctor was really on his case about it and he replied “you and I both know they’re just guessing at it” and his Doc relented.

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bigchungus420 7 points ago +7 / -0

The influenza virus (orthomyxovirus) is a bit different structurally than coronavirus. The flu virus has segmented RNA and so it’s constantly producing new potent strains. Scientists and doctors are essentially making an educated guess when determining what will be the most common strains during flu season.

Coronavirus doesn’t have this segmentation- it’s just a regular RNA virus.

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DiscoverAFire 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Flu mutates a lot more than corona. So flu vaccines need to be updated a lot more than corona.

HIV mutates constantly, that's why they can't make a vaccine for it.

That said, there's already 4+ strains of covid kicking around, so don't expect that 95% number to last.

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BidenCrimeFamily 1 point ago +1 / -0

They will push out the COVID-21 soon though, a man made mutation

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Wexit-Delecto 2 points ago +2 / -0

They’re going to say it mutated because we didn’t reduce our carbon emissions enough. Or because someone cut down a tree.

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TheWatcherWhoWatches 3 points ago +3 / -0

Especially considering I have yet to see any evidence that they have isolated this particular virus.

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MakeLiberalsCryAgain 3 points ago +4 / -1

Effectiveness and efficacy are two different things. How these vaccines work in the real world is yet to be seen. Here's one article with a lot of interesting comments: https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4347/rapid-responses

Also, if I'm understanding this correctly, they only had 94 cases of Covid, out of a study group of 44000 people?! Maybe this is normal for vaccine trials, but it seems like an extremely low number of people from which to draw such important conclusions.

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BidenCrimeFamily 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah it's ridiculous...my only concern is seeing my 90+ old grandma, who even if I give her a cold or normal flu would just be terrible.