If any of you don't recall the last post, i went for an employment drug screening and left with a Disorderly Conduct: Language charge. I called her a cunt when she wouldn't give me a urinalysis until i pulled the mask over my nose.. Just left the pre-trial conference. They offered me 3 years probation and 4 months in jail. Set it to trial. Apparently in America words are violence and just like Britain, you can be sent to jail for it. As it is a misdemeanor they have denied my request for a jury trial. Looks like this pedes getting a show trial by some leftwing activist judge before I am summarily imprisoned. Can't believe I fought for this country. Our rights are being litigated away while current military think they are fighting to protect them. Fuck these commie pieces of shit!! Carry on the fight without me boys! I'll be with you in spirit!!
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Sat on a jury once, system is total bullshit. I never want anything to do with it. Guy gets thrown it jail for a year (probably with pedos and commies) because his alcoholic mother calls police for attempted murder. It was total bullshit, fell apart in 5 minutes (or 2 hours of court BS) But this guy had spent a year in jail, everybody had made a buck, it didn't appear the mother was to be charged with anything, god knows how much tax payer money pissed away, and peoples time wasted. Whats even worse! While we went to 'deliberate'! He cut a fucking deal! Because it was so obviously shit, the prosecution 'offered' to drop attempted murder to aggravated assault, and he took it!! These people are fucking sharks, the whole thing is a grift.
Yep. The DA’s give not a shit about justice. I’d suggest to anyone to take a field day to the courts to be in the gallery. Take your kids too so they can learn the system.
You got that right
It’s an issue when people are appointed to positions of power, instead of being eIe cted.....
I am sure the original juries when America was a little more homogeneous was a better option. I think the problem ends the day of society is people are really stupid and lack common sense, and what they just don't care.
I sat in on a jury where a Hispanic male was suing an elderly white man who was about 72 for the loss of the use of his thumb. The elderly man pulled out into intersection and this guy T-Boned him, but the insurance never found who's fault it was because their stories were different about where impact was and speed, and there was no camera footage. Hispanic male made up some what I consider to be sob story about losing his thumb not being able to play with his daughter or do his job from previous, living in pain and potentially having to go for thumb fusion surgery in the future. His lawyer came up with some crazy ass charge between 80 and 100k for pain and suffering, future loss of thumb.
Jury of nine I think four of us were I believe more common sense, four of the other ones were completely feeling horrible for the Hispanic male and his emotionally charged story, and one dude was just there basically said f*** it.
the four common sense of us (3 males, 1 business woman) saw through what we thought was his charade about his thumb basically I wanted to give him the cost of his medical expenses a few weeks off from work and then a lifetime subscription to ibuprofen and tylenol which is what one of the doctors recommended he just do for his pain rather than get a thumb fusion.
The other four, dare I say it, emotional and diverse group of women (2 black, 1 white grandma, and one Butch lesb type) who bought into the whole I can't even pick my daughter up anymore story wanted to give him somewhere in the range of at least 50 to 60k.
The other one dude who just said f*** it said what is the lawyer want give him that. Because he just wanted to go home.
Couldn't have a hung jury there so we all had to come to some sort of compromise eventually ended up with the guy getting something around $40k in damages. Which by my estimations was about 25k more than the guy deserved based on his actual expenses and sitting there watching him twiddle his thumbs with no issues while we sat there for two days. No grimace, no shaking his hands, no wringing or massaging. Didn't even cross his mind. Took three hours of our afternoon on judgement to argue and it was just so draining arguing with emotional people who refuse to try to use numbers, logic, and listen to those arguments from others and try to think critically. They just bought it hook line and sinker from the dudes lawyer.
I lost faith in municipal juries then. I hope a criminal jury might be better but I'mma guess not.
Wait... you impoverished an elderly man even when there was no way to determine who was at fault? That's horrible.
I dunno if he was well to do or not. I can tell you we argued and argued for hours. Like I said. Soul draining.
It was almost the end of the day. Compromise was the name of the game. We got some people to give, we gave a little.
To be honest he may have deserved it. He might have been an old prick. I don't know. All I know is I was not happy with what I saw as a juror.
He may have also been an upstanding man who was forced out on the street and died destitute from your actions. Unable to afford the medications he needed to keep him alive. Someone who doesn't understand why after a lifetime of hard work a jury took everything he had when he had done nothing wrong.
Originally you didn't need the DA to press criminal charges.
You can have a hung jury. The judges will push and push, but they can't force a juror to change their vote.
Criminal defense attorney here. Can confirm.
Jury nullification generally occurs when members of a criminal trial jury believe that a defendant is guilty, but choose to acquit the defendant anyway, because the jurors consider that the law itself is unjust, that the prosecutor has misapplied the law in the defendant's case, or that the potential punishment for breaking the law is too harsh.** Remember this if ever on a jury for a bullshit crime with no victim.
the process is the punishment.