Ah, first let me say I misread your comment before. I have no issue with Jews living in Israel and it being their homeland. I'm not some sort of "that's Palestinian land REEEE" leftist. My criticism for Israel is towards certain bad actors there, and their actions against my homeland.
But I'll bite. I believe Christ must return before we can have Christ's Millenia.
This is a profound aspect of the US psyche -- even more so for many Christians reading Revelation. The Jews have their part to play in what is meant to be, according to this belief. I was just pointing out how the prevalence of this belief among American conservatives has an effect on how Jews fit into our nation's worldview.
And frankly, Americans from the Pilgrims to the Founders lifted memes from the Jews. We're the Shining City on the Hill, singularly exceptional among nations and favored by God. That's all pretty damn Jewish, and you'd still have no shortage of mainline pedes who agree literally with it. And I'm wagering many of them would be the same pedes we see scorching the Jew-haters.
Sure you can. It's usually a matter of not feeding the trolls, for a start. If someone takes a policy criticism of Israel and makes it into an attack on Jews, then so be it. People are allowed to be stupid. Ignore them. When you argue back with, "Oh, we can criticize Muslims as a group but not Jews? What's the word for someone who's antisemitic to Christians?", you are practically confirming in many minds how your criticism was an attack on a group. Don't play that game.
I just have a question: do you believe Jesus will come back before or after we have a thousand years of heaven on earth?
Ah, first let me say I misread your comment before. I have no issue with Jews living in Israel and it being their homeland. I'm not some sort of "that's Palestinian land REEEE" leftist. My criticism for Israel is towards certain bad actors there, and their actions against my homeland.
But I'll bite. I believe Christ must return before we can have Christ's Millenia.
This is a profound aspect of the US psyche -- even more so for many Christians reading Revelation. The Jews have their part to play in what is meant to be, according to this belief. I was just pointing out how the prevalence of this belief among American conservatives has an effect on how Jews fit into our nation's worldview.
And frankly, Americans from the Pilgrims to the Founders lifted memes from the Jews. We're the Shining City on the Hill, singularly exceptional among nations and favored by God. That's all pretty damn Jewish, and you'd still have no shortage of mainline pedes who agree literally with it. And I'm wagering many of them would be the same pedes we see scorching the Jew-haters.
You are 100% right but unfortunately, I think that is why a real, nuanced discussion on the topic is impossible to have.
Sure you can. It's usually a matter of not feeding the trolls, for a start. If someone takes a policy criticism of Israel and makes it into an attack on Jews, then so be it. People are allowed to be stupid. Ignore them. When you argue back with, "Oh, we can criticize Muslims as a group but not Jews? What's the word for someone who's antisemitic to Christians?", you are practically confirming in many minds how your criticism was an attack on a group. Don't play that game.