Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna's are both the mRNA vaccines. They don't work by changing your DNA, but instead get taken up by cells and carry instructions to produce the covid spike protein. Not producing the whole virus, just its defining feature. The idea is that the immune system will learn to kill cells producing and carrying that particular protein as being defective or malevolent instead of the default of 'probably harmless'. Being a jab in the arm, that should be mostly muscle cells that are replaced regularly anyways.
If it works as intended, and it's manufactured correctly and consistently, it could be safer and have fewer side effects than traditional vaccine techniques as it carries no self-replication capability. It's also cutting edge technology without long-term proof of safety. What happens if manufacturing goes bad or cold storage isn't maintained properly just isn't well known yet. Keeping it away from children and those who may still have children is just plain prudent. Especially since those age groups have astronomical survival rates already.
AstraZeneca's is a more traditional vaccine. They use a rhinovirus most commonly found in chimpanzees, but it's modified to also carry the spike protein. Common cold virus wearing a covid costume. It's more likely to have immediate side effects (put you on your ass for a couple days) since it's a real live virus, but have long term effects in line with a regular cold -- basically none. Still has room for manufacturing problems and unknown long-term side effects too, but being based on older approaches, it's much less likely.
It's exceedingly recently that they found out how to get custom mRNA into a cell without setting off all the immune system alarms - a scant handful of years. In theory, a vaccine is a very rudimentary application of the technique.
I personally don't think it's extremely likely that we're going to get in much trouble from this particular iteration (only a hunch, take it with all the grains of salt you can find), but a successful implementation of custom mRNA really is opening the Pandora's box of bioscience.
We may witnessing the next steam engine in terms of impact.
Bro it's fine if you want to be wary of what you're doing but your 4th grade understanding and oversimplification of biomedicine to spread fearporn and making it sound like you're getting a mutagenic injection of FEV and are going to turn into a Super Mutant is retarded.
I know we collectively don't see people with college degrees as 'intellectual betters', but this shit is insanely complicated and there is literally no way you are probably actually capable of understanding what actually is happening, much less be able to sum it up in a thirteen-word sentence.
This vaguely reminds me of when I remember "mom" groups were claiming Febreze would kill your pets because 'It's one molecule away from being cyanide!'... like, one, that isn't what "molecule" means, but two, even if you meant 'atom', well, fucking oxygen is one atom away from being carbon dioxide and instead of allowing you to live, will suffocate you.
Shut up bigot and take your infertilizing mercury water. You don't want to kill grandma, do you?
“You don’t want to kill grandma, do you?”
Same side that attacked grandma for standing up to ANTIFA and voting for Trump
Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna's are both the mRNA vaccines. They don't work by changing your DNA, but instead get taken up by cells and carry instructions to produce the covid spike protein. Not producing the whole virus, just its defining feature. The idea is that the immune system will learn to kill cells producing and carrying that particular protein as being defective or malevolent instead of the default of 'probably harmless'. Being a jab in the arm, that should be mostly muscle cells that are replaced regularly anyways.
If it works as intended, and it's manufactured correctly and consistently, it could be safer and have fewer side effects than traditional vaccine techniques as it carries no self-replication capability. It's also cutting edge technology without long-term proof of safety. What happens if manufacturing goes bad or cold storage isn't maintained properly just isn't well known yet. Keeping it away from children and those who may still have children is just plain prudent. Especially since those age groups have astronomical survival rates already.
AstraZeneca's is a more traditional vaccine. They use a rhinovirus most commonly found in chimpanzees, but it's modified to also carry the spike protein. Common cold virus wearing a covid costume. It's more likely to have immediate side effects (put you on your ass for a couple days) since it's a real live virus, but have long term effects in line with a regular cold -- basically none. Still has room for manufacturing problems and unknown long-term side effects too, but being based on older approaches, it's much less likely.
It's exceedingly recently that they found out how to get custom mRNA into a cell without setting off all the immune system alarms - a scant handful of years. In theory, a vaccine is a very rudimentary application of the technique.
I personally don't think it's extremely likely that we're going to get in much trouble from this particular iteration (only a hunch, take it with all the grains of salt you can find), but a successful implementation of custom mRNA really is opening the Pandora's box of bioscience.
We may witnessing the next steam engine in terms of impact.
Bro it's fine if you want to be wary of what you're doing but your 4th grade understanding and oversimplification of biomedicine to spread fearporn and making it sound like you're getting a mutagenic injection of FEV and are going to turn into a Super Mutant is retarded.
I know we collectively don't see people with college degrees as 'intellectual betters', but this shit is insanely complicated and there is literally no way you are probably actually capable of understanding what actually is happening, much less be able to sum it up in a thirteen-word sentence.
This vaguely reminds me of when I remember "mom" groups were claiming Febreze would kill your pets because 'It's one molecule away from being cyanide!'... like, one, that isn't what "molecule" means, but two, even if you meant 'atom', well, fucking oxygen is one atom away from being carbon dioxide and instead of allowing you to live, will suffocate you.