I fail to see how the '09 Ft. Hood shooting has anything to do with leadership getting fired 11 years after it for being shitty leadership and permitting a toxic work culture that led to people getting killed or sexually assaulted.
i would doubt any of the officers involved in the ft. shooting are still there, prob. long gone/retired, 11 years later. i think this is more about the sexual assault/murder/suicides that have been going on there for a while.
I was there for that. I can't really express how much it pissed me off to read about Obama's view of the shooting. The guy had clearly been radicalized and was working as an enemy operative.
Given the turnover churn rate in the military, between leaving the service, new people entering and reassignments every two years, that is ancient history with nothing to do with today's problems at Ft. Hood.
There is a shit ton of gang members that joined the military after 911. They clearly are making it easy for this shit to go on the more promotions they got and longer they are in. Corruption breeds corruption.
I agree about the ISIS and anti-American values etc. but this is more about ass-covering, pension covering and COWARDICE on the part of Army officers. They need to be dealt with HARSHLY.
Possibly discharged under Other Than Dishonorable Conditions.
One would suspect Dishonorable discharge for the reasons given, but Fake News propaganda outlet CBS saying military members are being "fired" is just lazy, and false altogether.
I have sometimes wondered how much of Ft. Hood's problems have to do with volume. They are the largest active duty post, so they have the most Soldiers. More Soldiers means more problems.
I've been at Ft. Hood when most of the big divisions and brigades are deployed: 1st Cav, 4th ID, 3rd ACR. It's actually kind of nice when most of the troop population is downrange. The DUI counter by the gate actually gets above 10.
EDIT: Sorry, I just remembered it's a traffic fatality counter, not a DUI counter.
This has nothing to do with ISIS or muslims and everything to do with horrible leadership at a command where murder, missing persons cases, suicides and service members going AWOL is rampant.
I heard stories years ago about women being assaulted and the leadership covering for the perps. Of course I don't believe in the sexes mixing in the military, but that is another question. Meanwhile my Marine son tells me they don't tolerate anything to a point that they are almost afraid to talk to female Marines in case if anything could be taken wrong. In any large organization some people will be bad and there have to be systems in place to effectively deal with it
What does shitty leadership that permits shitty behavior and criminality have to do with ISIS or Anti-Americanism?
I fail to see how the '09 Ft. Hood shooting has anything to do with leadership getting fired 11 years after it for being shitty leadership and permitting a toxic work culture that led to people getting killed or sexually assaulted.
i would doubt any of the officers involved in the ft. shooting are still there, prob. long gone/retired, 11 years later. i think this is more about the sexual assault/murder/suicides that have been going on there for a while.
That's what I'm getting at.
Don't forget that they busted up a pedo trafficking ring there just a few months ago.
I was there for that. I can't really express how much it pissed me off to read about Obama's view of the shooting. The guy had clearly been radicalized and was working as an enemy operative.
Given the turnover churn rate in the military, between leaving the service, new people entering and reassignments every two years, that is ancient history with nothing to do with today's problems at Ft. Hood.
Ft Hood has had a long term toxic culture.
There is a shit ton of gang members that joined the military after 911. They clearly are making it easy for this shit to go on the more promotions they got and longer they are in. Corruption breeds corruption.
Any soldier who has a spouse or boyfriend or girlfriend who is BLM or Antifa needs to be investigated.
I agree about the ISIS and anti-American values etc. but this is more about ass-covering, pension covering and COWARDICE on the part of Army officers. They need to be dealt with HARSHLY.
Wait- they're firing the ones that committed suicide?
Firing leaders who are responsible for poor morale
LOL
Is "firing" a military term for "We won't dishonorably discharge you, but we won't call it an honorable discharge either" ?
Other than honorable discharge
Possibly discharged under Other Than Dishonorable Conditions.
One would suspect Dishonorable discharge for the reasons given, but Fake News propaganda outlet CBS saying military members are being "fired" is just lazy, and false altogether.
The journalist could have been dumb and just said fired
Well, it could be "relieved for cause" and not discharged. Who knows what fake news is reporting, since they can't get terminology right.
Holy Moly this is YUGE - FT Hood becoming uncucked just as Texas sues for Victory or Death!
I have sometimes wondered how much of Ft. Hood's problems have to do with volume. They are the largest active duty post, so they have the most Soldiers. More Soldiers means more problems.
I've been at Ft. Hood when most of the big divisions and brigades are deployed: 1st Cav, 4th ID, 3rd ACR. It's actually kind of nice when most of the troop population is downrange. The DUI counter by the gate actually gets above 10.
EDIT: Sorry, I just remembered it's a traffic fatality counter, not a DUI counter.
they just found a soldier HEAD from Ft. Hood who went out with 6 other soldiers and never came back. the rest of his body is still missing.
and finding dead bodies
Looks like much of it happened in my old unit (3rd ACR). It was a mess back then and it's gotten worse.
Murder? What?!
This has nothing to do with ISIS or muslims and everything to do with horrible leadership at a command where murder, missing persons cases, suicides and service members going AWOL is rampant.
I heard stories years ago about women being assaulted and the leadership covering for the perps. Of course I don't believe in the sexes mixing in the military, but that is another question. Meanwhile my Marine son tells me they don't tolerate anything to a point that they are almost afraid to talk to female Marines in case if anything could be taken wrong. In any large organization some people will be bad and there have to be systems in place to effectively deal with it
I am a military mom and have heard rumors about that base for years, about time it got cleaned up.