Because Pope Francis is a communist plant. Evil fucker. I’m Catholic, and I knew RIGHT AWAY that there was something fishy about Pope Benedict “resigning” and then this Jesuit upstart comes in and starts talking about global warming and sticking his nose in politics...
Wake up, you're no better than the worst of liberals. "Catholicism maintains that the pope is infallible, incapable of error, when he teaches a doctrine on faith or morals to the universal Church in his unique office as supreme head. When the pope asserts his official authority in matters of faith and morals to the whole church, the Holy Spirit guards him from error." Why don't you defend all the disgusting pagan rituals that infiltrated the Catholic church?
"Catholicism created Social Justice Theory and spread Socialism around the world. "
Hahah the number one enemy for socialist/commies has always been the Catholic church you freaking troll. Catholics have been the first to fight them look at the Cristero War in Mexico and Spanish Civil War.
"America is a protestant nation, that's why we are capitalist and free."
The most cucked liberal countries in Europe are all protestant from England to Sweden
You could even go back further. Catholics fought the proto-commies, the French Revolutionaries. The Vendee Catholics rose up against them. It was also in the early part of the 20th century that Our Lady Of Fatima appeared in Portugal and soon after, the Portuguese rose up against the commies that had been in charge in Portugal. In fact, one of the teachings of the Church is that "no one can be a sincere socialist and a true Catholic." That statement from sixgissimo anno has been on the masthead of the United States' oldest Catholic publication - the Wanderer - for over 100 years.
Catholicism didn't give us Liberation Theology. Communists invented Liberation Theology and inserted into all Denominations in the U.S. That's why most mainstream Protestant denominations are but a shell of what they once were. They have rejected the Biblical teachings on fornication, divorce/remarriage, abortion, abortifacients, contraceptives and modesty.
Preach it.
What’s annoying is that people will enthusiastically talk about the deep state in American Government and bureaucracy (And extending globally), then suddenly balk at the idea that the Church is dealing with the same attack - like it could only be a homogenous monolith.
We’ve been dealing with traitors to the Faith, in the ranks, since the very beginning, right up through when Europe was being sold out to the Moslem armies by treachery and up through the revolts and revolutions that degraded morals and glorified murderous psychopaths, on up to now. The wheat and the tares get sorted at the end, but in the meantime, we are in a battle, and some who claim our colors are there to betray us and God, not assist.
The Church has a checkered past, to be sure, as all human-run organizations are. I bet if we check in on the Protestant groups in a thousand years or so their whiter than white souls will be a little more human.
Catholic Social Justice is completely different from SJW Social Justice. Communism is literally against Catholic Teaching. One cannot both claim to be Catholic and espouse Marxist beliefs.
She had a human father did she not? Is Jesus' birth not significant because he had no human father? Are you saying that Jesus had to be born without a human father to attain perfection but Mary didn't because she was already sinless?
If she's so special, why does she have no books in Bible and why is she mentioned in only a small part of the Gospel?
Is Mary even mentioned outside the first four books of the New Testament?
Of course they're relevant. There are many mysteries in the Bible that people debate about now still but one thing for certain is that the Bible does not teach us to pray to Mary or that there are any patron saints that should be prayed to. In fact, quite the opposite in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd commandments.
Any diversion of attention from the Trinity is a just that: a diversion.
Mary, was full of Grace, according to the archangel Gabriel. One who sins is not full of grace. Do you think Gabriel lied? Do you think the mother of God was just his incubation suitcase and not a singular instance of complete holiness among all human beings? Mary is the Ark of the Covenant prefigured in the OT. The Ark, held the staff of Aaron symbolizing priesthood, the ten commandments which is the law of God, The bread (manna) that came down from heaven while the Jews wondered in the desert after leaving Egypt. Jesus is the Priest of God who offers himself as a sacrifice for our sins thus he is what Aaron's staff prefigured. The Ten Commandmants are the laws of God and Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Jesus said he is the "Bread of Life" and to do this as a memorial to him which Catholics do at every single Mass every day - re-enact the Last Supper in the Eucharistic Liturgy. All these things, Mary had inside her when she carried Jesus Christ our Lord. Mary is the Ark of the Covenant. She is a human singularity.
God, who created both Adam and Eve sinless and full of virtue, “immaculately conceived” - created another such human who would birth Christ into the world. Christ - sinless by His very nature, deserved a mother who was at least the equal of Eve in virtue, and made sinless by the fullness of grace by which God held her up. He gave her the fullness of virtue. His prerogative and entirely fitting.
Mary's parents were St. Joachim and St. Anne. So of course, she was fully human and just a creature. However, among creatures, she was the mother of God and therefore preserved from all sin for the purpose of the incarnation. God could raise up children of Abraham from stones says John the Baptism. Do you not believe he could make his own mother "full of grace"?
Become a non-denominational Christian like so many of us have become. The Roman Catholic Church was used since its inception to control Christians by the Roman government.
The Roman Emperors were literally hunting down and killing Christians. To say that RCC was working for the Roman government is as dumb as those people who say that the USA and USSR were working together during the Cold War to oppress third world nations.
LMAO. Who the fuck do you think gave legitimacy to the RCC? HINT: a Roman Emperor. Then they injected a bunch of pagan shit into Christianity, such as praying to Mary (HINT: If you actually read the bible, she's barely brought up.) Almost every 'Catholic' I know, including family members.. believe in Abortion and vote Democrat. "Most Roman Catholic beliefs and practices regarding Mary are completely absent from the Bible. Where did those beliefs come from? The Roman Catholic view of Mary has far more in common with the Isis mother-goddess religion of Egypt than it does with anything taught in the New Testament. Interestingly, the first hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship." ... "Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well." .. "The idea that the Roman bishop is the vicar of Christ, the supreme leader of the Christian Church, is utterly foreign to the Word of God. The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, again, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. After the western half of the Roman Empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors—Pontifex Maximus."
I am not arguing that the Popes didn't replace emperors or that the RCC didn't replace the entirety of Rome for that matter. It was largely the convents and monestaries that were negotiating with barbarians in the wake of Rome's fall. Constantine did make Christianity one of the religions of the Roman Empire but that was pretty late in the game and after 200 some years of persecution against Christians.
The early Christians prayed to saints. We know this because of stories like St. Perpetua, St. Agatha, St. Lucy, St. Peter and St.Andrew etc. In the catacombs of Rome where Christians held Mass during the Roman persecutions, it's laden with imaged of saints and their identifiable symbols.
Origen was a father of the Church but he wasn't a cult member of Isis. btw, the cult of Isis was long gone by the time monastic life and Christianity became widespread in Egypt. There's St. Anthanasius, St. Anthony the Great, St. Jerome and many many others. Far from Egypt being a bastion of paganism, Egypt was the flowering of the Church.
Mary is in Genesis 3:15 right up to Revelations with the woman clothed with the sun with the stars around her head and the earth at her feet. In fact, if you didn't hate the mother of God so much, you'd realize, Mary is in every single book in the Bible.
What are you even arguing then? I don't care that early Christians prayed to saints. How does that in any way mean they were correct? NO WHERE in Scripture does it say to pray to dead saints. NO WHERE in Scripture does it say that people in Heaven will pray for people on earth. THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR, and it's not your Catholic priest, Mary, or any of your saints.
Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
You said "The Roman Emperors were literally hunting down and killing Christians. To say that RCC was working for the Roman government is as dumb as those people who say that the USA and USSR were working together during the Cold War to oppress third world nations." except the Roman Catholic Church was LITERALLY founded by a Roman Emperor who 'converted' for political reasons. In fact, the Roman Catholic Church PERSECUTED other Christians.
ACCORDING TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH:
The Catholic church is the one true church
CCC 2105 "The duty of offering God genuine worship concerns man both individually and socially. This is 'the traditional Catholic teaching on the moral duty of individuals and societies toward the true religion and the one Church of Christ.' By constantly evangelizing men, the Church works toward enabling them 'to infuse the Christian spirit into the mentality and mores, laws and structures of the communities in which [they] live.' The social duty of Christians is to respect and awaken in each man the love of the true and the good. It requires them to make known the worship of the one true religion which subsists in the Catholic and apostolic Church. Christians are called to be the light of the world. Thus, the Church shows forth the kingship of Christ over all creation and in particular over human societies."
The Catholic Church is Infallible
CCC 2035, "The supreme degree of participation in the authority of Christ is ensured by the charism of infallibility. This infallibility extends as far as does the deposit of divine Revelation; it also extends to all those elements of doctrine, including morals, without which the saving truths of the faith cannot be preserved, explained, or observed."
Only the Roman Catholic Church has authority to interpret Scripture
CCC 100, "The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him."
The Pope is the head of the church and has the authority of Christ
CCC 2034, "The Roman Pontiff and the bishops are 'authentic teachers, that is, teachers endowed with the authority of Christ, who preach the faith to the people entrusted to them, the faith to be believed and put into practice.' The ordinary and universal Magisterium of the Pope and the bishops in communion with him teach the faithful the truth to believe, the charity to practice, the beatitude to hope for."
The Roman Catholic Church is necessary for salvation
CCC 846, "How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it."
Based on the church's own laws, Pope Francis is right and cannot be wrong with his interpretations of Scripture. Pope Francis says that you do not have to believe in God or Jesus to go to Heaven. Pope Francis says you should not try to convert non-believers. He even says Trump is not a Christian. The CCP gives the Vatican church of $2 billion a year to pay off the Vatican for its silence. Absolutely disgusting. You've been misled by EVIL.
Why do you people even call your priests "Father"? That's absolutely disgusting alone and REEKS of blasphemy. Christians in the first century NEVER called their leaders "father". Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
Matthew 6:7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
YET you probably got your Rosary beads and pray your 15 sets of 10 consecutive hail marys? Or sorry- I guess it's 20 sets now after Pope John Paul added them. IT'S ALL PAGAN EVIL THAT INFILTRATED.
DO some more RESEARCH. You are MISLED if you support this adulterated pagan garbage.
The Canon of the Bible wasn't set until 400 AD when St. Jerome finished the Vulgate.
It's the RCC that gave us the Bible.
Regarding saints, the very first creeds of the Church talked about the Communion of Saints, and that communion has always been 1) The Church Militant composed of the living on Earth. 2) The Church suffering in Purgatory and 3) The Church Triumphant in Heaven, that is, the saints of heaven. The Communion of Saints is a community first and foremost and all members of the community of saints can help each other but the Church Triumphant doesn't need help and the Church suffering has already had their judgement which means the people who needs help are the living - the Church Militant. That is why we pray to saints. The various situations they faced in life and/or the various causes the Catholic Church has deemed for them to be linked to, make them intercessors for our petitions.
It is natural for us to use intercessors in our normal daily life on Earth. We do it all the time. We may appeal to a family member to help out with problem or with a mutual friend in some sort of need. The communion of saints is basically the same thing but on the supernatural plain. If there's one thing we know about God's creation is that it is complex and God could do everything just by fiat and frankly, in one instant if God so wished, but he doesn't. He takes time and uses many mediated causes. One of those mediated causes can be Saints.
Also, there's nothing in the Bible that directly says the Trinity either. Moreover, there's nowhere in the Bible that it says the Bible is the ultimate authority and sole authority regarding Christianity. You'd think if the Christian Bible was to be like the Koran, that is, the absolute literal word of God and sole and only necessary authority, the Bible would say it like the Koran does. The Bible doesn't say that though. Far from it. When we read the NT letters, what we find is that there's a structure to the early Church with leaders and leaders on top of those leaders and ultimately, there is Peter. Peter makes the decision via a dream that the Jewish dietary laws can be abrogated even when all the other Apostles believe Christians have to follow Judaic dietary laws. (Paul wasn't Judas Iscariot's replacement. Mathias was.) The structure and the hierarchy of the RCC predated the canon of the Bible. In fact, we see the structure in ACTS when the Apostles meet to address the dietary laws.
You certainly know a lot about Catholicism or you have good copypasta.
Biblereasons isn't representing what the Catholic Church teaches. If you want it explained simply from the horse's mouth, go to a source like Catholic Answers at Catholic.com. Biblereasons is to Catholicism like CNN is to Trump.
I haven't darkened the doors or dropped a dime in the collection plate since Francis made his anti-American comments a few years back. He is evil incarnate.
The Catholic Church put together the Bible in the middle of the fourth century. There are many teachings that Protestants find unbiblical but are actually Catholic traditions during those first 330 years passed down from the apostles and the church fathers.
I don't think you know what that word means. Edit, technically correct. He is in place of another Pope. Not anti-pope as in the devil. But as B16 is still alive.
I'm better informed than most. But you don't need a doctorate in medieval church history to see what's plain to anyone. Two bishops in white, living in the Vatican, both answering to "pope". Obviously, one is a pretender, and I know who my money is on.
Y’all need to read “Infiltration”. The communist takeover of the Catholic Church began over a century ago. Hell, the Pope that ushered in Vatican II went to Chicago to study under Saul Alinsky.
Is word on fire (the podcast) based and Francis-pilled? It seems like it might be due to what it covers and declines to cover. I'm not catholic, but some of the catholic scholarship from WOF ends up seeming more concrete than what I got from an evangelical church years ago.
Y’all need to read “Infiltration”. The communist takeover of the Catholic Church began over a century ago. Hell, the Pope that ushered in Vatican II went to Chicago to study under Saul Alinsky.
He is as corrupt as the popes in the Middle Ages when they sold "indulgences." He is a Communist...he has sold his soul to the globalist, godless elite who want to promote abortion and the LGBT agenda.
I actually have a working theory that Bergoglio is a descendant of Rodrigo Borgia, who, for those that don't know Renaissance history (or didn't play Assassin's Creed) was an incredibly controversial and corrupt Pope as well.
That's what I wonder. Did China go to cash a Vatican check and it bounced? Is someone stopping or have control over the Vatican piggy bank? Pissed off the communist?
Robert Cardinal Sarah is pretty great from what I hear. He's one of several clergymen from Africa who are strongly Catholic, very conservative, none of this socialist garbage.
My dad, who is a lifelong Methodist is a huge fan of Cardinal Sarah and read several of his books. If that gives you any sort of measure of how qualified Sarah is to be Pope and how well he can speak to the Christian world as a whole.
Technically, the Bible describes the Synagogue of Satan as "... those who say they are Jews and are not..." There is only one group in the world that fits this description. Is the deep church likely the Whore of Babylon described in Revelation? Could be.
Q: Who is the Synagogue of Satan?
A: See Rev 2:9, Rev 3:9, Rom 2:28-29
The deep church is literally just a bunch of communist faggots who infiltrated after requirements for becoming a priest were loosened after Vatican II.
He has always been a Socialist, came out of Argentina and the movement of Liberation Theology. No surprise where he stands. I too am Catholic and get so angry at what he has done in relation to China. Putz!
I am an old woman, well, in my 60s, Jesuit educated with a degree in Theology. I understand the desire to help the poor of the world but as you said, it has turned into a disease. I am the granddaughter of two sets of immigrant grandparents. Two from eastern Europe. Growing up communism was the boogey man in the closet, and the truth of it was drilled into our heads. I just don't get it. Sorry, to be wordy in my response. thanks for writing. cheers!
I don't usually comment, but as I look at this thread, lurking, I am struck by something. I am a proud Traditional Catholic. I notice that many have questions on church teaching. I think those will find fisheaters. com would be a great help.
As for this pope... well, he is a heretic. Pope PiusX called socialism and communism demonic, if I'm not mistaken.
I converted to Catholism from the Methodist church 21 years ago. 8 children, stay at home homeschooling wife. I teach my sons to be gentlemen and my daughters modest and I have never regretted my decision. Hope this helps.
Yeah, the Church explicitly condemns socialism and Marxism. Ive tried to give Francis the benefit of the doubt, but its become clear that he serves China, not the Church.
Y’all need to read “Infiltration”. The communist takeover of the Catholic Church began over a century ago. Hell, the Pope that ushered in Vatican II went to Chicago to study under Saul Alinsky.
That and the Chinese Communist Churches have had to replace the ten commandments with CCP values on the sides of the altar. In Western Churches, we usually have a Mary side and a Joseph side to the left and right of the Altar. In far east Asian Catholic Churches, they often have a Ten Commandments and 8 Beatitudes sides to their altars. The Chinese churches have been forced to take down those words and replace them with "Chinese values" and if they don't, the army bulldozes the Church.
Probably too busy licking some Muslim rat's feet or dancing with a gay dude...once we re-take the US, it'll be time to re-evaluate our relationship with the Vaticunts
The pope is a communist, plain and simple. I’m not a catholic or religious by any means, but even I can see he’s very anti catholic tradition. And he’s silent on the pedophilia rampant in the churches, and silent on the human rights atrocities committed by dictatorships worldwide. But he’ll quickly denounce Cheeto Hitler as Cheeto-y and Hitlerish
As someone who has half my family living in Argentina...Pope Francis can go fuck himself. From what I have heard, he is not welcome back in Argentina, ever.
The answer to the age old question "Is the Pope Catholic?" used to be an absolute yes. Nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if people are actually asking that question for real.
Because Pope Francis is a communist plant. Evil fucker. I’m Catholic, and I knew RIGHT AWAY that there was something fishy about Pope Benedict “resigning” and then this Jesuit upstart comes in and starts talking about global warming and sticking his nose in politics...
It's not the commies but the power behind the commies. They all have the same boss.
You forgot DOJ.
Same boss, same retirement plan.
Marx was a self-avowed satanist.
He is a fraud and an agent of Satan.
The Catholic Church helped hitler and the gang escape to South America!
Some priest who did that doesnt equal the whole church lol
Significant because pope francis is from Argentina.
You understand that people who helped the nazis were a couple of priests like Krunoslav Draganovic and Alois Hudal and not the whole church right?
According to Catholicism's own doctrine, the church and the pope is infallible so that proves how much it's truly rooted in Evil.
Wake up, you're no better than the worst of liberals. "Catholicism maintains that the pope is infallible, incapable of error, when he teaches a doctrine on faith or morals to the universal Church in his unique office as supreme head. When the pope asserts his official authority in matters of faith and morals to the whole church, the Holy Spirit guards him from error." Why don't you defend all the disgusting pagan rituals that infiltrated the Catholic church?
"Catholicism created Social Justice Theory and spread Socialism around the world. "
Hahah the number one enemy for socialist/commies has always been the Catholic church you freaking troll. Catholics have been the first to fight them look at the Cristero War in Mexico and Spanish Civil War.
"America is a protestant nation, that's why we are capitalist and free."
The most cucked liberal countries in Europe are all protestant from England to Sweden
You could even go back further. Catholics fought the proto-commies, the French Revolutionaries. The Vendee Catholics rose up against them. It was also in the early part of the 20th century that Our Lady Of Fatima appeared in Portugal and soon after, the Portuguese rose up against the commies that had been in charge in Portugal. In fact, one of the teachings of the Church is that "no one can be a sincere socialist and a true Catholic." That statement from sixgissimo anno has been on the masthead of the United States' oldest Catholic publication - the Wanderer - for over 100 years.
Catholicism didn't give us Liberation Theology. Communists invented Liberation Theology and inserted into all Denominations in the U.S. That's why most mainstream Protestant denominations are but a shell of what they once were. They have rejected the Biblical teachings on fornication, divorce/remarriage, abortion, abortifacients, contraceptives and modesty.
Preach it. What’s annoying is that people will enthusiastically talk about the deep state in American Government and bureaucracy (And extending globally), then suddenly balk at the idea that the Church is dealing with the same attack - like it could only be a homogenous monolith.
We’ve been dealing with traitors to the Faith, in the ranks, since the very beginning, right up through when Europe was being sold out to the Moslem armies by treachery and up through the revolts and revolutions that degraded morals and glorified murderous psychopaths, on up to now. The wheat and the tares get sorted at the end, but in the meantime, we are in a battle, and some who claim our colors are there to betray us and God, not assist.
Archbishop Vigano literally calls it the “deep church” just like Trump calls it the deep state.
Very true
Infiltration Bella Dodd Church militant dot com.
Don't feed the troll
Pope Leo 13 in the late 19th century would have a problem with everything you just said.
Yeah, but where is he now?
Heaven.
Bye faggot.
Go Pagan-LARP elsewhere
The Church has a checkered past, to be sure, as all human-run organizations are. I bet if we check in on the Protestant groups in a thousand years or so their whiter than white souls will be a little more human.
They'll be extinct with the exception of Mormons.
Rephrase for clarity please I don't get it
Catholic Social Justice is completely different from SJW Social Justice. Communism is literally against Catholic Teaching. One cannot both claim to be Catholic and espouse Marxist beliefs.
You need some archbishop Fulton Sheen in your life. Dude HATED socialism/communism https://youtu.be/w5iUYQ_yF_M
So they said that all faiths can be practiced here as a way to stop Catholics? What kind of backwards logic is that?
Pope John Paul II knew how to stand up to communists. The KGB actually tried to kill him because was such a thorn in the side of the USSR.
Wait, was that the guy that Pope John Paul II then visited in prison?
He certainly isnt reading Catholic Doctrine either. The Church explicitly condems socialism as an ideology of envy.
Probably the one with the inverted cross.
She had a human father did she not? Is Jesus' birth not significant because he had no human father? Are you saying that Jesus had to be born without a human father to attain perfection but Mary didn't because she was already sinless?
If she's so special, why does she have no books in Bible and why is she mentioned in only a small part of the Gospel?
Is Mary even mentioned outside the first four books of the New Testament?
Of course they're relevant. There are many mysteries in the Bible that people debate about now still but one thing for certain is that the Bible does not teach us to pray to Mary or that there are any patron saints that should be prayed to. In fact, quite the opposite in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd commandments.
Any diversion of attention from the Trinity is a just that: a diversion.
Mary, was full of Grace, according to the archangel Gabriel. One who sins is not full of grace. Do you think Gabriel lied? Do you think the mother of God was just his incubation suitcase and not a singular instance of complete holiness among all human beings? Mary is the Ark of the Covenant prefigured in the OT. The Ark, held the staff of Aaron symbolizing priesthood, the ten commandments which is the law of God, The bread (manna) that came down from heaven while the Jews wondered in the desert after leaving Egypt. Jesus is the Priest of God who offers himself as a sacrifice for our sins thus he is what Aaron's staff prefigured. The Ten Commandmants are the laws of God and Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. Jesus said he is the "Bread of Life" and to do this as a memorial to him which Catholics do at every single Mass every day - re-enact the Last Supper in the Eucharistic Liturgy. All these things, Mary had inside her when she carried Jesus Christ our Lord. Mary is the Ark of the Covenant. She is a human singularity.
God, who created both Adam and Eve sinless and full of virtue, “immaculately conceived” - created another such human who would birth Christ into the world. Christ - sinless by His very nature, deserved a mother who was at least the equal of Eve in virtue, and made sinless by the fullness of grace by which God held her up. He gave her the fullness of virtue. His prerogative and entirely fitting.
David, Jesse and Joseph weren't pregnant with Jesus for nine months. Mary was pregnant with God. That's why Mary is the Ark of the covenant.
Mary had a human father, therefore, a sinner needing saving. I'm sorry this is hard for you to accept.
Mary's parents were St. Joachim and St. Anne. So of course, she was fully human and just a creature. However, among creatures, she was the mother of God and therefore preserved from all sin for the purpose of the incarnation. God could raise up children of Abraham from stones says John the Baptism. Do you not believe he could make his own mother "full of grace"?
God can do as He wishes. He did not do as you suppose He did.
Let's end it here, pede. I'll gladly read your next response but I won't reply myself.
It’s called a trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All are one, but still separate.
Kek the schismatic copes
The whole reason that Mary was the only human capable of conceiving Jesus was because she was without sin
The Pope is not the Church, the faithful are the Church. He is merely the heir to St Peter, and St. Peter denied Christ three times.
Become a non-denominational Christian like so many of us have become. The Roman Catholic Church was used since its inception to control Christians by the Roman government.
The Roman Emperors were literally hunting down and killing Christians. To say that RCC was working for the Roman government is as dumb as those people who say that the USA and USSR were working together during the Cold War to oppress third world nations.
LMAO. Who the fuck do you think gave legitimacy to the RCC? HINT: a Roman Emperor. Then they injected a bunch of pagan shit into Christianity, such as praying to Mary (HINT: If you actually read the bible, she's barely brought up.) Almost every 'Catholic' I know, including family members.. believe in Abortion and vote Democrat. "Most Roman Catholic beliefs and practices regarding Mary are completely absent from the Bible. Where did those beliefs come from? The Roman Catholic view of Mary has far more in common with the Isis mother-goddess religion of Egypt than it does with anything taught in the New Testament. Interestingly, the first hints of Catholic Mariology occur in the writings of Origen, who lived in Alexandria, Egypt, which happened to be the focal point of Isis worship." ... "Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well." .. "The idea that the Roman bishop is the vicar of Christ, the supreme leader of the Christian Church, is utterly foreign to the Word of God. The supremacy of the Roman bishop (the papacy) was created with the support of the Roman emperors. While most other bishops (and Christians) resisted the idea of the Roman bishop being supreme, the Roman bishop eventually rose to supremacy, again, due to the power and influence of the Roman emperors. After the western half of the Roman Empire collapsed, the popes took on the title that had previously belonged to the Roman emperors—Pontifex Maximus."
I am not arguing that the Popes didn't replace emperors or that the RCC didn't replace the entirety of Rome for that matter. It was largely the convents and monestaries that were negotiating with barbarians in the wake of Rome's fall. Constantine did make Christianity one of the religions of the Roman Empire but that was pretty late in the game and after 200 some years of persecution against Christians.
The early Christians prayed to saints. We know this because of stories like St. Perpetua, St. Agatha, St. Lucy, St. Peter and St.Andrew etc. In the catacombs of Rome where Christians held Mass during the Roman persecutions, it's laden with imaged of saints and their identifiable symbols.
Origen was a father of the Church but he wasn't a cult member of Isis. btw, the cult of Isis was long gone by the time monastic life and Christianity became widespread in Egypt. There's St. Anthanasius, St. Anthony the Great, St. Jerome and many many others. Far from Egypt being a bastion of paganism, Egypt was the flowering of the Church.
Mary is in Genesis 3:15 right up to Revelations with the woman clothed with the sun with the stars around her head and the earth at her feet. In fact, if you didn't hate the mother of God so much, you'd realize, Mary is in every single book in the Bible.
What are you even arguing then? I don't care that early Christians prayed to saints. How does that in any way mean they were correct? NO WHERE in Scripture does it say to pray to dead saints. NO WHERE in Scripture does it say that people in Heaven will pray for people on earth. THERE IS ONLY ONE MEDIATOR, and it's not your Catholic priest, Mary, or any of your saints.
Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
You said "The Roman Emperors were literally hunting down and killing Christians. To say that RCC was working for the Roman government is as dumb as those people who say that the USA and USSR were working together during the Cold War to oppress third world nations." except the Roman Catholic Church was LITERALLY founded by a Roman Emperor who 'converted' for political reasons. In fact, the Roman Catholic Church PERSECUTED other Christians.
ACCORDING TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH:
The Catholic church is the one true church CCC 2105 "The duty of offering God genuine worship concerns man both individually and socially. This is 'the traditional Catholic teaching on the moral duty of individuals and societies toward the true religion and the one Church of Christ.' By constantly evangelizing men, the Church works toward enabling them 'to infuse the Christian spirit into the mentality and mores, laws and structures of the communities in which [they] live.' The social duty of Christians is to respect and awaken in each man the love of the true and the good. It requires them to make known the worship of the one true religion which subsists in the Catholic and apostolic Church. Christians are called to be the light of the world. Thus, the Church shows forth the kingship of Christ over all creation and in particular over human societies."
The Catholic Church is Infallible CCC 2035, "The supreme degree of participation in the authority of Christ is ensured by the charism of infallibility. This infallibility extends as far as does the deposit of divine Revelation; it also extends to all those elements of doctrine, including morals, without which the saving truths of the faith cannot be preserved, explained, or observed."
Only the Roman Catholic Church has authority to interpret Scripture CCC 100, "The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him."
The Pope is the head of the church and has the authority of Christ CCC 2034, "The Roman Pontiff and the bishops are 'authentic teachers, that is, teachers endowed with the authority of Christ, who preach the faith to the people entrusted to them, the faith to be believed and put into practice.' The ordinary and universal Magisterium of the Pope and the bishops in communion with him teach the faithful the truth to believe, the charity to practice, the beatitude to hope for."
The Roman Catholic Church is necessary for salvation CCC 846, "How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it."
Based on the church's own laws, Pope Francis is right and cannot be wrong with his interpretations of Scripture. Pope Francis says that you do not have to believe in God or Jesus to go to Heaven. Pope Francis says you should not try to convert non-believers. He even says Trump is not a Christian. The CCP gives the Vatican church of $2 billion a year to pay off the Vatican for its silence. Absolutely disgusting. You've been misled by EVIL.
Why do you people even call your priests "Father"? That's absolutely disgusting alone and REEKS of blasphemy. Christians in the first century NEVER called their leaders "father". Matthew 23:9 And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
Matthew 6:7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words.
YET you probably got your Rosary beads and pray your 15 sets of 10 consecutive hail marys? Or sorry- I guess it's 20 sets now after Pope John Paul added them. IT'S ALL PAGAN EVIL THAT INFILTRATED.
DO some more RESEARCH. You are MISLED if you support this adulterated pagan garbage.
https://biblereasons.com/praying-to-saints/ https://carm.org/catholic/list-of-roman-catholic-false-teachings
The Canon of the Bible wasn't set until 400 AD when St. Jerome finished the Vulgate.
It's the RCC that gave us the Bible.
Regarding saints, the very first creeds of the Church talked about the Communion of Saints, and that communion has always been 1) The Church Militant composed of the living on Earth. 2) The Church suffering in Purgatory and 3) The Church Triumphant in Heaven, that is, the saints of heaven. The Communion of Saints is a community first and foremost and all members of the community of saints can help each other but the Church Triumphant doesn't need help and the Church suffering has already had their judgement which means the people who needs help are the living - the Church Militant. That is why we pray to saints. The various situations they faced in life and/or the various causes the Catholic Church has deemed for them to be linked to, make them intercessors for our petitions.
It is natural for us to use intercessors in our normal daily life on Earth. We do it all the time. We may appeal to a family member to help out with problem or with a mutual friend in some sort of need. The communion of saints is basically the same thing but on the supernatural plain. If there's one thing we know about God's creation is that it is complex and God could do everything just by fiat and frankly, in one instant if God so wished, but he doesn't. He takes time and uses many mediated causes. One of those mediated causes can be Saints.
Also, there's nothing in the Bible that directly says the Trinity either. Moreover, there's nowhere in the Bible that it says the Bible is the ultimate authority and sole authority regarding Christianity. You'd think if the Christian Bible was to be like the Koran, that is, the absolute literal word of God and sole and only necessary authority, the Bible would say it like the Koran does. The Bible doesn't say that though. Far from it. When we read the NT letters, what we find is that there's a structure to the early Church with leaders and leaders on top of those leaders and ultimately, there is Peter. Peter makes the decision via a dream that the Jewish dietary laws can be abrogated even when all the other Apostles believe Christians have to follow Judaic dietary laws. (Paul wasn't Judas Iscariot's replacement. Mathias was.) The structure and the hierarchy of the RCC predated the canon of the Bible. In fact, we see the structure in ACTS when the Apostles meet to address the dietary laws.
You certainly know a lot about Catholicism or you have good copypasta.
Biblereasons isn't representing what the Catholic Church teaches. If you want it explained simply from the horse's mouth, go to a source like Catholic Answers at Catholic.com. Biblereasons is to Catholicism like CNN is to Trump.
Got that right. All you need is your bible fren
That's not how it works for Catholics.
I haven't darkened the doors or dropped a dime in the collection plate since Francis made his anti-American comments a few years back. He is evil incarnate.
On the other hand, it's nothing new to have someone so shitty as Pope.
Me either. I won’t support that Heretic.
The Catholic Church put together the Bible in the middle of the fourth century. There are many teachings that Protestants find unbiblical but are actually Catholic traditions during those first 330 years passed down from the apostles and the church fathers.
Catholic here. Francis is NOT my pope!
ANTIPOPE
Technically correct. Upvote.
I don't think you know what that word means. Edit, technically correct. He is in place of another Pope. Not anti-pope as in the devil. But as B16 is still alive.
I'm better informed than most. But you don't need a doctorate in medieval church history to see what's plain to anyone. Two bishops in white, living in the Vatican, both answering to "pope". Obviously, one is a pretender, and I know who my money is on.
Ditto. Bears no longer shitting in woods.
Last REAL pope we had was St John Paul II
Y’all need to read “Infiltration”. The communist takeover of the Catholic Church began over a century ago. Hell, the Pope that ushered in Vatican II went to Chicago to study under Saul Alinsky.
Soon the infiltrators will be purged like a body purges a virus. There has been an increase in exorcists during this crisis.
Is word on fire (the podcast) based and Francis-pilled? It seems like it might be due to what it covers and declines to cover. I'm not catholic, but some of the catholic scholarship from WOF ends up seeming more concrete than what I got from an evangelical church years ago.
Not based. Not terrible for beginner stuff. Try the sspx podcast, or taylor marshall / restoring the faith for more commentary type stuff
WOF has a lot of good material, but some of Bp. Barron's videos on hell are shaky and based on some very dubious theologians.
Consider Dr. Taylor Marshall instead. Not only a solid Catholic theologian, but also a leader of Catholics for Trump.
Is the pope Catholic? No...seriously. Is he?
Does a bear shit in the toilet?
LMAO
Y’all need to read “Infiltration”. The communist takeover of the Catholic Church began over a century ago. Hell, the Pope that ushered in Vatican II went to Chicago to study under Saul Alinsky.
Yes. Catholicism is the Babylonian mystery religion. He preaches from the mouth of a snake in his hall.
And I was born and raised Catholic
My respect for the Pope has shrunk to zero. However, my respect for Catholics is higher than ever.
He is as corrupt as the popes in the Middle Ages when they sold "indulgences." He is a Communist...he has sold his soul to the globalist, godless elite who want to promote abortion and the LGBT agenda.
I actually have a working theory that Bergoglio is a descendant of Rodrigo Borgia, who, for those that don't know Renaissance history (or didn't play Assassin's Creed) was an incredibly controversial and corrupt Pope as well.
The pope has power because of catholics.
Most Catholics don't support him. Don't confuse Catholics in general with Jesuits and those Catholics raised by Jesuits.
China must have bailed out the bankrupt Vatican. All those pedophile lawsuits have taken a toll.
No, they've just got the tapes.
That's what I wonder. Did China go to cash a Vatican check and it bounced? Is someone stopping or have control over the Vatican piggy bank? Pissed off the communist?
Pope Francis is asshoe!
Archbishop Vigano should be Pontif
Robert Cardinal Sarah is pretty great from what I hear. He's one of several clergymen from Africa who are strongly Catholic, very conservative, none of this socialist garbage.
Cardinal Zen and Abp. schneider are great contenders!
My dad, who is a lifelong Methodist is a huge fan of Cardinal Sarah and read several of his books. If that gives you any sort of measure of how qualified Sarah is to be Pope and how well he can speak to the Christian world as a whole.
I too root for Cardinal Sarah.
A true man of catholic virtue. I hope I can feel proud of being united with Rome again.
MVGA.
A lot of the Archbishops from Africa are based.
the deep church is the synagogue of satan
Technically, the Bible describes the Synagogue of Satan as "... those who say they are Jews and are not..." There is only one group in the world that fits this description. Is the deep church likely the Whore of Babylon described in Revelation? Could be.
Q: Who is the Synagogue of Satan? A: See Rev 2:9, Rev 3:9, Rom 2:28-29
The deep church is literally just a bunch of communist faggots who infiltrated after requirements for becoming a priest were loosened after Vatican II.
The Holy See needs to remove Francis and install a new pope. No more modern Jesuits as popes.
Supposedly the "deep church" is a real thing, though.
Very deep, very real.
Remember all the Vatican Bank scandals?
Has been real for well over 60 years now.
Pope Francis is the Chinas Pope...
I don't know who the prominent Catholic in Hong Kong is but I will leave this here:
Dear Lord, protect this person. Put your hands upon him and give him strength and peace as he faces dark waters. In Jesus name I pray, amen.
Amen. Holy Spirit, please come down upon your servant and give him the strength and courage he needs to endure this imprisonment.
Francis wouldn't dare criticize his masters
POPE FRANKIE THE FRAUD
Because pope Francis is a commie
The pope is a commie fraud. Hes as Christian as Stalin was a capitalist.
Commie Pope is a commie.
Pope Francis is not the first corrupt pope but probably the first who isn't Catholic.
There have been others.
He is the first to openly and willingly lay on the enemy's bed though.
When asking "is the pope Catholic" is a legitimate concern.
Catholic Cajun here, we do not like Francis
Number of staunch Catholics who are surprised by this: 0
Well he’s a communist....so
He has always been a Socialist, came out of Argentina and the movement of Liberation Theology. No surprise where he stands. I too am Catholic and get so angry at what he has done in relation to China. Putz!
Liberalism is a disease. Unfortunately, it's also infected the Church.
I am an old woman, well, in my 60s, Jesuit educated with a degree in Theology. I understand the desire to help the poor of the world but as you said, it has turned into a disease. I am the granddaughter of two sets of immigrant grandparents. Two from eastern Europe. Growing up communism was the boogey man in the closet, and the truth of it was drilled into our heads. I just don't get it. Sorry, to be wordy in my response. thanks for writing. cheers!
Not only that, he is a critical race theorist.
The time to end China is nigh.
I don't usually comment, but as I look at this thread, lurking, I am struck by something. I am a proud Traditional Catholic. I notice that many have questions on church teaching. I think those will find fisheaters. com would be a great help. As for this pope... well, he is a heretic. Pope PiusX called socialism and communism demonic, if I'm not mistaken. I converted to Catholism from the Methodist church 21 years ago. 8 children, stay at home homeschooling wife. I teach my sons to be gentlemen and my daughters modest and I have never regretted my decision. Hope this helps.
A second on fisheaters.com.
Yeah, the Church explicitly condemns socialism and Marxism. Ive tried to give Francis the benefit of the doubt, but its become clear that he serves China, not the Church.
As a Catholic and speaking for a bunch of my sensible Catholic friends, Pope Francis is HORRIBLE. Hell is waiting for 'em.
Y’all need to read “Infiltration”. The communist takeover of the Catholic Church began over a century ago. Hell, the Pope that ushered in Vatican II went to Chicago to study under Saul Alinsky.
why alwyas pick on chy-na racist chy-na greatest nation try r local beer it nvr kills any 1 promise !!!
Xi owns the Pope
This very same heretic is allowing the CCP to rewrite the Bible to promote Party worship. This pretender is selling out to the highest bidder.
That and the Chinese Communist Churches have had to replace the ten commandments with CCP values on the sides of the altar. In Western Churches, we usually have a Mary side and a Joseph side to the left and right of the Altar. In far east Asian Catholic Churches, they often have a Ten Commandments and 8 Beatitudes sides to their altars. The Chinese churches have been forced to take down those words and replace them with "Chinese values" and if they don't, the army bulldozes the Church.
Probably too busy licking some Muslim rat's feet or dancing with a gay dude...once we re-take the US, it'll be time to re-evaluate our relationship with the Vaticunts
No, let us Catholics handle the Vatican purge. We had an inquisition once, we will do it again if need be.
The pope is on a rope! Swung with Chines soap!
Vigano has pointed words to Senor Francis! Money, power and globo homo is Francis’s play.
The pope is a communist, plain and simple. I’m not a catholic or religious by any means, but even I can see he’s very anti catholic tradition. And he’s silent on the pedophilia rampant in the churches, and silent on the human rights atrocities committed by dictatorships worldwide. But he’ll quickly denounce Cheeto Hitler as Cheeto-y and Hitlerish
He probably told the Commies where to find him.
Pope Francis is an Argentine. Argentines are the most self aggrandized sons of bitches in the world.
Bears no longer shit in the woods..... 😕
The Pope is a pedophile.
Does anyone have the name of the arrestee?
Pope Frances is a NWO cuck!
As someone who has half my family living in Argentina...Pope Francis can go fuck himself. From what I have heard, he is not welcome back in Argentina, ever.
Too busy counting his CCP blood money bribes and stalking Brazilian instagram models
The answer to the age old question "Is the Pope Catholic?" used to be an absolute yes. Nowadays I wouldn't be surprised if people are actually asking that question for real.