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posted ago by pepesbiceps ago by pepesbiceps +9111 / -6

UPDATE

As of 12/9/2020, the majority of the content of this post is no longer applicable. 18 states (inclduing Arizona) have now filled Amicus Briefs with the TX case, and president has filled a motion to join the case as well. THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!!

The purpose of this post was a success. By pointing out to people that no state had yet joined the lawsuit on 12/8/2020, we ensured that everyone that could call, indeed did call, their AGs, Govs, and Reps, and demand them to join the lawsuit. Our work is not yet done, more states AGs must join the cause. Keep up the great work folks, make sure to double check your sources, and never hesitate to ask a pede for a source, especially if there's only a screenshot or a tweet from a random person involved

Trump 2020, let's fucking go


Post as of 12/8/2020 for reference.

  1. No other state has joined the TX lawsuit. Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Missouri AGs have released statements appreciating or supporting the lawsuit, but no state has yet joined the lawsuit. This could change, but for now, none has

  2. SCOTUS has NOT accepted the TX case. The case has been docketed, just like the PA case had been docketed. SCOTUS has yet to decide if they will hear the case, while I do expect them to, they haven't done so yet.

UPDATE (update 7 below): Big update on this below. u/SellTheSun elaborates extensively on how this case is different from the Kelly filing, and what the aproximate timeline looks like. TLDR, we're likely in a better position than I initially made it appear, at least from a position of SCOTUS hearing or responding to this case in some manner.

  1. SCOTUS has not rejected the Mike Kelly PA lawsuit. Jenna Ellis says "The Supreme Court only denied emergency injunctive relief. In the order, it did NOT deny cert. @MikeKellyPA’s suit is still pending before the U.S. Supreme Court." This means that the merits of the case have not been rejected, and the case not only is still active, but can also be merged with the TX case. It can also not be, and the TX case can be independent. No certainties here.

Sources:

Louisiana's AG's Statement (supporting but not joining the lawsuit): https://www.kplctv.com/2020/12/08/louisiana-ag-throws-support-behind-texas-election-lawsuit/

Alabama's AG's Statement (supporting the arguments of the TX lawsuit but not joining it): https://twitter.com/AGSteveMarshall/status/1336435391403057156

Mike Kelly PA's docketed case: https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20a98.html

See how Mike Kelly's case is DOCKETED on December 3rd. Doesn't mean that it was heard. Again, I hope, and honestly, expect, that SCOTUS will hear the TX case, but doesn't mean that SCOTUS will.


Update 1: From now on any new edits, I'll add as updates.

Arkansas AG says she will help TX case in any legal way she can. Hasn't joined the lawsuit yet either.

Source: https://twitter.com/AGRutledge/status/1336452654982160392


Update 2: Added a third point regarding the "rejection" of the Mike Kelly Case. Source: https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1336451735150350336


Update 3: Ted Cruz has made a statement with respect to Mike Kelly's lawsuit lamenting on SCOTUS: https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1336467262975467520

IANAL so I'm not sure how this coincides with Lawyer Jenna Ellis, but for the sake of transparency, I'm adding it here to have everything in one place.

Going through the comments as rapidly as I can and responding. Saw the AG-Elect from Indiana supporting the TX lawsuit (but he's AG-Elect, so no authority yet right?). IDK, for reference, link is: https://www.facebook.com/ToddRokitaIN/posts/10158842063228252


Update 4: Front Page post https://thedonald.win/p/11QlTrBLmj/its-working-louisiana-to-join-te/c/ regarding LA joining TX lawsuit is bullshit. They released a statement, which if you actually read, says they support the TX lawsuit and already have their own lawsuit in the pipeline.

LA AG Statement: http://agjefflandry.com/Article/10825

Only the U.S. Supreme Court can ultimately decide cases of real controversy among the states under our Constitution. That is why the Justices should hear and decide the case [referring to an older case linked below] which we have joined representing the citizens of Louisiana. Furthermore, the U.S. Supreme Court should consider the most recent Texas motion, which contains some of the same arguments.

That older lawsuit is: http://agjefflandry.com/Files/Article/10808/Documents/2020-11-09-RepublicanPartyofPa.v.Boockvar-AmicusBriefofMissourietal.-FinalWithTables.pdf

It appears to be solely against the events which took place in PA.


Update 5 -- taking a 75 mins break at 9:20 TT. Will be back in the evening to respond to as many comments as i can and keep updating as we find out and learn new information.


Update 6 -- Missouri AG says he'll support TX in any way he can.

Source: https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1336506935982624768


Update 7 -- The texas vs. PA et. al. SCOTUS case

u/SellTheSun is amazing. Catch the entire thread, so that you can follow along, and perhaps even ask clarifications on your own starting at https://thedonald.win/p/11QlTuYt7R/massive-disinformation-effort-on/c/4DqchljeYgF

Points made by u/SellTheSun:

I understand this may still be confusing. Please comment on the thread at https://thedonald.win/p/11QlTuYt7R/massive-disinformation-effort-on/c/4DqchljeYgF and page both me and u/SellTheSun so we can update as necessary.

u/SellTheSun, please tell me if I'm missing something or should clarify something further.


Update 8 -- An update from Jeff Landy, LA AG

In a FB comment on his statement regarding the TX lawsuit, Jeff Landry clarified that NO STATE can join the lawsuit until SCOTUS agrees to hear the case (which further clarifies that SCOTUS hasn't agreed to hear the case just yet -- follow along update 7 for a tmeline):

Other states are not able to join Texas until the court agrees to hear the case. Separately, I already put Louisiana on record on a different case on the same, or similar merits, weeks and weeks ago long before the Texas filing was made.

u/SellTheSun can correct me on this, but I believe Jeff Landry can still file an Amicus Brief in the TX case which he hasn't yet done.

Source: Jeff Landry, AG of Louisiana in a FB comment on this post: https://www.facebook.com/LandryforLA/posts/3694419443954498

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540k-Again -3 points ago +6 / -9

The yuuuuuge issue is the Texas lawsuit is a Legal Trojan Horse.

<Insert Trump reading the snek poem.>

THE LAWSUIT DOESN'T SAY WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE PROJECTING IT SAYS. The actual nuts & bolts (as written) legal grounds in the Texas lawsuit; the actual structural legal grounds contained within the lawsuit; are evil like The Patriot Act. It's Full-blown action by the EXACT people many pedes shit on all the time: Swamp, Deepstate, GOP, Establishment, Neocons, Never-Trumpers, etc. It's literally, the next round of Robert's type Justices getting their promotion into the justice que for the next 20 years; just as Bush v Gore was. This is the f'g game being played, over and over.

The Texas lawsuit has NOTHING to do with helping DJT/Pence win; or in upholding the Constitution; and has sucked up a lot of oxygen when we should be getting our Republican State Legislatures to sign-off on their Republican DJT/Pence SLATE of ELECTORS. The Texas Lawsuit and all it's coordinated hype on this window of time; is like 9/11 and "The Patriot Act" or the "Go invade the middle east for 20 years Act"; it's being used to make people/pedes/mods/bigmicrophoneRepublicans leap before they look!

The WIN WIN Plan summarized a bit better in it's original comment here, rather than it's Post:

https://thedonald.win/p/11PpYdveev/x/c/1ATC9URhjt

vs

Texas Lawsuit

Takes a minute or two to read; now which one is snek or a Trojan Horse; and which one gets more wins for DJT and the US Constitution?

Or put even more simply, if adopt the WIN WIN Plan; then it makes the 92page Texas lawsuit moot and completely irrelevant. Whereas if adopt the Texas lawsuit, the WIN WIN Plan would STILL have legal standing because the Texas lawsuit doesn't resolve the WIN WIN Plans legal challenges.

There is still time.

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FormerGraveheart 7 points ago +7 / -0

That link does NOT explain why the Texas lawsuit is a legal trojan horse. You have not yet explained how that is the case.

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540k-Again 1 point ago +4 / -3

Here's my post for the WIN WIN Plan, that has more info in the comments too:

https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/for-everyone-who-wants-djtpence-/

Here's my post that rebuts the lawsuit as reported in Breitbart article last night pre-pdf release; but it's still holds after reading the pdf. I could write the entire rebuttle to shred the 92 page pdf; just as I could for the 105 page PA lawsuit; but I do not particularly want to be doing the oppositions homework for them.

https://thedonald.win/p/11QlTmdUij/breakdown-of-breitbart-article-o/

if anything I can clarify or add to, let me know; others also usually have similar questions

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ellegrigori 2 points ago +2 / -0

According to the Constitution, you are spot on. I do think these other "events" are a distraction, but with a small twist. You think, if you'll allow, that the TX suit is a trojan horse for another 20-war type scenario decided by SC/lawsuits type events that we keep finding ourselves in since reagan. But I think this entire set of events, starting with the biden "win" (even the useful idiot dems didn't expect or believe, if they're honest) to the newest iteration of the TX suit, serves as a distraction for the totally UN-Constitutional fed wallet bill already in congress signed and ready to go "live" on Jan 1. An inducement would be something like the covid relief bill the were all posturing about, pathos-inducing cries of 'bringing relief to the people with these checks which will be elchecks, issued only if you have signed up. well, my $.01