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Not so sure about that, but we'll see. Not a single individual of significance has seen any semblance of a repercussion, let alone justice, for three coups against the sitting President of the United States.
Meghan McCain and John Kasich both admitted on live TV that McCain was executed. He did not die of cancer.
Word on the street was that he was using his wife's "charity", Operation Smile, to smuggle chemical weapons into Syria to be used to bring the desired war about. Which failed. And now he's gone. Boo. Hoo.
For those two there's video.
For those who were watching Q drops we were warned 30 days in advance, pretty much down to the hour that McCain would be returning to the news. "Hands up, John!". We didn't know what was coming, but found out pretty quickly.
Where was this FUCKING policy when the establishment media were accusing Trump of collusion with Russia for three years? They were all too happy to keep every video on their site, even after the special counsel yielded FUCK ALL
money will not be worth much 5-10 years after Trump is out of office. and these useful idiots will be discarded by the chicoms soon after. they just do not realize it yet.
Correct on all points, and well said. We don't need moronic chaos. We need our leaders to make use of us and LEAD us. Small teams can accomplish limited, specific goals, but we have all got to be prepared: our enemy plans to purposely unleash mass moronic chaos and simply order them to kill all of US. And we will NOT be able to rely on national infrastructure such as power grids, water treatment, telecom lines, satellites, etc.
Don't forget that China has lots of armor parked in Mexico and ground troops in Canada. And of course, the Blue Helmets show up where the Rothschilds tell them to!
The only date set in stone by the constitution is January 20th at noon for the inauguration.
All of the other shit will happen when we want and need it to and not before fraudulent results have been corrected.
Watch for Newsom, Cuomo, and Whitmer to attempt to close the borders of their states to travelers as a last ditch effort to stop Christmas. We really cucked the shit out of them on Thanksgiving, and they're mad.
[Revoking 230] actually requires that you increase censorship.
No, it requires them to increase censorship to publisher levels. Because they are publishers. You can still say whatever you want.
There's no way a youtube or reddit or facebook as-is can cover their liability by moderating, even with AI and millions of moderators things will slip through and they'll get sued for it. They'll be forced to drop the social media, user-generated content that they live on and that they use to destroy a cohesive, healthy society.
All revoking 230 does is make people responsible for their own actions. Publishers are responsible for what they publish. Individuals are responsible for what they say.
Sites like Minds.com where you host your own content and they don't moderate at all will be fine (their infrastructure is covered as Common Carrier like a phone company). Social media will still exist, but it'll be controlled by individuals being responsible for and voicing their own opinions not by socialist mega-corporations.
Novel idea but the Marines are not needed. Two guys in a suit from DIA and DOJ could happily do it. Hit these people not with force but with total loss of assets, i.e. Sep 2018 EO.
Gotta love idiots who project as much as leftists about "boomers."
(c) Protection for “Good Samaritan” blocking and screening of offensive material
(1) Treatment of publisher or speaker
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
(2) Civil liability
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of—
(A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or
If judges are going to pretend social media is acting in good faith and not as publishers it all has to go.
Yes, it will change everything, idiot. That's why Trump wants it.
Youtube can AT ANY MOMENT flip a switch and make all videos DRM-protected so you can't youtube-dl them. Then they delete truth and nobody has a copy except a few hackers with hacked monitor cables or rooted graphics card firmware.
You'll still be able to make a phone video recording, for now, but if you have Android Google can put whatever censorship they want on your phone. Not like Apple is any better, but at least they are a different company making it a bit harder to have a really all-encompassing censorship. Best phone is Android, rooted and installed without Google.
I prefer Crowder's brand of libertarianism. He generally wants things to be free to do what they want, but recognizes that Big Tech has become so large and overbearing that its existence is threatening the liberties of others, so he wants them broken up.
The Libertarian Party's brand is stupid. I like libertarianism with ideas that actually work i.e. let's NOT throw the borders open when we have a massive welfare state, etc
This is why I still consider myself a left wing libertarian. PEOPLE should be free to do whatever they want, but business should be regulated. We are seeing why right now. People need to be protected from corruption like this, and the government is the only way to do it.
No, What i'm pointing out is that being a leftist is a coward move, Ever noticed the -11 downvotes you received? That's when you should take a hint and realize: You're saying this in a site full of real americans who support Donald Trump and wants to stop the corruption that's going on in the U.S
Im obviously not a "leftist". I may lean slightly left of center on some issues, but I meant it more as a differentiation of libertarianism.
There is no political party right now that suits me, so I vote conservative, because every left wing party is horrible right now. Way too far left, way too authoritarian.
You guys should be welcoming of people like me because we agree on far more than we disagree with. If I lived in the states I would definitely be a Trump voter for so many reasons.
Why? Do you understand that the existence of a corporation is a government shield of legal liability? Government is the problem here, not private business.
Yes it does, a far better one than what we have now. No public schools, so there’s no government agents raising and brainwashing your children. No welfare, which places a burden on productive people and subsidizes unproductive people. Libertarianism IS the solution for the preservation of social and moral norms.
When >50% of our nation's GDP comes from government spending, we no longer have free markets or small governments and it been this way for a long while.
What we have is corporate cronyism and encroaching government power. Both are terrible for wealth creation and stand of living, as well as personal liberty.
I want to live in a nation that optimizes for wealth creation for all and personal liberty. Free markets and small government are the best way to do this.
china regulates its borders and puts their national power first while exploiting free market and small government in the west. Free market should only be for the nations citizen. USA and Europe got screwed over under pretenses of free market by china and eu.
a chinses national student can study and infiltrate in the highest level of american university and research center where as an american wouldn't even know what's cooking in Beijing
That's . . . incomplete. A free market system among any nation willing to play by the rules would be wonderful. Nations that do not, however, should be excluded, and made to suffer the consequences of their behavior.
Free markets are great but governments will always encroach. The nature of power hierarchies. Power corrupts.
Corporatism is a marker for fascism, not liberty, and a game enjoyed by nearly all authoritarians.
Corporations are legal identities with protections given to them by governments to protect them from accountability in the free market. Government actors give these well lobbied businesses preference believing it will help stabilize/improve the economy (or greedily for kickbacks), but no matter the intention, it screws everyone over in the long run.
"To Big to Fail" and " I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system" (Bush) are examples of the ill borne fruit of this thinking.
there's more of a chance of his wife growing balls and throwing commies out of helicopters than shapiro ever leaving his chair todo more than oWn LeFtIsTs
yep all the chinese cucks marching in complete lockstep. they're doing this to black out the piles of evidence that's going to be shown for the big texas SC case. that's cool, DJT can just put it all on his accounts.
Libertarians be like: "aT LeAsT iTs nOt tHe gUbBuRmEnT tReAdInG oN mY rIgHtS"
Sorry LibRight, but this is why I became a paleocon. Big XYZ Industry cannot be trusted to self regulate or to not infringe on constitutional rights. Big Biz == Big Gov
That's the root of the issue. If you could keep big biz from influencing big gov (theoretically) and enforce some limitations on anti-competitive behavior, then it wouldn't be anywhere near the issue it is
Anyone who doesn't see that big government has just teamed up with big business to suppress rights is a moron. They are using the loophole of "it's a private business" to infringe on rights.
I just hope that if things kick off, people are smart enough to go for the real targets, and not some purple haired 80 IQ fat slob.
This is where my libertarianism ends. The government isn't stepping on these companies but the companies are stepping on us. This is where the government should be stepping in and breaking them up or shutting them down.
Youtube is not infringing on anyone's constitutional rights by doing this. Unless the government gets involved, the free market fixes these problems. Case in point: thedonald.win was created in response to censorship at Reddit. We did not need the government to get involved, we solved our own problem.
In short: we're going to restrict our audience to those who want redundant makeup tutorials/reviews, redundant cooking shows...and cat tv. Oh, and CNN/MSNBC/FOX when our viewers want a break from learning makeup and cooking tips or want to take back control of the computer screen from their cats.
Been reading up on the Electoral Count Act if 1887, and the MSM has been gaslighting the public on the meaning and application of the Safe Harbor deadline.
Basically, it says that if the legislated electoral process has been completed before the deadline, then those electoral votes will be counted. However, the argument of the Texas lawsuit is that the legislated process was not followed.
Safe Harbor is therefore not limiting if a legitimate election process did not occur in the first place.
So... people also aren't allowed to talk about Kennedy fraud, or Southern fraud in the pre-civil rights era, or rotten boroughs in UK history? And I just imagined all the videos about how Hillary really won, and Bernie really won, and Gore really won?
Um... never noticed this policy before. Amazing how this stuff just materializes, and yet they claim it was already in place.
That sucks, I was still holding onto the youtube premium because youtube music came with it for a decent price. Guess I need to cancel and find a different music service as well.
They know there is a storm a coming if they can't keep Trump out of office. Google will end up being broken up into at least 3 companies maybe more. The way AT&T was taken down in the 1970s.
Wow!!!
Makes all the idiots not repealing 230 look like fools.
Seriously. Fools? They're laughing all the way to the bank.
They may have money in the bank, but putting any amount of effort into getting Trump out of office makes them extremely foolish.
Not so sure about that, but we'll see. Not a single individual of significance has seen any semblance of a repercussion, let alone justice, for three coups against the sitting President of the United States.
tbh I think the biggest repercussion they face is being on the wrong side of history; not the heaviest consequences.
That being said, I think no amount of money can recoup moral/spiritual bankruptcy
Meghan McCain and John Kasich both admitted on live TV that McCain was executed. He did not die of cancer.
Word on the street was that he was using his wife's "charity", Operation Smile, to smuggle chemical weapons into Syria to be used to bring the desired war about. Which failed. And now he's gone. Boo. Hoo.
Source for McCain and Kasich?
For those two there's video. For those who were watching Q drops we were warned 30 days in advance, pretty much down to the hour that McCain would be returning to the news. "Hands up, John!". We didn't know what was coming, but found out pretty quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1Lr7EjZ5o
https://youtu.be/24kYGjxdmw8
Where was this FUCKING policy when the establishment media were accusing Trump of collusion with Russia for three years? They were all too happy to keep every video on their site, even after the special counsel yielded FUCK ALL
money will not be worth much 5-10 years after Trump is out of office. and these useful idiots will be discarded by the chicoms soon after. they just do not realize it yet.
After communists take over, they always execute around 70% of the collaborators. You can't trust traitors, even if they helped you take over.
It’s happened every time.
These retards should have studied history.
They’ll be asking themselves “where did I go wrong” all the way up to them being lined up against the wall.
Of all the phrases ever said
None inspired so much dread
as "Looks like /pol/ was right again"
Fools because God doesn't take cash.
The are BIG tech.
The only thing more encouraging than money, the a gun to the back of their head.
President Trump:
We need a strong response to this. Really strong.
Like DRONE STRIKE strong
I only wish POTUS realized we'd support him doing that AND that we'd line up to fight any Chinese or UN troops that decide to interfere.
Correct on all points, and well said. We don't need moronic chaos. We need our leaders to make use of us and LEAD us. Small teams can accomplish limited, specific goals, but we have all got to be prepared: our enemy plans to purposely unleash mass moronic chaos and simply order them to kill all of US. And we will NOT be able to rely on national infrastructure such as power grids, water treatment, telecom lines, satellites, etc.
Don't forget that China has lots of armor parked in Mexico and ground troops in Canada. And of course, the Blue Helmets show up where the Rothschilds tell them to!
Invoke the Insurrection Act. Wtf is he waiting for????
He wants to let us have Christmas with our families first.
Washington crossed the Delaware on Christmas
:)
You know this might actually be true. The other day a reported said holiday party and trump responded , no we’re having a Christmas party
The only date set in stone by the constitution is January 20th at noon for the inauguration.
All of the other shit will happen when we want and need it to and not before fraudulent results have been corrected.
Watch for Newsom, Cuomo, and Whitmer to attempt to close the borders of their states to travelers as a last ditch effort to stop Christmas. We really cucked the shit out of them on Thanksgiving, and they're mad.
Does this mean if Trump is the one to get inaugurated, anyone who goes against that gets censored? Lol
Lmao if you think leftist have consistent standards
Yeah, because leftists are known for playing by their own rules and graciously accepting defeat.
No, it requires them to increase censorship to publisher levels. Because they are publishers. You can still say whatever you want.
There's no way a youtube or reddit or facebook as-is can cover their liability by moderating, even with AI and millions of moderators things will slip through and they'll get sued for it. They'll be forced to drop the social media, user-generated content that they live on and that they use to destroy a cohesive, healthy society.
All revoking 230 does is make people responsible for their own actions. Publishers are responsible for what they publish. Individuals are responsible for what they say.
Sites like Minds.com where you host your own content and they don't moderate at all will be fine (their infrastructure is covered as Common Carrier like a phone company). Social media will still exist, but it'll be controlled by individuals being responsible for and voicing their own opinions not by socialist mega-corporations.
Novel idea but the Marines are not needed. Two guys in a suit from DIA and DOJ could happily do it. Hit these people not with force but with total loss of assets, i.e. Sep 2018 EO.
Frankly you don't have a clue. Read a book.
Gotta love idiots who project as much as leftists about "boomers."
(c) Protection for “Good Samaritan” blocking and screening of offensive material (1) Treatment of publisher or speaker No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
(2) Civil liability No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of— (A) any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable, whether or not such material is constitutionally protected; or
If judges are going to pretend social media is acting in good faith and not as publishers it all has to go.
Yes, it will change everything, idiot. That's why Trump wants it.
Speaking of fast...
Youtube can AT ANY MOMENT flip a switch and make all videos DRM-protected so you can't youtube-dl them. Then they delete truth and nobody has a copy except a few hackers with hacked monitor cables or rooted graphics card firmware.
You'll still be able to make a phone video recording, for now, but if you have Android Google can put whatever censorship they want on your phone. Not like Apple is any better, but at least they are a different company making it a bit harder to have a really all-encompassing censorship. Best phone is Android, rooted and installed without Google.
Fuck libertarianism
I prefer Crowder's brand of libertarianism. He generally wants things to be free to do what they want, but recognizes that Big Tech has become so large and overbearing that its existence is threatening the liberties of others, so he wants them broken up.
The Libertarian Party's brand is stupid. I like libertarianism with ideas that actually work i.e. let's NOT throw the borders open when we have a massive welfare state, etc
Libertarians don't want a welfare state.
This is why I still consider myself a left wing libertarian. PEOPLE should be free to do whatever they want, but business should be regulated. We are seeing why right now. People need to be protected from corruption like this, and the government is the only way to do it.
Thats called being a coward.
Trump is a coward because he disagrees that google/twitter/facebook should be able to do whatever they want?
Thats what you are saying.
No, What i'm pointing out is that being a leftist is a coward move, Ever noticed the -11 downvotes you received? That's when you should take a hint and realize: You're saying this in a site full of real americans who support Donald Trump and wants to stop the corruption that's going on in the U.S
Im obviously not a "leftist". I may lean slightly left of center on some issues, but I meant it more as a differentiation of libertarianism. There is no political party right now that suits me, so I vote conservative, because every left wing party is horrible right now. Way too far left, way too authoritarian. You guys should be welcoming of people like me because we agree on far more than we disagree with. If I lived in the states I would definitely be a Trump voter for so many reasons.
Leftism implies authoritarianism. Why? Because Leftism goes against human nature, and must be forced onto a populace.
? Sarcasm?
No, fuck libertarianism.
Why? Do you understand that the existence of a corporation is a government shield of legal liability? Government is the problem here, not private business.
The main problem I have with libertarianism is that it offers no solution for the preservation of social and moral norms.
Yes it does, a far better one than what we have now. No public schools, so there’s no government agents raising and brainwashing your children. No welfare, which places a burden on productive people and subsidizes unproductive people. Libertarianism IS the solution for the preservation of social and moral norms.
Every notable libertarian I know has argued very publicly for the legalization of prostitution and heroin.
Thanks, but no thanks, cowboy. I’ll stick to the helicopter solution.
Exactly. People don't get it.
"Corporation" is a government protected entity. All of these people would be directly liable otherwise.
Yes, exactly. Government sets the playing field. If the rules of the game don't work, that's on government.
What happens when the corporations have near complete control of the government an are repressing speech that goes against their mandated narrative?
What if the government was so weak that it didn't matter?
The only reason they lobby government is because government has power over you.
If corporations don't have control of you, they don't have control of the government.
What's wrong with free markets and small government? It's the anti thesis of communism...
You realize libertarianism provides the argument that these companies should be allowed to behave however they please, right?
Freedom is freedom regardless of idealogy.
When >50% of our nation's GDP comes from government spending, we no longer have free markets or small governments and it been this way for a long while.
What we have is corporate cronyism and encroaching government power. Both are terrible for wealth creation and stand of living, as well as personal liberty.
I want to live in a nation that optimizes for wealth creation for all and personal liberty. Free markets and small government are the best way to do this.
Should the Donald be allowed to censor trolls?
And provides the arguments against big government forcing us to behave however THEY please
china regulates its borders and puts their national power first while exploiting free market and small government in the west. Free market should only be for the nations citizen. USA and Europe got screwed over under pretenses of free market by china and eu.
a chinses national student can study and infiltrate in the highest level of american university and research center where as an american wouldn't even know what's cooking in Beijing
That's . . . incomplete. A free market system among any nation willing to play by the rules would be wonderful. Nations that do not, however, should be excluded, and made to suffer the consequences of their behavior.
Free markets are great but governments will always encroach. The nature of power hierarchies. Power corrupts.
Corporatism is a marker for fascism, not liberty, and a game enjoyed by nearly all authoritarians.
Corporations are legal identities with protections given to them by governments to protect them from accountability in the free market. Government actors give these well lobbied businesses preference believing it will help stabilize/improve the economy (or greedily for kickbacks), but no matter the intention, it screws everyone over in the long run.
"To Big to Fail" and " I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system" (Bush) are examples of the ill borne fruit of this thinking.
Also Fuck The Fed Forever.
You got it!
The problem is that I really support the libertarians argument, but not when it comes to monopolies.
China is abusing our liberties to further their agenda.
What about little tech? Should we regulate them too?
I agree with the sentiment.
Though it really has no place here as this is more of a result of lobbying and big government than anything.
Libertarianism has achieved the majority of its social goals. Where are you on limited government?
Get lost shill
depoooort
RIGGER
I hope crowder or shapiro steps up to defend our liberties. I don't have faith the GOP will fix it in legislation.
lol shapiro
there's more of a chance of his wife growing balls and throwing commies out of helicopters than shapiro ever leaving his chair todo more than oWn LeFtIsTs
Thank God he does that at peak capacity, right gaiz?
To be completely honesty though, it’s mostly soft targets, soy boys primed by years of brainwashing in “liberal arts” degree bullshit.
yep all the chinese cucks marching in complete lockstep. they're doing this to black out the piles of evidence that's going to be shown for the big texas SC case. that's cool, DJT can just put it all on his accounts.
Sometimes I relish in the fact that panicking a single room could help destroy these corporations.
The left cannot survive without censorship.
So glad they get to decide what really happened and also determine the president elect.
Someone convince me that this isn't communism.
Communism is an economic system. This is tyranny regardless of economic principles.
It's not "communism", though censorship is a core utility for communism.
This is fascism
Tomato tomahto
lol yeah nobody's gonna be able to do that
Stalinism
This. Parler makes itself a reasonable alternative because big names jumped. We need some biggies on an alternate video platform.
I don't think there is anything stopping people from downloading YouTube content and re-uploading it to a different website.
Unreal. I just don't understand how this is OK. Clearly, they are scared
Libertarians be like: "aT LeAsT iTs nOt tHe gUbBuRmEnT tReAdInG oN mY rIgHtS"
Sorry LibRight, but this is why I became a paleocon. Big XYZ Industry cannot be trusted to self regulate or to not infringe on constitutional rights. Big Biz == Big Gov
Yep. Also, encouraging our children to kill themselves with drugs is a bad idea.
That's the root of the issue. If you could keep big biz from influencing big gov (theoretically) and enforce some limitations on anti-competitive behavior, then it wouldn't be anywhere near the issue it is
Anyone who doesn't see that big government has just teamed up with big business to suppress rights is a moron. They are using the loophole of "it's a private business" to infringe on rights.
I just hope that if things kick off, people are smart enough to go for the real targets, and not some purple haired 80 IQ fat slob.
the 80 IQ beached whales advocate for 90% of this shit anyway
This is where my libertarianism ends. The government isn't stepping on these companies but the companies are stepping on us. This is where the government should be stepping in and breaking them up or shutting them down.
Youtube is not infringing on anyone's constitutional rights by doing this. Unless the government gets involved, the free market fixes these problems. Case in point: thedonald.win was created in response to censorship at Reddit. We did not need the government to get involved, we solved our own problem.
"Coverup" is another word that applies to Youtube.
Enjoy the use of 230 while it's still available to you, these social media platforms are about to get ass-hammered in GEOTUS' second term :D
What's about "Freedom of expression"?
Their CCP overlords said it’s time. Fuck em. Go to Rumble
In short: we're going to restrict our audience to those who want redundant makeup tutorials/reviews, redundant cooking shows...and cat tv. Oh, and CNN/MSNBC/FOX when our viewers want a break from learning makeup and cooking tips or want to take back control of the computer screen from their cats.
A collection of STATES are now suing the fraudulent states but for Youtube censors it's forbidden to speak about, wtf?
You will believe what we say or else......you will wear the mask until you lose all resistance to "our" truth.....
There it is.
Use Rumble...
Been reading up on the Electoral Count Act if 1887, and the MSM has been gaslighting the public on the meaning and application of the Safe Harbor deadline.
Basically, it says that if the legislated electoral process has been completed before the deadline, then those electoral votes will be counted. However, the argument of the Texas lawsuit is that the legislated process was not followed.
Safe Harbor is therefore not limiting if a legitimate election process did not occur in the first place.
BREAKING: Today we start digging our own grave.
Take away their protection, break their monopoly, seize their assets and send them to prison. No more fucking around.
So... people also aren't allowed to talk about Kennedy fraud, or Southern fraud in the pre-civil rights era, or rotten boroughs in UK history? And I just imagined all the videos about how Hillary really won, and Bernie really won, and Gore really won?
Um... never noticed this policy before. Amazing how this stuff just materializes, and yet they claim it was already in place.
Go to Rumble or BitChute. Drop YouTube like we dropped Fox.
PooTube literally just shit the bed.
That sucks, I was still holding onto the youtube premium because youtube music came with it for a decent price. Guess I need to cancel and find a different music service as well.
My music service is pretty good prease crick:
www.thepiratebay.org
After Trump is inaugurated will they remove any videos of leftists expressing dissatisfaction or challenging the process?
They know there is a storm a coming if they can't keep Trump out of office. Google will end up being broken up into at least 3 companies maybe more. The way AT&T was taken down in the 1970s.
Citation Needed*
PooTube literally just shit the bed.
Great so all the russian collusion videos will be taken down?
Repeal section 230 NOW.
Well I was getting bored of YouTube anyway. Anyone wanna an site?
Youtube needs to be destroyed.
Can they just go ahead and stop calling it YouTube?
How about NotYouTube?
OnlyWhatWeApproveTube?
ObeyUsPlebTube?
Make copies of important videos. The more local copies the better.
Eat shit, Commie-Tube!
I guess that means this is it. When that hits, effective immediately I'm migrating to a new service.
Remove their access to internet backbone links.
Simple.
Only because they are being flooded with evidence...
https://thedonald.win/p/11QlYWh6OX/
It would be a real shame if youtube's HQ caught fire. That would really really suck.
I am confused, at what point do they become an editor if this is not enough?
Cancelled YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZypB6P0q0