Let this be the nail in the 230 platform protections coffin, not some 1A bridge to die on
free speech is a protection from government, not from companies.
Let them be a shithole of censorship and void their 230 protections, then take them down for live streaming child porn or violence or whatever other shit would be illegal if a publisher did it.
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or show a memo or some other colusion and direction from a sitting democrat (pelosi/feinstein) to bring this into the government sphere and argue 1A from there.
I follow some advocacy groups that are pushing hard for 230 protections to be repealed because Pornhub has quite a bit of child porn and rape videos and they want Pornhub held accountable. So there’s a big push from that sector (anti-human trafficking advocacy groups).
I know Dan Bongino is against repealing section 230 bc he thinks it will ultimately hurt free speech more than it helps, but ffs, SOMETHING needs to be done!!
Edit: I don’t know that anyone necessarily wants 230 done away with completely, I kind of worded it poorly; it needs changed to remove some of the vagueness that these sites are exploiting, but regardless, these sites in general need to be exempted from 230 protections.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but then what is the solution bc it’s NOT being enforced?? Dorsey & Zuckerberg have testified and lied multiple times to congress yet nothing happens. Leaving it as is and saying it just needs enforced doesn’t seem to be working...
I kind of said that incorrectly, they don’t necessarily want it repealed completely, but do want sites exempted (EARN IT Act legislation). Many say 230 just needs fixed to change the last qualifier of “other questionable content” bc this is the part being exploited to silence conservatives, Trump, or anything not approved by the new world order.
The problem is twofold: Twitter and Youtube are removing stuff that is, for all intents and purposes, harmless but just goes against their ideology while pornhub is allowing all content without any policing and this is allowing child porn and rape videos on their site, which SHOULD be removed.
Thats why Digg/Reddit/etc started as link aggregators. They never actually hosted any content (they do now because fuck it there isn't any enforcement)
We already know these "platforms" have the tools and motives to "deplatform" anyone at any time, so they always have been able to stifle free speech. Worries me that all these idiots don't see that.
I completly agree, but the answer isn't some higher authority telling businesses what to do.
it's removing protections that are being abused, decreasing regulations that prevent new entrants to the market, and hold them liable for the content they publish, and allow the private industry to spawn other "better" alternatives.
Let this be the nail in the 230 platform protections coffin, not some 1A bridge to die on
free speech is a protection from government, not from companies.
Let them be a shithole of censorship and void their 230 protections, then take them down for live streaming child porn or violence or whatever other shit would be illegal if a publisher did it.
edit:
or show a memo or some other colusion and direction from a sitting democrat (pelosi/feinstein) to bring this into the government sphere and argue 1A from there.
I follow some advocacy groups that are pushing hard for 230 protections to be repealed because Pornhub has quite a bit of child porn and rape videos and they want Pornhub held accountable. So there’s a big push from that sector (anti-human trafficking advocacy groups).
I know Dan Bongino is against repealing section 230 bc he thinks it will ultimately hurt free speech more than it helps, but ffs, SOMETHING needs to be done!!
Edit: I don’t know that anyone necessarily wants 230 done away with completely, I kind of worded it poorly; it needs changed to remove some of the vagueness that these sites are exploiting, but regardless, these sites in general need to be exempted from 230 protections.
230 doesn't need to be removed, it needs to be enforced. Only platforms are protected, not publishers.
This is the correct answer.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but then what is the solution bc it’s NOT being enforced?? Dorsey & Zuckerberg have testified and lied multiple times to congress yet nothing happens. Leaving it as is and saying it just needs enforced doesn’t seem to be working...
There's one man ultimately responsible for enforcing the laws in this country.
Nobody that I've heard wants 230 removed, just these censorious platforms taken off then
liberals: End legal bailouts to oil industries destroying our forrests and oceans.
also liberals: how dare you end legal bailouts to big tech so they can just do whatever they want.
Really he's already got an executive order to handle this.
The 2018 executive order.
If youtube has investment dollars from China or any influence from China (they have both) then we should assume this is foreign election interference.
I kind of said that incorrectly, they don’t necessarily want it repealed completely, but do want sites exempted (EARN IT Act legislation). Many say 230 just needs fixed to change the last qualifier of “other questionable content” bc this is the part being exploited to silence conservatives, Trump, or anything not approved by the new world order.
The problem is twofold: Twitter and Youtube are removing stuff that is, for all intents and purposes, harmless but just goes against their ideology while pornhub is allowing all content without any policing and this is allowing child porn and rape videos on their site, which SHOULD be removed.
This isn't fucking hard.
Thats why Digg/Reddit/etc started as link aggregators. They never actually hosted any content (they do now because fuck it there isn't any enforcement)
We already know these "platforms" have the tools and motives to "deplatform" anyone at any time, so they always have been able to stifle free speech. Worries me that all these idiots don't see that.
I completly agree, but the answer isn't some higher authority telling businesses what to do.
it's removing protections that are being abused, decreasing regulations that prevent new entrants to the market, and hold them liable for the content they publish, and allow the private industry to spawn other "better" alternatives.
FOR DAYS AND DAYS AND DAYS. It’s at least once on every relatively popular thread
Spammer be gone