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FollowTheLight 4 points ago +4 / -0

Are we big enough yet to FOX them?

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2008RonPaul2012 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thing is fox is explicitly a news/politics business, so making a political decision like that had instant consequences with its audience.

Youtube is fucking huge. Billions of users worldwide, most of whom are not political, and most of the ones who are lean left. A conservative exodus is not going to make a dent. Any non-political channel that happens to be run by a conservative is not likely to stand up and risk being deplatformed as well. Like for example I subscribe to a lot of guitar channels. I imagine some of them are right wing, yet none of them are going to risk losing their following on the biggest video platform by speaking out.

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309MilitiaSgt 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you forget there's 80 million of us? That's a pretty big dent.

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2008RonPaul2012 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes perhaps if enough people took a stand on this issue, they would make a dent in revenue, but I don't think this is a business decision on Youtube's part either. They are a subsidiary of Google, which is a subsidiary of Alphabet. Within that corporate structure, there are many examples of companies who lose money, but which nevertheless serve a different purpose. This is clearly a political move. I mean don't get me wrong, anyone who wants to ditch goolag products can and should, but my point is we don't have access to the same direct financial pressure points that we did by turning off Fox.

Consider that the largest mobile operating system in the world, by far, is Android, which is owned by Google. Every android device ships with google apps, including youtube. While it is true that youtube makes money off advertisers and paid users, it doesn't have to. Simply by carrying your android phone and using any google service, you are providing data to the mothership, which is then monetized. So even if you never watched another youtube video again, as long as you use other google products, they are insulated from market pressure. And who is to say that Google isn't receiving cash infusions from the CCP to make up for lost revenue? That's just one tiny example.

So while it's a simple ask to get 80 million trump voters to stop watching fox news, it's a different matter to get any significant number of them to stop using their mobile phone operating system. And the main alternatives, by the way, are Apple, which is part of the Big Tech landscape and very likely shares your data with China and/or the NSA, and a bunch of weird Chinese operating systems that spy on you directly. Otherwise you can do some Linux thing, but come on, no significant number of conservatives is going to go through all that. Or of course, you can go back to flip phones. Which maybe is the best option at this point.