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AliceNoMalice 195 points ago +197 / -2

...and don't forget they staged the mass shootings to ENABLE gun control!

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hondo1 76 points ago +76 / -0

Never forget that!

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Infectedblood 74 points ago +74 / -0

And the media glorifies the killers by endlessly showing their faces.

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regenerondon 21 points ago +21 / -0

same as black victims of police brutality

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Infectedblood 13 points ago +13 / -0

Excellent point, just goes to show that there’s a bigger agenda. Disarming Americans and telling blacks they are being hunted down by systemic racism just to name a few

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bubadmt 48 points ago +48 / -0

That's a fact, 100%. They probably even give them the weapons and ammo, then wipe them out so they can't talk.

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DJT4PREZ 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep. This. Disposable shills to make the narrative work. Without this we would likely live in tolerable harmony

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TheRealPizzaPope 36 points ago +36 / -0

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

If you look at the timeline of mass shootings and gun control, it all started happening under the Clinton administration.

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RegularAmerican 24 points ago +24 / -0

I don't think they had to do that with columbine I think that occured naturally. Now sandy hook on the other hand... That was some strange stuff. I am not going to say it didn't happen for sure because I don't really know. But the evidence I have seen doesn't all add up as well as columbine. SH was some kind of psy-op.

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cara_c 16 points ago +16 / -0

Something is definitely wrong with the Sandy Hook story, but Columbine is suspicious, too.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 6 points ago +6 / -0

Some of the Columbine kids had parents in the military, right?

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RegularAmerican 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are you referring to the victims at Columbine? Or the killers

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TruthyBrat 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know someone well, related to a medical first responder. It happened. Now, why that kid was never dealt with is another question. Same as with the kid in Florida.

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Whatyougotson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Some people will vehemently deny mass shootings. That its a ploy to end the 2nd amendment. The lying and deceit you uncover in your life adds to the mistrust you have of the talking hand. I dont know enough to put my life on it whether it was staged or not...but it happenend and people died. Outright outlawing and banning guns is retarded

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42rle 6 points ago +7 / -1

Remember "sloppy sniper"?

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KillaKrayon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are you talking about Jonesboro, AR pre- Columbine. Kids oilers the Fire Alarm and sniped from across the road?

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trollkin0331 61 points ago +63 / -2

Gun control never sounds reasonable. Only a cuck would say something so stupid and feminine.

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trollkin0331 23 points ago +23 / -0

It's not a hard question. Removing legal access to weapons that are required to effectively defend yourself and your property is shitting all over that natural-born right (and obligation to do so).

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Isthisusedtoo 13 points ago +13 / -0

If they fear you they won’t fuck with you - some bar owner in Long Island.

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persiaprince 4 points ago +4 / -0

canacucks dont have the second amendment

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or the first

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 10 points ago +13 / -3

Username checks out.

There is no need to attack. He wrote a sensible comment. Try being respectful. It's actually a rule, one of the very few we have.

It's evident that he's saying gun control isn't reasonable.

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trollkin0331 2 points ago +8 / -6

muh username

If we're going to start throwing rules around, I'll cite you for the last one - don't be dumb. Anyone who thinks people who think gun control advocates sound reasonable at any point is also dumb.

Save your feelings.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 10 points ago +11 / -1

That's not what the person you responded to said. He's on our side.

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trollkin0331 2 points ago +6 / -4

He may be on our side, but anyone who thinks any amount of gun control even "sounds reasonable" (his words) needs to be corrected, because they're being dumb, feminine and acting like a cuck.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 8 points ago +8 / -0

Read better. There's not that much nuance to sort through.

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trollkin0331 2 points ago +4 / -2

Since you've clarified, I will believe you that you don't think it sounds reasonable, but your original post as it is written is correctly interpreted as implying you believed it originally sounded reasonable.

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Ogcarvattack 3 points ago +4 / -1

We fight for you as well our northern fren! Don't let those chicoms take you over in their winter exercises your cuckminister invited them to have in your country. I thought china has winter too... The boog is neigh stay frosty. And HOLD THE LINE!

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nothing says smart like inviting the guys buying your country and government to come over and learn how your tiny army fights.

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trollkin0331 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

I am glad to hear it. I don't envy the battle (that hopefully even happens) canadians face in the future, as I believe it will pale in comparison to the challenges that my country currently faces. I earnestly wish you good luck with that.

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cosmicspiritwarrior 3 points ago +3 / -0

There is a canadian lawyer with a v-lawg I follow on youtube, I was hoping he would explain some of the Canadian stuff but all eyes are on USA now and he spends all his time consulting with American lawyers and talking about the USA cases, nothing interesting going on in Canada with all the shutdowns I guess.

He does talk about hos he didn't know the USA hod so many more legal protections than we do, but then goes on to muse that he guesses it doesn't matter since our courts ignore them and just find bs reasons to throw crap out and stomp over our rights.

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cosmicspiritwarrior 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wish more people in the cities felt that way, instead of feeling like the cities are all that matters and everyone else is a bunch of idiots who don't matter. (despite the people they insult doing all the real work in the country), lots of them still have pretty big blinders on. the propaganda is thick.

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JKillen 3 points ago +3 / -0

They wouldn't dare. (Assuming they are the gun control shills)

That's why they have to do it in a way to make people demand it. Like all the other cocksucker bullshit they've pushed on everyone from tweens to the elderly like Black lives muhter and failing to mention even once how 2% of a group that makes up 15% of our population commit over HALF of all gun homicides.

Leave out how half of all gunshot deaths are suicides.

Tragic as they fucking are, I can't imagine getting that call, there's the equivalent of a mass shooting every week in Chiraq. Sometimes a day on the weekends.

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julianReyes 7 points ago +7 / -0

Trudeau is related to Fidel Castro.

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AtlanticPede 6 points ago +6 / -0

Guy wishes he was in the EU, fucking cuck

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tootoo22 5 points ago +5 / -0

He used the same trick the Democrats used in Minnesota, but on a national scale. Jacked up immigration numbers, and then lowered the years needed to become a citizen from 5 years to 3. Basically imported a shit tonne of people and stuck then into strategic ridings to do the hard jobs Canadians won't do, like voting Liberal (our Democrats).

Even now in a "pandemic", they announced they would bring numbers up to a historic 400k immigrants a year (not counting border hoppers, refugees, and other groups). Trudeau wants Canada at 100 million people by 2100. Not looking forward to being a minority in my own country. /Rant

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chelthing 3 points ago +3 / -0

Low IQ hivemind and heightened crime levels that justify overreach

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NerBolanski 2 points ago +2 / -0

If refugees became because of war, it would be obvious but it is mostly young men and not women or children.another thing to consider is that lot of migrants are coming from countries without war.

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SlugsRocks 2 points ago +2 / -0

What we need is a constitution for we the people by we the people. NOT a fucking Act voted on by politicians who wrote it. Then we can clean house. Until then fuck all will happen. Pissed in west.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

May 1 this year!?! How did I miss this? Fill me in?

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Got_Hot_Snakes 68 points ago +69 / -1

Joe Biden said he is coming for our guns, when they tell you their plans, believe them.

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Dtom13 8 points ago +8 / -0

"That means the lockdown worked and we should keep schools and businesses shut forever!" -Leftist politicians

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Johnfox13 3 points ago +3 / -0

In defense of CIA (wait wat) many schools are operating virtually

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50blessings 52 points ago +52 / -0

I’m spending my very low-middle income wages on gear this very moment to prepare for when Commiefornia decides it wants to bring back internment camps for non-compliant Asians. My armor is nearly complete, and I’m saving everything to buy more gear to supplement my personal defense before they ban literally everything. As an actual patriotic part Chinese American, they’ll try to have me killed or strung up as a public warning.

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50blessings 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yeah I have little opportunity to train cause I live in an area that isn’t very conducive to being able to train outside. I intend to wear the carrier w/ plates when I go exercise to get used to the weight, and while I’m not peak male fitness, I’m in good shape, esp. considering I did manual labor for about 2 years until recently. I may just be another worker ant, but I’m not about to be crushed under the heel of tyranny. Everyone can prepare; save for some gear, plan contingencies, and get in reasonable shape.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 7 points ago +7 / -0

I would like to encourage you that Asians won't be the specific target. Preparing is necessary.

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50blessings 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah it’ll be a shitshow for everyone, but Chinese Americans who betray their Chinese heritage will suffer some of the most severe treatment if they get their way. Whether it’s the gulag or pubic execution to make a statement. I’m also part Japanese, which likely equates me to impure vermin to the hardcore Chinese Communists. Not only would I be considered a rebel and traitor but also someone of tainted blood, a proxy to vent their old WWII hatred on.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ah! You're assuming a Red Dawn scenario, foreign takeover.

While I find it highly unlikely, I also look at the way to avoid it: don't oppose our military. If we have to fight, we get one night before they deploy in the morning to quell everything. Make sure what they find after the dust settles is a clear mandate of the people.

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50blessings 5 points ago +5 / -0

I wish I had the resources to build up an organization like my namesake; an organization dedicated to preserving American pride that also served to organize armed patriots, although not with a terroristic bent like the actual 50 Blessings from Hotline Miami.

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 26 points ago +26 / -0

It’s just a Red Flag Law, why are you afraid of common sense gun control?—Some asshat at CNN or Dan Crenshaw

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OwnaLib87 21 points ago +21 / -0

or Dan Crenshaw

Oof. This one still hurts.

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes it does.

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Dr0neRec0very 11 points ago +14 / -3

Dan Crenshaw enters the chat.

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vtanon59 91 points ago +92 / -1

At that point getting shot is a lot better than being a slave for the rest of your life.

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lenchodahated 2 points ago +2 / -0

they won’t let us die. they will just torture/electrocute us

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BoatingAccident 44 points ago +45 / -1

Then your whole family and every generation after becomes permanent slaves. No. It can never be allowed to happen here.

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OZ00MSTALLGEESE 24 points ago +25 / -1

I would literally rather die than not be able to call faggots faggots

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Margincrew 17 points ago +18 / -1

Based! Odds are they would be a Soros faggot!

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juicemoney9 10 points ago +11 / -1

Dude re-education camp is going to be so sweet this year. I heard theyre bringing the kayaks back!

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 8 points ago +8 / -0

Hmmm, paper kayaks won’t do so well in the Green New Deal Camp.

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AngryAsian 105 points ago +106 / -1

Imagine being black, being a millionaire from playing a game, and then hating on the country that made you a millionaire while sucking a country's dick that literally hates you because you're black and still has slavery because you're a dumb jogger who doesn't understand where your shoes come from...this person is Lebron James

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TrumpAndGodWin 22 points ago +22 / -0

Great and concise, please run for office or do a podcast. Too many people take too long to get to the important points when we're in a dangerous time.

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Johnfox13 8 points ago +8 / -0

Then notice how you lose all your money 💰 and then blame....

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thewashambro 4 points ago +4 / -0

racisms?

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conservativefrank 72 points ago +73 / -1

I hear they have free showers.

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WU_HAN_FRU 38 points ago +38 / -0

You have to work making Amazon shit to earn enough Obamabucks to get a shower

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Gilliais 18 points ago +18 / -0

Keeps you occupied while they wait for an order from an organ match.

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endthefed11 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yep. There is a reason Chinese medical centers are at the forefront of transplant research.

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 10 points ago +10 / -0

And three square meals of pig slop a day! Ahhhh, Communism 🙏🏻.

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WU_HAN_FRU 7 points ago +7 / -0

🎵 The best part of waking up 🎶

Is government gruel in your cup! 🎶

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 7 points ago +7 / -0

Tom-“Hey Phil, how’s your slop today?”

Phil-“Not too bad Tom, there’s a noticeable lack of rat shit in it today. How’s yours Bill?”

Bill-“Well, after chasing it with my hot pot of sewer water, my slop doesn’t taste as much like despair and re-education today....”

“dingggggggggg”

P.A. Announcer: “Today, Campers, we are going to “teach” you about fifty-seven genders, forty gender pronoun, how four year olds can decide on hormone therapies, and how men can be women and women can be men despite what the Colonialist science books used to say. If you refuse this “education”, no dinner for you and the hole is where you go. Give thanks to your glorious leaders President Xi Jinping and Czar Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for another glorious day in Camp Woebegone in Green New Deal Zone 13.”

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WU_HAN_FRU 5 points ago +5 / -0

REEEEEEEEEENGGGG

ThumpThump.

"Campers observed to be smiling or laughing will be given the hose. C'mon, campers. We don't want a repeat of last Thursday, do we? When something funny happens, just try to think about the privilege your skin affords you, or your many crimes, for which we have signed and sworn statements from all of you. That's all for now. Have a penitent weekend!"

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TrumpAndGodWin 6 points ago +6 / -0

Klaus Schwab ... World Economic Forum: We Can be "Conditioned" to Eat Weeds and Bugs to Save Us From Climate Change.

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 5 points ago +5 / -0

The last time people listened to somebody with a remotely German or Austrian sounding name, several million Jews died.

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Russian_Hacker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah.

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conservativefrank 3 points ago +3 / -0

Please, sir, can I have some more.

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TuckerCarlsonsTie 3 points ago +3 / -0

2+2=5, right Inmate 435678?

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julianReyes 4 points ago +4 / -0

Gen Z stands for Gen Zyklon.

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IvIA6A 1 point ago +1 / -0

Und ousdoor acktivitees ya.

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conservativefrank 2 points ago +2 / -0

Outdoor Activity: Ve now march to ze shovers!

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errydaktal 61 points ago +63 / -2

That's where all trump supporters are going if Biden gets in

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TendiesHitTheFloor 31 points ago +31 / -0

Good thing we aren’t going to let Biden get anywhere! Other than his basement.

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TendiesHitTheFloor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thanks same to you pede!

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kmillz 6 points ago +6 / -0

Let the tendies hit the floor

Let the tendies hit the floor

Let the tendies hit the floor

Let the tendies hit the floooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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AussieTrumpFan 2 points ago +2 / -0

** Squints eyes ** That looks like a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to me.

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Got_Hot_Snakes 46 points ago +47 / -1

This is their goal, COVID lockdowns, restrictions and mandates were a trial run to see how we would comply. They will get much more drastic going forward

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Got_Hot_Snakes 7 points ago +7 / -0

cracks window

"We didn't listen"

rolls window back up

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priestessnico 6 points ago +6 / -0

Because there was no pushback. Our collective fault.

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thelastlast 5 points ago +6 / -1

yup. let's redeem ourselves in the upcoming.

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Wtf_socialismreally 2 points ago +2 / -0

All the "wait until the election" stuff.

It worked, but so much fraud despite all that.

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Cyer6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not in Texas. We still have masks and the local media still does everything they can to hype it up to Black Plague levels, but we're open and as much as I've railed on him, Abbott is not capitulating anymore (so far). Plus we injected a lot of red into our state this year including the judiciary. Glad this state is standing strong like a few others.

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trollkin0331 14 points ago +14 / -0

They're hoping the blue and green is on their side. And you'd have to be super naive to think that there aren't some of those willing to do their evil bidding.

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thewashambro 1 point ago +1 / -0

You'd have to be naive to assume a large percentage of either would. Soldiers aren't robots, and 70% of them vote republican while another 20 percent votes libertarian. The left hates cops and vice versa. The army higher ups are a little sketchy but we have state National Guards if it ever comes to that.

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NerBolanski 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don’t hate cops but many cops support globohomo.

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trollkin0331 2 points ago +2 / -0

a) I said some

b) The amount required to put down a rebellion would be dependent on the amount of people willing to rebel

c) Your post demonstrates you are way more naïve than I am

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thewashambro 1 point ago +1 / -0

Naive how? For mentioning a statistic?

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trollkin0331 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd be naive if I believed those statistics you pulled out of your ass, and you'd be naive if you thought that even 10% of the military mobilizing wouldn't immediately crush the will of a huge percentage of people willing to stand up for the cause.

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bubadmt 10 points ago +10 / -0

It honestly seems like all roads lead to war. If we win and Biden doesn't get in, they'll riot. If they steal it, there's a guaranteed war.

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TrumpAndGodWin 6 points ago +7 / -1

Guns are only part of it, we have to maintain control over our military. If we don't the enemy could release very deadly biological weapons on us (mouse pox, airborn Ebola, etc) because they wouldn't have to fear a "fire and fury" response. And civilians don't have the ability to stop high altitude drones etc dropping it on us.

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RegularAmerican 3 points ago +3 / -0

That might help us if they just hit the urban coastal population centers on the west coast.

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thewashambro 1 point ago +1 / -0

only 9% of service members vote democrat. I'm sure getting hands on those wouldn't be too hard.

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StopTheMindvirus 7 points ago +11 / -4

will you? when 3 cops knock on the door with a government order and you're alone with your family? They aren't going to come when you have 1,000 patriots at your back.

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koshersquid 6 points ago +6 / -0

What cops? Because it's a federal law, so they'll have to send the feds on down. Everyone will hear about it when that happens.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

No one will hear anything. The total media blackout has been ramping up for months.

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thewashambro 4 points ago +4 / -0

We've got TD, and the only person with the internet killswitch Obummer put in place is DJT. Not to mention how if the internet was cut off near any major city, it would go to hell and all the liberals would die.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wouldn't that be karma if we could speak freely while they couldn't?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

3? Try 8 - 12. Fight to the death, take as many as possible with you. That's our certain future unless we stop the steal before 1/20. 1/6 is final deadline.

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lilree 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

Magazines hold 30. Consider that several of us have pretty clear terms for what constitutes tyranny, and once those lines are crossed or we have reliable evidence that they've been crossed, it's open season (the Constitution even gives you this right to justified violence). They'd have to confiscate your guns and not let anyone else find out about it, and do that to everyone! I dont think so. They'd start dying from "covid". Confiscations would quickly become public knowledge. They'd have to do it all at once, and I doubt they have the manpower to do that. Consider that they'd also be dealing with people who have 80% lowers that aren't registered, so if those guys simply hide their 80%s and hand over their shitty registered guns, then they're still armed and in the fight, except now they have the LEGAL blessing of the Constitution to kill their oppressors.

TL:DR; we'd have to bend over and take it like Canada for them to succeed in your scenario.

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they-see-me-trollin 1 point ago +1 / -0

the first few are going to be "easy" because people won't expect them. the next hundred will be bloodbaths. the next thousand won't happen because globalists would be issuing orders from bunkers to people who don't want to get shot at.

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rush 31 points ago +31 / -0

The people who call the USA systematically racist are simultaneously getting back door deals with the CCP. Absolutely infuriating. Lebron James is a prime example

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Johnfox13 4 points ago +5 / -1

Sounds like a conspiracy but it is true. South Park did an episode on it, HA HA (Mickey mouse)

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Slickrick941 3 points ago +3 / -0

As we're going to find out with Rep Salwell in California with his "Fang fang" intern, the loudest voices in the mainstream are the most compromised. CCP captures on film compromising acts and then blackmails them to spew the stupid shit that they do. It's in Hollywood and DC and everywhere in between. They all have documented dirt

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Skywise 30 points ago +32 / -2

Waiting for YouTube and Etsy to ban discussion of them.

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Sugar4Brains 16 points ago +16 / -0

Etsy? lol

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TommyLasordasBallBag 11 points ago +11 / -0

The real power broker behind big tech...duh! Try to keep up, things move fast around here

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DongSquad420 7 points ago +7 / -0

Rofl, etsy has like no power but its the most lib site ever

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PaigeAshley 28 points ago +31 / -3

Terrifying. Soul crushing. Horrific.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 7 points ago +7 / -0

Coming to a neighborhood near you unless we stop the steal before 1/20. 1/6 is final deadline

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thewashambro 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why. I'd imagine that'd be 1/20.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Too late to stop it then

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thewashambro 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because...

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because JoeBlow's already in. Cic. Military is duty bound to follow him. Public opinion will follow in that direction, even if only reluctantly.

One World Government will successfully take over everything, and there's no recovery.

This is truly freedom's last stand.

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Bax101 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://youtu.be/RR5o43zZSiA

You must be referring to this Documentary called Hard to Believe.

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WishdoctorsSong -5 points ago +9 / -14

Well they're muslims, so not really.

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LFCIRE96 11 points ago +14 / -3

They’re humans. Be a better Christian and don’t say that about a neighbor.

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WishdoctorsSong 7 points ago +10 / -3

The entire history of islam teaches that unless you're willing to do this to muslims, muslims will do this to you. EVERY FUCKING TIME. Not doing this is accepting that you will be overrun.

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Klown_Schwab 6 points ago +7 / -1

I work with a guy from China. He's definitely biased in favor of the CCP but it's interesting to hear his perspective. He's pretty based culturally and laughs at the stupid western Baizuo (Chinese word for sjws).

He said the government tried to integrate Uighurs, gave them affirmative actions programs and treated them with kid gloves for a long time. But they behaved like Muslims in Europe: they'd move to Eastern Chinese cities for the better economy then commit crimes/terrorism/struggle snuggle gangs. In Xinjiang there was an Islamist separatist movement that was carrying out attacks on police/government buildings. A lot of this stuff doesn't get reported in Western media. The crackdown started a few years ago after a series of particularly bad terrorist attacks and regular Chinese citizens were getting pissed off and demanding the government do something about it.

Dunno if it's true but that's what he told me. I'm inclined to believe it because western media loves to portray muslims as innocent victims that dindu nuffin even when they're OBVIOUSLY the aggressors.

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Miasmo 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have a very close friend from China who corroborates much of this.

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Klown_Schwab 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah idk. If you study Muhammad's deeds and teachings you'll quickly see the Islamists and terrorists are closer to true Islam than the moderates.

As much as I dislike Islam as a religion I don't think the government should be able to throw you in prison MERELY for having the wrong beliefs.

There must be some middle ground between Europe's (lack of) response and China's.

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knightofday 5 points ago +6 / -1

This is a very truthful point, its been proven repeatedly for hundreds of years.

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RegularAmerican 6 points ago +6 / -0

China will do this to anyone who believes in God and not the CCP. Christians are next I guarantee itm

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LFCIRE96 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Not putting them in extermination camps? Don’t be ridiculous.

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udt2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

My conspiracy side thinks that China drums up the Muslim Christian hate so we’re distracted. They’ve probably funding ISIS and the rest.

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thelastlast 3 points ago +4 / -1

lol nah.

even the Buddhist monks have been saying 'you can't live next to a rabid dog'.

harmony with nature includes violence.

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Klown_Schwab 6 points ago +6 / -0

Muslims can't get along with anyone. Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, godless chicoms, even other Muslims of slightly different sects.

"If you met an asshole in the morning you met an asshole. If you're meeting assholes all day, YOU'RE the asshole"

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Klown_Schwab 2 points ago +2 / -0

Christians in the Middle East/North Africa didn't "resisted not evil" circa 600AD. They were conquered by Muslims and their descendants gradually became 99% Muslim. Imagine how many of their descendants rejected Jesus and went to hell because they didn't take up arms against Mohammad's invading armies.

The Bible says there's a time for peace and a time for war, a time to love and a time to hate.

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Tartarian-Kingtwo 5 points ago +5 / -0

They'd do the same without thinking twice if the roles were reversed

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acasper 26 points ago +26 / -0

They admit they exist now. They frame them as education camps though.

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captn_crunch 15 points ago +15 / -0

So did Stalin, except he wasn't nearly as subtle about it.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 11 points ago +11 / -0

Re-education camps is the preferred term. We know them as gulags. Also FEMA camps.

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acasper 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’ve watched a lot of the footage available from the press that have been allowed to tour the facilities. It’s haunting.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

I bet it is! This is exactly why I haven't gone down that rabbit hole. Chinese nationals here (not US citizens) are ALL required to bring back info i.e. spy. Knowing the CCP will organ harvest your family if you don't return is highly coercive.

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reddeadpill 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m not surprised the masters of dropping REEEs managed to drop the RE from re-education camp.

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Patrii 24 points ago +24 / -0

While the Uighur are often brought up, we must also remember Falun Gong and Christians are being slaughtered for organ harvesting and wrong think as well. See film, "Hard to Believe".

https://www.swoopfilms.com/hard-to-believe-movie/

It's on YouTube for free... for now.

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AZTrumpFan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Fuck YouTube. Let me say it again...

FUCK YOUTUBE.

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SwanS0ng 22 points ago +25 / -3

I wonder if we'll look back on the horrors that happened in these camps and be ashamed that all we did was shitpost about them because Chinese money prevented anyone who could do anything about it from taking action.

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Johnfox13 13 points ago +13 / -0

Yeah...............

BUT LOOK TRUMP IS LITERALLY HITLER

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Wanderlust 11 points ago +11 / -0

Ashamed? And the alternative is to one man Rambo all the guys free ourselves?

I have zero shame for the awful jobs our politicians are doing. We're doing what we can with what we have. Their blood ain't on our hands.

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Tartarian-Kingtwo 6 points ago +6 / -0

We're not the world police...

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lolzor21 6 points ago +6 / -0

What the fuck can we do without looking like an idiot with a shotgun in a pizza shop?

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DeplorableCentipede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who cares? They're Islamic radicals.

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orthodoxvirginian 21 points ago +23 / -2

Uighurs are mostly Muslim, but the "chill" kind of Muslim from Central Asia that is into Sufism and views jihad as a spiritual battle with sin and all that jazz. That, and they mix Islamic beliefs with the animistic practices that existed before Islam came around in the 700s there.

Besides the human rights abuses, China is really screwing things up for the rest of the world, because due to their persecution of Uighurs, our "friends" in Al Qaida and other Salafist/Wahabbi groups are now getting a lot of support and radicalizing these people. So we may have a new generation of Islamic terrorists as a result.

Thanks, CCP :(

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PoohClimbsTrees 10 points ago +13 / -3

Regardless of what 'flavor' of Islam they are. They still follow a pedophile prophet.

That is only 'chill when compared to other flavors of Islam.

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orthodoxvirginian 12 points ago +14 / -2

I get where you are coming from, but I still don't totally agree. Allow me to elaborate.

For reference, I have degrees in both political science and theology. I'm not throwing that out there to try and suggest I am right because of degrees, but merely to contextualize that I have studied this stuff and my conclusion is that I am 100% against Islam, because it is a political-religious system and it's incompatible with Western values if followed to its logical conclusion.

That being said, Central Asian Islam really is pretty chill per se--not just in relation to other Islamic varieties. For instance, you'll see Buddhists and Hindus engaging in sectarian violence in Asia from time to time, so these religions, although generally more peaceful as a whole than Islam is as a whole, are not without their violent strands.

Central Asian Islam really is a rather mystical, different type of religion, and combining it with the animistic/shamanistic pre-Islamic beliefs is probably a big factor. Many Salafists/Wahabbists view Central Asian Islam as heretical.

Have you ever read Rumi, the founder of Sufism? Lots of great stuff there, but mostly because he was working in Asia Minor and ripping off Orthodox Christian spirituality to convert Christians to Islam. Most of what he says is taken straight out of our mystic writings. That being said, Rumi did practice a variety of Islam that is mystical, internal, and generally peaceful. This is what spread to Central Asia.

Do they still follow a pedo prophet? Of course. Again, I am not a Muslim apologist. But I doubt the average person really gets that Aisha was 9 (keep in mind, a lot of imams and Islamic scholars try to hide this fact) and the folks in Central Asia don't really follow all the hadiths, which is where the really insane stuff is found.

Why am I taking out this much time to write so much? Just because I think that we should be encouraging these mystical varieties of Islam as a kind of reformation of the religion. I view it as similar to how Jews in the OT used to massacre their neighbors' populations, but they don't act like that anymore. I don't think there is a lot of hope for Arab Muslims because of the constant stream of propaganda original to their own language, but these Central Asian Muslims are disconnected enough that I think we could invest money into trying to "break them off" of Islam and reforming it.

But to be clear, I am against Islam 100%, and my preference would be to convert them all to Christianity, but my above proposal would be a compromise or intermediate step.

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PoohClimbsTrees -1 points ago +4 / -5

Do they still follow a pedo prophet? Of course.

That says it all.

The only reason some of them may not know she was 9 is because they don't want to know.

It is not exactly a well kept secret.

Look to a pedo for leadership and guidance is supporting pedophiles.

When the #1 person in a religion is a sicko, the followers are sickos too.

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orthodoxvirginian 6 points ago +8 / -2

No, it pretty much is a well-kept secret to people who are uneducated. Many Islamic imams and scholars claim that Aisha was 13 or 14, which was the generally-accepted age for females to marry in most cultures at that time.

So these people would not consider Mohammad to be a pedophile. We just have the facts and know the truth, so hence why I agreed with the original statement.

I used to try and convert Muslims to Christianity during college. Many of them really are in the dark about a lot of this stuff.

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PoohClimbsTrees 3 points ago +4 / -1

Many of them really are in the dark about a lot of this stuff.

I can see how that is possible. I grew up in a cult with extremely high levels of information control. The amount of things Jehovah's Witnesses don't know about their own cult is insane.

You can show them actual facts with sources and they won't belive it unless it comes from their own religious leaders.

The information is out there, they just don't care to look. Still on them in the long run.

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orthodoxvirginian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for sharing your story, Pede! Back in college, I used to debate all sorts of cultists and other religions, as I was an energetic 18-21 year old who had just gotten into religion deeper myself (I grew up Protestant, dabbled in the Occult in my teens, and ended up becoming an Orthodox Christian, which I have been ever since). I still engage in religious discussions, but not on the same level and certainly not in outright debating style, as I lost a lot of energy for it and straight up debate only "works" with a small percentage of people.

That being said, at the time, I did tons of research on Jehovah's Witnesses. My aunt unfortunately succumbed to them when she was going blind and her eye doctor "took pity on her" and "invited her to a Bible study." Hey, I can't fault JWs for their dedication and techniques, which obviously work on some people, but it's the total information blackout that I disapprove of, which you note.

I used to engage the JWs that came to my door, so they started sending more and more people. Even the guy that did housework for us once ended up being JW. I swear, they have the most sophisticated networking operation (after Mormons, that is). But they will never look at your sources, that's right.

Hence, I resorted to the "plant seeds of doubt" approach. I can read Biblical and Patristic Greek on an elementary level, well enough to get the gist of basic things, and certainly well enough to compare a quote in Greek to the English translation. So when they handed me the booklet, "Should You Believe in the Trinity?" and I saw them massacring a quote from St. Basil the Great (known to be a staunch defender of the Trinity!), I started "asking" the missionary a bunch of questions, playing dumb, about why they were translating the quote wrong, who did the translation, etc. You could see the brain activity fear level rising, but because I was not showing him non-JW stuff, he entertained the discussion for awhile. I can only pray he converted eventually.

Now, fast forward to 2018, and the Venezuelan refugees that moved in next door to me are JWs and while they are cool and don't shove it on me, every time they have friends over, someone is handing me a booklet and asking me what I think about the end of the world LOL.

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GreatNW 8 points ago +8 / -0

While this is mostly true there have been numerous (IMHO justified) Jihadi attacks against China/the CCP.

Several knife attacks and at least one attempted bombing that was thwarted a few years ago.

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orthodoxvirginian 8 points ago +9 / -1

While this wave of persecution is somewhat new, China has been screwing around with Uighurs for decades.

China has two problems with them: a religious problem, and a nationalist problem.

Religiously, the Salafis and Wahabbists have been proselytizing them heavily since the fall of the Soviet Union--they had already been doing this for awhile in India and Pakistan--using the money the Saudis get from us buying their oil, they then fund madrasas to teach Wahabbism, which is NOT native to that area, Central Asia having its own indigenous variety of Islam (see my other comment for additional info). This influence has spread across the border into China, leading to a religious awakening of these people, which scares the hell out of China, not just because they are Muslims, but because they are religious at all and can't be controlled.

Politically/nationalistically, Uighurs are Turks, so Turkey has been trying to support the East Turkestan movement to destabilize China and strengthen its own Pan-Turkic political movement, so China is scared they will try to form their own country.

Agree with you about the justifiably of the attacks the Uighurs have done in past years in China. If we follow the logic of the US Declaration of Independence, then the Uighurs have every right to resist China with violence to free their own nation, or alternatively, seek a federalized solution with China where they would have real autonomy, rather than fake autonomy.

Well, I am just rambling now, since I find this topic so interesting; I will stop now. :)

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GreatNW 1 point ago +1 / -0

The history of the Turkish/steppe people vs China is incredibly fascinating! Very interesting how the USSR used them after the Sino/Soviet split.

I'm also kinda amazed Turkey and/or prominent Muslim countries like Saudia or Pakistan seem to care so little about the situation. That plus the pretty widely spread Hui people in China it seems like there is real potential for escalation, although I hear they have been used to oppress their fellow Muslims in Xinjiang apparently resulting in a chant of "Kill the Han, kill the Hui." in the 2009 riots.

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DeplorableCentipede 0 points ago +1 / -1

which scares the hell out of China, not just because they are Muslims, but because they are religious at all and can't be controlled

China has tons of Buddhists, but you don't see them being put in camps.

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orthodoxvirginian 2 points ago +3 / -1

Wrong.

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GreatNW 1 point ago +1 / -0 (edited)

Where did I justify it even a little bit?

You very much misunderstood my comment. I was saying its justified for those massively oppressed people to fight their authoritarian government, I don't like the targeting of innocent civilians but as a general note it seems somewhat justified when you're being actively genocided.

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MechaCornpop -1 points ago +3 / -4

"Guys, don't disrespect Muslims, they might RADICALIZE!!"

Nah, fuck muzzies.

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orthodoxvirginian 0 points ago +1 / -1

LOL, for real?

First of all, no one said anything about respecting Muslims. The point was not to genocide Uighurs.

You don't think it's a good idea to prevent terrorism by preventing human rights violations against these people and investing resources toward supporting factions in Islam that are reformist? Seems to me the alternative is to allow terrorist attacks to happen and then get involved in retributive wars that engulf our country for decades.

I'd rather try the preventative strategy.

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MechaCornpop -1 points ago +1 / -2

The point was not to genocide Uighurs.

Why?

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christianknight 0 points ago +1 / -1

That applies to anyone, when you have no friends, you are driven to extreme measures.

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MechaCornpop 0 points ago +1 / -1

If that was true, why are we going to court with the Left instead of just physically removing them?

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christianknight 1 point ago +1 / -0

jury box then ammo box and all that

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PlateOwner 16 points ago +16 / -0

I don't see many happy campers.

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OrngeManBad 15 points ago +15 / -0

This is what they want for America. Fuck you Commies it's not happening

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Dangle 13 points ago +13 / -0

The green barbed wire really invokes the holiday spirit!

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LaurenDS 13 points ago +13 / -0

People so full of shit. "Itll never happen again."

China has everyone wrapped around their finger. We already let the CCP take over. Fuck just look at our media its not actually that much different.

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Johnfox13 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good point

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 11 points ago +11 / -0

Gee where's cair or the Muslim brotherhood?

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BlancheNegre 8 points ago +8 / -0

They are just vocational schools bro, Xi promised!

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randomopinion 8 points ago +8 / -0

A lot of words for muslims,no words for how the christians are treated in china

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OnlyTrump20 5 points ago +5 / -0

On the plus side, Asians represent the fastest growing number of converts to Christianity.

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randomopinion 3 points ago +3 / -0

The muslims say they are 1.5 billion, doesn't sound like a minority to me

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Johnfox13 2 points ago +2 / -0

Involuntary organ donor? :(

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GnosticAwakening 7 points ago +8 / -1

Surreal to see a concentration camp in real time...

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Johnfox13 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hey leftists! 👋 👋 what is that! Is that a Hitler camp? No?

Okay move along.

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CoreyAnder 6 points ago +6 / -0

Well, they’re Muslims. How else would you handle them? Islam is a cancer on both western and eastern civilizations.

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Ninki333 6 points ago +7 / -1
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Ticklebittys 5 points ago +5 / -0

What did they do with there women and children I dont see any

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PaigeAshley 7 points ago +8 / -1

It's a nightmare and atrocity no human beings should have to suffer! :(

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standonthewall 6 points ago +6 / -0

They are forcibly sterilized and sent to their own camps.

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OnlyTrump20 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think the women are chained to sewing machines in the slave labor camps, making clothing for AOC's company.

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standonthewall 1 point ago +1 / -0

I bet they pay her well. Sounds to me like a Green New Deal.

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grndmrshlgando 5 points ago +5 / -0

it's ok when china does it

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TrumpAndGodWin 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's different for the media Chinese.

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R4g3 5 points ago +6 / -1

Muslims kill Christians everywhere around the world en masse, can't say this spoonful of karma bothers me one bit.

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zedrexvsyrex -1 points ago +1 / -2

That is blatantly false. Western countries (i.e. Christian) constantly invaded Muslim lands and killed millions. It's not even remotely close. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. Over 500,000 children slaughtered for no reason at all. Just stop you fool.

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R4g3 0 points ago +1 / -1

Fuck muslims. They better leave the West and soon. They're the same as the kosher mafia, PARASITES.

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zedrexvsyrex 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lmao no they’re not, not even remotely the same. They’re exact opposites in fact. Do you know anything about people different from the ones living in your small town? These are the true followers of Jesus.

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Jimmy33 4 points ago +4 / -0

They must have new camps established for the Hong Konger arrivals.

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Widowmaker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Perfect example of left wing idealism and why we shall never give up our 2nd amendment rights!

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UkDeplorable 4 points ago +4 / -0

Let us out so we can bomb, behead, rape, honour kill etc

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BoobRadley 1 point ago +1 / -0

They have no off switch, it eventually includes everyone.

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Jutts 4 points ago +4 / -0

Cameltoe Kumala rubs one out whenever she imagines what she can do to conservatives and the Constitution if she ever gets into the WH.

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Jutts 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sorry 😐

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TheFreeSpeechRadical 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nazis put jews in concentration camps. World loses its mind. CCP put muslims in concentration camps. No one bats an eye.

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NerBolanski 2 points ago +2 / -0

Did New York Rome’s really cover it up or did NYT push America deceptively into war?

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thesas 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yip

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Donaldsweiner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Weird how the CCP treats Muslims like this but has had no terrorist attacks. You would think they would be #1

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BenPoolDiceTuckStyx 3 points ago +3 / -0

Down with Islamophobia!

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mugatucrazypills 3 points ago +3 / -0

I only see Biden supporters here.

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Adhal 3 points ago +3 / -0

Imagine if all those people decide death on their feet was better than life on their knees, this would end quick

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TheClassicalLiberal 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah. Like that Michigan State Rep who threatened violence.

She would be the first to line us up and send us to be re-educated

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Updoot 3 points ago +3 / -0

National Lampoon's Uyghur Concentration Camp Vacation

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Updoot 3 points ago +3 / -0

His dad drags him along on the wackiest adventures!

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BigHandsome91 3 points ago +3 / -0

What sexist pigs. Looks like they exclude women from those fun holiday parties.

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BidensHairyLega 1 point ago +1 / -0

Read up on what is happening to their wives while they are in the Holiday camps. Super fucked up.

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Tenspot20 3 points ago +3 / -0

Chinese Mexicans

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Barrysstash 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dear Islam, got something for you to go attack...

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GeauxTrump20 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is what the United States will look like if any liberal Democrat is allowed to hold office ever again🔥🔥🔥

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HunterSthompson420 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Government wants to have F-22 Raptors and Nukes but You can't have a 20 Round Magazine !