While this wave of persecution is somewhat new, China has been screwing around with Uighurs for decades.
China has two problems with them: a religious problem, and a nationalist problem.
Religiously, the Salafis and Wahabbists have been proselytizing them heavily since the fall of the Soviet Union--they had already been doing this for awhile in India and Pakistan--using the money the Saudis get from us buying their oil, they then fund madrasas to teach Wahabbism, which is NOT native to that area, Central Asia having its own indigenous variety of Islam (see my other comment for additional info). This influence has spread across the border into China, leading to a religious awakening of these people, which scares the hell out of China, not just because they are Muslims, but because they are religious at all and can't be controlled.
Politically/nationalistically, Uighurs are Turks, so Turkey has been trying to support the East Turkestan movement to destabilize China and strengthen its own Pan-Turkic political movement, so China is scared they will try to form their own country.
Agree with you about the justifiably of the attacks the Uighurs have done in past years in China. If we follow the logic of the US Declaration of Independence, then the Uighurs have every right to resist China with violence to free their own nation, or alternatively, seek a federalized solution with China where they would have real autonomy, rather than fake autonomy.
Well, I am just rambling now, since I find this topic so interesting; I will stop now. :)
The history of the Turkish/steppe people vs China is incredibly fascinating! Very interesting how the USSR used them after the Sino/Soviet split.
I'm also kinda amazed Turkey and/or prominent Muslim countries like Saudia or Pakistan seem to care so little about the situation. That plus the pretty widely spread Hui people in China it seems like there is real potential for escalation, although I hear they have been used to oppress their fellow Muslims in Xinjiang apparently resulting in a chant of "Kill the Han, kill the Hui." in the 2009 riots.
You very much misunderstood my comment. I was saying its justified for those massively oppressed people to fight their authoritarian government, I don't like the targeting of innocent civilians but as a general note it seems somewhat justified when you're being actively genocided.
While this is mostly true there have been numerous (IMHO justified) Jihadi attacks against China/the CCP.
Several knife attacks and at least one attempted bombing that was thwarted a few years ago.
While this wave of persecution is somewhat new, China has been screwing around with Uighurs for decades.
China has two problems with them: a religious problem, and a nationalist problem.
Religiously, the Salafis and Wahabbists have been proselytizing them heavily since the fall of the Soviet Union--they had already been doing this for awhile in India and Pakistan--using the money the Saudis get from us buying their oil, they then fund madrasas to teach Wahabbism, which is NOT native to that area, Central Asia having its own indigenous variety of Islam (see my other comment for additional info). This influence has spread across the border into China, leading to a religious awakening of these people, which scares the hell out of China, not just because they are Muslims, but because they are religious at all and can't be controlled.
Politically/nationalistically, Uighurs are Turks, so Turkey has been trying to support the East Turkestan movement to destabilize China and strengthen its own Pan-Turkic political movement, so China is scared they will try to form their own country.
Agree with you about the justifiably of the attacks the Uighurs have done in past years in China. If we follow the logic of the US Declaration of Independence, then the Uighurs have every right to resist China with violence to free their own nation, or alternatively, seek a federalized solution with China where they would have real autonomy, rather than fake autonomy.
Well, I am just rambling now, since I find this topic so interesting; I will stop now. :)
The history of the Turkish/steppe people vs China is incredibly fascinating! Very interesting how the USSR used them after the Sino/Soviet split.
I'm also kinda amazed Turkey and/or prominent Muslim countries like Saudia or Pakistan seem to care so little about the situation. That plus the pretty widely spread Hui people in China it seems like there is real potential for escalation, although I hear they have been used to oppress their fellow Muslims in Xinjiang apparently resulting in a chant of "Kill the Han, kill the Hui." in the 2009 riots.
China has tons of Buddhists, but you don't see them being put in camps.
Wrong.
Where did I justify it even a little bit?
You very much misunderstood my comment. I was saying its justified for those massively oppressed people to fight their authoritarian government, I don't like the targeting of innocent civilians but as a general note it seems somewhat justified when you're being actively genocided.