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CovfefeKaren 13 points ago +16 / -3

You think they don’t rage against you. As far as Muslims are concerned, you’re an infidel. And, infidels must die.

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learntocode -5 points ago +8 / -13

I dont want to dox myself, but I have Muslim family and from my experience you are incorrect. But that is likely because I am too close to the issue and you are too far away from it so we wont agree, but that is okay so long as we can both live up to American laws and norms.

That is the only ground I have ever felt secure in my identity: being American.

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sun_wolf 0 points ago +4 / -4

People are so traumatized by ISIS and Islamic terror in general that they are putting up a strong defense against Islam. That is understandable. At the same time, I think it is interesting that President Trump’s movements in the Middle East have really slowed down Islamic terror around the world. I suspect a lot of these terror cells were taken out behind the scenes. As that has happened, new waves of moderate Muslims don’t appear to be picking up the mantle of terrorism in place of the radicals, and that makes it seem like a lot of them are probably a lot more pacified and westernized than we thought, and that they’re not actually inclined to wage Holy War in the name of Mohammed. If ISIS took over they would probably happily live under an Islamic caliphate, so their loyalty to America is probably less than average, but if ISIS gets whipped they seem equally happy to live in the western world practicing their religion non-violently.

Islamic immigration is still generally a bad idea though because their value system is so much different than America’s, and in many ways the two are fundamentally incompatible.

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okboomer59 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Some schools of Sufi, etc. explicitly renounce aggression. Shi'a extremism, Wahabbism, and its Soviet-spawned offspring can be contained. By opening pipelines and letting fracking boom, Trump has made America energy independent, making actual progress toward peace in the freakin' Middle East!