This is insane. What is the point of paper ballots to verify the vote, if the vote does not happen until after it is scanned into the computer and diddled by election workers?
If there is a problem where too many ballots are hard to read or over voted, then have a verifier machine for the voter to read the ballot and confirm it is OK before submission.
Once it is submitted, it should be untouched by human hands unless audited.
Overvoted ballots should NOT pass go. NOT collect $200. If the machine notices an overvote, it's a bad ballot. So sorry, but your vote doesn't count. Either get better at filling the bubble in next time or get a new provider for the scanners/machines.
The problem is that no matter what, there's always going to be a way to cheat. Let's say that ballots have a unique QR code attached so you can't run the same ballot more than once. This is a cool idea. Problem is, how is it checking? You'd need a hashed list of the QR's on every single machine that needs to be updated for every single election or they would need to be networked and hit a central server for the check/verification process. Who runs the updating of the software? Can we trust them? Who runs the server? Can we trust them? What if there's a network outage and the machines can't connect? Does the election just stop?
There are some solutions to these issues (cell routers), but then we're just adding complexity to an already complex process. The most secure way I can think of is making a national holiday for voting day, required ID to vote, paper ballots only, restrictions on absentee voting (ban mail in voting altogether except for deployed servicemen), purging the voter rolls every 4 years. When you count the votes, you have one group count, another group verify the count with a recount team. Discrepancies over 0.5% triggers an audit automatically. Each group has oversight from Republican/Democrat who can challenge the count process at any time for any vote. It then goes to a third group for review. All counts are then verified, confirmed, and all challenges settled or the vote discarded. Rep/Dem oversight needs to both sign off on the count or needs to be overridden by a 2/3 majority. Places where you can vote should also be restricted to 3-4 places max for large cities. 1-2 for towns. It can create lines. So sad. If you can't wait, you can't vote. No ballots will be counted unless there is oversight from both sides. If there isn't one, it doesn't get unsealed and it doesn't get counted unless both are there, in person, to view the process and are able to see/read the ballot.
You make it a labor intensive task and you do it on purpose. Automation means less oversight and less hands touching it. This is bad. For every person looking at the votes, that's one person that can call out cheating.
The true leftists are so demoralized they can't even recognize truth anymore. You show them that vid and it's like... "FAKE!" and nothing you can say will ever change their minds. Trump is bad. Right wingers are nazis.
We are going to have to do some serious deprogramming on them.. or just drop them out of helicopters. I really don't care which.
It's honestly only about what 10% of the country and not a good 10%. If there were more they wouldn't have to cheat 72 different ways just to win an election.
Any election conducted with these machines cannot be trusted. You have direct fraud (via programming) or indirect fraud with the machines (via manual overrides/modifications). I personally saw vote counts increase in counties immediately when installed (likely indirect fraud...running fake ballots or multiple passes). They all have to go.
What are you talking about?? That one republican observer could see everything happening in the 5,000,000 sq ft building. This claim of not being able to see anything has been DeBUnKed!!
Yeah that was another part of the video that I edited out. At the 4:13 mark when you can hear the guy in the background say, "alright I want yall to step outside with me" They then close the door and take the phone out of the room to the window to show that they are about 6-8 ft away and would not be able to tell what the person on the computer is doing. This was originally 2 videos from youtube that were posted to twitter. I cut the videos and put them together and tried to only include the important parts to make it as short as possible. I felt it was already too long and many people wouldn't watch it. The most important part is at the end so I hope people watch it all.
So you wouldnt be able to see any of this happening if observing from like 20 feet away, let alone no one observing at all...
The vote counts being reported are essentially fiction.
Yep, this is the epitome of an "untrusted system".
This is insane. What is the point of paper ballots to verify the vote, if the vote does not happen until after it is scanned into the computer and diddled by election workers?
If there is a problem where too many ballots are hard to read or over voted, then have a verifier machine for the voter to read the ballot and confirm it is OK before submission.
Once it is submitted, it should be untouched by human hands unless audited.
Overvoted ballots should NOT pass go. NOT collect $200. If the machine notices an overvote, it's a bad ballot. So sorry, but your vote doesn't count. Either get better at filling the bubble in next time or get a new provider for the scanners/machines.
The problem is that no matter what, there's always going to be a way to cheat. Let's say that ballots have a unique QR code attached so you can't run the same ballot more than once. This is a cool idea. Problem is, how is it checking? You'd need a hashed list of the QR's on every single machine that needs to be updated for every single election or they would need to be networked and hit a central server for the check/verification process. Who runs the updating of the software? Can we trust them? Who runs the server? Can we trust them? What if there's a network outage and the machines can't connect? Does the election just stop?
There are some solutions to these issues (cell routers), but then we're just adding complexity to an already complex process. The most secure way I can think of is making a national holiday for voting day, required ID to vote, paper ballots only, restrictions on absentee voting (ban mail in voting altogether except for deployed servicemen), purging the voter rolls every 4 years. When you count the votes, you have one group count, another group verify the count with a recount team. Discrepancies over 0.5% triggers an audit automatically. Each group has oversight from Republican/Democrat who can challenge the count process at any time for any vote. It then goes to a third group for review. All counts are then verified, confirmed, and all challenges settled or the vote discarded. Rep/Dem oversight needs to both sign off on the count or needs to be overridden by a 2/3 majority. Places where you can vote should also be restricted to 3-4 places max for large cities. 1-2 for towns. It can create lines. So sad. If you can't wait, you can't vote. No ballots will be counted unless there is oversight from both sides. If there isn't one, it doesn't get unsealed and it doesn't get counted unless both are there, in person, to view the process and are able to see/read the ballot.
You make it a labor intensive task and you do it on purpose. Automation means less oversight and less hands touching it. This is bad. For every person looking at the votes, that's one person that can call out cheating.
This is beyond ridiculous. This is fucking insanity. This video alone, in my opinion, is enough to nullify the entire election.
Some people do not want to see. Maybe 30% of the country? Logic and reason are great until the other side wonβt engage in it.
The true leftists are so demoralized they can't even recognize truth anymore. You show them that vid and it's like... "FAKE!" and nothing you can say will ever change their minds. Trump is bad. Right wingers are nazis.
We are going to have to do some serious deprogramming on them.. or just drop them out of helicopters. I really don't care which.
It's honestly only about what 10% of the country and not a good 10%. If there were more they wouldn't have to cheat 72 different ways just to win an election.
After seeing this, who can say that Cali is truly a blue state?? How do we know that Pelosi truly gets elected in SF, CA??
This system shows that if you pay engineers enough money they will design the system to be shitty enough to meet your corrupt specs.
Any election conducted with these machines cannot be trusted. You have direct fraud (via programming) or indirect fraud with the machines (via manual overrides/modifications). I personally saw vote counts increase in counties immediately when installed (likely indirect fraud...running fake ballots or multiple passes). They all have to go.
I know. How can it be that you have an outcome, but no way to demonstrate it.
What are you talking about?? That one republican observer could see everything happening in the 5,000,000 sq ft building. This claim of not being able to see anything has been DeBUnKed!!
PREBOOONKED
Yeah that was another part of the video that I edited out. At the 4:13 mark when you can hear the guy in the background say, "alright I want yall to step outside with me" They then close the door and take the phone out of the room to the window to show that they are about 6-8 ft away and would not be able to tell what the person on the computer is doing. This was originally 2 videos from youtube that were posted to twitter. I cut the videos and put them together and tried to only include the important parts to make it as short as possible. I felt it was already too long and many people wouldn't watch it. The most important part is at the end so I hope people watch it all.